How to play Monopoly Socialism

[@pilum3705]

„Put the stickers on the dice“ I hate this game already without seeing or owning it.

[@Sonicbro-xx6sg]

Yeah. That's like the only thing I don't like about this game.

[@claromale]

Fainéant va

[@Jay-nh6um]

You don't need to do that, just label 1 and 2 as +1 and +2, respectively, and 6 as 2x

[@shawnroy7806]

@@claromale brrrrr

[@Bry10022]

Who here hates putting stickers on dice?

[@rngesus7783]

when the player gets 1848 dollars at start, its a reference to when karl marx's book "the communist manifesto" was written

[@Coaster42]

Which doesn't make any sense because this game is about socialism

[@yami_k5405]

@@Coaster42 Probably just a reference to the disturbingly large amount of people who think being a socialist and a communist are the same thing

[@emmalopez5333]

@@yami_k5405 socialism is an umbrella term though

[@teejayburger2136]

@@yami_k5405 Actually, Marx used the terms socialism and communism interchangeably. The different definitions are usually attributed to Lenin

[@polishraspberries]

@Fremen Well by exact definition, the USSR was socialist, not communist, communism is only when there's no state, no currency, no classes and there's a social ownership of the means of productions yet SOCIALISM is only when there's a social ownership of the means of productions, the end. The social ownership means the society owns the means of productions as a whole, which can mean it's the people or the state.

[@jackalenterprisesofohio]

That sounds complicated..... When are we getting Monopoly: Feudalism Edition?

[@cottoneyejoe8285]

Houses are now serfs

[@gallowglass3764]

That sounds fun!

[@kamilgregor]

The feudalism edition: all players get a fixed amount of money per one property card every game round. In their turn, a player can declare war on another player to take a property card from them. Both players secretly spend money to muster armies and the player who spent more wins the war. Other players can join either side. The player with the most property cards after a fixed number of rounds wins the game.

[@Sonicbro-xx6sg]

@@kamilgregor I actually want to see that as a game. Along with many other kinds of government systems.

[@GynxShinx]

That's called Monopoly.

[@ToxicAtom]

Monopoly, a game developed by socialists to mock capitalism, now has a variant developed by capitalists to mock socialism. Thank you hasbro very cool.

[@CoolJoshido212]

truthful

[@hopefulmayhem5744]

It was georgist not a socialist.

[@ToxicAtom]

@@hopefulmayhem5744 shhhh is a joke

[@hopefulmayhem5744]

@@ToxicAtom jokes only work if they have some truth.

[@TheFlamorium]

@@hopefulmayhem5744 jokes only work if you don't overanalyze them

[@ShelbyAQD]

I never knew there were Monopoly variants that actually changed the rules up. This seems rather interesting, and I gotta say that I like the community fund feature, as well as giving the trains some extra utility.

[@antikommunistischaktion]

There's a lot, actually. I like the one with the speed die.

[@Lightmagician60]

the community fund is fun... until 1 person decides to play like that's their money. at which point, all other players have to funnel money into it to prevent a loss, which in turn just gives that 1 player money

[@ibraheemshuaib8954]

@@Lightmagician60 or just have everyone intentionally lose to teach em a lesson

[@johnx140]

Me neither lol

[@theAstarrr]

Fortnite Monopoly makes the most changes id say. Completely reworking the money system for health, run out of health you die, you get chances to shoot others to remove their health, it's pretty cool

[@MaladyKayjo]

Ironic that the original version of monopoly was a clone of the game landlords which is a satire and critique of capitalism, meanwhile monopoly socialism was a edit made by capitalist to mock socialism

[@emmalopez5333]

tbf i would much rather be in this monopoly world than the capitalist one

[@Bean_Soup]

that's not irony

[@Bean_Soup]

@@emmalopez5333 tell that to anyone who's lived in a society that tried this Monopoly's world lol

[@hauntaholic0]

@@Bean_Soup it is irony

[@desroth]

The amazing thing is that Socialism is just as flawed as unchecked Capitalism. Shifting ownership of the means of production and resources from private hands to the government kicks the can down the road a bit. The only difference is a company can fail and that is fine, competition will sprout up with new businesses to fill the void. A government fails, and, well, that is far more catastrophic.

[@danielleanderson6371]

I love games where there’s a chance for everyone to lose. Cthulhu Dice is another game with this feature that comes to mind. It gives losing players something fun to do by making villainous choices and turns their loss into everybody’s loss, which feels like a win when you were going to lose anyway.

[@CanI...]

Danielle, if you like games where everyone always loses, vote for a Democrat in the elections.

[@danielleanderson6371]

@@CanI... What do you call it when everyone is dissatisfied with a transaction? A compromise! Better that everyone lose a little than 99.9% of people lose way harder while the remaining 0.1% acquires and hoards more resources than they could ever dream of using within their lifetime.

