How to Play Death Sludge Like Primitive Man - My Will

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Gear Used for this lesson:
First Act Custom Shop DC-6
'74 Gen 1 Sunn O))) Model T
Acid Rain Pedalworks Judas: acidrainpedalw...
Two Notes CAB M+
G#-Standard Tuning: G#-C#-F#-B-D#-G#
Stringjoy Custom Strings: 16-74
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Not a standard power chord in sight for this pummeling tune of dissonant riffs and hatred!
Primitive Man tunes down 4 full steps, or 8 semitones. I've strung up with a set of 16-74 strings for this tuning (I believe Ethan uses 17-74).
My Will doesn't really have a key and is full of dissonant sounding Root-6th (R6) dyads.
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[@DoesItDoom]

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[@dirtdobbin_graverobbin]

I just KNEW Primitive Man would show up here eventually. One of, if not THE, heaviest band in existence.

[@DoesItDoom]

Hard to imagine anything much heavier.

[@billyalarie929]

@@DoesItDoom The Body?

[@magickev4169]

Ommadon is pretty heavy

[@januszjankes6423]

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[@michaelmasiello6752]

Also pretty heavy: Conan

[@tomthebomb123]

That Acid Rain pedal does get you close to the sound. Ethan of Primitive Man told me that he just uses amp distortion with no pedals boosting it. He puts his modulation and delay pedals straight into the front of the amps. I know he was using an Orange Thunderverb and a Mesa Boogie Dual Rec in the early days of Primitive Man but I think he's now using Dean Costello Amps

[@DoesItDoom]

Interesting. Cool info!

[@Intaminator]

Yeah, he uses a DCA HMW.

[@metalfan7270]

When I saw them they were running full sunn 0))) stacks and dunable guitars lol

[@blxcktongue]

​@@metalfan7270 literally, and an orange cab, I was so high lmaoo

[@davemahan1993]

I’m so glad Primitive Man made it up to Vermont this summer. Easily the best show that came to town this year.

[@DoesItDoom]

Nice!

[@elmershiflett8154]

Crowbar, primitive man, and bodybox in Richmond VA in 2 days, I'm stoked 🤘🤘

[@DoesItDoom]

Tonight in Columbia, SC!

[@chugcity7940]

I’m just here cause I love watching Steve Doom but now I gotta new band to listen to. Thanks!

[@DoesItDoom]

Enjoy!

[@gstrfst]

You should do a Khanate lesson one day! It'll probably be hard with all the silence between riffs, but a cool challenge!

[@TheCallingInSilence]

One of the best bands around

[@garrettboomerbender]

I love Primitive Man! Still need to see them live. I saw Vermin Womb which is Ethan's grind band with Full Of Hell, Blood Incantation, Mortous, and God Is War.

[@DoesItDoom]

Nice!

[@alldead315]

Would you consider doing a gear tour? You have the perfect stuff, would love an all in one video.

[@DoesItDoom]

Yeah man, could be cool.

[@maxnorton4893]

Primitive Man will rattle your fillings out live. Definitely check out a Lifer pedal from Fowl Sounds sometime, Steve!

[@RedMartianBlues]

Wild, love this one! Killer video. I managed to catch Primitive Man in Toronto over the summer and my ears are still recovering from the awesomeness. Love their heaviness and how they are able to smartly add in some harsh noise elements. Thanks for posting this!

[@DoesItDoom]

Glad you enjoyed it, Craig!

[@Jjosh1358]

When I saw "Death Sludge" in the title I immediately thought of Rippikoulu.. Brutal tones by the way. I like your channel because it helps me discover awesome groups in the doom/sludge/stoner genres that I haven't heard of.

[@DemonicTears_Private]

If you like Rippikoulu (them Playing Old School Death Metal) and you are into "Death Sludge" you really need do check out Gateway-Shores of Daruk for example. (Because he is hard to find without the Song Title) ah...! Just look at my Playlists. He plays Medieval Doom Death btw....

[@_-Unity-_]

Sure does sound gnarly. Going to check out some Primitive Man now. Never liatened to them before. Cheers Steve!

[@DoesItDoom]

So heavy. Enjoy!

[@MrZeroTerrorRide]

Heavy and dark!

[@mrmaldoon8362]

Been a year. What do you think?

[@icanrawrtooMC]

you had to add that last, "and i did get it to intonate" at the end lmao

[@DoesItDoom]

Originally I was trying to set this thing up in G-Std and couldn’t get it, so I went to G# instead. Happy where it ended up though.

[@icanrawrtooMC]

@@DoesItDoom I feel you. Just ordered a brand new bass for the stu lol

[@mistershabadoo]

Sounds terrifying! I love it! Cheers!

[@DoesItDoom]

It does!

