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@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
Frustrated by making lots of mistakes? This can help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJvah4yMmtysgJo
@frederickweeksjr.1189 Жыл бұрын
Can this be used in any style?
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
@@frederickweeksjr.1189 Yes - it's just a mathematical division that works anytime you play 3 against 2.
@frederickweeksjr.1189 Жыл бұрын
@@ThePianoProfKateBoyd interesting 🤔. Seeing that I'm still learning the number system I never thought of that process. I'll try it with my original music as well as music i play presently. Thank you 😊
@yhuang35129 ай бұрын
nice cup of tea works too with the 2 and 3
@yhuang35129 ай бұрын
I mean 3 against 2
@robertthomas55784 ай бұрын
This technique taught me how to play Debussy Arabesque 1
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd4 ай бұрын
Yay- glad it worked!!
@SunRoadG0719 күн бұрын
Same, struggle so much until i watched this!!
@wsp912 Жыл бұрын
Please do 4 against 3, 5 against 3,etc
@prophetpug7929 Жыл бұрын
For 4 against 3 I’ve heard “pass the god damn butter” where four is -pass the damn ter- and 3 is -pass god but-. Hope this helps!
@fromhl76197 ай бұрын
If you still struggle with that, look for a Fantasie Impromptu tutorial, it helped me master that pattern.
@orange9107 Жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@_sonicfive Жыл бұрын
Something you definitely need to feel.
@BodybuilderKingViky Жыл бұрын
I learnt polyrhythms like that too but my words were, too difficult, too difficult.😂
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
😂
@sonja_rademacher Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@gladiadorcibernetico8 ай бұрын
This really helped me unlock polyrythms in my brain😂
@charlie-gm6mi9 ай бұрын
i clicked on this video bc im learning the first arabesque and i was like oh this applies to me and thne u played it
@Unmighty1 Жыл бұрын
Very creative!
@JacobGreer51 Жыл бұрын
Great tutorial!
@XxsapphyredragonxX Жыл бұрын
The trick is to keep saying it until you believe it 😂
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
That's one of the reasons I like that particular mnemonic device, as opposed to some of the others out there. The power of positive thinking! 😂
@rdriskie_lopl Жыл бұрын
I was learning that same piece but I gave up because I wasn't capable of playing that rhythm. Thank you!
@xantho06 Жыл бұрын
EVERY PIANIST NEEDA SEE THIS
@wolkjes Жыл бұрын
Omg just when I was about to give up on this part of the piece your video popped up and now I can play it! Thank you so much! :)
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
Wow - that's great! Good luck!
@intuitivescorpio4521 Жыл бұрын
Ty 😊
@intuitivescorpio4521 Жыл бұрын
Valeria Lail-Bolen
@danielagutierrez893 Жыл бұрын
Gonna try it tomorrow morning, I'm also frustrated with Mozart's sonata in f major, there's two passages with this same rythm and i SUFFER.
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
Yes, that spot is tricky! Good luck!
@Dylanthestudent Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!! I’m learning arabesque no 1 and this is such a good tip!!!
@TheGoldenHorncall4 ай бұрын
Simply watch Jacob Collier play 2 against 3 against 4 against 5 against 6 all on the fingers of one hand and suddenly 2 against 3 sounds pretty doable
@Piano_improvisations Жыл бұрын
In germany we say: Kalbs leber wurst
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
That's great! I hadn't heard that one! 😂 Schöne Grüße!
@randykern1842 Жыл бұрын
Once you get it though, OMG they are so satisfying and fun to play.
@omsiravvel7805 Жыл бұрын
Same strategy toghether right left right togheter 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
Yep! 😊
@Snargloffin2 ай бұрын
For me it wasn’t hard until quintuplets were introduced
@dorothyli7708 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!~ I have been struggling about this for months and my teacher keep telling me I play the rhythm wrongly. After using ‘not difficult’, my teacher finally told me I have played it correctly.😆😆 May I know if there are any tips to play 6 to 4? I am struggling with this too😩🙈
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! 6 vs 4 is still 3 vs 2 so you can divide the 6 by 2 and the 4 by 2 to feel 2 triplets against 2 duples. Does that makes sense?
@noahsgettinhisboat81510 ай бұрын
I memorized it as the rythym of Carol of the Bells or whatever it's called
@iranenor69659 ай бұрын
two against three isnt hard, three against four is hard
@G-wk4gt Жыл бұрын
Great way!
@itssammieluck Жыл бұрын
Oh my god, i love this so much! Thank you for making this!
@algalgod1599 ай бұрын
Make sure you unlearn the mouth voice part during a concert : p
@DavidMiller-bp7et Жыл бұрын
Great acrostic, pulses correct but also sheds the notion that difficult struggles is not this, psychologically, which can be distracting.