[@CanI...]

​@@danielleanderson6371 99.9% of the population losing way harder while the remaining 0.1% acquire and hoards more resources than they could ever dream of using within their lifetime is describing perfectly every socialist/communist nation.

[@CanI...]

Btw, a compromise is when everyone is satisfied with a transaction, arbeit not fully. For example, if you want to sell something and I want to buy it, we will only have a transaction if we both are satisfied with it. If we batter, you might compromise and sell a bit cheaper than you want and I may compromise and pay a bit more than I want, but in the end, if any one of us are not satisfied, we won't have a transaction in any free society.

[@danielleanderson6371]

@@CanI... I'm not going to argue politics on a video about board games. I've already made my snappy comeback, and now I'm going to move on, as should you. We can both leave thinking we're the right one and that we totally owned the other person without wasting more than five minutes of our day on a completely ineffective KZbin comment war; how's *that* for a compromise?

[@tompegorinno5141]

I enjoyed playing this game. Mainly there is that one player who is purposely sabotaging the game xD

[@retrowave69]

huh, just like real life.

[@antongrigoryev6381]

Yup. That's why socialism will never work. There are always people who would ruin it.

[@orangenostril]

@@antongrigoryev6381 The difference is capitalism rewards the people who exploit it

[@antongrigoryev6381]

@@orangenostril Nah. It's by design that Capitalism rewards people who find a way in it and no one else. Rewarding for "exploits", as if something you weren't supposed to do, is exactly what Socialism does. It's a great idea in theory, but it has so many holes for "exploits", and there are so many people who would want to use them, so it just doesn't work.

[@AOGood]

Ya know... That could be a house rule: Determine a player to be the "Saboteur", they win if any of the regular lose conditions are met Maybe, I dunno lol

[@PatriPastry]

I can see this being a fun coop game that’s a bit closer to the ideals of socialism with one really minor rule change… instead of “the person who puts down all their contribution points first wins,” the game is instead “when everyone puts their contribution points down the group wins.” Would be more interesting, although might be an easier game if everyone communicates. Hmm… I wonder what that is saying…

[@bigboykenob2244]

That is a good idea.

[@takeyourdamnmeds]

the last person to place their contribution chips down wins (free money)

[@iBloodxHunter]

Cool idea but that's not how it works, ever heard the phrase "some are more equal than others."

[@Bluedragon-iz3oo]

Sounds like a good idea in theory, but probably not in practice. The game can be easily won by placing all the money in the comunity chest, auctioning off all the project at the lowest price, and paying for other player. Also it is not realistic as It ignores the human nature of wanting to “win” against each other. If humans are capable of working together without harming another human, we would of done it by now. I like how the game is because it shows that being greedy may help you win, but it risk causing problems for everyone.

[@epicfella9085]

c o m m i e

[@cousinpatsey2471]

Despite not actually showing how socialism works in a practical way, they did kind of point out that socialism does work if the players are cooperating and trying to win, but fails when you have someone go out of their way to sabotage it.

[@KopperNeoman]

But then showcases the reality of socialism because there can only be ONE winner, Dear Leader. Remove that rule, and you're not playing Monopoly Socialism, you're playing Monopoly Democracy - and laying the foundations for some nice poor-enriching capitalism.

[@cousinpatsey2471]

@@KopperNeoman the one winner rule is the one thing that sticks out, but it doesn't make any sense with the theme. At that point, with everything developed, and the community healthy, having everyone else lose makes little sense. Also, yeah, poor enriching monopoly, where no one wins literally until everyone else is bankrupt.

[@breaddboy]

@@cousinpatsey2471 maybe if everyone had the option to invest in their developments at the beginning of each turn everyone could gain 10 developments and win together 🤔

[@cousinpatsey2471]

@@breaddboy it still doesn't make sense though. How does someone else improving a community project make the community lose? If anything, the win condition should be when everyone has collectively developed the board (or at least, as much as they can manage). Having a single winner doesn't make a lot of sense for a "socialist" board game.

[@1ProAssassin]

@@cousinpatsey2471 But that's how things tend to turn out in our world. Ppl talk as if greed and corruption would be solved somehow if we just do X, Y or Z. Some1 is "winning" in the end and it's probably not going to be you and if it is you some1 will have lost out.

[@stomodino5443]

The problem is that the game is still about winning and about competing with others. You should be able to win as a team.

[@sissyphussartre2907]

It's so funny how socialists don't understand human nature, even after decades of failures

[@jacobfaro9571]

Then play break the safe instead.

[@fieldrequired283]

You decide for yourself what victory is. If you think working together to get all the projects properly developed is success, no rule listed in the game book can take that from you.

[@Natalietrans]

That would make sense if it was meant to be about socialism in the real sense

[@Maxime_K-G]

I think that by not losing you already kind of win as a team.

