How to OVER Engineer a Website // What is a Tech Stack?

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Күн бұрын

A "tech stack" includes all the technologies used to build a complete web or mobile application - like frameworks, cloud services, libraries, languages, and APIs. Let’s over-engineer a tech stack for an MVP, then simplify it. Learn how to build fullstack apps in courses fireship.io/courses/
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Petite Vue github.com/vuejs/petite-vue
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📚 Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:37 What’s in a Tech Stack?
02:05 Popular Stacks
03:08 Frontend
05:34 Backend
08:23 APIs
09:23 Petite Fire Stack
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🔖 Topics Covered
- Choosing a Tech Stack for Web Development
- Comparing JS frameworks
- React State Management with Redux
- Containers with Docker and Kubernetes
- Mobile dev with React Native, Flutter, & Ionic
- APIs with GraphQL and Apollo
- How to build a website
- Cloud Computing Concepts

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@Aditya-uk1bv
@Aditya-uk1bv 2 жыл бұрын
Last part is a must watch
@kimdavidj2
@kimdavidj2 2 жыл бұрын
9:23
@ransfordarthur4418
@ransfordarthur4418 2 жыл бұрын
ngl had us all in the first half 😂
@eshtiyak
@eshtiyak 2 жыл бұрын
one moment of silence for those who skipped before that
@AlexGower
@AlexGower 2 жыл бұрын
I was depressed until the last part
@gurbux6491
@gurbux6491 2 жыл бұрын
"pick your poison" So you've chosen vendor lock-in.
@Skia_
@Skia_ 2 жыл бұрын
Bro you're actually fluent in trash-talk XD The passive aggressive sarcasm is absolute fire
@xXDarkRevolutionHDXx
@xXDarkRevolutionHDXx 2 жыл бұрын
It's not only fire, it's Fireship
@shubhamkale735
@shubhamkale735 2 жыл бұрын
do you know which software editor is he using
@nope3616
@nope3616 2 жыл бұрын
@@shubhamkale735 vscode
@LinkEX
@LinkEX 2 жыл бұрын
@@nope3616 I think Shubham Kale was asking about the video-editing software, not the IDE. (However, if it turns out there is a VS Code extension that can do THAT, please tell me about it, lol.)
@arnoldkgabi585
@arnoldkgabi585 2 жыл бұрын
@@LinkEX 😂🤣
@verified_tinker1818
@verified_tinker1818 2 жыл бұрын
"Let's go with AWS to give us the most complicated user experience." I'm glad Fireship thinks so, too. I thought I was just bad at it.
@spicemasterii6775
@spicemasterii6775 2 жыл бұрын
You can have the pleasure of getting kicked off of AWS if they don't like you.
@smhmkkh
@smhmkkh 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy you remind me of myself when i first tried to learn AWS. Long story short i deleted my account and ran directly to firebase.
@ooogabooga5111
@ooogabooga5111 2 жыл бұрын
I like it complicated tho, more flexibility comes with complication.
@ranpsycho
@ranpsycho 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlOlexy Parler
@cesarmurillo6192
@cesarmurillo6192 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlOlexy That's true, just ask Parler 😂
@made-simple
@made-simple 26 күн бұрын
2yrs later ... This video still makes sense ... Grateful for this...
@Kanak_Bodkhe
@Kanak_Bodkhe 14 күн бұрын
real
@matthiaslangbart9841
@matthiaslangbart9841 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps I'm still too old school, but back in the days of BDD (behavior-driven development) we had the rule: "Vision first, features second, specs third, tools fourth!" Which means: Only when we all agree on our vision of our project, we can pin down the features we want to implement. Only when we all agree on the features of the project, we can specify *how* we want to implement them. Only when we all agree on the specifications (specs) we can look for the best technologies to get the job done. I still believe in this approach. Can't help it.
@knarkzel2006
@knarkzel2006 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like waterfall design
@jordaosimplicio
@jordaosimplicio 11 ай бұрын
Well, if you watch closelly, you'll see that he's already stablished vision and specs (myspace knockoff). Which makes sense, since the point of this video was to discuss the collection of tecnologies that could/should be used to implement it. Sorry for bad english.
@56independent42
@56independent42 10 ай бұрын
​@@jordaosimplicio your English is far better then any other non-english language i know. If you applied for UK citizenship, they'd have no idea you weren't born there.
@busterbunny005
@busterbunny005 10 ай бұрын
​@@56independent42 time to go to the UK then I guess
@gabrielbotchway7121
@gabrielbotchway7121 Ай бұрын
I'm not a developer but I agree 1,000 percent
@Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny
@Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny 2 жыл бұрын
Boss: "We want to build a todo app." Dev: "Okay, I'll just need these 18 frameworks."
@Lucas_Simoni
@Lucas_Simoni 2 жыл бұрын
The budget is around US$ 10^50 and the product will be released to the public before the century XXVII A.D.
@MiguelAngel-fw4sk
@MiguelAngel-fw4sk 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lucas_Simoni That's too soon, we gotta delay the release.
@aebisdecunter
@aebisdecunter 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lucas_Simoni AD as in "After Development"?
