Yes! That's how to have fun! But still, for some of us who can't get around very well, and have not even that space, nothing wrong with a virtual RR planned on a computer. Enjoy. Tom
@slwilliams756 жыл бұрын
Finally! I've found a down to earth model railway channel that I can relate to. THANK YOU 👍🏻
@BudgetModelRailways6 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help , thanks for your support
@lazyrrr24116 жыл бұрын
What you say in the first 53 seconds is EPIC and should be Carved in Stone In my *opinion* the Biggest Threat to this Hobby is from Stodgy, Narrow-minded "Bolt counters" * Loaded with a book of Rules & Procedures 🛂📖
@BudgetModelRailways6 жыл бұрын
So true, thanks for your support
@underwaterdick5 жыл бұрын
Very well said Lazy RRR! I think it was a very profound thing to say, and should be heard by anyone wanting to built a layout to use. Accuracy is nice when followed 100%, but there is no rule book and no need to be accurate when everything is how YOU want it to be. I am a big fan of British Diesel locomotives, so my layout has a 121dmu, class 47, class 37, class 66, class 59... All in mixed liveries from various areas. No real period, location or thinking behind my rolling stock, but I like them, so I do it my way. Everyone else should do things their own way too. And if to them accuracy is important, so be it, but don't tell others that they cannot do things the way they want.
@BudgetModelRailways5 жыл бұрын
Spot on well said, I'm the same with my diesels
@Beatlefan675 жыл бұрын
I think they have their place, but I did exactly this; I just got on with it! I knew what I wanted to achieve and let the little plan I had, unfold from my mind as it happened. I made a couple cock-ups but so what?
@gortonshameless67465 жыл бұрын
Well said. You build what you want. If people do not like it then they can always go and look at somebody else's layout.
@saltydawg89997 жыл бұрын
You sound a lot like me, never planned a layout in my life and in over 50 years have built a good many, even a LT tube layout I allowed to evolve by just looking at photos. All your tips are sound and practical. The only thing I would add is the one move every modeller needs to do to keep their interest alive is get a train running as soon as you can, even if it is just up and down a straight track, so that between mdelling scenery or buildings there is something else to do, not only that, but you can see at a glance if your trains fit well with the scenery before anything becomes fixed and unmoveable, keep up the good work.
@BudgetModelRailways7 жыл бұрын
Thanks For your lovely comment!
@attackeagle6 жыл бұрын
salty dawg that’s a fantastic idea. It real does help keep interest alive if something is moving/ working.
@birgittewolthoorn75606 жыл бұрын
salty dawg o
@BudgetModelRailways2 жыл бұрын
Good point thanks
@jekylthorn89693 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. The only plan you need is your imagination and a big picture image of what you want. There are a lot of ancient lores that exist in railway modelling that serve no purpose and seem to be built on extreme risk aversion. Well said!
@BudgetModelRailways3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, very well put
@KatR264 Жыл бұрын
0:49 I am in the same exact position as that lad, this is why I am watching so many of your videos right now, thank you so much for posting this! When you’ve just inherited a model railway, you’re processing a loss too, and clear explanations like this are exactly what you need (so that everything becomes a little less daunting)!
@BudgetModelRailways Жыл бұрын
Glad we could help, hope you have fun with your layout, model railways are great therapy
@paulbrennan37604 жыл бұрын
Love the fact that you make a layout because YOU want to use it and you look to include features you want to see. You are lucky that you can build multiple layouts and you will then sell them. I think a lot of us me included think I can only build one layout so it must be the ‘best it can be’ because you only get one chance. Your thinking is really helping. I’m never going to a professional modeller so why stress about it. Do what I can and enjoy it!!
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
I think the, I must get it right first time brigade discourages a lot of people. CJ Freezer the model railway writer and guru used to say just build something, anything, then enjoy it and move on. You learn by building not planning.
@paulbrennan37604 жыл бұрын
Budget Model Railways I must confess I have used one of the track planning programs. But I’ve used it on the basis of I have this amount of space. I shamelessly cribbed a couple of your shunting layouts for the ends of my end to end. (Hope there’s no copy right chatge😄) and just started playing around laying out virtual track. Till I got something I liked the look of. I know know how much track I need and can start sourcing this as cheaply as possible.
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
To be fair I used any rail software on my n gauge layout
@stephenwebb41075 жыл бұрын
I like your style, I've just been wrestling with different ideas on paper for the scenery on my n gauge layout, it's felt very stressful and at the end of the day nothing got built. I'm inspired by your video to just go for it and let it evolve.
@BudgetModelRailways5 жыл бұрын
Its the way I make most of my layouts, I find they evolve quite nicely
@impspa36764 жыл бұрын
I've been investigating modeling a railway for a few weeks now. This video was like a breath of fresh air in a stodgy environment.