[@Purple2Pi]

Despite how mean-spirited it is in it’s mockery of socialism, this actually seems like it would be more fun than regular monopoly.

[@regulate.artificer_g23.mdctlsk]

@@thotslayer9914 still socialism, though...

[@ballsacsincorp]

cant wait for monopoly socialism junior teaches cooperation

[@LaMadriguera]

Like, i Will not Even try to win this Game, it seems just fun enought to try to help the Development of the projects.

[@ricardohumildebrabo]

@@LaMadriguera Fr Looks like the kind of game everyone would be happy if someone wins.

[@combativeThinker]

You can’t be mean-spirited to a socialist. They’re not human.

[@Qrafter]

My one complaint is that I’m certain actual socialists would not care about using plastic straws. That feels more like Monopoly: Making Fun Of Liberals Edition

[@aliensinnoh1]

The amount of single-use plastics out in the world is a real problem, but replacing plastic straws is a complete red herring. The bigger issue is in packaging, whereas plastics straws are really the best possible option. It’s just something companies can do for cheap to make themselves look socially conscious.

[@thealbinotadpole2878]

Liberals and leftist are completely different

[@dannypipewrench533]

Well, I think that is all why we are here anyway. We all like making fun of Liberals.

[@oofy_emma1072]

@@dannypipewrench533 I'm here to make fun of people making fun of the liberals for thinking they're communists. I'm 4 parallel universes ahead of y'all peasants

[@thealbinotadpole2878]

@@dannypipewrench533 liberals are right wing libertarians

[@xXBIueStarXx]

My brain hurts, its a game were you NEED to play together to not loose but in the same time you need to win and let the others loose. This game has so much potential for betray and cheating others. Its almost Mario Party in a socialism board game.

[@GynxShinx]

I'm not seeing a whole lot of economic democracy but I guess it's closer to it than the original monopoly.

[@CrossxFir3]

Monopoly was made to be a parody showing how rediculous capitalism. Ironically, it wasn't made to be fun, it was made to show you how unfair it can be when you just get unlucky with the dice.

[@merlintym1928]

@@CrossxFir3 No it wasn't lol

[@OGEdger]

@@merlintym1928 In the original version, before being bought by Hasbro, it was.

[@merlintym1928]

@@OGEdger The Landlords game and monopoly were played on a similar board, with different rules. Which makes them different games. Like chess and checkers.

[@dubber1416]

@@CrossxFir3 capitalism isn't reliant on luck

[@goatgamer001]

The dice are 2 1x1 rubiks cubes The normal die is stickerles the other is sticker cube

[@Excalibaard]

Finally a cube I can solve.

[@jomarcentermjm]

0:40 hasbro been cheap on the dice

[@forsaken_by_god]

Imagine making socialist monopoly and not calling "Jail" "Gulag"

[@OysterCupcake]

That's Communism

[@agr_]

@@OysterCupcake “The goal of socialism is communism” Vladimir Lenin

[@OysterCupcake]

@@agr_ "collaborator Friedrich Engels, Marx published The Communist Manifesto in 1848, which included a chapter criticizing those earlier socialist models as utterly unrealistic “utopian” dreams."

[@agr_]

@@OysterCupcake you forgot the part where Marx was a jobless hobo who never had a job throughout his life

[@OysterCupcake]

@@agr_ "Due to his political publications, Marx became stateless and lived in exile with his wife and children in London" First, being a writer is a career. Second, Marx really gonna look for work if he's in exile?

[@isylvia]

"no tip vegan restaurant" this game deadass made by a 50 year old lmaoo

[@1sdani]

I'd eat there

[@Ducktor]

Its a meme game don't overthink it.

[@xFreSh999_]

Learn to take a joke

[@Anticlimaxers]

@@xFreSh999_ you're responding to a literal joke

[@cartanfan-youtube]

@@xFreSh999_ the irony of this is way to dank

[@anthonyher1953]

You can easily make everyone lose the game if a project goes to auction. Just simply bid $9999 (or the sum of your own money + the community fund) and boom, everyone loses. Or, as some other comments have pointed out, ride the train and go on 80 laps until the community fund runs out lol

[@pachho808]

That $1848 symbolism is hilarious

[@christopherreoch9627]

This sounds like a fun team building activity. I actually wanna try this

[@shubashuba9209]

This isn't really Monopoly Socialism. Real Monopoly Socialism has never been tried before.

[@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja]

We and my pals made a game similar to this in our Russian class. Instead of money, we used potatoes.

[@seanordonez9208]

communist monopoly

[@Redman_real]

@@seanordonez9208_Survivalist monopoly_

[@vedmahakal3885]

“Place $1848 in the community funds” *me realizing that number has more than one meaning*

[@adjacent_dollar]

Ah yes, a game made by capitalists based on a game from socialists to mock capitalism, mocking socialism *_Ironic_*

[@Name-ps9fx]

I've played Advanced Squad Leader before, and it's rulebook comes (literally) in a 3-ring binder... And it was less confusing than this 7 minute ramble of "contributions" and "projects."