@trevidia
@trevidia 2 жыл бұрын
@@aebisdecunter after death of christ
@abdullahraghib4008
@abdullahraghib4008 2 жыл бұрын
@@trevidia after death of the world
@alishahrose2076
@alishahrose2076 2 жыл бұрын
And that ladies and gentlemen, are the requirements for a junior developer.
@devinosborne3396
@devinosborne3396 2 жыл бұрын
LOLOL FACX
@DEVDerr
@DEVDerr 2 жыл бұрын
entry-level developer* After 3 years of working in company, then you would maybe become junior developer
@sandrinjoy
@sandrinjoy 2 жыл бұрын
@Solve Everything lmao true that
@ViniciusCerqueiraBonifacio
@ViniciusCerqueiraBonifacio 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@hkcode1811
@hkcode1811 2 жыл бұрын
@Solve Everything are you guys all being serious i cant tell. Maybe its different in other countries but i got work as a Junior Developer in the uk right after graduating without much difficulty. I dont have an exceptional cv or anything either. Maybe its harder on other countries
@chriskevini
@chriskevini 2 жыл бұрын
This video is written like an award-winning novel. It's got a compelling storyline complete with the suffocating dread as we get bombarded with a seemingly endless amount of unfamiliar names and colorful logos which then climaxes when we throw it all out and start from scratch ultimately ending with a satisfying conclusion. A perfect 5/7
@hobbes5043
@hobbes5043 8 ай бұрын
this is not an award winning novel,
@oteragard8077
@oteragard8077 3 күн бұрын
a perfect 5/7 ahahaha
@Slimtony-ho6bo
@Slimtony-ho6bo 7 ай бұрын
Bro, please never stop doing these videos. They have literally gotten me through college, and most of my work experience come from videos just like yours. I never comment on videos, but you sir deserve some recognition, not only have I learned with you, but I also just straight up love binging your videos!
@thetrends5670
@thetrends5670 2 жыл бұрын
Stacks was made to lessen the code, now configuring a stack is more complicated than writing the code
@frankhuurman3955
@frankhuurman3955 2 жыл бұрын
we need a new stack to solve the current problem of stacks. oh wait..
@ussiz
@ussiz 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankhuurman3955 JaStackScript ?! 🤔
@Saurus990
@Saurus990 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankhuurman3955 Stack-a-Script 9000, chose your preffered stack, write what you want in plain english, and Stack-a-Script 9000 will package that shit for you!* *The license is only 10 million per month, or 100 million per year!
@frankhuurman3955
@frankhuurman3955 2 жыл бұрын
@@Saurus990 so for 10 million per month I still have to choose my own tech stack? sign me up! xD what a bargain
@balduran
@balduran 2 жыл бұрын
@@Saurus990 Actually, a programming language that uses natural language does exist. The funny part is: programming with that is actually harder, more complicated and takes much more space. Where you normally would write "let var ++; " You now need to write "Take the variable var and increment by one". If i remember correctly, it was a language from the 90s, but I forgot the name. And, big surprise, every developer that tested that language, hated it. But maybe that was not exactly what you had in mind.
@abnoco
@abnoco Жыл бұрын
Six years ago I had an idea and I started to build it. I quickly fell into the stack rabbit hole described perfectly in this video. Then I took a regular job and put that project on hold, until now. I’m really focused on keeping things simple this time and I loved this video!!
@13NHKari
@13NHKari Жыл бұрын
Omg, dude, you're a genius. Every video you make just proves how well you understand those stuff...No one can explain those topics better than you.
@DavidCSaint
@DavidCSaint 2 жыл бұрын
This is fucking brilliant. “Let’s go with AWS because we want an overly complicated interface” lmao
@freshprince633
@freshprince633 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh, I thought the same before starting to use aws. But it gives a lot of control over our infrastructure. For example, security groups are godsent. Imagine configuring iptables or ufw on all the servers, and only allowing ssh from a particular machine which don't even have static ip. Idk why people find aws complicated.
@Oliver_Saer
@Oliver_Saer 2 жыл бұрын
@@freshprince633 It's a complicated experience if your development team consists of developers who just want to write code and deploy it somewhere that works. If you're a network engineer, devops manager or something similar, you're like a kid in a sweet shop.
@Suraj-vn5tm
@Suraj-vn5tm 2 жыл бұрын
aws has very simple user interface.
@freshprince633
@freshprince633 2 жыл бұрын
@@Oliver_Saer I am a developer and is handling deployments because there wasn't anyone else in the team to do it. I started off with digital ocean and it was simple enough, but as traffic increased, it was really hard to manage. Aws on the other hand is built specifically for these scenarios. Deployment and load balancing is much easier to do on aws. For smaller websites, it's easier to go with a vps or even netlify. But for a medium size project (which it is most of the time), aws is a blessing. And it's not that complicated to learn the basics.
@freshprince633
@freshprince633 2 жыл бұрын
@akashic seer nope. For basic security on digital ocean droplets, we have to set iptable rules manually (ufw if you want a simpler approach), but on aws, it's much easier to do it using security groups 😂😂
@danvilela
@danvilela 2 жыл бұрын
“More code lead to a better quality app” the humor never stops 😂 also i liked the bigger video. 100s is too little
@korzinko
@korzinko 2 жыл бұрын
Bigger video lead to a better quality
@theclockworkcadaver7025
@theclockworkcadaver7025 2 жыл бұрын
@@korzinko but why say many word when few word do trick
@korzinko
@korzinko 2 жыл бұрын
​@@theclockworkcadaver7025 Because as "More code lead to a better quality app", longer video leads to a better quality. 😁
@friction5001
@friction5001 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@code913.
