How to Play Shogi

[@davidmella1174]

1:57 this is an illegal move called nifu... You cant have two unpromoted pawns in the same column

[@SmaishenRebLeon]

funny huh

[@nushcom1126]

Yea, I also notice that..

[@gsrk_coc9100]

I was thinking about it

[@joseleonido3479]

Noticed it.

[@carlinerukke5721]

That makes sense. Too much power, otherwise. Cool!

[@이민준_lee_min_jun]

Never thought I’d see a mistake in a wiki how, a pawn cannot be dropped into the same column you already have an unpromoted pawn in

[@kishascape]

Actually about on par for the usual low quality of wikihow. If you're actually serious about doing something, you know better than to listen to wikihow for anything.

[@Kapaque1]

I've spotted 3 mistakes

[@EdwardCarnby_Fan3]

Damn RGG studio, you force me to play Shogi.

[@virlxy268]

ok this helped a little bit, but now i just need to read japanese lol

[@olivetree7430]

Yeah same . Is there a visual pieces system like in chess ?

[@olivetree7430]

Like different shapes

[@brunodog1943]

Well it’s only kanji it shouldn’t be too difficult

[@cosmomcfloso5820]

Same

[@purnimakasiraju.9954]

Just screenshot each peice naming and positioning chart at the beginning

[@Yiran]

this is a lot harder than chess

[@genekisayan6564]

Just realized why top chess player say it is harder in terms for calculations than chess. The fact that the opponent can use his turn to place any captured piece to any place is just nuts to calculate 🤯🤯🤯

[@Panopticonae]

Man, it's just chess with 2 new pieces and new promotion that only move differently, it cost more calculation yes, but it's not harder

[@TEARSlNTHERAlN]

@@Panopticonaemore calculations means it’ll be harder just even by theory, let alone memorizing all these possibilities

[@Panopticonae]

@@TEARSlNTHERAlN harder in the game, not in calculation, will it be hard to remeber all new pieces and moves they do ? Plus if u know chess it will even be easier

[@rodrigoalvarado9524]

@@Panopticonae Idk, I've played chess and even the crazyhouse variant which is the closest you can get to shogi while still playing chess, and I still struggle. I'm average in chess though, around 1500 - 1700 depending on format on lichess.

[@dadatom9054]

I'm here because my boy will be cosplaying shikamaru so.. yeah let's learn it so maybe, who knows, he will enjoy it too 😂😂😂😂 Ps. The youngest one will cosplay choji, easy task, we both love food.

[@fordastreeets8019]

Yo same here, I came here to learn shogi bc of Shikamaru

[@dadatom9054]

@@fordastreeets8019 omg 😂 just today i finished putting together the outfit for my little choji, my eldest son let his hair grow and we are looking for the jonin jacket now, meanwhile.... We r into chess now 😂 it was easier for him, he is 7! But... The shogi set is always near, i will ask for advice to the japanese lady from our favorite restaurant as soon as she comes back from Japan 👌

[@siddharthsaxena9372]

I'm here to learn Climbing Silver. I wanna learn it faster than Shikadai learns from Shikamaru😬

[@dadatom9054]

@@siddharthsaxena9372 we were defeated 🥲 chess was easier 🤣

[@piyushjadhav2278]

Loved hear

[@KururuFrog]

You know what? That's actually pretty simple. Thanks a lot! Although it's still hard to identify each piece.

[@piyushjadhav2278]

Yeh language barruer but it could be learn in no time

[@Nekoma230]

simple? seems like my 500 elo brain cant even process so many rules

[@davidmella1174]

The lishogi website has a good tutorial. From there i learned how to memorize the pieces.

[@silvercranium]

How many here because of shikamaru?

[@tsar-tsen2182]

How u know? Lmao

[@matteopisanello7787]

I'm not, i'm here because of "when will ayamu make his move?" 😅

[@rageclaw5281]

Me loll

[@Babbafellows]

@@matteopisanello7787 same here 🤣

[@matteopisanello7787]

@@Babbafellows 2 days ago the 1st episode came out (please forgive me for my grammar mistakes, english is not my mother language)

[@TordLarrsonYT]

Promoted Bishop = Horse Promoted Rook = Dragon

[@kalodawg8297]

Promoted King = Hokage

[@heracliusal1292]

@@kalodawg8297 Promoted pawn = nigga

[@user-g2v4c61]

A king can’t promote

[@yhanadame]

Hahaha

[@carinehugz9344]

@@user-g2v4c61 issa joke my guy

[@Jessica-nf9wy]

Who else is here because they watched Naruto and saw Shikamaru play it and became absolutely dedicated to learn afterwards? Just me?