[@thenerdycousins9099]

I just got myself confused trying to figure out how socialists could have a monopoly, and I still don’t get it

[@revimfadli4666]

State monopoly?

[@ulitharid8907]

@@revimfadli4666 That'd be closer to Communism than Socialism

[@memeworksanimations2689]

@@revimfadli4666 that’s state capitalism but sometimes that’s used synonymously with socialism

[@MrAWESOMUS]

This game is obviously more focused on "owning the libs" than on making the game mechanics reflect what socialism actually is.

[@Karl_der_Genosse]

@@MrAWESOMUS What I find really confusing: There seem to be some cards and mechanics that, to me, a German that lives in a healthy social-democratic system, seem very reasonable and not at all wrong. For example, there is a card reading "the school needs new computers, better pay up! You have no kids? Then tough luck!". This is obviously intended to outrage the players, but in reality, this is basically our digitalization-package (a government program enacted last year to help schools during at-home-schooling in Corona) which only saw criticism because *people thought too little money was allocated to the project.* Also, the project mechanic seems to be REALLY nice for representing local, communal socialism on a city or village level. Everyone contributes to it, there is just one player that manages it. This is how local projects could very well work under socialism. I only take some offense to some VERY offensive cards ("You seem to be too well off. That's not socialism, got to JAIL") and the fact that the community fund is open to everyone without a vote (making the game more anarchist than socialist). But besides that, it seems to be great! I will definetly buy it for my next party meeting!

[@ZPokemonfanA]

"If you land on Go To Jail, then you immediately go to jail."

[@user-hy2ry3if8h]

This is purely brilliant. The closest represnation of socialism I have seen.

[@justamrcreeper6467]

Bruh

[@nexinex6049]

except that theres not a way for multiple players to win

[@arttukettunen5757]

Still somewhat off and partly makes fun of socialism as same or close to stereotypical communism (which it definitely isn't), although in other ways, it represents socialism corrextly. The ideas are a bit clashing

[@rrteppo]

@@arttukettunen5757 og Monopoly is making fun of capitalism. And honestly Americans call everything socialism, including capitalism. (Trust me I have seen people make the argument that buying a house is socialism.)

[@ukkisragee9983]

@@rrteppo it's socialism if you get some of the money from the community then In that cercumstance it is socialist to buy a house

[@christopherearth9714]

Never knew that this existed. Nice.

[@Ghiaman1334]

5:43 So you're telling me the game developed by capitalists to mock socialists, based on a game invented by socialists to mock capitalists, keeps the critique of the capitalist attitude to jail by still allowing you to earn money and profit from your possessions while in prison and you bribing your way to a shorter sentence?

[@aeldariambitions6334]

I know, right? At the very least it would have been funnier, if not more accurate, to have "Jail" be "gulag" and be an instant-death button for the player. Not very fun, but neither is pissing off the Supreme Leader under a real regime eh? It would have played to the satirical nature better than just leaving the old rule as it is, especially when you compare it to the tongue-in-cheek property names like "Vegan Milkshake Shop".

[@risingstar09]

Monopoly, which was once a free for all battle, is now a game to work together; I'd really love to try it!

[@lexcoupe82]

This is the best thing I have ever seen. Is this a comedy channel?

[@towelietowel4513]

“Everyone loses the game” LOL

[@tacoclaus8168]

Screw the idea that I have to pay to get someone else out of jail

[@StephenMoreira]

So pretty much the same as regular monopoly, too many rules, lasts forever, will probably always be played wrong.

[@MattTheSpratt]

Yeah, I beat Elizabeth Maggie's feeling rather warm and fuzzy about this version of The Landlords' game, isn't she?

[@joshuaweston4489]

Yes, but where is Monopoly dictatorship? Ya know, the one where nobody wins and the players attempt to undermine the ruling authority in an effort to be the last person to lose...

[@BrotherVoidBomber]

Isnt that how most monopoly games go? 3v1 with dark deals for bed rock as long as Mr highroller dies a miserable death?

[@arsonist___]

wait, so do all players not start off with any money?

[@MindOfGenius]

so it's really easy to bankrupt the community funds...and only one of you "wins". So, how will Socialism [Monopoly] work with greedy players?

[@sunjian9818]

@@MindOfGenius That's the point, Socialism like communism is flawed by human greed, this game is used to illustrate that.

[@SpadeWolfo]

@@sunjian9818that's also the point of base monopoly. It was made by socialists to demonstrate how bad capitalism is. Yknow that state where you have no money and are struggling to survive unless another player helps? Yea that's the point of the game.

