How To Measure Low Impedance With An Affordable VNA And Using Free Tools

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Robert Feranec

Robert Feranec

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@wb7ond
@wb7ond 6 ай бұрын
Interesting video. thanks for making that available to the general public. I wanted to mention that the SDR VNA software allows plotting of the impedance formula within the program... Again thanks..
@ats89117
@ats89117 6 ай бұрын
Great video! When Adinath didn't completely agree with your simplifications, he would go silent, which was also instructive! 😀
@gsuberland
@gsuberland 6 ай бұрын
Another interesting thing to look at is AVX's interdigitated capacitors (IDCs), which come in multi-pin packages similar to resistor arrays. They are still a single capacitor internally, but by connecting the pairs of terminals in opposite polarity you create opposing current loops that reduce inductance. They do make layout a little trickier in dense areas since you need to be able to fit vias nearby in opposing patterns, but often your BGA/LGA packages have alternating GND/Vxx pads anyway for referencing when they have high power integrity requirements, so direct in-pad connection is often possible there.
@rishisolapure7585
@rishisolapure7585 6 ай бұрын
Great work 🔥🔥
@kxo4518
@kxo4518 6 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see the difference between
@tianheyun-e7z
@tianheyun-e7z 5 ай бұрын
The PCB board of the test fixture is not embedded. How to eliminate the influence of that test board?
@miroslawkaras7710
@miroslawkaras7710 6 ай бұрын
For port isolatio or noise floor you shoul terminate both ports withh 500 ohms termination. When you calibrate you shoul not connect you standards (open, short , load thru adapter), they should be connected direcly to thend of the cable to avoid any phase diffrence.
@JaniP-k3r
@JaniP-k3r 5 ай бұрын
Why 500ohms? 👀
@fabioposser2
@fabioposser2 6 ай бұрын
Hi Robert, do you have a video teaching how to choose the profile for the IC? Because I have tools like siwave, but I have doubts how to select the desired impedance for the IC and also how to know the output impedance characteristics of a buck converter for example.
@samihawasli7408
@samihawasli7408 7 ай бұрын
Very good presentation, but can I ask? Isn't it bad your S-Parameters were outside the smith chart for your passive resistor? Seems concerning since we then used those S-paramtesr to calculate Zdut
@thomhpl
@thomhpl 7 ай бұрын
Probably due to poor calibration?
@samihawasli7408
@samihawasli7408 6 ай бұрын
“Cheap” cal kit + “affordable” VNA, is what it is. For 400+ bucks I want my resistors to look more lossy than my shorts.
@veni2598
@veni2598 7 ай бұрын
Great video! Didn't get it: what's the difference between shorted trace and blob of solder?
@ThePyrosirys
@ThePyrosirys 6 ай бұрын
The picture is small, but I think the trace is just a normal pcb trace, like 20 mils or something. The blob is just a bigger connection, so it's like multiples of the parasitic resistances and inductances in parallel which makes the parasitics smaller.
@rb8049
@rb8049 7 ай бұрын
Correctly done. Great!
@87Spectr
@87Spectr 7 ай бұрын
I'm sure - great again!=)
@MrThoriam
@MrThoriam 6 ай бұрын
Can somebody explain me the equation how he get impedance from insertion loss? Im a little bit confused. Btw great video
@ricolauersdorf687
@ricolauersdorf687 6 ай бұрын
i wanna do this at home.
@moseschan6363
@moseschan6363 6 ай бұрын
why not nanoVNA ? This device seems really slow and has low bandwidth
@rjordans
@rjordans 6 ай бұрын
A nanovna can do this too, the noise floor will be a bit higher though. You can work around that by doing some averaging but then it also gets slower. Also, NanoVNAsaver has the calculations shown here built-in and can directly show the impedance graph for the s21 measurement so no need to export and do calculations unless you want to combine several plots in one graph
@py2bnd-sota411
@py2bnd-sota411 4 ай бұрын
​@@rjordansShure, the dynamic range (noise flore) of NanoVNA is about 20dB higher than on SDR VNA - But for this measurements a NanoVNA is just good enough and SDR Saver just calculates the complex values out of the S parameter.
@wl9052
@wl9052 6 ай бұрын
same
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