How To Prep A Goalie Mask / Helmet

[@jboairbrush]

Hope you guys like the vid, if you have any questions or any more information on the safety stickers please leave a comment!! Thanks!!

[@Kreug11]

With an older mask like you mentionned where the foam is glued to the mask... what would you use to remove the glue ? Thanks ! Trying to give a second life to an old mask :)

[@jboairbrush]

@@Kreug11 well heat definitely helps soften up any adhesive, So would definitely give that a go. Any left over glue residue you could get off with Final Wipe or some other variety of wax and grease remover. Are you needing to salvage them? or will you replace the foams?

[@TooSlowTube]

@@Kreug11 IPA (Isopropanol or Isopropyl Alcohol sometimes works to remove residues of glue or paint - it depends on the glue. It doesn't necessarily need to be the 99% pure stuff either - the sort with a bit of water in it, or adding some to the purer stuff (say, 70% IPA), sometimes works better. I've used it a lot for model making, in the past. I use the pure stuff to clean my brass instruments, (trumpets, etc) or instead of hand gel :) A little spray bottle works well for that. There are some materials, especially plastics, which can be softened ("melted") by IPA though, so always test a small area first. Cleaning the top of my LCD monitor with it didn't go all that well :) Petrol or even kerosene, can work too, but it's more likely to damage the other materials. Citrus based cleaners, like orange oil - pure or diluted a little, can be surprisingly effective, and are much safer to work with. Diluted IPA, say 50:50 with water, works well as a "positioning fluid" for self adhesive decals and transfers - provided they're water proof and the colours are reasonably solvent proof, like vinyl ones. Decals are generally not a good idea for helmets though - they can weaken motorbike helmets, apparently - the glue sometimes eats into the surface. #masks4all or #nomasksatall

[@jonmorris6793]

You mention a part 2 will be coming to discuss priming and further prep. Will we ever see this video?

[@HelloFredDupuis]

@@jonmorris6793 +1

[@legoobear6810]

I can't imagine painting the mask creates a less-safe helmet, unless you alter the construction of the helmet in the process. I just became a goalie and like painting and want to paint/air brush my own mask-- this tutorial was REALLY helpful. So thanks for putting this together!

[@tradingmedic]

Using an NME4 which is the lowest level mask for a custom paint job is unsafe and dumb.

[@doobiesnax420]

Dude you're a legend. Hands down best tutorials. Keep up the amazing work bud!

[@jboairbrush]

Awesome thanks man that means a lot!! I'm tryin to make em super thorough, but also hopefully not toooo long and boring haha. But really that's quite the compliment so thanks a lot!

[@orionquest1970]

Great video, very helpful! I'm curious about what you do after completing the paint job. Any tips or recommendations on clear coating or other protective choices?

[@ARFF1Tampa]

Thank you. Although I've painted about 3 goalie masks before. I have one I want to paint for myself the right way and this will help. It's great too that now the paints are water soluble.

[@trentnesbitt1930]

This is it... the video I've been waiting for. Can't wait to see the priming pt. 2

[@jboairbrush]

Thanks so much! yeah I did some searching and found there were a few videos on KZbin, but nothing this thorough, so decided I should do it! Yes, and the next one will be coming!... soon but not too soon haha I have a bit before I work on another mask!

[@mycyclopticeye]

@@jboairbrush I know this is just a gift to the community so ZERO expectations, but just wanted to put another x in the column of wanting to see pt 2!

[@jboairbrush]

@@mycyclopticeye yeah for sure I will do it! I think about it sometimes but I’ve been so rushed on the last few jobs. What I want to do is the priming / basecoat one, and then a clearcoat one. I have a simpler mask in the near future I will do it!

[@mycyclopticeye]

@@jboairbrush Awesome! I'm very curious.