@code913. 2 жыл бұрын
lol he doesn't even need 10s. dude converted a 5 page machine learning description into one sentence: "Machine learning. Teach a computer to do something without explicitly programming it to"
@javeriaz9534
@javeriaz9534 Жыл бұрын
Before this video, I was watching all the videos for every front and back-end tech stack, and it was making me sleepy. Thank you, fireship for this video and for rejuvenating me.
@agnostimous2859
@agnostimous2859 Жыл бұрын
Amazing break down of what I've been looking for for months as a newbie. Thanks for simplifyng things in a condensed way 😉
@j.r.rodriguez1755
@j.r.rodriguez1755 2 жыл бұрын
As a developer, this video has me laughing and crying at the same time until the last section where everything got simplified and half the team lost their jobs, haha.
@gantzerek
@gantzerek 2 жыл бұрын
It depends. If your team is more than 1 person, and the company is comprised of more than 1 team, and you're working on more than a single application in an ecosystem that will be used by more than 1000 people, dealing with heavily audited, secure, scalable system which will host and process critical information (banking/national security/personal/ health information/logistics), you will all benefit from T H I C C, battle proven stack in the long run.
@lalasbizarreadventure3927
@lalasbizarreadventure3927 2 жыл бұрын
hhh same here
@johndawson6057
@johndawson6057 2 жыл бұрын
@@gantzerek THICC being?
@gantzerek
@gantzerek 2 жыл бұрын
@@johndawson6057 thicc as in thick, fat
@Yash-jp6xh
@Yash-jp6xh 2 жыл бұрын
Stop commenting the same comment on every single video.
@Ali2307013
@Ali2307013 2 жыл бұрын
“You’ll never get to the point where you actually need Kubernetes” 😂😂😂 brilliant as usual
@Ali2307013
@Ali2307013 2 жыл бұрын
@@mountakhabi seriously speaking, knowing that I don’t know much about Kubernetes, I think AWS ECS is enough for that.
@uziboozy4540
@uziboozy4540 2 жыл бұрын
@@mountakhabi yeah, you're completely wrong rofl
@gantzerek
@gantzerek 2 жыл бұрын
@@mountakhabi docekr compose will not take care of for example load balancing
@TheEbbemonster
@TheEbbemonster 2 жыл бұрын
Just get a managed Kubernetes and you are up and running in a few hours.
@mbbxx
@mbbxx 2 жыл бұрын
If you're a devops engineer... Kubernetes is a must have! As that will come in handy when they ask you to justify your employment
@Goteks97
@Goteks97 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say, one of the most useful videos I've ever watched 🔥. As a newbie I feel a lot less overwhelmed 😀
@anormalusername
@anormalusername 2 жыл бұрын
I found this very informative! In my personal experience, if there's more than one person involved with the coding, adding Github + GH Actions for the convenience wouldn't be too much of an extra stretch but you're right if it's just you doing your own thing and don't mind manually handling it.
@captainlennyjapan27
@captainlennyjapan27 2 жыл бұрын
"AWS for the most complicated user experience' LOL
@SeraphicRav
@SeraphicRav 2 жыл бұрын
So true lol
@DEVDerr
@DEVDerr 2 жыл бұрын
jesus, that was the most true sentence I've heard in a while
@Trellyy809
@Trellyy809 2 жыл бұрын
You can make a whole damn course for just navigating AWS
@eoussama
@eoussama 2 жыл бұрын
I've lived my professional life from the beginning to now dumping unfinished side projects left and right, but it hasn't clicked for me until I read the title of this video why do I tend to do that, it's over engineering and overall planning. A todo app build on a 10 layer stack will not change the world, I should plan just the right amount and save more energy for actually realizing the project and completing it.
@SansidarUploads
@SansidarUploads 2 жыл бұрын
I think the modern tech industry really has a problem with overengineering in general. It's like if you really ask them why they chose to use a certain uneccesary framework, most of them would say "Because that other company uses it" or "I have to to be a good developer" if they're honest. Like do you really need a complicated state management framework just to hide and show certain components? No, you absolutely do not.
@dealloc
@dealloc 2 жыл бұрын
@@SansidarUploads > do you really need a complicated state management framework just to hide and show certain components If hiding the component is based on some non-trivial user interactions and state coordination, then yes. Hiding a component could be as simple as a toggle-which wouldn't require a full-fledged state management library-to a complex decision-tree based on authentication, authorization, feature flags and other metrics. Trying to model that with internal state will make it a lot more complicated and harder to maintain, than using a well-defined finite state machine, for example. And that's not to mention handling any side-effects such as I/O and networking with graceful error handling, fallbacks and other edge-cases, so your app doesn't break underneath the user's feet. When you build a side-project or proof-of-concept, these things don't matter as much and you can get away with not caring about these edge cases. But for full-fledged products with multiple paying users this is not something you can just hand-wave away without creating a terrible experience for the user.