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, we have lots of videos to enjoy
@zan9176 жыл бұрын
Looks like your layout is coming along beautifully! Thanks for the "permission" to get started without having a perfectly finished plan. It's exactly the advice I needed!
@BudgetModelRailways6 жыл бұрын
It's how we build all our layouts, define the space available, play around with track until you get a track plan that fits, then work from there.
@terencebennison62754 жыл бұрын
I'm a 73 year old newbie to model railway layout building and I've been humming and hawing and being held up by just the things you have talked about in this video. It makes total sense to me, especially the "just do it" idea. To be honest I have looked at a lot of brilliant layouts on line, but they have all "over faced " me with the quality, maturity and finished result of them. I know that I need to do as you advise and just get on with it! I have a 9' by 9' box room, I have trains so the first thing is the base board, incidentally I like the cardboard on your layout, sure keeps the weight down. Thanks again. Terry.
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
Hi Terry, I didn't start until I was 55. Take a look at our latest videos of what can be achieved by keeping it simple. The perfect layouts just put people off, build it to a level you enjoy. Have a look at a Barrie Davis video, no scenery even but he has fun. 9x9 I would keep the track plan simple but achievable, second hand track is fine ignore the doom merchants, peco points are best. Have fun. Mike
@terencebennison62754 жыл бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailwaysHii Mike, will do, well I already do, I'm a subscriber already, this video has refreshed me. Thanks again. Terry.
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
Let us know how you get on, thanks for subscribing
@Joe301013 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I found this. What your saying is just have fun. the must be this way people sucked all the fun out of the hobby. Thank you.
@BudgetModelRailways3 жыл бұрын
Thanks we have lots of videos along similar lines, build what you like run what you like as long as you are having fun that's all that matters
@Joe301013 жыл бұрын
I have lost to much time agonizing over stuff. So after this I decided to just do. Enough already time to get back into the hobby for the fun.
@sadieals6 жыл бұрын
I like your no nonsense approach ...you don't need a degree in rock formation as some would suggest! It's a hobby to be enjoyed. Thanks for posting.
@BudgetModelRailways6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, it's quite an effective technique
@underwaterdick5 жыл бұрын
This is a great video, thanks for the advice. I bought a scond hand HST set and oval with points to have a play, then suddenly decided I wanted a proper model railway. Space is a huge issue for me, so it couldn't be very big. Trying to use the VERY small amounts of track that I had, I came up with a great shunting/depot layout idea. - it would require the purchase of more track, but the set I had with 6 straights was enough to start with ideas. I decided just to keep building this layout on my floor and tweaking it. Eventually I decided on the track I would have to buy. Once the track turned up the layout idea grew slightly, then I saw a piece of board in a DIY shop that was 2mx30cm and decided my layout would fit nicely on that. Now as I try things on the board, the layout is ever evolving within the space. I did all this before I saw your video and always questioned if it was the right way to go about things... Now, thanks to your advice I am happy with my decision. It also allows me to purchase the odd item every now and then as it grows, rather than having a big expensive list of things to get from a plan... This means that when I see something cheap, second hand, free or scrap, I can work out a way to use it as and when I have inspiration. By the 'end' of the build (which never has to come if it always evolves) it certainly won't have been budget, but it will have been great fun getting there, and a great lesson should I ever get space to build a second layout. Keep up the great videos!
@BudgetModelRailways5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, loads more videos to watch. Your layout sounds great
@marticon92864 жыл бұрын
Agree with the other comments. You have taken the mystique out of it all and inspired newbies just to get on with it and enjoy!
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, its easy if you keep it simple and just enjoy yourself
@andrewwalsh47986 жыл бұрын
Wow this is so great and simple. One would get the idea from so many big time planners that you must have a Masters degree in architectural, electronics or electrical, or mechanical engineering. You've hit the nail on the head: keep it SIMPLE. This ultra complicated approach that is out there discourages people from entering the hobby. It's gotten too technical and expensive. This is supposed to be a FUN hobby. For the average adult or kid who doesn't have a big budget this is so good and welcome. MORE please. Thank you so much. I still have on old American Flyer s gauge set and my wife is hesitant to let me get any new equipment or try using n scale. I soon will be 72 and yearn to have something I can call a freelance railway, simple and not break my bankmaccount. You've encouraged a lot of us. Thanks again.
@BudgetModelRailways6 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help, good luck with the model railway
@conecuhvalleyttrak4 жыл бұрын
Excellent advice. I think model railroading is a hobby where you learn by doing, by getting your hands dirty and building something. When you do that, often you get inspired to build the next thing, and your railroad grows from there - just like yours has.