[@sunjian9818]

@@SpadeWolfo So both monopolies confirm that Capitalism, Socialism, and Communism doesn't work well.

[@teh_vasraf2445]

@@sunjian9818 Not precisely. In a communist as described by Marx, there really is no issue of human greed. Go ahead and be greedy. Human greed is a problem when somebody enforces your property. But the point is that there is no property, and no police to defend it. This game is a little confused. Half the time it mocks socialism as the straw man a right winger may explain it (silly small scale projects by the community without actually doing anything) but also tries to be "accurate" to socialism with community funds and "helping one another" whatever that may mean. A Marxist would tell you that it's inaccurate just because it has a jail.

[@Wilzyy]

You can roleplay as a capitalist in this game by bringing a baseball bat to the game and smashing the board on your turn. this ends the game instantly.

[@1sdani]

Or stealing the bank's money before it begins and paying off players to try to make everyone lose.

[@KopperNeoman]

That's just normal socialism. Roleplaying a capitalist would result in a game of Stratego - if you win, everyone plays Boom Street. If you lose, everyone loses.

[@snowdevil002]

Then you play a round of regular monopoly until the next election happens and everybody decides to go back to playing monopoly socialism. Repeat until you start playing monopoly fascism

[@1sdani]

@Roniixx Tell that to 20th Century American Imperialism.

[@legendgames128]

A variant of this game that I came up with: Rolling 2x on the action die counts as a double. Every turn, add the total of the dice onto the community funds. If you go to the gulag (Jail), then you don't collect $50, but you still have to contribute to the community funds and everyone else collects $50 and contributes to the community funds as well. If you pass GO with the community shuttle, then all players collect $50 and contribute to the community funds. If you land on Free Parking, then each player collects $5 from the community fund. You may not receive money for other players developing your projects while in the gulag. That money goes to the bank instead. You can get out of the gulag by rolling doubles with both dice, as well as paying $50 or a Get out of the gulag free card. When every player places all their contribution chips, then every player wins! There is no individual winning.

[@addisonfung5009]

My Variation: The Maximum Auction Value is twice the Project's Listed Price. Example: if a Project's listed Price is $100 anyone who bids $200 immediately ends the auction, and that player will buy the project. This is what I call, "Buyout".

[@legendgames128]

@@addisonfung5009 Nice.

[@TimmacTR]

You forgot the part with crumbling economies and food stamp queues

[@puzzLEGO]

This just shows that neither capitalism nor socialism works perfectly

[@billyworkmna]

Now they need communist monopoly and trade economy monopoly.

[@zachyper]

This is actually a very interesting way to play

[@Tippex_Official]

As a monopoly variety, I don’t mind it, outside of the fact the entire thing is just a massive excuse to make the same shitty jokes a lot better comedians have made and still failed with.

[@GThermic]

What’s stopping you from spending all your money and just taking it from the community fun where everyone can help you develop

[@accuratebalance5097]

Duh, future promise of getting the same help, which would be screwed if you break the system and then fall back to poverty.

[@thatfamiiiarnight3665]

Monopoly socialism is actually anti-socialist

[@Ms.kitsune42]

Just like normal monopoly is to capitalism

[@jmurray1110]

That’s because this is a parody by a scout it’s company that doesn’t under socialism

[@thatfamiiiarnight3665]

@@jmurray1110 what?

[@jmurray1110]

@@thatfamiiiarnight3665 No idea what I meant to put but idiot or propagandist could work

[@JuanRanklin]

Just like all socialist examples to you guys lol. It conveniently never is socialism even when followed by the textbook definition 🤷‍♀️

[@Jim-pq9pm]

"If you don't have enough for the auction, it comes out of the community fund" I LOLd so hard. The game is BROKEN!

[@peytoncook1207]

I literally thought this was satire, but if it were, they would use "gulag" instead of "jail"

[@Ayelis]

REAL capitalists put as little effort into their products as possible. That maximizes the "energy expended to profit ratio". But it also means everything produced under capitalism is utter crap. Case in point.

[@kennyalbano1922]

They should make a monopoly bureaucracy edition where more than half your money goes to the government and everyone loses. Have a nice day.

[@airkami]

I love that 99% of the rules don't matter because you can just end the game making everyone lose by spending all the community fund super early.

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

after Lenin died the general committee was led by 7 people and 6 of them were killed by Stalin.😂

[@quickeningheroes]

If you roll doubles a forth time after going to jail, you get "never existed," and you are kicked from the game

[@Fire-ed9zc]

Ah, the 1989 card.

[@ParaboZarty]

*1984 intensifies*

[@viktator4205]

This sounds not only convoluted, but I fail to see what form of socialism it is meant to emulate.

[@Ggdivhjkjl]

Can we use money from the community fund to purchase this game?

[@cubee4108]

Quick question, can players add or take from community fund outside the mentioned interactions in the video?