@travistarp7466
@travistarp7466 2 жыл бұрын
That's what bootstrapping is. Start ups need a proof of concept before you invest too much time into it. Shortcuts like css frameworks to firebase/cloud functions are great for that. Honestly you just need to match the stack with the complexity of the project, i love typescript, but for a super small app im probably just wasting time using it. I think overengineering is a problem, but so is under engineering too. Also these services will add up, especially when the app starts to scale. It's probably cheaper to have your own infrastructure once you get to a certain point.
@101Crock
@101Crock 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I tent to go through the whole software development lifecycle for my side projects. First define the problem statement. Then write a short requirements document for the project. Then architect the major parts of the code. Once that’s done, coding should largely come easily, just stick with a blueprint you have, you can always add more it after this first draft is done.
@unthinkme1313
@unthinkme1313 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so awesome! I had literally come to the conclusion of the vue-fire stack TODAY, in my quest for elegant simplicity. Was unaware of petite, but will probably stick with the more complicated vue.
@dk14929
@dk14929 10 ай бұрын
I usually don't like to watch much web dev stuff on KZbin because i find its often filled with way too much hype and over engineering, basically everything you demonstrated in this video Your videos are a breath of fresh air!
@FlorianEagox
@FlorianEagox 2 жыл бұрын
"It's impossible to make CSS look good on its own, so we're going to bring in Tailwind" i'm crying
@Nightflash28
@Nightflash28 2 жыл бұрын
I actually really love tailwind...
@tarangpatil6952
@tarangpatil6952 2 жыл бұрын
Don't cry! 🫂
@adamolsey6683
@adamolsey6683 2 жыл бұрын
@@tarangpatil6952 but that html tho....
@msgesus4518
@msgesus4518 2 жыл бұрын
Tailwind seems like a good option for developers who don't write CSS. For me it seems like a bad pattern unless used for smaller projects.
@FlorianEagox
@FlorianEagox 2 жыл бұрын
@@msgesus4518 that's literally the exact same line we've been using with bootstrap for a decade, but people act like this is different
@roulzhq
@roulzhq 2 жыл бұрын
Over-engineering a website? Write the frontend in WASM without using the DOM, the backend in C because performance, duh, and create your own shitty database because you don't like any.
@necaton
@necaton 2 жыл бұрын
or dont use any database at all and save everything in a textfile
@_Yaroslav
@_Yaroslav 2 жыл бұрын
And encrypt everything with your own cypher)
@nhat4359
@nhat4359 2 жыл бұрын
Tired of big bad company ripping you off? Build a shitty datacenter and host your own servers instead
@willinton06
@willinton06 2 жыл бұрын
@@necaton I just send random guids to the user instead of the data they requested and hope they figure it out
@brianevans4
@brianevans4 2 жыл бұрын
The C compiler writes worse assembly than the best humans, so rather just code your server in pure assembly. Also, same goes for wasm compiler, so just write wasm bytecode by hand. (If you want good perf)
@rdean150
@rdean150 2 жыл бұрын
Manual deployment may work for small applications built by just a handful of engineers. But as soon as you have multiple teams building upon code that was written by other people, and all of it must play nicely together, and you have an active user base that you dont want to risk disrupting with outages, the packaging and deployment processes get more complex and more critical. And frankly, they become a lot more of a pain in the ass, and can require more developer time being spent going through the motions. And that time is expensive.
@atb0007
@atb0007 2 жыл бұрын
As someone with non IT background and into business analyst, it gives a very good bird's-eye view and context to the whole orchestral
@farlight6044
@farlight6044 2 жыл бұрын
Man, the "pick your poison" slide killed me 😂 You really never disappoint on quality Phenomenal content as usual!
@lucasilverentand
@lucasilverentand 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I do this type of stuff all day everyday for like 10 years now. This video made me realize how stupidly insane all these tools and technologies have gotten.
@alainportant6412
@alainportant6412 10 ай бұрын
stupidly insane
@chelseafeng9452
@chelseafeng9452 9 ай бұрын
thank u!!! im graduating with a cs degree and i cant believe nobody has ever explained what each of these stack does. this is the first video ive seen that actually differentiates them!!!
@bsha100
@bsha100 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, this is awesome. You literally listed every 'hey let's add every bit of bullshit into this, to make it impossible to debug' new technology that I've ever hated to have to deploy on a site. Literally wish you were in every meeting I've had to sit through with devs who can't figure out the shiny new tech that they wanted to add in so they don't have to write the 12 lines of code that would have saved the 3 hours it took just to get the environment setup, so that they could be confused by the syntax.
@wforbes87
@wforbes87 2 жыл бұрын
mevn can be rearranged to venm and all of a sudden it's the coolest stack acronym. throw in something that starts with an O and you have the full effect. VENOM
@karmanyaahm
@karmanyaahm 2 жыл бұрын
Not a tool necessarily but object oriented?
@B00Mnation
@B00Mnation 2 жыл бұрын
Or Venmo lol
@JamesLuterek
@JamesLuterek 2 жыл бұрын
It's also a more logical order. Front-end to back-end (Vue, Express, Node, Mongo). Putting Vue between Express and Node makes no sense, MEAN only did that so it would sound cool.