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
Its evolution I guess, my loft layout is on about version 4
@diedertspijkerboer5 жыл бұрын
There are some vids I come back to and this is one of them. Although I am a person who likes to plan ahead, this vid reminds me there are limits to that and encourages me to experiment and find a balance that is right for me. For example, I have recently bought 2 inch foam board on which I will put the track because they allow me to easily carve out spaces below track level, such as rivers and canals, but where those will go, I don't know. Similarly I also sometimes am prepared to pay a larger amount for a train pack or loco (still second hand), but this channel helps me be aware of where my priorities lie. So thanks once again for an insightful vid. Keep them coming, because your perspective is sorely needed in this hobby.
@BudgetModelRailways5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support
@rs63835 жыл бұрын
Nice basic layout without all the bells & whistles. Not to fancy but a lot of fun to run. I like the idea of not planning out a layout . Have tried to figure out everything on paper, spending hours on different layouts designs, wasting time & getting frustrated. Came to the conclusion just do it. It works for me. I like to use recycled items ,supplies & save hundreds of dollars. I did a 20'x32' room high shelf H.O. two track in my home on a budget build. Now I'm building a h.o. layout in a spare bedroom. Also on a budget with no definite plans. It is enjoyable creating you own hand crafted layout. I have collected a bunch of N scale track, locomotives & rolling stock for my next project. Not sure on type or size of layout , should be fun to do. Thanks for the video & sharing it. 🚂🚃🚃🚃
@BudgetModelRailways5 жыл бұрын
Good luck with your layouts, they sound great
@richardclowes61232 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with your philosophy. Over lock-down I've built a huge layout with lots of different themes . . . Chatted with the Grandkids, and of course, the wife. Ended up with half an idea and just loosely laid some pieces of track and saw what it looks like. Harry Potter, a Jurassic Mountain, Lord of the Rings Cave with Dragon and gold with Bilbo Baggins hiding, Pirates of the Caribbean, WW2 Airfield, a Town with stations. So many hidden things to look for. That would cause some bozo to have a fit because it's . . . 'not a certain era'. . . . Hell no, but it's got lots going on. But now, I'm building a shunting yard !!!! Totally inspired by your vids. . . . Think the Grandkids are going to love it. Thanks for keeping hands on railwaying real.
@BudgetModelRailways2 жыл бұрын
Sounds totally epic
@bradster17086 жыл бұрын
I like your creativity in creating this layout, not just with the track design but with using items which are cheap or free in a way which works with your creation. That includes materials for terrain as well as buildings. It can be easy to get bogged down with tiny details when trying to plan the “perfect layout” and/or spend large amounts of money to buy specific items. A little imagination goes a long way and you my friend have a great visionary mind
@BudgetModelRailways6 жыл бұрын
Many thanks, and thanks for your support
@BudgetModelRailways8 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael. My freelance rail bus on The Kato chassis goes up the hill ok, i checked this before I finalised the idea. Not sure about others or pulling wagons but it's only supposed to be a rail bus branch. Generally you can use steeper inclines than the text books say as long as you don't want to pull to many wagons/ coaches. Have a look at our OO layout video GreenHill Halt, even a Deltic will go up that incline and its first radius rising 8cm in one half radius! Thanks for the comment.
@markwilliams83692 жыл бұрын
There was a series on TV in the 70’s about building a model railway, the presenter said the first thing to do was to decide which station to model then go there and start measuring everything, including the platform slabs. Never, ever done that, and my layouts are still accepted at exhibitions. Do want ever makes you happy, I say.
@BudgetModelRailways2 жыл бұрын
That was the traditional way, I prefer to use my imagination, fitted to the space I have and then just get on with it lol
@BorneoBatman Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I ended up just going for it like you suggested. I got stressed and discouraged with all the planning so I just went for it. I am a visual learner and i need to see it as I go. I've been having more fun just going for it.
@BudgetModelRailways Жыл бұрын
Same here I learn better by doing than looking
@jefreestarisapedophile59775 жыл бұрын
Thank god! When I asked for advice on Facebook I got bombarded with so much information I didn't need so I just gave up but you have inspired me to take my little "train saving tin" and go get some track and board and just go for it.
@BudgetModelRailways5 жыл бұрын
Works for me, take a look at our other videos for more inspiration, thanks for watching
@pauljohnson57805 жыл бұрын
Best way never plan a layout do it as you go and take your time the only thing you must plan and this is important is were your cup of tea goes
@TheHeinFischer7 жыл бұрын
What a breath of fresh air! Your ideas are creative , and I like the idea of the cardboard base. After looking at so many model railway websites, blog, vlog, forums and eBooks, this is "bestest" I have personally seen. My nature is to plan for ever, so your idea of start building, with what you have is great. I also have a couple of locos and couches from childhood, and would like to set it up more permanently. Greeting from the beautiful Cape Town, SA.