[@theirishman088]

This is awesome. I am a new subscriber and I am also an automotive painter getting into airbrushing. I have been drawing for along time but I'm trying to transfer my work to airbrushing and make some side money. My question is what if your client wants the bauer logos still? do you make new ones with a vinyl cutter or do you mask them off? I have lots of question lol since I don't know many people that airbrush and the ones that do won't tell me bc they say they don't want to lose business. Thanks for posting these videos

[@jboairbrush]

Thanks man, yeah so in my sanding and priming / base coat process the bauer logos definitely get covered up so I re paint them back on. I have a vinyl cutter and will use that to cut the logo out and spray it with that.

[@adamwenner5849]

This was great can you continue with a full series to include psi reducing the whole nine

[@jboairbrush]

Yes sir!! That is absolutely what is going to happen! Will just happen slowly over time as I also have a large back catalog of footage I will also be uploading, but stay tuned cause its all coming!

[@belsteed6050]

I know life is busy all the time but do you plan on posting part 2? Just askin i like how you work and trust you more than Anyone on youtube, you are such a professional.

[@jboairbrush]

I don’t think so. At the time that I was trying to be a “KZbinr” these vids were a lot of work and weren’t really getting the traction I was hoping for. And yes now I’m just really busy. But I think in the future I may do a course like this that’s more in depth, like a masterclass that will be purchasable. This is probably how I will do it.

[@belsteed6050]

@@jboairbrush I understand ! You have such talent. I hope you find a way to make it profitable enough, I have 3 mask right now that need a theme and paint.. I have 1araï helmet, 1 sportmask Mage and a Bauer NME ONE, I keep having idea of what I want since like 20 years but never achieved anything, not sure what is wrong with me. yesterday night I drawed 5 hours straight until early in the morning and magic happened after years omg, I studied in visual arts 25 years ago and did nothing with it .. I just can't do it, I'm scared, I don't want to waste it..airbrushing is so compex I need you as a teacher so in the next 20 years I'm able to paint a project, I refuse to ride or play until I can achieve it lol 🙀 😂

[@GoalieDad-xz8qp]

YES! Been waiting for this! Can’t wait for the primer phase. Can you please address and recommend in the next video a primer/sealer when using water based paint because I know you’re into the solvent based paints. I’m using water based and a bit hesitant on using solvent paint because I’m a beginner. The most confusing thing when trying to educate my self online is the different opinions on using solvent based primers with water based paints! Yes you can. No you can’t. It’s exhausting 🤔. In the end I just wanna do what JBo would do if he were having to use water based paints. Thanks so much for taking the time to educate us beginners!!

[@jboairbrush]

Awesome man, and a great point. Yeah I've been thinking this because I use solvent but most people do not, so the best way would be to show both as options. I'm less familiar with water based but I have asked a few other painters I know and do intend to have that as an option for the prime/paint video.. or maybe another video on that, but gotta do the research first. Great point and I will try and do both. thanks a lot!

[@simonreilly213]

You protect the inside here to not paint it, but if I'm refurbishing a mask and the inside looks gross is it okay to throw down some primer and clear coat inside as well?

[@jboairbrush]

Yes you could definitely paint the inside as well, just make sure you sand / scuff the inside too, follow the same process for the inside and will be good!

[@michaelgiuffre7837]

Do you prefer a white mask to start rather than black? Thanks!

[@tommywd40]

Hey Jordan, what about removing an existing cheap paint job. would you recommend a more aggresive/abrasive grit? Let me know!

[@michaelswiren1195]

Awesome video!! I was wondering while we wait for the next video in the series, if you could tell us what primer you use?

[@jboairbrush]

yes I'm using RM 870 with the DH99 hardener, its pretty damn expensive but it has worked just great for me!! if you are using urethane basecoat for your ground coat I would recommend, but like I say $$$

[@michaelswiren1195]

@@jboairbrush Thanks! For the average hobbyist, does a basic auto primer work?

[@jboairbrush]

@@michaelswiren1195 yeah just try and find something made for plastics. If you use auto air you can just use their sealer right onto the sanded plastic, I'm told it works great and there's a white one. This is not my system but if that's what you are using it should def work for you!