@wforbes87
@wforbes87 2 жыл бұрын
@@JamesLuterek exactly!
@3dninja54
@3dninja54 2 жыл бұрын
How about we use Postgres, React, and Node instead?
@MobiusCoin
@MobiusCoin 2 жыл бұрын
"now it's time to switch gears to the hard part, the back end" ouch, my poor fragile front end heart
@davidm2.johnston684
@davidm2.johnston684 Жыл бұрын
This is a great video! Thank you for that :) I'm just beginning to learn from my colleagues and from podcasts about all these technologies, and this video brings it all together, in a way that makes sense to me. Thanks again!
@ExpensivePizza
@ExpensivePizza 2 жыл бұрын
As a coder for 20+ years this hits hard 😅I hurts to know how many of these frameworks I've used and still use in the tech stacks I work with daily.
@iLikeMyOwnPosts
@iLikeMyOwnPosts 2 жыл бұрын
And for all you young punks out there, the OG stack LAMP is STILL runnin' the block!
@sardorbekomonkulov6379
@sardorbekomonkulov6379 2 жыл бұрын
I read that as ruining
@aogposton
@aogposton 2 жыл бұрын
Me for 9 mins: "Damn, I must be trash." Also me: "THEEEEERRRREEEEE you go"
@resilientbit3
@resilientbit3 2 жыл бұрын
First introduce popular tech landscape, then simplify it down to what should be focused by the beginners. Great content! 👍
@shwm19
@shwm19 2 жыл бұрын
The end of "Just throw all that out, it doesn't matter" was the best.
@hiwayshoes
@hiwayshoes 2 жыл бұрын
Jeff, in under 12 minutes, you’ve eliminated 200 thousand Million BILLION tech careers…. good going, dear 😂👍 … all the best to you, Cheers!
@Torakashi
@Torakashi 2 жыл бұрын
started watching.... **anxiety intensifies**
@31redorange08
@31redorange08 2 жыл бұрын
Whose?
@sajjanrajvaidya
@sajjanrajvaidya 2 жыл бұрын
The stack might be petite fire but this video is mega fire! 🔥
@CodingLabs
@CodingLabs 2 жыл бұрын
So you are tech guy?
@CodingLabs
@CodingLabs 2 жыл бұрын
@@sujittamang4734 lol Do you have any idea what did you saw in this video and what are you saying? amateurs
@TheCamps10
@TheCamps10 2 жыл бұрын
@@sujittamang4734 No, this absolutely IS engineering. Ask me how many convolutional neural networks I had to write since I joined the workforce. You need to learn to separate software engineering and computer science as concepts.
@alexchaudhary8552
@alexchaudhary8552 2 жыл бұрын
Yo kun line ma aaipugnu vo bro? 😂
@jagdishkumar6382
@jagdishkumar6382 2 жыл бұрын
@@CodingLabs g
@brianpoblete9199
@brianpoblete9199 2 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't believe the catharsis I felt when the music started playing and he started showing how to do this more simply. I felt so relieved knowing that I wasn't stupid for not knowing every single thing in the over-engineered stack.
@ECBSJ
@ECBSJ Жыл бұрын
This was amazingly educational for any new web dev to see the whole picture. Thank you!
@tharunrajoptimus5229
@tharunrajoptimus5229 2 жыл бұрын
9:00 AWS deep learning dk detection capabilities. Awesome Nice one Jeff
@cyrusguest4975
@cyrusguest4975 2 жыл бұрын
lmao it was so funny to me
@monikaparmar2061
@monikaparmar2061 Жыл бұрын
Alliteration was perfect.
@ehsanmohammadi5371
@ehsanmohammadi5371 2 жыл бұрын
You are a genuine out-of-the-box thinker. Your videos are short yet densely packed with information, both technically and philosophically. Fireship is like a breath of fresh air. Awesome!
@KBS_ar
@KBS_ar Жыл бұрын
No code is the future.
@KBS_ar
@KBS_ar Жыл бұрын
@光宗耀祖啊 No code is where you drag and drop to create an app or a website. Today, coders copy-paste 99% of their codes.
@maksimkonovalov5662
@maksimkonovalov5662 Жыл бұрын
@@KBS_ar so, optimisation is nothing to you?
@seanb6636
@seanb6636 Жыл бұрын
@@maksimkonovalov5662 nor is it to most "programmers" touting react in their "tech stack" (cope stack). Tbh no code could be more efficient than most of the bullshit your average web dev writes for the vast majority of cases.
@jimmybean2509
@jimmybean2509 Жыл бұрын
@@seanb6636 no code? how would that even work? having some block ui drag and drop shit that compiles straight into binary? because otherwise, theres gonna be some code in the middle of that
@wlockuz4467
@wlockuz4467 Жыл бұрын
"If you don't build a good experience at first, you'll never get to the point where you'll need something like Kubernetes" I love this quote
@jali8377
@jali8377 Жыл бұрын
or stripe
@aleksd286
@aleksd286 Жыл бұрын
I usually go for: NextJs for Frontend (with ts, tailwindcss etc) FeathersJs (NodeJs framework) - REST, sockets out of the box, building endpoints within seconds MongoDb
@chisangamumba2961
@chisangamumba2961 9 ай бұрын
Another new and shinny thing with so much hype! 🤦
@XShollaj
@XShollaj 9 ай бұрын
Next + TS is solid
@SpencerYonce
@SpencerYonce 7 ай бұрын
I’m almost the same but I use express
@nathansodja
@nathansodja 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being required to know all this to start an entry level position
@devinosborne3396
@devinosborne3396 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@liorberman7240
@liorberman7240 2 жыл бұрын
Well, that's actually really not far from reality.
