I like the Calepari vowel diagram. It seems to be more compatible with Danish than the unmodified IPA vowels. Danish has its own phonetic alphabet ("Dania") which fits the language, but it's my impression that many IPA vowels need diacritic to be correct. (and some times the difference is really noticeable, especially with the a sounds and the e) This diagram seems to more easily capture Danish vowels.
@ConlangKrishna6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Canepari system has its advantages, especially for languages with many different vowel qualities (like Danish), and for comparing dialects, that often only differ slightly in their vowel qualities. Unfortunately, Canepari's system does not seem to be used much in the scientific world...
@robertmaendeleo47714 жыл бұрын
Your lessons are really inspiring
@ConlangKrishna4 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍
@lslane54057 жыл бұрын
Nice video! The ɶ sound (number 12) does seem to be really rare, but it occurs in Austrian German, in words such as 'Seil' and 'weil'. A person who speaks with a 'well-educated' Viennese accent (I like to call it 'high Austrian') is unlikely to produce this sound, but people with a strong accent (and often living on the countryside) will produce this. Sources: IPA handbook and living in Austria :)
@espositogregory3 жыл бұрын
While making a script for s conlang, I tourd with a system which acted as though “vowel” was a single letter which possessed slight non-diacritical changes to describe the manners/places of articulation progression.
@katemctaggart50854 жыл бұрын
These videos are great, thank you so much! I feel like you will get me through the ear training part of my Speech Therapy training :)
@ConlangKrishna4 жыл бұрын
I am glad I can be of help 😊
@wangsiyue37946 жыл бұрын
OMG!!! Thank you sooooo much for explaining vowel production!!! I've always had a hard time differentiating and producing these sounds!!!!
@johannesh76107 жыл бұрын
Very good summary and you pronounce them all! Helped my a lot (we try to create a new language and are looking for vowels as a first step). I'm glad to have found those tables (especially the last one lists interestingly many vowels) Thanks!
@aprenderfalando40713 жыл бұрын
Finally I found who explain in the way that I understand. Thank
@lawrenceleung16505 жыл бұрын
Congratulations to Krishna for your excellent and admirable work!
@mauroncard4 жыл бұрын
What an awesome job! Congrats!
@TheZenytram3 жыл бұрын
WHY IPA dont use the last chart. it makes a whole lot more sense than that skewed mess they use.
@ulfr-gunnarsson3 жыл бұрын
First, because Canepari's system is not very compatible with computers (there are many characters that are not present in any Unicode sets); Second, there are enough diacritics in the official IPA to describe vowels closely enough, so Canepari is basically reinventing the wheel with all his weird symbols. Plus, IPA is actually just a system to write pronounciation independent from orthography of a given language (if it has one).
@MrMirville Жыл бұрын
The Œ sound is frequent in the French of Quebec.
@glossy-jimin3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'm an aspiring language learner but I have some difficulty distinguishing between sounds. This opened up my eyes a little 👍
@Darihmaster6 жыл бұрын
Wow. I subscribed, Thank you very very much!! This videos is really good and I like that you pronounced each sound, it really helped me!
@user-bf6vg3tm5o5 жыл бұрын
Good video, thank you! Help me a lot.I really hope more examples of each vowel.As a foreigner I can hardly recognize the different between them.
@henriquequintana21433 жыл бұрын
Ótimo!!!!!
@ellyeyeimo4383 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very helpful
@leelomchen31193 жыл бұрын
fantastic
@koveek3 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel! But it seems that you haven't uploaded anything since the last year. :/ You make very interesting content, which I was looking for, for a really long time. I hope you'll come back :^)
@mahdehassan97025 жыл бұрын
Fantastic sir
@fcp5364 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! Bravo
@FannomacritaireSuomi3 жыл бұрын
Playing with phonetics sounds messy but it's interesting as hell! I study phonetics at the university and totally love it
@ConlangKrishna3 жыл бұрын
And Eurovision can be a great source of examples of rare languages!
@funkchi6 жыл бұрын
Ha, Chinese and Korean have that central vowel 17. I don't know if it's a common vowel, but not many Non-Chinese or Non-Korean speaker could get it right.
@ConlangKrishna6 жыл бұрын
Bird Aqua True, it is quite rare, but also appears in some Slavic languages like Russian or Polish. Some languages use a vowel between 16 and 17, like Turkish.
@jellosapiens72616 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Korean 으 is often realized somewhere between 16 and 17. It's sometimes transcribed with the ipa character ɯ̽ to show that it's between the two, but to my ears it definitely feels higher than ɯ̽.
@altf42186 жыл бұрын
The Romanian lettter â has a similar pronunciaton.
@quantumsoul34956 жыл бұрын
@@altf4218 and î
@sajans81496 жыл бұрын
wonderful
@skeptic7814 жыл бұрын
7:23 some speakers of swedish use that instead of the one above which I personally tend to use. I don't find it weird though
@Pat-Van-Canada2 жыл бұрын
like colours on the colour wheel !
@ConlangKrishna2 жыл бұрын
That's a great comparison! ❤
@ramzy-65662 жыл бұрын
we hope more video, you can update some.
@pm712416 жыл бұрын
And 12 occurs often in Danish. Like in "smør" - /ˈsmɶɐ̯/ , butter.
@CrazyLeiFeng4 жыл бұрын
Are the vowels from the Capenari diagram mapped against English words in RP or GA in any book or website?
