How to Push Damnation and Start Winning More Consistently | Darktide Heresy/Damnation Guide

[@MisterEtide]

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[@MrLyramion]

Damnation is more accessable than ever. Getting a perfect weapon is in reach of everyone now. So you KNOW it's only you and your own skill that you have to hone and practise.

[@softluxuryone2169]

Would you say your own skill is enough, or do other players matter?

[@haserlitelfl]

@@softluxuryone2169 your own skill matters the most, since you cant control what other players do. A good player should usually carry a team through missions even on the highest tier difficulties

[@Corppi22]

​@@softluxuryone2169 Blaming other players for failures just curbs your own growth as a player. Expect absolutely nothing, be pleasantly surprised if the teammates can handle themselves. In 'tide games you can always solocarry the game. Focus on yourself. When you lose a match, just think about what you could have done differently. Dont bother wasting time on "what ifs" of teammates.

[@azodiack]

You hit the nail right on the head, I don't like playing damnation/pushing up is bcs of all the breakpoints. It makes it harder to use certain off-meta weapons that, while fun, just can't hold up to the scale of enemies in damnation. Ofc part of it is a skill issue, but this video inspired me so ill try to push up into it!

[@MCeeEscher]

Hey, perfect timing for this video for me! I picked the game up at launch and played a bunch, but skill and performance issues held me back from pushing damnation and barebones launch features made me put the game down for a long time. Picked it back up a week or so ago and I'm shaking the rust off, following your awesome build guides, and now I'm feeling ready to make that final push into the actual endgame. Excellent videos as always!

[@Bish0p1]

As someone who just picked up the game again, this video was INCREDIBLY helpful

[@AN71H3RO]

I started to main Ogryn lately and finished my first domination game yesterday. It was surprisingly easy since everyone knew what to do. No one ran off. It was awesome.

[@Zuggaguz]

I just started to play in the new forge update with my friends who had played since launch. I immediately moved on to malice and after I had gotten to know the maps a bit I pushed for going modifier runs. If you can handle hi-intensity shock trooper/hunting grounds on malice you can do regular heresy. After I was getting closer to level 30 I went for heresy and with modifiers. After that it wasnt a big step-up to doing normal damnation runs. Once you have an optimised build and learn the maps, damnation with modifiers becomes feasible as well. Then its already on auric difficulty. Most important thing with specials is to expect that they are always coming for you and play accordingly.

[@Steeltoes_94]

Sitting here attempting to git gud at damnation as we speak! Couldn’t have been better timed!!

[@The_Annatar]

11:15 if you want to speed up taking out the bolt (also works very good for flamer) you can throw a knife as you are taking the ranged weapon out. Its a very good animation skip you have access to.

[@tranjimmy]

Was just about to comment this, spearhead bolt gun is probably the best of throwing knife zealot cause of the animation cancel

[@The_Annatar]

@@tranjimmy as i said it also works with the flamer which is great to switch to shutting down a horde in an instant. its the only weapon i would really use the throwing knives on myself tho, because i actually much rather have a proper nade most of the time and these 2 guns just either lack the range or speed to quickly kill something slightly further away. that said i used to run immo nade and stripped down C(ol)umnus for a very long time (i know its not the best but its funny as hell just sprinting at a group of gunners with it blasting one and switching to melee and slashing away).

[@Dsaberz]

If you play consistent damnation and auric. Playing lower than that feels boring now. Ive been carrying my friend level up and its a snore to the point I just watch anime on the other screen while my friend is screaming and having fun on malice.

[@staxsonsuntoast1639]

how is he your friend if youd rather do something else than talk to your buddy, literally watching something else wishing you weren't in his company

[@danbackslide2957]

Sounds like ur being kind of a shithead to your friend

[@Dsaberz]

@staxsonsuntoast1639 hey as along as his happy I'm happy.

[@kainepeterson6638]

I’m a forever Heresy player, auric and regular. It just feels comfy. It’s the perfect balance of chaos and player power for me. Damnation is a damn good time, and I can finish Auric Damnation, it’s just too much for me with what I got going on. I just don’t have the time to dedicate to really get into that groove of Auric Damnation. I main Ogryn and I’ve been having a blast trying the other classes. I play Ogryn on Damnation and then I play Heresy for everything else. Damnation is wonderful, but it’s okay if you want a chiller experience.

[@KageRyuu6]

Personally, on Damnation the biggest failing point I see is SLIDING, either people don't know how or they don't have a good set up for it so do it rarely. Myself I rebound DODGE to SHIFT with SPRINT, as you can't Sprint and Dodge at the same time anyway, then I moved CROUCH to C so I can use my thumb which would otherwise go unused save for the occasional jump or mantle. As such Sliding can be done far more comfortably for hours on end by HOLDING SHIFT with your pinky then TAPPING C with your thumb. Also notice quite a bit of sub 500 weapons, not a make-or-break situation, as I've done so effectively myself to power level them, but it can be a slight edge missing and thus artificially ramping up difficulty for those not prepared, especially if it's missing quite a bit of the Damage stat.

