Hey guys, at the time of making this I definitely undervalued Shadowflame, but it turns out this item is super OP. In the video I say pick up Horizon Focus almost 100% of the time but now I think it's pretty 50/50 between Shadowflame and Horizon Focus depending on how many squishies they have. Since the Solo Queue meta right now has so many squishy, low hp targets I'd lean towards Shadowflame at the moment but you can change depending on their champions.
@David-qg3vr2 жыл бұрын
You should try my build: Dark Harvest Sudden impact Eyeball collection Ravenous hunter Manaflow band Scorch Adaptive force x2 Hp or armor Build: Doran or tear starter Sorcerer boots Jeweled (+15% MR pen) Void staff Ludeen’s Shadow flame Tear upgrade either muramana or seraph’s D-cap
@David-qg3vr2 жыл бұрын
Power spikes at level 1,2,6,9, sorcerer, jewl, void staff, ludeen, shadow flame. Heavy poke in lane and clear the caster minions priority
@El_Couvros2 жыл бұрын
lichbane?
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
@@El_Couvros Decent as last item but not that good before then.
@David-qg3vr2 жыл бұрын
@@El_Couvros the 4 items I mentioned are all heavy AP penetration, if anything, u don’t need that extra proc attack and just go for a straight Q or EQ one shot with a nice touch of sparkle on attack proc
@Theronxz2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Some additional tips and tricks from a Zoe OTP that I would like to add. Spell Thief (W) is incredibly strong early game. You can potentially take it level 1 if an invade fight breaks out. The amount of summoners you could possibly pick up can turn a level 1 fight or simply running into an enemy level 1 in the river or they''re far away from safety. Using ignite and flash for W procs you can run down most enemies. (Especially good if they use summoners as well that you can pick up.) For me in most cases, I take W level 2. If the RNG gods are with you, you get a balloon minion that can lead to a level 2 all in especially if they make the mistake of trying to trade with you. Even if you don't all in level 2, it's there immediately when you hit level 3 and level up your E. If you don't get a balloon minion, since you can get a W proc from ignite and flash with two passive auto procs, I think is a lot stronger all in especially since it is not skill shot reliant like with your E. (For example, in your laning against the LB. If you took W there and play it the exact same way feinting that you are looking for an E and she walks into the lane like that. She probably would have been dead to spell thief procs. If not Flash auto certianly would have killed her.) Two combos you can use that I don't believe you covered. A fast Q, E, Q will cancel the animation for the E making it much harder to react to. This is fairly niche but you can use it to catch out an opponent before a gank comes to land the E or probably the most useful case is to land sleeps through spell shields. (Nocturne or anyone with a banshees/edge of night.) The q will hit them first taking the spell shield then the E will hit them almost immediately after. It can help save your life if they are jumping on top of you. The other is the fast Q, R, Q. (Q backwards, immediately R, then immediately Q again. Flash can be added as well) This can catch a lot of people off guard and can be hard to dodge. Generally good for finishing off a low health enemies or just going for some quick poke onto someone. With Spell thief, if you pick up a summoner spell that you have. Flash for example. You can just press your regular flash key and it will consume the Spell Thief flash first. Making double flash combos easier to pull off. Also with her E, DOTS don't wake up or proc the double damage. Ignite is the best use of this, if you are committing to the all in and you land the E. You can ignite first for the movement speed to help better position yourself and you will have the three W procs ready for when you land your Q. (Fun fact, MF's ult counts as a DOT so a fun combo is putting someone to sleep and having the MF just ult them and they are asleep for almost the entire duration of her ult.) Portal Jump, since you alway go back to your position, can be used to block hooks or binds to save a teammate from getting hit. For example, Blitzcrank hook, you R in front of the teamate and tank the grab and before he can follow up with any other cc you will be back at your original position. You can even do it if you are alone against a Blitzcrank, you can try to R on top of him as he is casting the grab and will go back to your origninal position. (Not super reccommended cause you are squishy but the possibility is there) With Kayn R or Zed R where they are going to come out on top of you. You can try to R at the right time to force them into turret or over a wall and then you will go back to your original positiong with relative safety.
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
Lot of good info here! You're right those combos do have niche situations where they can be useful.
@Fuyukori2 жыл бұрын
Great tips 😁
@0neonited4632 жыл бұрын
That's a very long comment..my guy. Also informative..
@salad19632 жыл бұрын
love playing zoe both support and midlane, but especially as a support because there's more summs to pick up and just the R over walls and to place down vision is underrated i'd say
@szarvasszilard50612 жыл бұрын
I just started to learn Zoe for my S12 climb. I'm around Diamond mmr this is definitely helpful for me. Thanks man. Subbed + like.