[@sid2112]

Sure, all they need is the gun token and they can take whatever they want.

[@aappaapp6627]

This looks like a lot of fun actually ! Interesting to try out

[@TopsideCrisis346]

Sick burn, Hasbro. This is why we like you. 😎

[@mynamesnotshanekid813]

What is socialism to you

[@roridev]

@@mynamesnotshanekid813 "when government does stuff." is their most certainly answer.

[@ryanmorrison3699]

A lot of lefties cried a thousand tears over this game when it first came out. Said it was an inaccurate depiction of socialism. I would have to agree because you can actually win in Monopoly:Socialism. In real-life socialism, you can’t!

[@Redman_real]

Only 1 person can win in real life socialism no one else

[@darkstrideisi3346]

I feel like this is making fun of socialism and also that it would be hilarious to intentionally screw over everyone

[@Trockenmatt]

It's actually kind of brilliant because it attempts to criticize socialism using a game that was developed by a socialist as a criticism of capitalism

[@sandshark2]

Although it doesn’t do very well just because it targets a very specific type of socialism that is, well, old for today’s standards. Where’s the tax? The Democratic workplaces?

[@bigboydancannon4325]

Socialism itself is the joke, hard to parody a parody

[@1sdani]

As a Engelsian, I find it both hilarious and a solid "baby's first socialism". 10/10 would build my own again

[@BoardGameMuseumer]

I like this version. I know people that don't, but it plays differently.

[@DimonKILL]

i thought that if you land on a jail space, then you are in jail, but you're actually just visiting

[@sapphirestarblazer6805]

Ah yes, my favorite game: _Monopoly: Socialism is when capitalism_

[@aI_do]

"if the community fund runs out of money before them, then every player loses", genius

[@ihavekalashnikovyoudomath9275]

Also known as: Monopoly: California Edition

[@basil7292]

California is so fucked because of Capitalism

[@pancakes8816]

@@basil7292 a blind man at a shooting range is more accurate than this statement lmfao. Other dude was right, shitty laws, shitty leaders, high taxes and constant bullshit is exactly why California is fucked.

[@ΓιάννηςΜεταξάς-ρ5φ]

@Fremen no one cares if they're leaving, we are turning every state blue and you can't stop it :)

[@kurotama_doublebread]

I think this is my favorite variant

[@Pseudo-g9e]

Haven’t watched the vid but guessing everyone starts with more money and a few properties 0:01

[@llxlliexfairy]

$1848?

[@osamaal-humaimidi1481]

It's a reference the wave of working class people revolutions across Europe in and after 1848

[@Ma-zj8lz]

@@osamaal-humaimidi1481 its cuz that was the year when the Communist Manifesto was published.

[@curtisbrown547]

You missed the rules on the violent pregame civil war, also the rules on how to print your own money if your in a pinch. It typically only makes things worse but still

[@noodlebakeellie8243]

Wow, ironic since monopoly was created by a woman where it critiqued and made fun of capatlism called “landlords”

[@carstenp.5428]

Didn’t the woman steal the idea from her friend who was a professor?

[@noodlebakeellie8243]

@@carstenp.5428 no

[@dubber1416]

The landlords game, not landlords. It did not make fun of capitalism, it critiqued it and "educated people on the 'flaws'" of capitalism"

[@noodlebakeellie8243]

@@dubber1416 well yeah, I probably should be stated that

[@radix4400]

Yeah. It didn't really make fun. It just illustrated how Capitalism works.

[@gooseharbinger4851]

My capitalist friends: socialism only works on paper Me: but how does it work on cardboard

[@Gacha-Man]

K now turn your new cardboard game into a business.

[@MisterVercetti]