[@Chizyrascal87]

Damage stat from 60-80 is a few percent in actual damage. It's not that significant. Check in the psychanium. It is surprisingly low impact.

[@olozzob64]

Dying in damnation is normal, everyone have had their fair share of the game director saying fuck you and your team and proceed to spawn 2 bosses near a daemonhost and you get wiped

[@makvelo1001]

Well, you just described my previous near perfect damnation run)

[@olozzob64]

@@makvelo1001 yeah, those moment when shit hit the fan are the best moments in darktide

[@TheHitman267]

Just wanna say, I've been revisiting Malice to grind out assignments, and I'm seeing Specialist waves where 3-4 are popping out simultaneously. Not always, but frequently enough, though that might be specifically on High-Intensity, didn't catch the modifiers cause it was quickplay.

[@somekindadragon3414]

2:38, Damn Straight. 2 Crushers, with Scab Ragers and Hordes, and NO ONE on the team with a weapon that can kill them at range resulted in a wipe.

[@sp4cedr4g0n]

only thing stopping me from playing damnation is that its annoying to play without a maxed out weapon; annoying, but not impossible. ive noticed that with lower weapons increase the time to kill which screws up my rotations leaving me behind plenty of times which annoys me, so im chilling in auric 4's and regular difficulty 4 quickplay to level my weapons and go into damnation prepared

[@Anathema308]

I'm struggling to get a decent level Boltgun. No-one sells a high level one and they're never given as rewards. The only ones to buy are about level 360 or below. Now with the mastery system if you add a blessing etc the item level doesn't increase anymore. What's your advice on how to get a level 500 boltgun?

[@MisterEtide]

You need to empower weapons at hadron in the new system, this will unlock the full potential of the stats on the weapon. You need mastery 15 to reach 400 power, mastery 19 to get 500

[@Anathema308]

@@MisterEtide Thank you so much. I've been wondering what I've been doing wrong 😄

[@Zuggaguz]

And for getting optimised stats on a weapon, if you have a hard time finding one from the vendor deals or from the contract guy is to buy from the first vendor where you get a grey weapon of your choosing for 6k or something along those lines. Just keep on buying those until you get the good stats and then you can just upgrade it with the tech priests, but it's expensive to do it that way.

[@Anathema308]

@@Zuggaguz thanks for the great advice will do 😊

[@RealBimmy]

Nice video but don't you think it's unnecessarily long? You literally just have to attack while holding *block* when damnation is in front of you.

[@MisterEtide]

What lol

[@RealBimmy]

@MisterEtide Just a silly pun. "How to push damnation"

[@MustangGT4]

Super helpful thanks!

[@RPGandFPS]

May I suggest shred + brutal momentum for the axe. That one blessing straight up double/triples its horde clear potential with its ability to cleave on headshot.

[@MisterEtide]

That might be a good recommendation for my players who are still working on their horde clear, personally i never had trouble because the push stab does it well enough, and i love the breakpoints and crit synergies. But if hordes are messing you up its a good pick

[@Redditor6079]

Shred is also a good alternative for crit psykers or crit build zealots.

[@RPGandFPS]

@@MisterEtide Brutal gives you the ability to M1 spam through hordes and small specials/elites. It gets rid of that axe stuck in the head animation that can make it feel clunky.

[@gareth0412]

I'm looking for a psyker build for auric maelstrom. My crit build is very powerful but without a group of ace ogs I just can't find a team to get me to the end.

[@mikeg2092]

Is Heresey High Intensity harder then Regular Damnation?

[@MisterEtide]

Probably honestly

[@softluxuryone2169]

Until gunners spam you as a wall

[@Zuggaguz]

For newcomers I would say ogryn is by far the most difficult class to play as you are an easy target for the AI and you are the least mobile class in the game so your positioning needs to be on point and you need to use the terrain to your advantage all the time. Not to mention the weaponry is not as good in comparison with the other ones on first glance and requires high levels to become efficient.

[@nocturnuh1865]

It’s funny, I feel incredibly comfortable pushing aurics with my zealot and psyker but trying to learn veteran has been rough. I usually just stay at heresy because those matches aren’t my most consistent, ending them from anywhere between 400-900 damage taken

[@reesestefer]

Currently waiting on my keyboard/mouse to come in for my Xbox since it’ll be a lil bit till I get a computer. Xbox Controller *sigh looks at super buff trigger finger* Psyker as primary electric staff is hard to aim, I do decent but still, it can’t compare to KBM setup. However damnation is easier than low intensity heresy since I do need the specialist /elites. I remember I was having trouble with the heresy and sometimes even malice so I was worried about dragging ppl down in damnation but eventually I tried it just to see how bad it was and it was way easier since my toughness/vent was always ready to go lol the other huge thing that helped was ignoring ppl when they tell you to use a different weapon. It’s good to try new builds but I ignored illisi force sword since everyone said to only use Deimos, I finally gave illisi a shot and it’s perfect for my build with dealing with hordes that get to close. (Deimos is great obviously, don’t hate lol yeah yeah dueling sword 😂)

[@DeeDeeCeeCee]

As an Auric player i find that, for whatever reason, heresy is often more difficult than damnation. Often in heresy the AI director goes off the fucken rails and whats supposed to be a T4 mission feels as difficult if not more than an Auric level mission. Maybe Im just unlucky tho!