[@Intaminator]

Oh man, didn't expect this one to drop. Sick! On a sidenote, Primitive Man was probably the loudest, heaviest band I've ever seen live , aside Sunn. Just absolutely insane shit. Also cool to see you tackle tremolo picking. I've been trying to get better at it myself for a time now and I'm slowly making progress. I've become rather fond of Dunlop Flow Picks (the 1.5mm one in particular), or the Dava Delrin Grip Picks for trem picking and general playing. I feel like you're generally better off with a Jazz style pick at any rate.

[@DoesItDoom]

Awesome man. Was a fun lesson to put together. Glad you enjoyed it. It has promoted me to work more on tremolo picking as well.

[@michaeldoerksen2841]

Motorhead still is the loudest for me. I've seen Primitive Man twice now and put them at 4th loudest for me. Weedeater is the 2nd and YOB is 3rd. I will say that the venue plays a huge part in a band being loud though when people bring this topic up

[@1I1I1I1I3]

Thanks for doing this one. Big Primitive Man fan. Would appreciate a lesson on their song Victim. That’s definitely my favorite of theirs

[@DoesItDoom]

Will ad it to the list man. Glad you enjoyed this one.

[@djanepupi]

so funny to see how you and the fuzzlord guy grew out their hair over the years, happy 4 u

[@elmershiflett8154]

Hey Steve, I just seen these guys with bodybox and crowbar last month in Richmond VA, killer show, my chest is still vibrating 🤘

[@DoesItDoom]

Awesome. Saw the same show a few days before or after in Columbia, SC. 🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@dragonX71]

My trem picking went way up once I used the Eric Johnson jazz 3s, ideal in every way. Bomb vid as always Steve, PM fucks live

[@DoesItDoom]

Will check out those picks. Thanks man!

[@JDavidFall]

Jazz III is definitely the way to go. When I play black metal stuff that’s what I use and it’s a lot of tremolo picking

[@jonluick]

My favorite picks for tremolo picking, and frankly everything are the Dunlop Ultex 2.0mm Jazz III. Very long lasting, good feel, perfect size for me. I've been using Jazz III size since the 90s. The best way I've found to get better at tremolo picking is to start with a metronome and get used to doing 16th notes at progressively faster tempos. Over time you'll build the muscles for it. I also try to remain as loose as possible too. If i tighten my wrist / forearm, it's energy wasted and I can't do those tremolo parts for as long as I want to. Just my 2 cents. And more primitive man videos please. I've seen them a handful of times now and they are loud, and quite the experience to behold.

[@Astaroth_Belial]

Ernie Ball 1.5mm prodigy picks are what I use for tremolo picking. I go for an angled approach for picking so that I get less resistance from the string.

[@Nick-zd7nk]

Speaking of low tuning, my SG is in C# standard with a set of 009s! An open E chord sounds like a bunch of wobbly springs 😁

[@johnsguitarmusicanddemos]

Definitely one of the heavier guitar tones I’ve heard. Awesome!

[@Sludgecrow]

I use Dunlop gator 2 mm most of the time when I'm playing a lot of tremolo picking, love the grip texture

[@julian5226]

Bought the judas after hearing this, awesome video man👍

[@DoesItDoom]

That thing rips! You’re gonna love it!

[@chasem.4330]

Those Jazz III picks are the only way to go, especially with tremolo picking on thicker strings

[@adamsnow8554]

Thanks for the lesson Steve, one of my fav primitive man tracks, excited to learn this! Would love to see a lesson for Commerce some day as well

[@DoesItDoom]

Sure thing man. Have fun learning it. Will add that to the list.

[@aaronwall4830]

So fucking rad!! Keep killin homie!! Mad love and respect always!! ALL HAIL!!! 🐐🔥🐐

[@DoesItDoom]

Thanks brother!

[@SlowlyYouRot]

Hell yeah! Somehow managed to overlook these guys! So heavy! Love it. Been leaning towards a combination of sludge and death metal in my riffing lately so this is an awesome discovery. Thanks! Might need even more gain though!

[@dustincleary8161]

Steve! Great video man. I love, love, fucking love seeing you giving lessons on the is super extreme content. Myself, with regards to tremolo picking-I use a Jazz III and try to ground myself somewhere on the guitar and focus on the wrist because my arm tires out fast otherwise! Lol!

[@DoesItDoom]

Glad you liked the lesson, man. Was really fun to explore. What thickness do you use on the Jazz III?

[@dustincleary8161]

I’m not sure-I will look when I get home, I know they’re rigid as hell though! You know what was kind of cool, I found this pick, I know ‘special designer picks’ can seem a little gimmicky, but they’re called ‘attak picks’. Spendy, I got a sampler pack of them to try, they have an incredible grip depression with raised dots inside it that keeps it grounded while I tremolo pick. I should dig up the link-I found them on IG a while ago and gave it a shot. Cool pick

[@lauriecarter8931]

Wow heavy tone love it mean gauge strings sound pristine cheers man.