[@gpsewtohul7652]

Me too bro

[@adishpubg3625]

Me

[@BloxxingDinosaurus]

I am here because of Hunter x Hunter.

[@Chess_universe2]

@@BloxxingDinosaurus but where is gonji tho?

[@marlynclaasen3096]

Avatar bro

[@teejaynumber13]

According to anime, this is the most fun board game ever created by humanity.

[@thensho]

funny how the first drop example would result in a loss by illegal drop 😆

[@9tnine]

Why’s it illegal?

[@9tnine]

She says you can drop the piece anywhere? Does that mean any spot open on the bord? Including the promotion spaces?

[@thensho]

@@9tnine on of the few rules for dropping a piece is that you cannot drop a pawn right in front of the king.

[@thensho]

@@9tnine you can drop it anywhere as long as it's an open space (except a pawn in front of the enemy king). and yes, also in the promotion area. the rule for that is that you can drop in the promotion area, but you have to put it down as the unpromoted piece. when a piece moves into the area it can be promoted, but also when it starts it's move within the area and moves within or out of the area. so you can drop a piece in the promotion area, and next turn move it anywhere to promote it.

[@akeem2983]

​@@9tnine There are some limits. For example - in shogi, the situation when one vertical column of the field has more than one pawn that belongs to the single player is illegal (promoted pawns - tokins aren't pawns, so they avoid this rule). You also can't let a piece appear in the position where it won't have any possible legal moves, for example - pawns and lances in the uppermost row of the field. Since they could move only up (if they aren't promoted), in such positions they would have been locked, so you can't drop them here and if you move them here - you should promote them while doing this. And yes - you also can't drop a pawn in a way that will result in a checkmate, but you can do this with any other piece. This applies to checkmates, but doesn't apply to checks, so dropping a pawn in front of the king generally isn't illegal

[@leventtarksencan]

I was looking for alternative games like chess so thanks to Japans ❤️❤️

[@akeem2983]

There are a lot of chess's siblings, I believe the most popular one is Xiangqi

[@jasonrabeiro2009]

This looks alot more engaging and interesting than regular chess. If the pieces didn't all look the same and weren't all written exclusively in Kanji, I believe shogi has the potential to overtake chess in popularity. Basically, give me Naruto pieces as stand-ins for the Shogi pieces!

[@coup-de-grace]

The issue is the fact that your can drop captured pieces. Shogi pieces must point forward because they have no color (like chess with white and black). This makes it easy to capture the opponent's pieces and drop them for your side, because where the pieces is pointing distinguishes who the piece belongs to. A designer would have to work around this issue in making chess like pieces. But I agree it would be cool.

[@Az4le.a]

im here to learn shogi for a fanfic I'm writing...

[@Kapaque1]

A shogi fanfic?

[@shrirambhakt1900]

Inspiration from shikamaru

[@orang7525]

you cannot have more than one pawn in a column at any time

[@brucelee7782]

holy cow just based off on movements alone this is more complicated than chess or chinese chess. You can even play a captured piece whaaaat? That takes things up to a whole new level

[@1mol831]

Games gonna last forever

[@davidmella1174]

@@1mol831 the game can be definitely shorter than you think. Many people play 1 minute shogi (or maybe 10 seconds per turn shogi) online. But on average, the game is longer than chess.

[@sweetdurt2143]

1:57 illegal move detected, you can't have 2 unpromoted 歩兵 on the same row.

[@speedcuber4life590]

The king is the children...

[@cristianjuarez1086]

?????

[@speedcuber4life590]

@@cristianjuarez1086 it's a naruto reference

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

​@@cristianjuarez1086it's a naruto reference

[@dharamdeosah1003]

How many here because of Rei kiriyama ( Sangatsu no raion )

[@beforeikillyou7430]

march comes in like a lion......so did you learn it?