@OzzyTheGiant
@OzzyTheGiant 2 жыл бұрын
That's not an entry level position, that's an entire IT/Software Dev department
@overpoweredyt7757
@overpoweredyt7757 2 жыл бұрын
you dont need to imagine... this is sad
@georgeousthegorgeous
@georgeousthegorgeous 2 жыл бұрын
@@OzzyTheGiant no it's JUNIOR requirements in some companies. I think if somebody knows everything mentioned there he must be invaluable
@TheDogn
@TheDogn 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. I reached a point where i was starting to feel out of my depth with with inane amount of information i was swimming in, but it was great because it felt like you were illustrating what its like to be an overwhelmed developer, not just reminding me about how little i know.
@carlosmspk
@carlosmspk 2 жыл бұрын
I love that his humor is so subtle. Like he says the thing and it takes you a second to realize he was trolling, and yet, it' also always true
@sozno4222
@sozno4222 3 ай бұрын
No video has ever discouraged me more about writing an application 😂
@zachgoll
@zachgoll 2 жыл бұрын
This video is the perfect mix of good information and top notch trolling at the same time. Love it.
@BojanTheGamer
@BojanTheGamer Жыл бұрын
Loved your frontend course on freeCodeCamp man!
@Turnpost2552
@Turnpost2552 11 ай бұрын
He should really stop the trolling because I cant tell when he is being serious. Why do develooers on youtubers always do this sarcastic humour with most vital pieces of information. I think it comes from a sens needing that vanity and applause that I am smarter than you vibe.
@fhilliso8538
@fhilliso8538 10 ай бұрын
@@Turnpost2552 lol
@cobrasys
@cobrasys 10 ай бұрын
@@Turnpost2552 That kind of sounds like a "you" problem, bud. His trolling is pretty evident.
@reyco1
@reyco1 2 жыл бұрын
This is by far one of the best videos I have ever seen stating exactly what NOT to do lol. Overengineering is a wormhole I fell into many times in my early days as a developer. Luckily, I just use K.I.S.S. now... Not necessarily a webstack rather than a frame of mind. "Keep It Simple, Supid" :-)
@selehadinhabesi3855
@selehadinhabesi3855 2 жыл бұрын
S.Y.L.A "See You Later, Alligator"
@soulextracter
@soulextracter 2 жыл бұрын
@@selehadinhabesi3855 F.A.R.T "fart"
@3nertia
@3nertia 2 жыл бұрын
Did you typo 'Stupid' on purpose? :D
@grigorecosmin
@grigorecosmin Жыл бұрын
@@soulextracter I love your username.
@KBS_ar
@KBS_ar Жыл бұрын
@@grigorecosmin 😂
@backslash057
@backslash057 10 күн бұрын
This guy is a genius. i thought about leaving the video several times because it was becoming too complicated just to memorize the concepts. The last part is perfect.
@kartoffeltroels
@kartoffeltroels Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your high quality material! ❤
@rumplstiltztinkerstein
@rumplstiltztinkerstein 2 жыл бұрын
nothing like learning in 10 minutes more content than an entire university semester
@bryangomez5951
@bryangomez5951 2 жыл бұрын
If you are going to go to bad universities, maybe don't do it in the first place.
@rumplstiltztinkerstein
@rumplstiltztinkerstein 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryangomez5951 I'm just doing for the degree so I can start a masters' in another country
@belindakaut6212
@belindakaut6212 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryangomez5951 it's a joke bruv don't take things too literally
@vitor.torino
@vitor.torino 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryangomez5951 you guys been learning tech things in university ?
@JonathanAdami
@JonathanAdami 2 жыл бұрын
nothing like thinking that the absolute first layer of the surface of anything is "learning"
@RobertLeeuwerink
@RobertLeeuwerink 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one jeff, sometimes we do forget how much overhead we add with all these stacks! When all we need are some html pages with info... cheers
@smaudd7873
@smaudd7873 2 жыл бұрын
All that tech bubble money needs to go anywhere
@simonjoelwarkentin7087
@simonjoelwarkentin7087 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a beginner at coding, and this REALLY opened my eyes. Thank you!
@Installator1
@Installator1 2 жыл бұрын
same here 🙏🏼
@ariyoayodejiifeoluwa65
@ariyoayodejiifeoluwa65 Жыл бұрын
You made it so easy and straight forward. Thanks for this
@ageneralstateofchaos
@ageneralstateofchaos 2 жыл бұрын
I've been studying this stuff for two years, and this video and your JS framework comparison video are so succinct, they represent months worth of learning compiled into 10 minutes. Amazing. Thank you for this content.