[@DoesItDoom]

🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@danielcarter3928]

the dunlop tortex flows are a good all around pick for me that can also tremolo pick well

[@procyonia3654]

Hell yeh brother, fantastic video

[@DoesItDoom]

Glad you liked it man!

[@3bandEQ]

Yo! Sick vid as always. I’ve been in a Surf band for a couple years and got a pretty good technique going on for tremolo picking. Letting your wrist do all the work is the key. To get my forearm involved the least as possible I play my guitar slung HELLA low. Got this idea from CJ Ramone who talked about tremolo picking on Ramones songs. For picks, I love the Dunlop flow standard. I like them heavy. With the pick perpendicular to the pickguard. Easy money! Lol.

[@DoesItDoom]

Good info man! Thanks.

[@devinftf]

I use Cool brand Cat Tongue picks. 1.0 mm. The baby blue colored ones. I used to use the 1.3 mm but I switched because it was easier to tremolo pick with the 1.0 and they are more versatile across genres. Without question my favorite pick I’ve ever used in 25 years of playing guitar

[@benny2899]

man if you teach us sugar hole, i will love you forever dude. primitive man rules

[@DoesItDoom]

Made a note. Could happen!

[@tedbizon3]

Amazing demo!

[@DoesItDoom]

Thanks Ted. Hats off to you guys on The Judas. That thing fucken rips.

[@mikeg6666]

Brutal!🤘

[@DoesItDoom]

🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@sebastiangrzelak1708]

About the picks. Try the Jim Root Dunlop pick. Great nylon texture, nice grip with Jim's number in Slipknot. Great pick, I like it for faster parts in my songs

[@XlouietheflyX]

Ataraxie sometimes use root m6 dyads too

[@branecollision]

Fuckin love Primitive Man. Would love to see a lesson for Victim as well.

[@DoesItDoom]

Noted! Could happen.

[@VitrificationOfBlood]

I second this!

[@BabylonSun]

Killer lesson!!!!

[@DoesItDoom]

Thanks dude!

[@loganknowles5486]

This is crushing

[@DoesItDoom]

🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@rob9340]

I wondered why my herd of Elephants was acting so funny. Now I know. Phanks Rob the elephant.

[@ernestoperez4973]

Sludge/Death/Doom/Crust/Drone And Dissonant Metal. Primitive Man Is Very Heavy

[@kazukihiratani]

That opening riff sounds so disgusting and filthy! I love it! It's like a mix of slam and black metal! Brutal as all hell!

[@DoesItDoom]

So good!

[@89design9]

I hold the pick with my thumb index and middle finger while positioning the pick at an angle.

[@SamLibman]

Fucking love this band!

[@DoesItDoom]

Brutally heavy.

[@countjulu]

I like playing black metal so I tremolo pick a lot, my pick of choice is the Shiv by Winspear

[@ashtralplane777]

Oh yeah, this band is gnarly.

[@nonewguy352]

With how low you tune for some of these songs, have you ever considered using a baritone guitar? Love the vids btw

[@DoesItDoom]

I have a 7-string baritone LTD Viper, but don’t think it’s really a necessity for most of what I play.

[@koooniiin]

Hey, I'm sure it is part of the sound of the genre but I must say to me it sounds like even with these thick strings it's a struggle to not sound out of tune. This is balancing a fine line of where a tone just becomes noise.

[@DoesItDoom]

The dissonant chords and chaotic nature is part of the sound. It’s all by design for sure. Ethan had other noise projects as well.

[@koooniiin]

@@DoesItDoom Fair enough. I've just listened to Primitive Man (The Lifer) for the first time ever because of you and man.... the only way I can describe their sound is "like being buried under a ton of bricks". So thick and heavy. Thanks for introducing me to that :p

[@the86angels]

Heaviest band I've ever seen live

[@DoesItDoom]

I bet so.

[@coreychmay3344]

This video brought me to primitive man. I'm so damn greatfull I watched it a year ago. As for tremolo picking, I use basically the same thing only I prefer blackfangs. Not a fan of the grip ridges myself.

[@asecretturning]

Riffs so heavy the drums are self arising 💀

[@hg1651]

I have worked in and around these genres for the better part of 11 years. I have seen hundreds of bands over the years. I can always find something I enjoy about a band’s work. However PM, while sonically fascinating, I don’t enjoy the bands music. It’s not that I think the band is bad or untalented, its truly the first time a band in these genres that didn’t do it for me. For once I actually didn’t get it.

[@ZakkiLowe]

I love Primitive Man so much. Great video.

[@DoesItDoom]

Thanks man. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@premsitphuranaphan6762]

Finally 🖤

[@DoesItDoom]

🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@januszjankes6423]

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[@DoesItDoom]

Thanks Brother!