[@thatoneflaregun3167]

How the japanese pieces would look like in american chess Gold: Pentagonal shield Silver: i have absolutely no idea Lance: Sword

[@burgerking3763]

Behold! Chess 2!

[@sayakchakrabarty]

its like crazy house chess mixed with standard chess and with more pieces.

[@joshmeyers1808]

You notice the have the bishop in the wrong spot at 0:33

[@Chii_Motosuwa]

Yeah

[@kimitohanahala8674]

If only Bobby Fischer learned about shogi

[@share.theworld]

Thanks wikihow

[@rnradorzuegirdor2078]

this is way more interesting than chess

[@tak0o]

You know.. I'm here because of Hifumi Togo

[@FadesGameShack]

Having a hard time deciding who is best girl. Its between Hifumi, Makoto, and Tawakami

[@tak0o]

@@FadesGameShack High School romance = Hifumi Adult Romance = Kawakami That's always my route

[@LTDudzek]

@@tak0o its all about lala escargot

[@orel2109]

PERSONA 5 LET'S GOOOO

[@orel2109]

@@tak0o Kawakami is a sweetheart, but less my type. I like Ann and Makoto more for HS, and Takemi for adult.

[@izanazir7088]

As a former chess player I can confirm they all look like pawn to me.

[@typingcat]

Damn, the rules are complex.. and the the pieces are hard to recognise because they all are just Chinese letters, instead of distinct shapes.

[@izanazir7088]

😂😂😂 its Japanese

[@SanjeevKC-p8x]

@@izanazir7088 Why are you laughing, the letters are literally Chinese letters. Japanese also use Chinese letters or its derivatives for their Kanji in Japanese language. Do some research before making a fool of yourself 😂😂😂

[@izanazir7088]

@@SanjeevKC-p8x ohhhhh sorry damn me lol, I guess i should keep playing chess 😅

[@quantumlove7950]

@@izanazir7088Youre not totally wrong at least. promoted pawn contains a letter と, which is still a derivative of a Chinese letter 止 but was developed in Japan around 900s to simplify another derivative. So it’s sufficiently far from its original Chinese letter and old enough to be considered a different letter. In addition, unlike Chinese letters (or kanji), hiragana such as と doesn’t convey its own unique meaning any more. Fun fact: there are tons of old sayings and idioms derived from Shogi. A notable example includes 成金, which refers to Nouveau riche because a pawn suddenly becomes と金 and moves like 金, which inherently means money, once promoted.

[@izanazir7088]

@@quantumlove7950 ok so joke is valid, i am confused

[@johnzhibai]

Wait u can bring back all the enemy pieces back to live anytime anywhere?

[@REYKAXAMA]

Same as edo tensei... originated from Japan🤣

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

There are three restrictions to that 1-a pawn can not be dropped on the same colum as another of your unpromoted pawns 2-a piece may not be dropped on a square that already contains a piece 3-a piece must be dropped on a place where ot would still be able to move if it were to be moved again on the same turn. This means that you, for example, cannot drop a gold general in a place where it is completely surronded by your pieces But yeah, if it isn't a pawn then you kinda can place a piece you captured anywhere on the board, even on promotion squares

[@davidmella1174]

⁠@@jestfullgremblim8002 I don't think that your last example is correct. Rule #3 refers to placing pieces where it would be an impossibility to *ever* move, specifically placing pawns in the last row, lances in the last row, and knights in the last two rows. If your last example was so, that would also mean that you couldn't place a pawn behind another non pawn such as a gold because the gold is in the way (this is also a common defense technique which all players should learn one day called pawn-anchored gold).

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

@@davidmella1174 oh! You seem to be right!!! And i'm pretty sure that i missed something else as well

[@davidmella1174]

@@jestfullgremblim8002 I think the rule that forbids immediate checkmate by a pawn drop

[@randomgamer4406]

So when i sacrifice the rook what do i say?

[@toufikib9283]

THE ROOOOOOOK 😂

[@arcticredpanda4598]

rookifice!

[@efenty6235]

chess but more anime

[@piyushjadhav2278]

Do you know who the king is and must be protected ------- Shikamaru answer ---》 मुलं

[@Аноним25-ж6т]

Cool idea showing the dropping mechanic with a freaking kinte

[@9tnine]

Can you only drop pawns or something?

