How to Properly Cleat A Line - the way we learned on tall ships and other vessels with heavy loads

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@aquavitasailing2855 3 жыл бұрын

Question for you (great demo, BTW): how do you start the hitches when the load is perfectly in line with the horns of the cleat, ie. the turns MUST get pulled under the loaded length of line leading away from the cleat? (I hope that makes sense? You know, when there is no “V”? A good example would be some cleats that are beside non-self tailing winches.)

@MorseAlphaExpeditions 3 жыл бұрын

Ahh yeah this happens all too often. It's poor design on the manufacturers part. They want the cleats to look symmetrical, but unfortunately it screws up the lead.We have the same issue on our stern cleats for docklines. I have no good answer. You could fake the lead by "barber-hauling" the line, but that's not very elegant. You could add some kind of line organizer type fairlead, but that will induce friction. Best solution is to remount the cleat so you have a fair lead -- or a "V" as we demonstrated. I feel your pain.

@gadenhertog 3 жыл бұрын

I can understand a single lock in some cases, but as far as I know, the standard is two locks. It's what I prefer at least. I am curious about your view on the direction of locking; parallel or crossed in relation to the underlying line?

@MorseAlphaExpeditions 3 жыл бұрын

There's really no need for a second lock. I've never heard of two locks being standard. There's no need for any locks at all, except to keep the line from accidentally getting pulled off the cleat. Some tall ships do not allow locking hitches on anything because of the potential for jamming under load. The locking hitch should go parallel to the underlying line. It's a more compact lock, and provides more surface area contact which means more friction, which is what makes all knots, bends and hitches work.

@gadenhertog 3 жыл бұрын

@@MorseAlphaExpeditions thanks for the reply. I asked because you do both in the video. You explain parallel, but then show crossed quite a few times.

@MorseAlphaExpeditions 3 жыл бұрын

Can you tell me what part of the video you are referring to? I want to make sure we are explaining it correctly. We give an example of how NOT to do it. Is that what you're referring to? Please let me know where you saw that crossed example.

@jchase5408 3 жыл бұрын

That’s the best explanation I’ve seen! You clearly say what you’re doing and why you’re doing it,... and it makes perfect sense. I had been taught to do a full turn around the base of the cleat before using the horns,... but as you would expect, it often got pinched. Then, I always did one turn on each horn and then the locking turn as you demonstrated- and while I’ve never had one slip, sometimes the locking hitch was almost impossible to release because of how loaded up it got... now, perfection! Thank you!

@jchase5408 3 жыл бұрын

@@MorseAlphaExpeditions I think gadenhertog is looking at the turns as “crossing”, because they are figure 8’s- but it’s just the final locking hitch that lies parallel.