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
Thanks homie, gl on the climb!
@tonidenza40572 жыл бұрын
Im around silver mmr 😰
@szarvasszilard50612 жыл бұрын
@@tonidenza4057 I'm playing for 6 years now.
@erikquaza2 жыл бұрын
Super high quality video! More on Zoe's identity, when does she truly shine and what is your plan when going into a game as Zoe? Are you pretty much always looking for solokills and snowballing? Are you more of a roaming champion? Or is she more like a traditional mage that gets stronger as the game goes on or are you trying to end the game as early as possible? Like what are you playing for kinda?
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
Definitely look for solokills and to snowball the early game. You can roam when you have good opportunities but you shouldn't force it like you do on TF or other roaming champions. I think her strongest point is the early-mid game, she doesn't really fall off damage wise at any point but just in general there will be more skirmishes in early-mid that you can easily turn the tide of.
@DefeatLust2 жыл бұрын
Dude, this is such a boss video. Thank you
@lordsapper98632 жыл бұрын
Highly recommend give another try for relentless hunter. It’s gives u way more opportunity for picking enemy with q or e in team fights and skirmishers. Few precent of omniwamp useless on mages after recent nerfs. 13 % of movement speed out of combat with 10 % of ms from majays feels extremely good in mid game. Also hunter for cdr good with over glass and new crown. Give zed no way to one shot u
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
I'll try out relentless hunter, definitely sounds like it could be better. Thanks!
@popawrldofx54292 жыл бұрын
I've recently picked up an zoe CDR build because the runes and itemization are pretty boring on zoe cause they are always the same. Other runes than the normal one: -Ingenious Hunter instead of ravenous hunter -Absolute focus and nimbus cloak for the second tree Items: Ludens > cdr boots > archangel staff > horizon focus > zhonyas ( depents) > Rabadons If you have the time for it, I would appreciate if you could give it a try and give feedback on how it worked out for you. Maybe we can figure out some changes for it. Have a great evening.
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
I've tried CDR heavy builds on Zoe before and they are pretty fun getting to spam so much, but I think the full pen builds fit Zoe's identity a bit more. That being said if you wanted to make this build viable/more fun I'd say swap absolute focus to celerity for more movespeed. Also swap horizon focus to Rabadon's 3rd if you want more damage, or Lich Bane 3rd if you want more movespeed!
@robertocarrara48612 жыл бұрын
Zoe , and Syndra are my favorite champions , two amazing guides nice joob;)
@pratyushbaruah4092 Жыл бұрын
Very in depth video , thank you so much ❤️. U explained so nicely wht to take , why to take
@valentinplasil94512 жыл бұрын
Great video, really nicely explained You deserve more views tbh
@vainklutz31792 жыл бұрын
You can cast the second direction of q on the same spot of the first cast for quick extra damage.
@flameofmage10992 жыл бұрын
I noticed that in both this and in the Syndra guide you recommend Ravenous. Since its been removed what do you suggest? Also, what us your opinion on Nimbus Cloak on Zoe?
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
On Syndra take ultimate hunter, on Zoe take Relentless Hunter? (the movespeed one). I think nimbus is good but normally I prefer the inspiration tree second. If you are taking sorcery then nimbus cloak is good.
@ItsSliWill2 жыл бұрын
Lets go Shok!
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
love u big man
@wade10952 жыл бұрын
I like harvest cheap shot eyeball and treasure hunter with either mana flow and gathering or biscuit and time warp. For either more later game damage or more early survival.
@abraryusuf99332 жыл бұрын
hey man, this is a really good guide, thank you
@denisbauer75762 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your guide Shok ill never figured out how to build her iteams, greatings from gearmany. :) now i how somothing to work with. Gl and have fun ill guess ^^
@rathernot4254 Жыл бұрын
Hi Shok, I would like to know how you auto attack. For example I see you use attack move click(default on A) at 28:18. I assume you use right click to auto a lot more but i might be wrong. More importantly, what about during combos? At 28:32 you comboed q auto(minion) q auto(minion missed). I see you used attack move click on the minion missed but what about the first auto?
@rathernot4254 Жыл бұрын
I'm asking since use attack move left click to auto attack. I feel like it doesn't matter when csing, but when comboing I would need to press more buttons to pull it off. For example, at 28:32 i would need to press q --> Attack move left click --> q --> attack move left click; this is alongside the right clicks to move zoe throughout the combo. Thanks for your help!
@ShokLeague Жыл бұрын
I normally use A but sometimes I right click, I don't really think about it though its just natural at this point
@slapmemaki2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!! It helped me alot, subscribed!!! ❤❤❤
@dinomite37942 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr Shok for this guide :)
@Joe.D.780 Жыл бұрын
very divided between spellbook and electrocute builds, I feel like spell book is much more versatile but electrocute makes all ins feel so much more rewarding .