@BudgetModelRailways7 жыл бұрын
Hi, Heinrich, Great to hear from South Africa, and thank you so much for the kind complements! Are they SA Locos? can you send us some pictures please!? Hope you have enjoyed our other videos aswell. Thanks again, Mike & Douglas
@TheHeinFischer7 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike and Douglas. I have gone through all the video, up to S01E14 :), and also excited about your preparation for the show. In the 70's and 80's , Lima made South African Locos, and in South Africa, they are quite in demand at the present for some 'roaders. Yesterday, I built a 4m x 1m (13ft x 3ft) bench, and laid the trackes. I didn't go the cardboard root, as I already had the wood. The minister of internal affairs couldn't believe that it came up so quickly , and looks so nice. I shall post a link later, first need to get my online e-social skills mastered. Here is a link of a SAR set that was made by LIMA. 3.bp.blogspot.com/-FiFmNRFu318/TxpZhZhbp-I/AAAAAAAAAnQ/kI--Nl9vQZY/s400/limasar001.jpg
@sarmodelrailroad84637 жыл бұрын
Progress in pics Heinrich goo.gl/photos/v6Bxg4LvEzL6EQu9A
@BudgetModelRailways7 жыл бұрын
Hi that's great, glad you have got something under way. Yes please do send us some pics when you have them?
@BudgetModelRailways7 жыл бұрын
Great looking track plan and layout, look forward to seeing an update.
@peterdebaere28404 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all those great and good tips. I also work that way, without a plan and just build what I feel like. You have a Belgian fan.
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter, all the best to our friends in Belgium. Lots of other videos to enjoy
@jvanamb5 жыл бұрын
I agree fully with your DON'T PLAN it philosophy, but I'd add DON'T PLAN IT, DO IT. For decades now I have been using a concept we in the U.S. call TOMA (The One Module Approach) which is consistent with your idea. Great video. Crack on. I'll SEE YA' DOWN THE LINE, Jim
@BudgetModelRailways5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim, well said
@sailingschooners86682 жыл бұрын
Good advice as most homes are already crowded and today's costs along with expensive companies ripping everyone off !
@MrHavasquez886 жыл бұрын
It is a great vid, just thinking about getting into this hobby myself. Something I have wanted since i was a kid. Thanks for the ideas and good luck finding those chance pieces! Looking great
@hookabunny50303 жыл бұрын
Just build it totally dig it... Started n scale coffee table 2' by 4' and z scale on top of that coffee table 17" by 4' just building it and Love my creation of train skill from nothing to something
@wadepenley52014 жыл бұрын
Im from America and you just put my mind at ease. Thank you sir
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
So glad we could help one of our US cousins, thanks for watching
@amywhite93863 жыл бұрын
Love the concept of the plan as you go approach. As our skill level and imagination increases, or we so something we like, I love the flexibility to modify my layout. Thanks for sharing
@BudgetModelRailways3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting
@evileyeball3 жыл бұрын
See at present I know that Money and space keep me from having a layout so I live vicariously through youtubers like you and I build up a file on my computer with ideas I have as time passes so that in future once a space in my home clears out and extra money is had If I want to make a layout I know what I want in it and I can go from there as far as planning is concerned. Plus as a Miniature Wargamer the terrain ideas from Layouts are helpful for that.
@onamission83975 жыл бұрын
This is the way I'm going to do it I'd read all the stuff in forums about planning layouts and it seemed very confusing plus I don't have time or money for that, I'd rather just experiment with the actual track iv got and see what I can do with it. Although I started this idea of building a railway last week trying to keep the cost down is doable, for a set some extra track,a left point, a right point a roll of cork and some extra fishplates iv spent about £90 it's a starting point .Keep up the videos because like you I'm on a budget and find your videos so useful.
@BudgetModelRailways5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and glad we could help. A set and some extra tracking a board is an excellent start and can provide lots of fun building it and lots more operating potential than people think, take a look at some of my videos on my Homewood or market town layouts. Have fun with it and let us know how you get on
@FredWilbury8 жыл бұрын
Hi ..great tips ...I know I've spent ages faffing around ... and haven't got round to running Trains ....thanks again
@thegreypenguin50976 жыл бұрын
I actually use a free software on mac. It is super helpful because it gives you a list of what you need. This helps estimate the cost and know what you actually need to buy. There is almost endless options for gauge and brand.
@Wilayaat5 жыл бұрын
Can you let me know what this software is please? I have a Mac and would love to have a go at it!
@mrblue0285 жыл бұрын
Great video. Your so right. I think I suffer from over thinking doing a layout. Lol You give great advice. Just start with what space you have.
@simon018376 жыл бұрын
I built my entire layout matching your philosphy . Great video.