[@stevehepburn5094]

Very thorough video. About the stickers: As soon as the surface is altered the CSA certificate is void. To maintain it you would have to send a painted mask to CSA and have them do destructive testing on it. You would then have to guarantee the same paint, process, etc. every time to keep certification. The other way is to get written consent by the helmet manufacturer of what paint to use. But they won't because they have their own paint departments. I chased a few for months. Only brand that gave me a pass was Calcoat out of Quebec (not even sure they're still around or not). All they said was "Use a paint designed for marine or automotive fibreglass and gel-coats". Pretty vague. I would just tape the sticker over, paint the bucket, uncover the sticker. To the ref he couldn't tell if it was aftermarket paint or not: he'd just look for the sticker. As for the customer, I had them sign a waiver acknowledging that the CSA certification was now null and void. Great video. I am definitely going to look for your painting tutorial to compare to what I do. Always room to learn or share!

[@jboairbrush]

Thanks man, yeah I imagine you point the mask you void the certification, but I'm pretty sure the refs are just gunna want to see that the sticker is there and then they will let them play, which I imagine is all the person with the mask wants as well. So masking it off would def work, I don't want the mask lines so I just take it off and put it back on, but yeah it's all a little hairy and vague on whats actually ok haha.

[@tradingmedic]

An NME4 for a custom paint job?! Lets skimp on the head protection and spend a fortune on makeup (paint). I've had two custom painted masks. Both used pro level masks as the base.

[@Bobbybbops]

What can i use to fill large holes? Bondo?

[@GoProGoalieUzi]

Awesome! That’s exactly how I do it!!

[@jboairbrush]

Great! Yeah I was thinking for people with experience this could help reaffirm what they already know and for beginners be a great guide for good practice. Either way some good info in here for everyone!

[@brianindorato5255]

Yep, that’s the exact same process I use too. The only thing that can be a pain in the neck on the NME masks, is the pesky side logo. They can take some time to get nice and flat without burning through the clear. This is such a great video!!! Wish something like this existed 6 years ago when I started. Many trials and errors...and swearing back then. Great work @jbo airbrush

[@johansson8960]

So... when is part 2 coming?

[@henrikmikkola3513]

What kind of primer you use if the helmet is abs plastic or polycarbonate ?

[@Yollo13]

Hello. Thank you very much!! This video is really interesting and helpful! 1 million likes for you!!! And it would be interesting as well to see the video after painting (lacquering, polishing, etc.)

[@jboairbrush]

Haha awesome! 1 millon likes would be super cool lol thank you!! And yes I do also plan on doing a clear and polish video eventually as well!! I'm gunna keep em coming!

[@brycehorbachewski1210]

Hey when sanding is there rule of thumb on pressure used when sanding? And do sanding blocks work well for sanding? Btw your tips vids are awesome.

[@jboairbrush]

Hey sorry for the delay, this comment musta slipped past me! So for pressure I use a bit but nothing crazy, I would say just experiment, obviously more pressure you will go a little faster, but I generally don't press TOO hard and let the sandpaper do its job. Yeah blocks work great but helmets and masks just aren't flat surfaces so I find they're not great for that at all but a soft block you could get away with, but I don't even bother.

[@jboairbrush]

And thanks man!

[@CRYPTfromCATACOMBZ]

amazing, going to check it right after work, keep it up, with ur perfect job

[@jboairbrush]

Awesome thanks! "perfect job"!! Wow that's a lot but doing as much as I can anyway, thanks again!

[@markoutwithmark]

Any tips for doing an Eddie Van Halen "Frankenstrat" paintjob to a Bauer NME goalie mask?

[@jboairbrush]

man without getting too crazy looks like he went black first then masked, then white and mask the next set of stripes, then red.... then beat the shit out of it haha. could sand down a bit to get the wear.

[@shomakie84]

Awesome video! Is pt2 ready? :)

[@jboairbrush]

unfortunately not, the vid kinda didn't do suuuuuper well as i had hoped so I have back burnered these but I am still going to keep going on the series, I just decided to do a few other videos first. I should get on it tho, I know a few people are looking forward to it. Thanks a lot!

[@ReelBigRips]

Thank you so much for the tutorials and walkthroughs of your work. I gotta send a mask to u to paint!