@ShokLeague Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think elec is better in soloq most of the time
@manididi68192 жыл бұрын
Dude i used to watch Ur name on dzukill stream i wished to see Ur youtube Channel now it popped good Luck buddy ❤️
@POTPachyOTP Жыл бұрын
Thanks, see ya next time
@hershy49752 жыл бұрын
if u can plz make guides for orianna viktor leblanc
@danielchuang72182 жыл бұрын
Great guide, very informative
@platypuz806810 ай бұрын
I dont know if you´re going to see this comment. But I have some questions. You cover laning and teamfighting. But what about midgame? when the rotations start and botlane goes mid. Sidelaning with Zoe is not good, as she has no escapes and is very vulnerable in sidelane. Would love to get your opinion on this.
@ShokLeague10 ай бұрын
I have a video in my road to rank 1 series that you might wanna watch, it deals a lot with sidelaning as Zoe in mid game
@unbotheredwaffle2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos Shok
@Mason22 жыл бұрын
Hey, quick question, in this video you say pick horizon focus almost 100 % but on mobafire you put shadowflame now into the standard build. Should I go shadowflame or horizon focus now?
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
Good catch, I definitely undervalued Shadowflame at the time of making this. I'd say now it's pretty 50/50, with maybe a slight edge towards Shadowflame if you get a lot of value from MPEN, and Horizon Focus if not.
@Mason22 жыл бұрын
@@ShokLeague Thanks :)
@1w2q2 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, it looks like the mobafire link in the description is broken. Great guide, thank you very much.
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
Thanks g, fixed it up.
@smoke_ttg48422 жыл бұрын
great video
@atum71602 жыл бұрын
Very good guide thank you
@maso79792 жыл бұрын
I know this is a bit old, just wanna say minion demat feels sooooo good in certain matchups!
@maximiliansh2 жыл бұрын
What a great video, how do you only have 430 subs?
@baseballnerd52352 жыл бұрын
Im playing zoe to climb to iron 2
@melcasucre29712 жыл бұрын
I'm curious about what other zoe players thinks about dark harvest I tend to dislike electrocute's focus on 1v1 laning kills and i'm wondering if dark harvest couldnt be used as a easier to trigger and more teamfight oriented electrocute
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
imo electrocute is just better, but dark harvest is ok too
@melcasucre29712 жыл бұрын
@@ShokLeague i see, i'll keep testing both in different drafts to see which is better for me then .w.
@peaceenjoyer2 жыл бұрын
thank you for this geat video. the lvl3 all it thing is definitly very real. do you think it makes sense to pick zoe EVERY SINGLE game? i do this and im in bronze. some matchups seem very unfair. abd when were behind theres is barely ever a turnaround.
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
I think it's fine to pick Zoe every game, there are some annoying matchups like you said so you could have another blind pick champion if your pool if it was a big issue but I think you can manage with Zoe
@cristopher20922 жыл бұрын
With the new tp nerf, is it still good on zoe? I actually dont know if with spellbook you get "unleashed teleport" or just regular one
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
Still decent since if you're taking TP on Zoe it's most likely just to help with your lane, not TPing to other lanes.
@muffy93212 жыл бұрын
Awsome guide
@shado94038 ай бұрын
Hi Shok. I really want to be a Zoe OTP and stuck silver 3. Seems like I played Zoe all this time as a traditional mage instead of assassin. I watched and rewinded several times and couldn't understand what you mean by going all in. Should I always let them push into me beforehand? If she can one shot champs from 80% health, how about do you suppose i go about it?. The video simply shows you beed skill 😂 which i struggle with sometimes. Everytime i do however walk towards auto attack based chanps or mages they poke and kill me the moment i try to punish their cooldowns. I was looking at nymbus cloak to help me menauver in the wave better to hrlp with running them down but im not sure how to go about it. I hope you will help me and apologies for yhe stupid questions. Hope your doing well :) and hear from you soon
@ShokLeague8 ай бұрын
Normally you're gonna get successful all ins by clearing the back wave of ranged creeps so they have nothing to hide behind, then wave forward and look for a bubble or R + bubble. It gets bit easier later in the lane since you eventually have enough power on your Q to one shot the backwave of ranged creeps.
@ryanbijsterbosch61802 жыл бұрын
high Quality content keep up the good work !
@halloeverybodhi6132 жыл бұрын
Is Transcendence really all that useful? Wouldn't it be better to take gathering storm considering Zoe's cooldowns are already low as hell
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
imo gathering storm just isn't really a rune until 20 minutes which is a pretty long time, and transcendence has decent value before that. If you want better scaling though gathering storm is for sure better
@wade10952 жыл бұрын
How do you feel about dark harvest on Zoe? Do you think it is viable?