@zhenwang5872
@zhenwang5872 11 ай бұрын
cannot agree more
@cucucucucumber
@cucucucucumber 2 жыл бұрын
"Why he doesn't use firebase, why?!" 5 minute later... "Oh, that's why"
@wlockuz4467
@wlockuz4467 4 ай бұрын
This video is my motivation. Everytime I feel overwhelmed by tech I just watch it to feel better.
@shivamchaudhary7486
@shivamchaudhary7486 Жыл бұрын
this video blew my mind away, I am amazed by the creator's originality, concept, and dialogues. How can a person like that exist? I would pay to have a conversation with you for 10 minutes.
@BeccaYetiammo
@BeccaYetiammo 2 жыл бұрын
I just moved to a new company since a month ago, and most of these are the ones I’m about to delve into. To give you credit also, I found myself answering the questions during my technical interview quite well all thanks to your videos. So thank you very much!
@androiduseronappledevice4477
@androiduseronappledevice4477 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, good luck!
@roko567
@roko567 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, every hobby project I do is mostly to learn something and display it on my portfolio so I can sell myself for a better price. A lot of companies specifically require certain skills, and that's for a reason.
@lalodominguez7121
@lalodominguez7121 8 ай бұрын
I love how complicated this is. Thank you 👍
@projekt95
@projekt95 3 ай бұрын
A wise man once said that if your API is slow due to slow database queries, you don't need a Redis cache, you need someone to fix your crappy queries.
@srivatsajoshi4028
@srivatsajoshi4028 2 жыл бұрын
I actually laughed out loud at amazon's machine learning dic pic detection. You're awesome
@waldomilanes3726
@waldomilanes3726 2 жыл бұрын
I am still Laughing 😅
@usufdev
@usufdev 2 жыл бұрын
I work at one of the big tech companies, so the thing explained, over Engineering a website, is basically the same as what we do in big companies! I love your content and it is amazing.
@HippasosofMetapontum
@HippasosofMetapontum 2 жыл бұрын
waterhead as usual, big institutes, government, companies, religions ... there is a too much and it happens even faster since there are CEOs and not entrepreneurs leading companies
@coscorrodrift
@coscorrodrift 2 жыл бұрын
i mean once you're in big tech, it's no longer overengineering, it's just engineering lol
@usufdev
@usufdev 2 жыл бұрын
@@coscorrodrift Yeah you are right...
@CoffeeToCode11
@CoffeeToCode11 8 ай бұрын
The last part of the video was pure joy, with just Firebase and React I was able to deliver a web and mobile app for a client in no time, for the record before that the tech stack looked pretty similar to the start of the video it was freaking overwhelming, the lesson here is tech stack should be chosen after business needs are well understood
@williamwayne4043
@williamwayne4043 10 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for making this. It's really cool to finally understand what all these technologies do since I've heard about Tailwind forever and never knew what it did.
@akam9919
@akam9919 2 жыл бұрын
"Imagine we're building the next myspace."-Fireship, 2021
@Nikhilsharma-dp9tw
@Nikhilsharma-dp9tw 2 жыл бұрын
9:20 I've seen this stack before, it's on skills required section of Full stack role 😂
@davidjandroid
@davidjandroid Ай бұрын
"How do I get from Manhattan to Brooklyn by -" "Your space shuttle is ready, sir"
@galenhughes
@galenhughes 2 жыл бұрын
Man I love these videos - can't believe it took me so long to find them
@augusto256
@augusto256 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most concise explanation of tech stack ever.
@RahulsYTC
@RahulsYTC 2 жыл бұрын
The most humble representation of tech-stack on the internet! Kudos mate. 👏🏽 Companies these days will go out on a limb to adopt some of those unnecessary "latest and greatest" technologies just because the biggies prefer them and then end up with a caricature of a product! 🤦🏽‍♂️
@hyper7354
@hyper7354 Жыл бұрын
I’m an embedded software engineer, so C/C++ and Rust are my thing but somehow got roped into redesigning a website at work to dynamically generate the HTML with vanilla JavaScript. During my time doing this I have been looking into the web development side of things. This is ridiculous
@knarkzel2006
@knarkzel2006 11 ай бұрын
Axum + Sailfish + Vanilla javascript and css on each page is nice
@chisangamumba2961
@chisangamumba2961 9 ай бұрын
Embedded Systems Programmers right some of the most grotesque code I have ever seen!
@hyper7354
@hyper7354 9 ай бұрын
@@chisangamumba2961 That might be so but that’s what runs your lovely OS and most other critical systems.
@Reydriel
@Reydriel 9 ай бұрын
​@@chisangamumba2961They code practically at the bare metal level, it's gonna look ugly lol, no way around it
@MrBlaDiBla68
@MrBlaDiBla68 3 күн бұрын
Excellent vid. The tech stack described in the first part is almost identical to some projects in my company. The last part is food for thought...
@juniper_b0nsai245
@juniper_b0nsai245 2 жыл бұрын
This is such an incredibly useful and well-produced video. I can say that about all of your content, but while watching this I am reminded of how terribly grateful I am that this channel exists. Thanks a million!
@Akshay-dn7ni
@Akshay-dn7ni 2 жыл бұрын
these types of videos are needed bcz in college we learn just to code , data structures/algos etc but when we enter tech world we cannot figure out whats going on .