See, if they wanted to make the game a true emulation of socialism, there needs to be one player who assumes the role of government. The government player has a different set of rules than the other players: 1. The government player does not use their own money; any transactions involving the government player use the bank. 2. The government player takes a turn after each non-government player finishes theirs (so it goes player 1, government, player 2, government, player 3, government, etc.). 3. Rules concerning unmanaged projects: a. When the government player lands on an unmanaged project, they place a government stake on the project - this is indicated by the government player turning the unowned project card sideways. The initial cost to manage that project then doubles. b. If a staked project goes to auction, the starting bid must be at least equal to that project's undoubled base price. If no player is willing or able to bid, the government takes over management of the project. At this point, no non-government players can contribute to the project unless it is later acquired by a non-government player through a trade with the government. c. If a non-government player lands on a project managed by the government, they must pay the government the amount they would normally collect from a fully managed project. This amount is still doubled as normal if the government manages both projects in a color set. 4. When the government player lands on a project managed by a non-government player, they take a varying amount of money from all contributing players per contribution token they have on that project, as well as a larger amount from the project manager. If any player is unable to pay the full amount, the difference is taken from the Community Fund, and the indebted player immediately goes to Jail. The amounts are as follows: - For brown and cyan projects: $10 per contribution token, $20 from project manager - For pink and orange projects: $20 per contribution token, $40 from project manager - For red and yellow projects: $30 per contribution token, $60 from project manager - For green and blue projects: $40 per contribution token, $80 from project manager 5. Rules concerning Go: a. The government player gets nothing when a non-government player passes Go. b. When the government player passes Go, they take $25 from each other player, as well as $25 per non-government player from the Community Fund. If a player is unable to pay their share, the difference is taken from the Community Fund, and the indebted player immediately goes to Jail. 6. Rules concerning Jail: a. If any circumstance arises in which the government player would be required to go to Jail, they instead pick another player to go there instead. If the circumstance is rolling doubles three times in a row, the government player is permitted to keep rolling after they have chosen a player to go to Jail in their stead. b. If a player attempts to leave jail by rolling a 6, fails after three turns, and between themselves and their fellow non-government players are unable to raise the $50 needed for the player to leave, the jailed player is executed, removing that player from the game. All contribution tokens on projects managed by that player are returned to their respective owners (those belonging to the executed player are simply discarded), with each player receiving $5 for each of their returned tokens from the bank. The government player then places a stake on the projects (see rule 3a) and returns them to the board. - *Note:* for this rule to work, a rule change is required regarding the use of the Community Fund. The CF can be utilized to pay bail shortage *only if the jailed player chooses to leave before attempting their third die roll.* After the third die roll is attempted, the Community Fund can no longer be used to pay bail. c. Any player who goes to Jail three times in one game is executed immediately. 7. The government player uses the Community Shuttle free of charge. 8. The government player reserves the right to veto any trade between non-government players. 9. The government player wins under *any* of the following conditions: a. The Community Fund has been depleted b. All other players have been executed c. The government manages enough projects under rule 3b that there are insufficient contribution slots among the remaining projects for any single non-government player to use all ten of their contribution tokens If you think the government role sounds ridiculously overpowered, that's because it's meant to be. It's supposed to represent the all-powerful government stacking the rules in its favor, thus minimizing the chances of the common peasants coming out ahead. The non-government players need to play absolutely perfectly, and on top of that have a ridiculous amount of luck, in order to overcome the nigh insurmountable advantage the government possesses. Even then, only one non-government player can ultimately win, which will almost certainly lead to infighting among the peasants looking to advance their own position, all while the government gets richer and stronger, virtually unopposed in its endeavors. Thus the emulation of modern socialism in practice - a society in which the government holds nearly all of the power and wealth while the peasants quarrel over the scraps - is truly complete. Of course, that's assuming the game ever actually starts at all, and the players don't just bicker endlessly over who gets to play as the government. But even there, you have a perfect analogue for a socialist society - in this case, the power struggles and bloody wars that precede the socialist regime's establishment. The ultimate point is to drive home the fact that few outside of the ruling caste have even a remote chance of winning the game of socialism.

[@revplay4910]

Friend:hey do you want to play my monopoly board Me:No our Monopoly board *Soviet anthem intesivied*

[@lool8421]

the jail should be renamed to the gulag change my mind

[@c-c-combobreak]

Gulag isn't a jail.

[@allentray5627]

@@c-c-combobreak r/woooosh

[@revimfadli4666]

It's in an English-speaking hypothetical Socialist country?

[@memeworksanimations2689]

@@c-c-combobreak true but in American private jail people are often forced to work for almost no money so they are not the same but the lines can be blurry

[@rabiayaqoob8256]

bro do jumanji plz

[@RossoCarne]

This sounds infinitely better than classic Monopoly

[@Andoverx]

Not going to lie I thought this was going to be a sketch comedy video at first.

[@kg-ip1nr]

How much did you start with

[@ItsPickaxe]

not surprised

[@rajeshghosh5265]

3 years ago

[@rajeshghosh5265]

A lot

[@moronribbons5774]

All humor aside that does seem like a pretty fun spin on the usual monopoly stuff

[@RainbowDashShadesOfApproval]

There should be a house rule. A player can accuse any other player for treason. This can only be done once per turn or during an auction and only if said player's actions leads to the emptying of the community funds. Then the accused must make a defense and must stand before the banker/judge. If that player is determined guilty, then they are kicked out. The transaction never happens, their money is placed in the community fund and their properties are returned to the bank. The contribution chips are not removed and can be bought as if it was never owned in the first place.

[@Redman_real]

Yeah but that means we can do that to the winner player

[@RainbowDashShadesOfApproval]

@@Redman_real that's the spirit!

[@user-cmcumm]

Yeeee anarcho-syndicalist MONOPOLY finally!

[@dumpsockpuppet5619]

Change(or add) the win condition to "if the bank runs out of money, everyone wins"

[@baval5]

the game has no way to get money out of the bank except through the pathetic wages, and bleeds money into the bank. Apparently our country never makes any money from exports.