[@LoveKirbythecutepinkball]

@@9tnineyou can drop one piece if: If you drop a soldier, he is not on a same column of his brother, except he was promoted. Also if you choose to drop soldier or lancer on the promotion zone, they must be on second row of the promotion zone. If you drop a knight and you choose to drop on the promotion zone, you must place him on third row of promotion zone. You may also drop bishop, charioteer, warrior aka gold general, and commander aka silver general on any unoccupied space

[@xLynxxx]

As a guy who knows how to play chess atleast, this is crazy

[@brd8764]

rows or columns!

[@julliestream]

Thanks i wanted to play shogi

[@somder303]

Nice

[@anoopsingh4394]

Such a drag

[@rageclaw5281]

Lol im also here bcoz of shikamaru

[@Toniez0]

How'd I know id find shikamaru here

[@REYKAXAMA]

Now i know where the idea edo tensei come from😂

[@neosky9]

Hunter X Hunter brought me here😅

[@peterdmaster]

0:40 why not ?

[@MmrBooster-dy9zo]

I'm here because of the anime "ryou's work is never done".

[@diamondanddj2311]

The same thing just japanese-

[@animeaddict8427]

Almost same as chess , but is there an English version

[@davidmella1174]

There are sets with alternative symbols printed on the pieces. I would recommend that for a local shogi group, but all serious western players learn the japanese characters eventually. All of the resources and charts or literature have printed chinese characters in grids. It's funny, in this way shogi resembles sudoku a lot, while chess always requires some sort of designed graphic to be displayed.

[@sadgoy.]

Lol they're not even picking up the pieces properly. 🤣

[@ariace3602]

81 diver!!! 🍯🍯🍯🍯

[@davidmella1174]

I didn't think that anyone here would know that show

[@onharmile3046]

Jo please do one for mahjong I'm begging you

[@togo1965]

yakuza?

[@CrazedFloridaMan]

​@@togo1965Yakuza.

[@iRReligious]

That's a Japanese chess!😁🤣

[@Dima-ug7zo]

So it's chinese chess? I'm saying chinese cuz it looks like chess from alibaba😅

[@xLynxxx]

Its japanese old man

[@miyaalucard7173]

Here because of akashi (knb)

[@paulix5678]

Fr

[@havocTV123]

Im here because im playing like a dragon ishin! 😂

[@Seth6000]

I'm here because of Shikamaru Nara of course

[@paulix5678]

Who's here becouse of Akashi from Kuroko no basket? XD

[@ijansk]

This game is more complex than chess, so I pass on this one.

[@panpolypuff]

Anyone else here because of Persona 5? 😂

[@とーふ-t4f]

いきなり二歩したのちょっと笑った

[@alisonnelson2169]

lol. I bought the game because of Shikamaru from Naruto.

[@FranciscoSanchezXO]

how many people are here just because they want to 100% yakuza 0 lmao

[@pieroramirez4493]

quien para

[@maxinea.sakaki4151]

This is 4d chess

[@LQQ.ERR0R]

Ye

[@misonikomipasta]

二歩はだめ🙅🏻‍♀️

[@markie10383]

so chess.

[@tukhsanov]

Who is here after watching Hunter x Hunter

[@forcesidereason6685]

The downside is you have to play with pro players only if you are not Japanese 😂

[@t4u664]

hello😃 81_divers and 64_divers

[@ramkyhariharan5649]

mendokusei

[@qwertyuji]

Such a drag 😒

[@noname-ck2os]

That was easy😒

[@imanormalboi5174]

mmm...some thing wrong

[@Chii_Motosuwa]

1. Wrong bishop spot 2. Nifu

[@FatGamerDad]

If only I could read Japanese lol Are used to love playing chess and shogi definitely seems more interesting

[@Nishimura125kuro]

you dont rly have to know the kanji. its just about remembering designs. It took me just a day and then i got better at recognising them. you should try lishogi, it helps u with some to tutorials to remember them.

[@heatedheavy693]

thats fucking complicated

[@Setogayamari]

Anyone here from Yakuza and found out it's basically chess

[@notomnis]

yes

[@goncaloduarte4683]

I'm here because lost judgment requires you to get points in shogi to unlock a skill book.