[@jboairbrush]

My pleasure! and absolutely you should do that, heads up I have quite a wait right now but shoot me an email and we can talk about it!! Thanks! [e-mail]

[@ReelBigRips]

Cool man sent you an email

[@jboairbrush]

@@ReelBigRips Awesome!!

[@ryanbarkley6497]

Awesome stuff man

[@jboairbrush]

Thanks again brother!!

[@Smashing_Design]

Hi Great video, and amazing work! I just had a friend bring me his kids helmet. I've never done one before. It's got graphics all over it already. Would you sand those completely off, or just take the shine off? Thanks alot, and thanks for the great videos!

[@jboairbrush]

yeah just take the shine off, maybe make it smooth if there are any edges from masking or anything. If it was painted a long time ago and that paint is holding up I would say you can trust it.

[@goviktor]

Thanks ! Useful video ! Thank you very much!!!

[@jboairbrush]

you are welcome again!!

[@manuelmarzinek3290]

Great Video! Thanks alot! Where is the second Video you were talking about for priming?

[@jboairbrush]

thanks so much! 2nd video will be coming eventually, I have such a back log of other footage I'm just slowly getting around to it, but it will be coming!

[@manuelmarzinek3290]

@@jboairbrush thanks alot for your response. No big deal... I am just so looking forward to it! Please keep up the good work and let us enjoy more of your great work please! 👍

[@jboairbrush]

@@manuelmarzinek3290 Awesome! you are very welcome and I will definitely keep em coming!!

[@calgaryroks]

This vid is great!! I've been following your stuff on Instagram for quite a while. I've recently become inspired to do a motorcycle helmet for an upcoming charity's silent auction and your youtube channel was the first place I knew I needed to check out. As an inspired newbie, are there any tips tricks or suggestions for doing motorcycle helmets? I'll be sure to tape off the DOT label for sure. Also, if I have printed images of what I want to put on the helmet, how do I transfer that onto the helmet so I can cut out the pieces? I guess this will be covered more in your second part of this video, but I figured I'd ask. Any insight would be greatly appreciated it!!

[@jboairbrush]

thanks so much man!! well there's so much info to give here haha, besides telling you to watch my other videos, it looks like you are in calgary correct?? Why don't you give me a call sometime, just look up my business number and I'll tell ya anything you wanna know!!

[@joverdorff4277]

Hello, how do you ensure that the colors you use are the exact colors of the teams? For example, if you need to use the Maple Leafs blue, how do you match the color? Thanks

[@jboairbrush]

You can actually look up the pantone color and an automotive store can mix it for you. Other than that I just mix by eye.

[@thyneshgunaselan4043]

Hi Jordon, can this methods be applied for cycling helmets?

[@jboairbrush]

Thynesh Gunaselan yes totally! Just make sure it’s plastic and not like rubber or the foam parts. Basically same prep process I use for everything.

[@thyneshgunaselan4043]

@@jboairbrush ok. thanks alot bro.

[@jboairbrush]

@@thyneshgunaselan4043 right on! good luck!

[@willhouse7976]

Great video... I love break down. I'm new to this kind of work never done it before.. u able to send me a link to part 2 or a video were I can tape and paint..?

[@jboairbrush]

Hey there! Thanks so much! the next part of the vid is not up yet so I guess just follow along and as soon as I have edited the prime / paint vid you will get it! the Venom one and the Black Panther vid both have a ton of information as well!

[@Jimk435]

@@jboairbrush not to bug, but do you know when the next video will be up?

[@willhouse7976]

So the panter video really helped.so the mask I'm doing .km going to use spray cans and this is my first time doing it.plus its already painted and im just doing it over.Do I still have to sand it and prime it aswell.. ?

[@Jimk435]

@@willhouse7976 definitely sand a paint it as well

[@willhouse7976]

@@Jimk435 thanks man.. does it matter what kind of sand paper you use.. or something u recommend?

[@justincarlton]

Old video, but how do you remove the Bauer logos?

[@jboairbrush]

Well you don’t have to remove the Bauer, you just sand it smooth and then once you prime and base you won’t see it anymore.