[@hufinnegan2611]

Awesome stuff! Curious how are you able to figure out how to play songs this dissonant and distorted?

[@DoesItDoom]

Lots of time spent watching loads of live concert footage here on KZbin lol. This one was tricky, but I think we got it close. Ethan from PM was kind enough to look over the TAB as well.

[@hufinnegan2611]

@@DoesItDoom Thanks the effort man! Always wondering how he got this brutal sound

[@ElectraOmega]

S~A~V~A~G~E!!!! ☠🔥🎶🎸🤘💀🤘🎸🎶🔥☠

[@MediaBoy13]

my favourite tuning lol

[@VVarlock_]

could you do a whole video on the judas pedal?

[@afraid_athlete]

Can anyone recommend a machine head that would fit the low string?

[@bastienlacote5651]

Is that a guitar sound or an airplane landing ?

[@DoesItDoom]

✈️✈️✈️

[@elusivecure57]

Do you have any reccomendation on string gauges for 7 string guitars and 5 string basses in that tuning?

[@gibson2623]

🤘

[@stevenplayford50]

Heaviest band in the world IMO.

[@DoesItDoom]

Many would agree.

[@Chaosinferno825]

I do a lot of blackened sludge stuff and use the Petrucci jazz IIIs, they're just great.

[@DoesItDoom]

I like those picks as well. Need to revisit them.

[@deathmetalmadness4642]

You heard Devils Witches - Velvet Magic album? It's totally different from this but cool as fuck

[@khoffman2725]

Amazing lesson. The instructor has a great ear. I simply can't hear the intervals in this style of music.

[@DoesItDoom]

Lots of live video reference footage was watched! Haha. Not easy.

[@arkie74]

fucking killer!!!!

[@DoesItDoom]

Thanks! Crushing tune.

[@arkie74]

@@DoesItDoom I played bass for 25 years before picking up the guitar. my fingers are so strong from playing bass that I keep reminding myself that when Im tuned that low you cant beat on it like you can on bass! lol

[@sciexp]

Hey, thanks for sharing this... So, how do you do with the nut for the thick strings?

[@DoesItDoom]

Have to file the nut slots and bridge saddles to properly accommodate the strings. Have to bore out the 6th string tuning machine in some cases as well.

[@denefimenko455]

Have a good day , tell me please is it possible to make similar effects in a programme Guitar Rig 5 ? can you make a video on this topic? Thanks and greetings from Russia !

[@DoesItDoom]

Hey Den, I’m not really familiar with Guitar Rig, so I can’t speak to it unfortunately.

[@denefimenko455]

@@DoesItDoom Ок I understand thank you

[@timetraveler8777]

👹👹🤘🤘

[@paintitmatt]

tremolo pick with your *wrist* and you'll have a lot more success (and speed)

[@DoesItDoom]

My 2023 New Year’s resolution lol.

[@bradmettler4566]

Hello my friends, Im lookong for tabs for 'Down - Open Coffins' or a lesson video. Thanks

[@tite93]

Hardest thing about this track is getting your guitar tuned down, lol

[@DoesItDoom]

Haha!!

[@gladys8080]

Hi ! I'd like to use that kind of low tuning (Drop G or G#) but should I stick to a regular scale length guitar or should I go for a Baryton guitar in your opinion ? Cheers !

[@DoesItDoom]

24.75” will be hard to intonate at or below G#. 25.5” will do fine at Drop G. Baritone will give you more tension without any intonation issues, they also tend to have a tighter low end / more clarity. Just depends what you’re after.

[@gladys8080]

@@DoesItDoom Thank you for your piece of advice !

[@myguitardidyermom212]

Tuned to negative Q

[@mitchellferre1652]

First Act guitar looks nice, aren't they cheap made in China?

[@DoesItDoom]

This is one of their Custom Shop DC-6 models that were built by their small custom shop that used to exist in Boston. Same style of guitar that was built for Matt Pike, Bill Kelliher, Brent Hinds etc during that era.

[@JDavidFall]

Haha not this one. Probably $6000+.

[@delvo76]

Within 24 seconds I was bored rigid!

[@declankonesky38]

🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹

[@scribeofsolace]

primitive man created their own sub genre lol "impending doom"

[@billb.4420]

Excellent guide as always man, if I can offer one piece of advice it's to just turn up the guitar a bit compared to your voice for these super downtuned tracks.

[@DavidCalderetti-os5tz]

At some point, let the Bass be bass. The style really jumped the shark

[@duhlike]

Real men don't need to downtune to play hard

[@gulagwithahumanface4471]

Do iron monkey next

[@joedoomsdaypio4374]

Fuck. No other words.

[@DoesItDoom]

🤘🏻🤘🏻