@SaveManWoman Жыл бұрын
Awesome this is how they teach Indian Tabla with each stroke of the finger or combo there of labeled.
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
So cool!!
@JosephC95 ай бұрын
I'm tall. When I dunk, I tell my wife and son, it's not difficult not difficult not difficult. Really.
@gaet.in4k10 ай бұрын
is so ez
@ericcc4172 Жыл бұрын
I was taught “hot cup of tea” but this is a great way to remember it!
@infochan677611 ай бұрын
The British way.
@donainongz2185 Жыл бұрын
I thought u were playing rush e
@jasonfutrell9575 Жыл бұрын
You are an angel!!!! Thank you!!!
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd11 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@unirainbow4063 Жыл бұрын
i always used blueberry pie 😋
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
Love this! 🥰
@djembesoloshorts Жыл бұрын
Nice
@Budolf4 ай бұрын
Carol of tge bells helps
@Quirktart Жыл бұрын
For me it was always just Carol of the Bells
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
That's a good one!
@nilskroehl Жыл бұрын
Please do 4:3, 3:5, 4:5
@thegoodguys27224 ай бұрын
wow!!! loved this! really helped me out, I've never thought about it in this way! Awesome!!
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd4 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@lizweekes80763 ай бұрын
Thanks kate🎉 I played that piece of music 🎵🎶 in an exam thirty years ago.🎉
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd3 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!!
@BowGification Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I just needed this, not difficult indeed ☺️
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! Glad it helped! 😊
@G-wk4gt Жыл бұрын
Great way!
@lethargicsloth4913 Жыл бұрын
Now do 3 against 4. No matter how hard I try, I JustCan Not DoIt.
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
Here it is - good luck! kzbin.infom4FO9FyKrYY
@danielkushla2383 Жыл бұрын
Godowsky
@ideacharlie7 ай бұрын
Genius
@99zxk Жыл бұрын
Not bad, but doesn't that have the wrong accent pattern?
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
Not sure what you mean by this - can you clarify what accent pattern you're referring to?
@tim40gabby25 Жыл бұрын
" J Collier" works too :)
@mikehutton393721 күн бұрын
This is how I learned when I was young. Getting proper separation of hands for polyrhythmic playing needs a completely different approach. For most people 2v3 or 3v4 are as hard as it needs to get. For true polyrhythms - which many professionals struggle with - you need to break your brain first, and this usually means learning a mind-bending etude like Scriabin op8 no4. What you're actually doing is concentrating on one hand being in one sense of time, and then the other. It takes a lot of practice in separate hands before putting them together. But once you've done that with 3/5 or 4/5 you can pretty much do anything. Try it! The method here works to start off with, but it doesn't solve the underlying problem, which is your brain!
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd21 күн бұрын
Great point! Training the mind to adjust to your two hands doing very independent and conflicting rhythms is very difficult and takes time. This video is also clipped from a longer video in which I go into more depth: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n32kmZqJgZunqJosi=bFuacx3IXdKm2Hgi
@mikehutton393721 күн бұрын
@@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Thanks for the link. Your 3/4 video gets closer, but it's still very mechanical in its approach. I was very lary about polyrhythms until I came across Scriabin 8:4, which took me a year to learn. Most of it is 3/5, interspersed with the odd 4/5, but the hardest bar is 3/4 when you're switching out of the primary polyrhythm to another. Oddly the 4/5 bars aren't quite so much of a problem. My own approach was radically different to yours, although here are similarities. It was somewhat complicated by the piece switching from 3/5 to 4/5 mid-piece, which meant a mechanical method just doesn't cut it. I found the mnemonic approach distinctly counterproductive, in that it was reinforcing the idea of tying the action of the two hands together in some form, whereas the approach I used was completely the opposite. The starting exercise is with scales, where you progressively speed up the right hand an indeterminate amount, and then slow it back down again until the hands are in unison. To keep time you concentrate on the left hand while you're playing, and then switch to the right, and then back to the left again, and so on. To start off you'll find the other hand drifts back to the hand you concentrate on, so you switch back and forth to reinforce the difference. Then repeat by speeding up the left hand instead, and so on. The actual precision in terms of time is kept by the hand which isn't changing tempo, but the point is not to be precise about how much you speed up or slow down the other hand. After a while you can speed up one hand and slow down the other at the same time, while keeping the internal clock which allows both hands to come back together at the original tempo. Once you have done this, the only issue you have after this is precision, which to an extent you cover in the later parts of your video. The "feel" of the piece is that one hand is speeding up or slowing down against the other, rather than trying to fit a set pattern you have designated and remembered in your brain. The advantage of using indeterminate speeds is that you are properly dissociating the tempi, whcih would then allow you (for example) to suddenly switch from 3/5 to 4/5 just by speeding up (or slowing down) the tempo of your right hand relative to the left, rather than needing to adopt a new rhythmic pattern. What you can then do - and practice enough and it becomes automatic - is approach long-running polyrhythmic passages (e.g 11/8 followed by 14/8 or something else which is Chopinesque) in a way which means the passage itself doesn't have an internal rhythm as such, but rather you keep the 8 beats in one hand and can just organically speed up and slow down with the other hand. What you then produce sounds radically different. You can tell which professionals can do this just by listening to them. Not all have that organic flow capability, but without this true separation you will always be tied to some kind of rhythmic pattern. Scriabin 8:4 was an epiphany moment in my piano playing. Just managing to get through 3/5 - 4/5 - 3/4 using the approach above suddenly opened up a lot of Chopin which I hadn't been able to attempt properly before, and allowed me to start proper dissociation for dramatic effect in other pieces. I don't know if the above makes sense, or is even helpful. But I wish I'd been taught about this in my teenage years rather than having to discover it more than 20 years later.