@ConlangKrishna4 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure, Canepari has compared different dialects of English. You can find lots of free material in his webpage: www.canipa.net
@CrazyLeiFeng4 жыл бұрын
@@ConlangKrishna Thx
@asifanowar4237 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a nice video..I have a question .. that is how can I know whether I'm pronouncing the IPA vowels correctly?? And how do I know that how much do I need to open or close , spread or round my lips a particular vowel sound??
@nanalang76656 жыл бұрын
Asif Anowar i beleive there is a tool called “praat” that can listen to your voice and tell you what vowel you’re making... i’m not sure how hard it is to use though (i’ve never used it myself). Might be worth a try
@damienliles53874 жыл бұрын
@@nanalang7665 I checked into your tip. Turns out Praat is an audio transcription tool where the user can easily write in where each sound starts and ends. It actually doesn't do the transcription / sound analysis for you. Instead, you could check out this "IPA Chart with Sounds" page. www.internationalphoneticalphabet.org/ipa-sounds/ipa-chart-with-sounds/
@pkREX243 жыл бұрын
I don't really get how the tongue positioning works. Is it referring to the tip? the whole thing? what?
@ConlangKrishna3 жыл бұрын
With vowels, it is the whole tongue that moves. This usually happens unconsciously. Here is a link to the Encyclopedia Britannica article that shows different tongue positions. You can pronounce these words and try to feel the position of your tongue while doing this: "Phonetics - Suprasegmentals | Britannica" www.britannica.com/science/phonetics/Suprasegmentals
@user-sp4if8vc8t6 жыл бұрын
Where can İ find out the Lower-Mid with Back-Central vowel sound? Note: See on 8:04
@ConlangKrishna6 жыл бұрын
I did not add that sound, because it is very difficult to tell apart from its neighboring sounds. A non-rounded LMBC vowel would probably be perceived as an [ǝ]. A rounded LMBC vowel sounds almost the same as an [ɔ]. I do not know of a language that has one specific LMBC phoneme.
@user-sp4if8vc8t6 жыл бұрын
OK! thank u.
@Drazzz275 жыл бұрын
Lower Mid Back Central (in CanIPA) can be found in Romanian. It is designated by the letter "ă" (in stressed position, unstressed "ă" may sound more centralized, like /ə/) . You can listen to an example word "ăsta" on forvo: forvo.com/word/ăsta/#ro or cărți: forvo.com/word/cărți The rounded version of this sound could be found in French 'bonnet' in neutral accent (according to Canepari's criteria), but it can be pronounced differently in mediatic Parisian and other accents, so I'm personally not sure if I would be able to actually recognize it and not confuse it with other sound on the recording. The one on forvo sounds about right. You can also listen to the name of the Igbo language in Igbo, it should have the same sound: forvo.com/word/igbo/
@dailyfrench2 жыл бұрын
3:01 sounds of the vowels
@louiserocks16 жыл бұрын
The oe (joined together) to me sounds exactly the same as the vowel in bird, hurt
@ConlangKrishna6 жыл бұрын
Theoretically, the vowel in "bird" is [ɜ], so it is less rounded and more central than [œ], so for [œ] the lips are rounded, for [ɜ] they are not. If you ask me, the difference is not a big one, especially in fast speech. ;-)
@ulfr-gunnarsson3 жыл бұрын
@@ConlangKrishna Actually, (according to known British linguist and phonetician Geoff Lindsey) there is an /əː/ sound in words like bird, nurse etc. in modern British English, not /ɜ/. Plus, some broad Australian and New Zealand accents (and even few British accents) actually do pronounce /œː/ or /øː/ in place of /ɜː/ or /əː/.
@slottraducoesbr29294 жыл бұрын
/æ/ is very hard. (My native language is portuguese Brazil)
@skeptic7814 жыл бұрын
It's hard for me and English is my native language. My Northern Irish accent uses the a vowel Instead
@ngochongnguyen33795 жыл бұрын
😍😍😍😍😍
@jpzhang82902 жыл бұрын
Wonder if these vowels are pronounced differently in concrete languages, say English or French?
@gide54892 ай бұрын
Nasal sounds?
@grumpino82465 жыл бұрын
the pronunciation of [e] is wrong, i think.
@yodamaster4453 жыл бұрын
@Danilo Croce Italian e is [e̞], german e is [e]
@ulfr-gunnarsson3 жыл бұрын
@@yodamaster445 Actually, German /e/ is a bit hiɡher, than a cardinal /e/, so it's more like [e̝] (i.e. it's closer to /i/).
@lizardstank3 жыл бұрын
2:50 Do you know dah way
@atadcy48824 жыл бұрын
Omg it all sounds the same 🤯
@ConlangKrishna4 жыл бұрын
True, many vowels are very close to eachother. And no language has them all. Practice, practice, practice. 😉
@nguyennhuoclam105 Жыл бұрын
Hướng dẫn chơi đi
@tomkot5 жыл бұрын
ɶ is actually not so weird, it occurs in Swedish words like öra en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_front_rounded_vowel
@the_biblioklept25334 жыл бұрын
Tom Kot It is weird. It's only in 3 languages
@ulfr-gunnarsson3 жыл бұрын
@Tom Kot I guess, he meant that [ɶ] is quite rare as a phoneme. In case of Swedish (and Norwegian) [ɶ] is an allophone of /œ/ before /r/.