[@derekdmac]

What do you do with the logos? Sand them off?

[@jboairbrush]

If they are stickers over top of the gel coat / clear coat I just take them off using a heat gun to help. If they are painted and below the gel coat I generally just sand them smooth, not necessarily off. And the primer and basecoat will cover it. Sometimes it’s just a thin layer of paint overtop and as soon as you start wet sanding it you’ll see it disappear. Either way I guess you just want it sanded and levelled and then you will be ready for primer.

[@derekdmac]

@@jboairbrush beauty! Thanks. Just dabbling with some airbrushing... starting to learn as I go along. Thanks for getting back to me. Also nice to see someone local do a Price mask. Congrats!

[@maestroairsoft424]

Any tips on where to buy that "transfer tape" ? I cant find it anywhere where I live... (And most transfer tapes I fing on like amazon, are vinyl)

[@jboairbrush]

or this if you are in canada but I think they also ship internationally www.mapleairbrushsupplies.com/products/paint-mask

[@maestroairsoft424]

@@jboairbrush *insert The Office THANK YOU meme*

[@jboairbrush]

@@maestroairsoft424 hahaha you're welcome!!

[@magnuskoski2596]

Do you recommend using primer?

[@jboairbrush]

Yeah I do, if it is already painted and you trust the paint that is on it, then you technically do not have to. But I usually play it safe and use a plastics primer / sealer and base the mask or helmet before putting my art on it. There will be a video on this process eventually.

[@magnuskoski2596]

JBo Airbrush Thanks! Do you sand the primer after applying?

[@jboairbrush]

@@magnuskoski2596 if you let it dry then yes you'll have to sand or at least scuff it. but I paint whats called 'wet on wet', this is when you put the primer on let it tack dry so leaving it only 15 - 45 mins depending on the clear and then base coat right onto it. this creates a chemical bond which is actually better than an etch bond in my opinion.

[@magnuskoski2596]

JBo Airbrush First of all thank you very much for the answers! Sorry about asking so much, but I’m having problems painting the mask. My paint doesn’t seem to stick too well and the thinned paint (basic acrylic) is coming out way too light. What could be the causes and solutions to these?

[@jboairbrush]

@@magnuskoski2596 So did you prime and base the mask first? If so after it dries you can scuff it a bit with a scotchbrite pad. also the real problem is probably that you are using paint that Isn't really meant for this application. If you want to use water based shoot for an automotive brand like auto air or wicked something like that. That is probably the source of the problem I would guess.

[@Triad3DStudio]

You can probably get those CSA stickers made cheap from China that way if you do screw one up you can replace it

[@richardhcarter]

Helmets in Canada do not expire. There is an expiry date but it is not recognized. In the U.S. however it is, you will not be allowed to play with an expired helmet IF they check. If they go check and the sticker is gone or expired, you can't play.

[@ryano.8768]

The US is much like Canada where it is not enforced at all. When I went through the reffing course only the most senior refs even knew about the goalie helmet sticker rule and none said they enforce it. I know a few goalies with sticker less helmets they got painted and they’ve never been checked.

[@davidmcmillan4381]

The current CSA and HECC certifications are invalid if Vinyl or paint is applied to Poly-carbonate masks. If a mask is made of Fiber Glass or Carbon Fiber you can customize it without losing the certification. No one seems to enforce that however, but if you get injured, there might be an issue.

[@jboairbrush]

yeah... thats that grey area haha

[@francoisjutras5557]

Where you the material ?

[@jboairbrush]

links to the materials are in the description if that's what you mean??

[@teamgb6611]

Im sending u a mask soon just waiting for my money to save

[@jboairbrush]

sounds awesome! hit me with an email if you want a quote or to find out about my line up! thanks!!

[@francoisjutras5557]

Are you in Great Britain ?

[@jboairbrush]

@@francoisjutras5557 I am not!!! I'm in Canada actually! Calgary Alberta!

[@francoisjutras5557]

@@jboairbrush Ok ! So, this question was for Team GB.

[@jboairbrush]

@@francoisjutras5557 oh!! haha yes that makes more sense!!