@ioanamentor
@ioanamentor Жыл бұрын
Wow i had a headache until you came out with the best solution ever! Thank you for what you created.
@AmrithNayak
@AmrithNayak Жыл бұрын
You're killing it, @Fireship! Great videos
@lefxxwill7740
@lefxxwill7740 2 жыл бұрын
i have been looking for a breakdown like this for sooo long! As a junior dev I'm so perplexed at how do decide on tech, knowing what a project actually requires etc. this is SO helpful! thanks
@FaisalAfroz
@FaisalAfroz 2 жыл бұрын
Even if a person knows all these stacks interviewer won't ask these instead they would ask design patterns/principle or data structures .
@apidas
@apidas 2 жыл бұрын
leetcode ftw
@michaelnurse9089
@michaelnurse9089 2 жыл бұрын
If you know dp/ds they switch to asking hypothetical math questions. Once employed your job is making coffee - they really should just check if you make good coffee.
@Subuzgreatest
@Subuzgreatest 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelnurse9089 Making coffee 😅
@AntoineJacques
@AntoineJacques 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelnurse9089 I've heard this a lot as a beginner and I'm worried i have yo use a lot of time leetcoding
@harrykay9770
@harrykay9770 2 жыл бұрын
this channel is slowly becoming my fav tech channel out here.🤣🤣
@footballbrain-uniqueorgan3500
@footballbrain-uniqueorgan3500 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro! Best for developers out there!
@joelcool1027
@joelcool1027 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE this video! I think some programmers and companies forget the end goal is just to solve a problem. No need for the over engineering
@fahimfarque
@fahimfarque 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao, builds the titanic then sinks it. As a dev, it is easy to over-engineer a site and forget that the user experience is number one. We should always optimize for user experience.
@StevenAkinyemi
@StevenAkinyemi 2 жыл бұрын
Optimizing for user experience is why we over-engineer
@SweatySockGaming
@SweatySockGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@StevenAkinyemi exactly the website is gonna be slow or go down or hard to maintain or deliver at scale if we dont overengineer. But there’s a time to overengineer and thats when you have a million users
@johngibson4874
@johngibson4874 2 жыл бұрын
@@SweatySockGaming I have been wondering this for a while but don't the majority of devs work on internal business apps for small / medium businesses? If you aren't working at Google why do they worry so much about scale? They *might* have 1000's of users. Maybe
@Riverbed_Dreaming
@Riverbed_Dreaming Жыл бұрын
This video explains the topic that very few online courses teach - how to find the tools necessary to actually start.
@jasperburchfield2028
@jasperburchfield2028 7 ай бұрын
It kept me on the edge of my seat, loved the thrilling conclusion.
@MrMikeJones1477
@MrMikeJones1477 2 жыл бұрын
You don't have to over engineer your architecture from Day 0, but certain technologies can be adapted to run in different ways. For example a Docker Container can be ran in Elastic Beanstalk (a super simple setup) and then later you can adapt it to a Kubernetes cluster when you need to cross that bridge... And this let's you do it without having to do a massive rewrite. Basically there's a balance you can find between Fireship and crazy over complication from Day 0
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 2 жыл бұрын
First of all, this is an amazing overview. It's the most confusing thing, even for someone who works in the space. Secondly, this is the most over-complicated tech stack I've ever seen lol. Web development has become Frankenstein's monster.
@latestcoder
@latestcoder 2 жыл бұрын
Is kind of normal for many ppl
@cristiangomes6101
@cristiangomes6101 2 жыл бұрын
@@latestcoder this. it's kind of standard
@nathanwang3657
@nathanwang3657 2 жыл бұрын
What a lot of unnecessary complexity.
@LucyPLM
@LucyPLM 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanwang3657 its not... unfortunatelly its not... When things scale fast or you get a big project that has been working for 10+ years, all of those becomes a total necesity
@Mr_Yeah
@Mr_Yeah 2 жыл бұрын
@@LucyPLM Yeah, but you can add a lot of stuff at a later time when the project demands them.
@joelrhine
@joelrhine 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of knowledge I have received from this video is blowing my mind.
@royoru3173
@royoru3173 2 жыл бұрын
A must watch especially the api part very important . And the last part is just cherry on top
@hartlink
@hartlink 2 жыл бұрын
awesome video, at the start of the video I was: "what's going on"... but later, "sweet and simple", most of the time as developers, engineers, overthink the solution and forgot the focus of the project that we are working and just adding stress to us, at the end of the day we only need the tools that works great for us and then start having fun, without fun a project does not worth it, just have fun! Thanks for this kind of content, have a nice day Jeff!
@ninjaasmoke
@ninjaasmoke 2 жыл бұрын
"Let's go with AWS to give us the most complicated user experience" I can't 😭🤣🤣🤣 Seriously tho, this is the best teaching strategy. Sass + humour + knowledge
@RandomStuffPT
@RandomStuffPT 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite tech stack is a SQL Cloud Server+ Outsystems. Pure love/fun
@Slashx92
@Slashx92 Жыл бұрын
I did the last thing but with tailwind and react. Used babel standalone to be able to write jsx in a script tag and have it automatically parsed on load, and tada! react component inside a custom html component for wix. Now doing it for Netsuite as my senior loved it
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