@simon018376 жыл бұрын
Sorry what I meant to say that the layout is finished to a point but i have been building with the same point of view as your self . My layout is 10 years in the making 5 years off here and there , but started in 2007. I will gladly send you some pics . It only took ages to make because I wanted it to. But all on a scrap find it in a skip or boot sale budget. And lots of ebay. Lots of remodeling of buildings and tonnes of mistakes , but so much fun learning ,youtube tutorial vids are like the dad that helps you get into a hobby . Again 10/10 for your channel , I to thought running any stock on any eara and no planning at all was just me ,actually enjoying my TOYS and not being an old railway fart . Lol sorry no offence meant to my subscribers x
@BudgetModelRailways6 жыл бұрын
I see where you are coming from, well in that case we agree 100% on our approach to model railways, mistakes and having fun certainly sums up how we started. At the end of he day it's all just playing with trains
@Calvertfilm4 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you 100%. Just do it. Planning never seems to work once you lay the track out anyway. Laying track first lets you know where most of the other things go. Then buildings and landscape items go in after that. As you say it evolves, and you may change track design. Run your trains on it and make sure they can navigate any obstacles due to overhanging, and points/curves not to close to platforms. If you need to change scenery, just do it. Not hard is it, and most layout evolve even when built? Plenty of good tips here. Laurie.
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
Thanks I fully agree
@sja13125 жыл бұрын
love your videos and will hopefully use them to create my own layout soon. thanks
@brucemou17 жыл бұрын
Wonderful Layout! Thank you for all the tips.
@southjersey106 жыл бұрын
I toss between coming close to prototypical and total free lancing. I’m now starting to build small layouts for kids to get hands on experience operating layout. This is where not planning a layout and just building it works well. Kids have imaginations and why not as adults use imagination when constructing a layout. Also have a constraint of space helps to really use those brain cells to come up with a layout that is interesting and fits within the constraints.
@BudgetModelRailways6 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea to encourage and inspire a new generation, well done
@NixTrains7 жыл бұрын
You think loads like me! Lol! Very helpful for many- who just love "to do with what they have". There are many like that lad who need the precious guidance / encouragement! We all do! Cheers! Particularly for this ideology!
@BudgetModelRailways7 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for your support, we try and make things simple, compact ,quick and cheap.
@NixTrains7 жыл бұрын
Thanks indeed for your support too.
@davidsheriff89893 жыл бұрын
Good to see you again....great advice...I wonder how many start off with big ideas only to regret later..
@BudgetModelRailways3 жыл бұрын
That's what happened to my loft layout hence the current re build
@gmaneis6 жыл бұрын
Your attitude toward the whole model railway idea is fantastic. This makes me think it should be illegal to have as much fun as you are having! Thank you for posting, and greetings from New Mexico, USA. New subscriber.
@BudgetModelRailways6 жыл бұрын
Hello to New Mexico and thanks for subscribing, I'm sure the anti fun police will catch up with us eventually!
@philipplumb85522 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! Great way of thinking, much appreciated.
@BudgetModelRailways2 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help, don't over plan, start and let it evolve
@geoffreylee51996 жыл бұрын
Wing it, is a common method... as the plan develops the purpose comes to you. Good one!
@BudgetModelRailways6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, it works for us
@ModelMinutes6 жыл бұрын
Took me about 5 minutes before I realised it was N gauge! I never planned a layout when I had space for model trains, just let the creativity flow
@BudgetModelRailways6 жыл бұрын
I've heard of people planning a layout for two years, and even met one chap who had been planning, contemplating and buying for ten years, but still hadn't started his layout!
@ModelMinutes6 жыл бұрын
Budget Model Railways wow! Planning or procrastinating?! Hahaha
@tsu80034 жыл бұрын
I've been building my.2 metre by 1 metre diorama for 2 years but keep having new ideas to add to it. I've dismantled the entire thing more times than I can remember. The good thing is it saves me having to do the ballasting!
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like my loft layout
@brucemou17 жыл бұрын
I like your set up and your explanations. Looks great!
@BudgetModelRailways7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruce.
@johndavies67696 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the straightforward clear advice
@BudgetModelRailways6 жыл бұрын
Thanks John. Sometimes it's better just to have a rough plan and get on with it than plan and procrastinate?
@nedmerrill57055 жыл бұрын
I think the "no plan, just do it" approach works for some people but not all. I need _some_ idea of where the trains are going to go to get started, but I sort of free-lance when it comes to working out details of where the tracks go in switching areas and such; I try the tracks and structures this way and that until it looks right.
@BudgetModelRailways5 жыл бұрын
Sounds a good plan
@kevingreen40543 жыл бұрын
Thank you it's very helpful, I've got the same size piece of wood, and bust playing around with model train software, and seeing your "triangle" or curved main track, I'm going to play around with your idea. Thanks again
@BudgetModelRailways3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help, have fun with it
@peterbradford59873 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@wills_corner3 жыл бұрын
I always use Bachmann's Nickel Silver EZ-Track, just so I can change the layout whenever I want if stuff gets boring
@cartersense6 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna do one on a standard flat interior 32 inch door. I've got an idea and I like the no plan route.