@vinnyno.1 Жыл бұрын
I love this video!!!!! Thank you!!!
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
You are so welcome! Glad you found it helpful!
@mariocarrion780710 ай бұрын
I like your tip. Thanks
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd10 ай бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
@TheBLUETOOTHpoet8 ай бұрын
Awesome communication ! Funny the IRONY !
@mariamhussein719 Жыл бұрын
Love this! Amazing and underrated
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@rupe8210 ай бұрын
Not classical music but Daydreaming by Radiohead helped me learn how to play polyrhythms. It's a beautiful, simple progression but it helps you get the feel for polyrhythms.
@950name11 ай бұрын
For 3:2 you can just play a regular eighth note triplet with the second note replaced by 2 sixteenth notes.
@mannymistakesin8353 Жыл бұрын
I tried this at work. Everytime we were unloading 100lbs sacks Id sing this. I got punched. This only applies to talented people on the piano. It does not work on a drilling rig with roughnecks but honestly that's my bad
@TC-ym1vk7 ай бұрын
Ma’am you are absolutely correct. As an African American I am on the 2 and the 4 as other are on the 1 and 3 naturally. That made me feel so validated❤❤❤❤
@samtirio34684 ай бұрын
I remember learning the beginning of this piece with so much confidence until I reached this part and I almost had a heart attack
@kennethschweighardt492010 ай бұрын
Thank-you for this! I can play the song right up to this part... I cannot wait to practice this
@sofiafurman68749 ай бұрын
i wish i had seen this a few months ago, that specific pattern on the 1st arabesque took me forever to learn 😂
@DmitriShostakovichDSCH11 ай бұрын
THIS VIDEO JUST SINGLE-HANDEDLY FIXED A PROBLEM I HAVE HAD FOR THREE WEEKS
@imNotDashh Жыл бұрын
Very nice tutorial!
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@neilr5208 Жыл бұрын
Or just use basic subdivisions, 1 . 2 + 3
@danielagutierrez893 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't work for me :(
@neilr5208 Жыл бұрын
@@danielagutierrez893 Count 1 2 and 3 The 3 rhythm goes on 1, 2, 3 The 2 goes on 1 and the "and" of 2 1 (+) 2 .+. 3 (+) 3____3____3___ 2_______2_____
@assisjaimedeoliveira50422 ай бұрын
Tkanks!
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd2 ай бұрын
You are most welcome!
@ruthmckee4905 Жыл бұрын
Nice cup of tea
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
Yes!!!!! That's another one people use - thanks for the reminder! Have a great day! 🎹🥳
@Templarkommando Жыл бұрын
A good example, my theory professor also liked the main motif from "Carol of the Bells."
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
Yes, that's also a great one.
@dynamicgecko1213 Жыл бұрын
I'm a self learner and this seems like it works for me. Thanks a lot!
@thegzak2 ай бұрын
Super useful!
@ThePianoProfKateBoydАй бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ThePianoProfKateBoydАй бұрын
I'm glad it was helpful! Happy practicing! 😊
@chriswaegerle2260 Жыл бұрын
Great simple explanation!
@brianhayes7357 Жыл бұрын
Bacon and eggs, bacon and eggs...
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I love learning about all of these other helpful phrases people use!
@8kw7mx9 Жыл бұрын
2:3 is easy, 3:4 is easy too, but many people slide in some swing and do it wrong, 4:5 and further is when it gets a bit tougher
@shayne881 Жыл бұрын
The trick is to not think about it.polyrhythm is God