[@dumpsockpuppet5619]

@@baval5 the country probably has an embargo impossed on it, you also get money on fully developed projects, even more so in color sets, so the strategy would probably be to auction projects so to pay just five dollars (unless its original price is less) with no one tryimg to outbid and then rushing to Fully develop it (so probably players should focus on one side of the board at the time, also obviously quckly trade projects to make sure players get the full set bonuses), while it's true there are many other ways they lose money. It would transform the dynamic from PvP(player vs Player) to PvE ( -player- Party vs. -Environment- Economy), with players starting weak and easily preyed on, but if they manage cooperate and efficently use their shared ressources to bankrupt the bank that symbolizes they successfully outperformed the capitalist institutions, so socialism wins. Just like having a way to have a single player win can symbolize people within socialism may still want to be above others and be the "Dear Leader" of a Banana Republic

[@witherblaze]

Someone had way too much fun making this game.

[@sid2112]

Needs green army men to enforce the equity. And the army player gets all the funds by moving army tokens to various projects and shooting the other player.

[@waki008reacts8]

00:20 - 00:23 The rest of the money stays with the box as the bank they are no properties but instead projects

[@esrohm6460]

and now charity mode, where you don't get money when you pass go and money can only be gained from landing on fully developed projects.

[@bretglover2525]

Strange. They seemed to have left out the “put dissidents in camps”, “stand in a bread line”, and “give all money to the elites” cards. Strange.

[@famousplan2693]

face the wall

[@bretglover2525]

@@famousplan2693 do not pass go

[@sid2112]

They also missed the "activist burned down your hospital" chance card.

[@HiroNguy]

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 "You catch your neighbor using a plastic straw...." I have to get this! 😆😆😆😆😆

[@BAMBAH101]

Bruh I'm a socialist now wtf this is cool af

[@shieldgenerator7]

this game feels heritical to the standard american viewport, and thats sad

[@christopherhardesty-crouch1119]

That's kinda the point, I think

[@LoveKirbythecutepinkball]

Community chest:”can I come with my brother, chance, mr monopoly?” Mr.monopoly:”fine, community chest. But I will turn you into the community fund.” Community chest:”why do I look like that?!”

[@slugma_nuts]

However this game may have started, joke or otherwise, this actually looks amazing

[@thef0urth326]

You just spend the whole game in jail.

[@franada2750]

No joke I play the video and the ad is Never give you up the full song ...

[@Draghoul03]

I feel like this is trying to poke fun at socialism, but at the same time, it manages to be better than regular monopoly and inadvertently prove that socialism is better in the long term than capitalism. Refular monopoly, the goal of winning is to own as much as you can and it’s a very steamroll heavy game where if any one player gets a significant advantage early on, they’ll have a much easier time keeping the lead, and the end state is inevitably one person owning everything with ridiculous rent fees for both basic living, utilities, and transportation (an oligarchical dystopia if ever I’ve seen one). But the end goal in Socialism Monopoly is just to contribute as much to the community as possible while also awarding the people who helped make those projects possible. It’s a pretty good system where no one is ever left behind while still rewarding people who put in hard work and the end state isn’t really all that unfair, the person who won will likely have more wealth but the other players won’t be bankrupt. Definitely a better alternative to regular Monopoly in my eyes

[@markadams8041]

Please go to British humor, there was a British periodical that featured a game called Care opoly, I only remember the one space, homeless vegan soup kitchen, it was from the 90s.

[@BasicEndjo]

so land on shuttle make the money in community pile almost disappear, and land on a high value project, also why is there trade?

[@xFreSh999_]

Oh boy time to read all the 14 year old political geniuses in the comment section saying how socialism will work everywhere when it's been tried multiple times "but that wasn't real socialism" or "it'll work this time just because" like seriously sit down and actually read the parts you skipped over. You might learn something.

[@masonpyle5929]

What about leftist college students who believe the same thing?

[@Gamorou]

The true guide: Step one:Attach lot of properties Step two: Make a few of them completely miserable in order to few prosperate Step three: Manage to break economy even in your prosperous properties Step four: Declare bankrupcy faster than your opponents Congrats, you commited socialism

[@riley8385]

...and that was today's episode of "attacking socialism by describing capitalism, again".

[@Gamorou]

@@riley8385 And that's... someone that does not know how socialism works and does not look up socialist governments on nowdays and in the past

[@riley8385]

@@Gamorou I live in a country that had its "socialist" government deposed by the US, replaced with a military dictatorship and had its economy dismantled so the US could have cheap access to our resources. Same thing that happened to most Latin Americans. Thank you for trying, tho.

[@oneringtorulethemagicarp7199]

@@Gamorou you litterally described capitalism. like, exactly. not even a little bit or like arguably just... straight up