@martinpook57076 жыл бұрын
Excellent, better to get on with things and let them develop, you'll then discover the area of modelling that you really enjoy. And don't just spend money. Keep it up.
@BudgetModelRailways6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support. I find unlike a lot of people that I like most aspects of the hobby, which could be expensive, but I don't have a lot of money to spend, hence the budget angle.
@id10tcertified6 жыл бұрын
I bought a heap of used track and some buildings etc and roughly set it up until I got close to what I can build in the space I have and even after that have changed it three more times: I'm only just now after two months starting to cut and lay foam... it all started when I bought a used Minic set the same as I had when a kid and recalled the level crossing that integrated into it. Buy job lots, just make sure it's good usable and sell off what you don't use, quite often you'll get your money back. Btw, mine is size of my dining room, the base is four hollow and braced doors and will be on a pulley so it lifts giving 6'6" head space under it.
@BudgetModelRailways6 жыл бұрын
Sounds epic! I have bought job lots several times and kept what I wanted and sold the rest off for more than I paid for it.
@Beatlefan672 жыл бұрын
I concur completely!
@Batesandrw4 жыл бұрын
I really like your down to earth approach.
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@pb78904 жыл бұрын
Excellent im going to do something like that !!
@TheGamingEevee84 жыл бұрын
Got everything now to do it, but stuck on the planning stage, I think I will do what you said and just go with whatever is in my head.
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
Its the best way
@TheGamingEevee84 жыл бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways Thanks currently working on it now 👍
@wills_corner3 жыл бұрын
3:27 DAMN that's a cog railway incline if I've ever seen one!
@Kevin-ur7zk2 жыл бұрын
Informative video, Though I'm have trouble believing its 1 foot wide is that correct? Unless it's N guage. Have you made any vidoes showing how you lay, fix, wire a layout? As I'm a complete beginner. Thanks
@BudgetModelRailways2 жыл бұрын
It's N gauge. We have lots of videos on laying and wiring track plus most aspects of model railways. Best advice is keep it simple
@petermahon46416 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy your channel. Not my scale but I always learn things and gain insghts into new approaches :-)
@BudgetModelRailways6 жыл бұрын
In the end I gave up with N it was just too small, and shunting was tricky, and even second hand it was expensive, so went back to OO
@theblytonian39065 жыл бұрын
Procrastination in pursuit of perfection is a flawed 'plan'. I concur that the singular most important thing is to just start. Get some track down and something running to have fun. A standard oval with a couple of crossovers and shunting or section or Hornby Trackmat layout will do. Simple, quick, affordable. Ideas, aspiration and creativity will stem from there flowing from the hands on experience.
@BudgetModelRailways5 жыл бұрын
Very well said, spot on
@philipstickings71094 жыл бұрын
Agree with your sentiments entirely. 👍
@alastairwoolley42275 жыл бұрын
I would echo other comments about the very refreshing approach to model railways. After all a lot of it is about enjoyment rather than 100% absolute historical accuracy or never making mistakes. Also the pace of the commentary is very good. I get fed up with the terrible, pedestrian dialogue that accompanies so many videos.
@BudgetModelRailways5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support, we try very hard to make enjoyable videos to reflect as you say that model railways should be about fun not 100% perfection
@tsu80034 жыл бұрын
Just go with what fits your space and experiment with different layouts until you are happy with what you decide on and build around it temporarily as you will no doubt find other ideas as you go along.
@Mark_Provan7 жыл бұрын
Hello, i like your thinking ! planning is fine but can also limit creativity if to rigid. Evolving a layout as you build it brings new and exciting ideas and makes it more enjoyable to build. Mark :)
@BudgetModelRailways7 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, thanks for your support. I find I'm much more creative when I don't plan. I like going in my local second hand model rail shop and seeing what inspires me, esp buildings.
@086DEN7 жыл бұрын
Great stuff lad, enjoyed that
@BudgetModelRailways7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Denis, your support is appreciated.
@geckophoto17 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic! I am disabled and do not have a great budget as I only get Benefits to pay bills etc.. so not much left to afford to try build a model railway! I have the space in a loft but every site I have looked at to help reduce the price of wood used etc. is going to be very costly. I bought my trains about 25 years ago and moving all the time had to get rid of my 6’ x 4’! now I am going to have a loft space and need to make a safe secure area for myself ( and not drop out of the loft door!) I think I need to go down your road? As I am using a loft the temperature changes greatly, is there a board I should not use?
@BudgetModelRailways7 жыл бұрын
Hi Anthony, thanks for the comments. We used plywood as this is less likely to warp, our problem is it's very hot in the summer although we do have a dormer window. Take a look at our other videos and if you email us at BMRNewsletter@gmail.com we will add you to our monthly newsletter. Thanks for watching and let us know how you get on.