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
It's definitely viable, but I prefer electrocute
@glycendnewscar9365 Жыл бұрын
Hi Shok. I'd like to know if you think vex is better than zoe as a champion, not taking into consideration the patch :) Thank you
@ShokLeague Жыл бұрын
hmm I'd say probably not, they are kinda different tho it's weird to compare
@glycendnewscar9365 Жыл бұрын
@@ShokLeague i would like to know if you will do a tier list but only taking into considerstion the spell kit, how good are thec hampions and not the pwtch, for exanple werlyb that is a pro player did a tier list like that,so it is good to watch that video anytime, doesnt matter the patch
@Anna-wl8ly2 жыл бұрын
I understand this was made a while ago, ravenous is no longer a thing. What do you recommend instead?
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
I think Relentless Hunter is probably the best now, although Ingenious Hunter could be good if you plan on building Everfrost. I think Relentless Hunter will probably return the most extra value though for the most part.
@androgeniko2 жыл бұрын
I'm in iron 2 but I will only play zoe this year and will be the best zoe this world have ever seen
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
Love the confidence
@bluey4579 Жыл бұрын
I love this
@torvusdog76472 жыл бұрын
Hey Shok, if I get a point blank bubble and I am near them, should I ult backwards and then paddlestar OR run backwards to paddlestar and then ult forwards? I hope this makes sense. Thanks!
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
Good question! Paddlestar backwards in that case unless for some reason you need to do a quick Q (tenacity), then just Q without ult and use ult to chase them with an auto.
@torvusdog76472 жыл бұрын
@@ShokLeague Do you think it is ever worth ulting backwards first to get more paddlestar distance? I'm just a bit confused because in my question you paddlestar backwards in both scenarios. It was more a question of the ult.
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
@@torvusdog7647 Sorry I just mistyped, I meant ult backwards in that case unless you need to do a quick Q (without ulting) for reasons above.
@torvusdog76472 жыл бұрын
@@ShokLeague Thanks for the help! This is a really well made guide :D
@rtvhey29082 жыл бұрын
thaaaaankx
@wade10952 жыл бұрын
It just feels more consistent to me currently
@werbung2k5152 жыл бұрын
I love playing zoe as support, is this even a option or should i switch to midlane? My main role is support so…
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
Honestly it's not a bad support, it's just better mid. I think Zoe Syndra and LeBlanc are all decent supports.
@werbung2k5152 жыл бұрын
@@ShokLeague thanks for your answer. Found out its a brutal comb with lilia as adc…sleep plus lilia W early is illegal
@bagniak1868 Жыл бұрын
how to get high farm like you on zoe? I barely have 100 cs in 20 minute
@ShokLeague Жыл бұрын
Gotta get ahead and stay ahead, once you fall behind on Zoe it's really hard to CS
@nicynator75692 жыл бұрын
I am currently looking to learn how to play zoe and i've recently heard that buying LichBane second since the recent buff is a really good option, is that true or kinda like clickbait for inexperienced zoe players?
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't really recommend it. Lich bane can be pretty good really late game on Zoe like 5th or 6th item but Shadowflame especially is a much better second item.
@El_Couvros2 жыл бұрын
does lich bane work with zoe? do you use it?
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
Decent as a last item but not that good before then.
@ether65212 жыл бұрын
Yes
@timmbobb2 жыл бұрын
Pffft, everyone knows Pekinwoof is the number 1 Zoe mid
@djaye91222 жыл бұрын
I thought hextech flash was good to takes
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
Not that good since Zoe doesn't max W 2nd anymore
@netsu78242 жыл бұрын
how is malzahar "free"?
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
Every time he uses W for voidlings you can kill them all with your Q. He has no tools to stop you from just running at him with ignite and bubble since his shield is such a long cooldown. Also his q skillshot is easily dodgeable so he can't ever poke you down. After 6 the gank setup is annoying but you will still be able to 1v1 him easily.
@netsu78242 жыл бұрын
@@ShokLeague thanks, i usually insta ban him so i was confused
@john95602 жыл бұрын
Don't mean to be rude but this guide is surprisingly basic considering coming from a rank 1 challenger. If you title every video rank 1 guide then you should expect advanced players to be watching and these videos you are putting out are more like guide for beginners than "rank 1" guide. I suggest checking out LoL Dobby format and display some of your advanced tips and tricks as a rank 1.
@ShokLeague2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, I'll make sure to check it out. For the most part I've just included what I think is actually important to play Zoe to a high challenger level, but it's possible I've missed some stuff.