@Mark_Provan7 жыл бұрын
I have my layout in the Garage which will be similar to a loft regarding temperature variations. I use chipboard with 25mm thick polystyrene tiles on top of the board as the base of my layout. It seems to help with any warpage and is useful for creating rivers etc. The tiles were cheap to buy on eBay. Hope this helps :)
@ВалерийФилиппов-д8о6 жыл бұрын
Very good.
@brucemou17 жыл бұрын
Wonderful job! I got some good ideas from your layout.
@BudgetModelRailways7 жыл бұрын
Hi Bruce, thanks for your support. Take a look at our other videos for more ideas. How are you getting on with your layout?
@FredWilbury8 жыл бұрын
Ps love the cardboard I saved all mine from ikea packaging..brilliant
@BudgetModelRailways8 жыл бұрын
Hi Fred. I've found my local kitchen appliance store will let me rummage in their recycling and take what I need. Have experimented with using laminations of corrugated card to make base boards, hope to get a video on line at some point. I know what you mean about running trains, I've just built a small loop base just so I can run some trains.
@drungo234 жыл бұрын
Yes, that was the first thing I noticed. Working in IKEA's product quality department and repacking I see soo many of those damn fillers might as well put them to good use lol. Also this video truly took the guess work out of my planning. I assume it would be best to start out small and then gradually build on a simple easy concept, while shopping at second hand stores for scenery pieces. I got lucky at my fav consignment shop with a guy that found a semi complete Hawthorne village layout.
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
Keep it simple and let it evolve works for me. Sounds like you have an eye for recycled model railways too
@davidsheriff89894 жыл бұрын
Raised background will give it added dimension..but this is great
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jazzman16266 жыл бұрын
Planning was the one thing I was really dreading. I was going to try a computer program, but I find them too complicated. Now, I just have a very rough idea of what I want. In a ‘U’-shaped layout, loosely based on the closed part of the Edinburgh to Carlisle line, the Waverley station will just be a representation of it, not a strictly followed copy. The other end will be a small station long since gone (sigh). Along the way, I would like to put a girder bridge and Instead of building an elevated line, I intend to leave a gap in the baseboard and use that to hopefully build a gorge with a waterfall. Apart from that, I don’t have any plans drawn out.
@BudgetModelRailways6 жыл бұрын
You have the basic concept in your head , I find its easier then to start fiddling around with bits of track
@robot77594 жыл бұрын
It's simply about space, square footage if you like, and scale.
@Finnertoncentralmodelrailway7 жыл бұрын
Im exactly the same mine was not planned too but ive got loads of hornby buildings and platforms that are of no use to me points too some stuff broken or butchered in some way that im going to get rid of if your interested? Reminds me i need a clear out for new stuff haha.
@marka876 жыл бұрын
What thickness is your cardboard support? Does it last ok in the long term for a permanent layout would you say? What are you supporting your inclined track on? Sorry for lots of questions but I’m trying to find a cheap and easy way to build a viaduct for my railway which will run across and down the length of my layout at the back.
@BudgetModelRailways6 жыл бұрын
We have hit no long term problems using cardboard as a construction method having built two exhibition layouts and several others. The inclined track is just supported on corrugated cardboard uprights, like you say no need to over engineer it
@fredgrove42208 жыл бұрын
I'm very envious. Just the fact that you can buy anything for a layout at all. I'm an Englishman, now living in the Philippines, ( married to a Filipina ) and model railways just do not exist in this country. Also, I cannot get anyone to post items here, because the system here is so corrupt, I'd never receive it. I'd love to be able to build a layout again, but just not able to.
@BudgetModelRailways8 жыл бұрын
Hi Fred. Sorry to hear about your predicament, the postage is a real problem. I've posted a few bits to Sri Lanka ok but sadly some countries postal is to unreliable, Russia was a night mare! Do you ever make it back to the UK? It seems a shame that many countries have no culture of model railways. Mike
@fredgrove42208 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, no, I haven't been back to UK for over 5 years. The airfare is prohibitive, about 750 quid round trip. The postal system here is a total joke. It took over 4 weeks for a letter to go from Dasmarinas to Manila, about 35 km. When my wifes sister got the envelope, it had been opened to see if there was anything in it worth stealing.
@BudgetModelRailways8 жыл бұрын
Hi Fred, just a thought but is UPS etc more reliable? I'm guessing that it's a bit costly though at about £50 a parcel. Might be ok if you had everything sent in one go to reduce costs?
@lucasmustang663 жыл бұрын
So does this loop at all? Or do you just back up and go forward?
@BudgetModelRailways3 жыл бұрын
No it was just an end to end shunting layout
@dutchbeef89204 жыл бұрын
Subscribed after seeing this video 👍🏻
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
Great thanks,lots more videos to watch
@TheJpec3615 жыл бұрын
Just stumbled across this one...brilliant concept and a brilliant layout. I had a laugh when you said you were chuffed with 30 subscribers to the channel...early days!
@BudgetModelRailways5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, yes at 12.5k we have come on a bit since the A!
@paulhorn26655 жыл бұрын
Well your statement is a double-edged sword. If you are on a budget, a little planning with a simple track plan makes sense. So its cheaper to draw some tracks and know what you want to built, so you can search for exactly the track-plus safety marge- you need. Planning safes money!
@johnkuzma70664 жыл бұрын
The thing I really dont get is when people plan garden railways, atlest with an indoor railway there is no possibility of a huge rock getting in the way of the holy track plan.
@kae44665 жыл бұрын
one day a friend said to me kae4466 we are going to build you a train layout( baseboard). we went to 2 hardware stores and bought the following, four screw in bases , four legs that screw into the bases and the basoard itself. i live in a small apartment 600 square feet and the baseboard is a 4foot by 4 foot board. i have 3 ovals of track of different gauges , outermost 3 rail o gauge . ho and n. i also have a village and tunnel. works fine for me .:) i also bookmarked this site and am going to subscribe as well.
@BudgetModelRailways5 жыл бұрын
Sounds great, have fun with it
@AndreaBoost4 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@7kslair1537 жыл бұрын
This is how I'm building my layout: make a random computer plan, put the basis of it together with the track I have, then, wing it, it's no fun planning like some people do.
@BudgetModelRailways7 жыл бұрын
Hi thanks for your comment. glad you enjoyed the video it's pretty much how we make all our layouts. We start with what space do we have and then what track do we have and then go from there. good luck with your layout, it would be great to see some pictures.
@B-A-L3 жыл бұрын
I used my track planning software to work out, well, the track planning and then just worked the buildings and scenery around it.
@williamrathwell7665 жыл бұрын
Nice video I will try some of your ideas.
@iandouglas4515 жыл бұрын
love the concept - can you help me with a train, i am not fussy but it has to work well (00) - i guess any sales from major retailers like hattons?
@tonydee20697 жыл бұрын
From the sounds of it, judging by the last time I was in the UK... people pay more for a boring diner than you have invested in this railway! And to extend in both directions - is just a matter of where to put the sections when you need to get it out of the way... best to get the rest of 'life' out of the way of the model railway...
@BudgetModelRailways7 жыл бұрын
You are so right. We try and show you don't have too, or need too, spend hundreds of pounds to make a decent model railway.
@DenisineD27 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting for not pricy and easy way to storage layout...guess i could build module units that i could store easily since i miss place where i am now...N scale is amazing
@BudgetModelRailways7 жыл бұрын
Hi Denis, the module concept can work quite well. I've had to give up N now, it's just to small fur me and not being able to effectively shunt is a problem.
@nutsnbolts775 жыл бұрын
spot on
@wills_corner3 жыл бұрын
I have limited space, and I'm building my first layout. It's track powered. Idk if I should build point-to-point or continuous. HELP! -WillsCorner
@BudgetModelRailways3 жыл бұрын
It depends what you want to do, watch train go round or shunt/switch. My latest layout does both so have a look at our latest two videos on the layout of that helps
@wills_corner3 жыл бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways i would love switching, but I want a mainline too. I can start wi- LIGHTBULB
@NirateGoel4 жыл бұрын
Isn't looking at what space you have planning? Plus it's helpful to have an idea what you want to go in the space before you go spending money.
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
Some planning is OK, planning for ten years to get it right before you start isn't
@andrewstanley47214 жыл бұрын
I'm still at the stage of working out what type of track plan i want ,very hard to decide on a good track plan this will be my first major layout plan ,please help with ideas thanks Andrew
@BudgetModelRailways4 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew, it depends on whether you are planning end to end, shunting or an oval concept. What size do you have please? Whatever you are doing keep it simple, more layouts fail due to overly complex, over ambitious track plans than anything else.
@geoffreylee51996 жыл бұрын
Hide the rock gaps with greenery.
@Andy001z8 жыл бұрын
hi some great ideas and advice, I've been collecting bits and bobs for the last two years and feel about ready to pull something together, i like this build it and see approach. I know my space so it's just finding the time. I like the angle and incline is that hard to do? thanks.
@BudgetModelRailways8 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, yes if only we could buy time! Inclines are a lot easier than people think, just lift the track up the height you need in the distance you have using books or something and then run locos up it and see what will pull what, you will soon see what works. The Hornby risers are quite good as well. Some planning is good but not if it takes up too much time, if you only have a limited space you only have a few options in any case. I'm just working on a small OO layout myself.
@Andy001z8 жыл бұрын
I think you said in the video, what was the actual dimensions of this project. I had another look at my area last evening and it was depressingly small. NGauge is small but I want some track otherwise it becomes a static model scene.