[@Tehstampede]

Honestly I’ve been feeling the same recently

[@xiledp]

I can vouch for heresy being pretty rough. some games its a cakewalk, others I have lv 30's going down on repeat and I'm fighting for my life

[@Redditor6079]

Could be you Quickplayed into a HISTIG. Also, certain maps are objectively more treacherous than others. Gloriana is full of barrels, places to fall, special spawn locations and has what can only be an atrocious objective marker bug in the final part of the mission. Rolling Steel is just a Sniper's wet dream and there's not much room to maneuver

[@Redditor6079]

​@xiledp yeah, HISTG Heresy will easily be harder than regular Damnation on the same map.

[@Zuggaguz]

On heresy you also get a lot of random players and as mister e said on damnation you find more tryhards which are not just goofing around so that's why it might feel harder.

[@snidesz3521]

Purgation flamer blessings and perks recommendations?

[@MisterEtide]

Increased damage per ammo spent and brittleness or reload speed

[@akujie4821]

You ever get off a huge auric damnation run and then play with a friend that only plays malic and sleep walk through the matches?

[@tessier_ashpool]

give that boy some ladders so you can both play aurics

[@MisterEtide]

Yep its crazy what you can grow and adapt to with enough exposure, better to make them play on auric with you

[@Dac85]

@@MisterEtide Making someone that's on malice play auric damnation is a good way to make that person quit.

[@U.U-lw4ee]

@@Dac85 to make diamond u neēd to aply presure

[@MisterEtide]

I guess if theyre a really casual gamer or something. But if they have any grounding in fps at all they can learn to survive and thrive

[@gregc8831]

I was a heresy main but I found the swap to auric heresy not so much harder and far more fun and rewarding. I psyker main and I find the health increase on mobs at damnation ruin it for me.

[@ragen013108]

Just a quick question is the thunder hammer any good?

[@MisterEtide]

Its difficult to play with because the slow swing speed opens you for attacks

[@ragen013108]

@MisterEtide appreciate it

[@Hurduri]

Why not run Brutal Momentum on the axe?

[@Sol30486]

Thank you mister E will the next guide help me salvage my marriage?

[@magicalmanfromwonderland]

Similar to darktide, you got to learn the nuances. When you hear the "woosh woosh" sounds, you gotta dodge, evade and block, push. Then learning the timing - can you go out with the boys? Is it her time of the month again? Also understanding your weapons, do you go on the offensive if she is raging? Or do you evade and come from her from behind?

[@icardias8639]

The only meta build in marriage is infiltrate, Go invisble when you see the dishes flying.

[@MisterEtide]

Guaranteed

[@makvelo1001]

You just deal with it like with a daemonhost: avoid it, don't provoke and probably be an ogryn with a slabshield

[@8-bitbenzu529]

appreciate the hard work on these guides but you should try and tighten them up a little - bit too longwinded

[@MisterEtide]

I am king of yap

[@streven1331]

Learn how to play without taking health damage. Dodge, block, push, positioning, and listening. Those are the things that seperate medicore players from good players, i.e. able to play damnation vs stuck in heresy.

[@8Ballolol]

rimworld PTSD

[@staxsonsuntoast1639]

its way more satisfying imo to help heresy/ malice lv players than to play damnation with toxic auric lv players

[@loafofbread9400]

Playing with 3 other super high skilled players feels like a dream, when i see people die to just chaff enemies or the singular crusher overhead i already wanna leave the game

[@townwitchdoctor5538]

I started a psyker after 700hrs and it was pretty interesting to level him up in the lower levels and see people say "Good luck" to the team at the start like we weren't going to just breeze through.

[@CubeBizz]

Spoken like a bad player who gets yelled at in real difficulty

[@syckray]

These guys complaining about damnation... Good luck on auric lol

[@U.U-lw4ee]

big tip if u want to actualy get better at this game avoid perma smite lobbies like plague,because if u keep playing with perma smiter you will learn nothing and just extend noob phase longer ,or if u are perma smitter switch build to actualy learn game mechanics and carry like a boss.

[@icardias8639]

Meanwhile in pub Auric smite os obrigatóry, not everyone have a pre made group , even normal damnation high intensity smite saves run, off course you dont need for trash but when a Lot of crushers appears is important

[@U.U-lw4ee]

@@icardias8639 its not, what it means you are not very good at this game, cause i play pub only Quick play auric maelstrom or normal misions and i win most of time, and lose only when i get bored and start to Rush to much into crazy action and try to solo evrything. Im most of time top at score board removing specials, disablers crushers etc as much as posible for my team, thats how u win and get better at this game

[@icardias8639]

@@U.U-lw4ee well your pubs are better than Mine than what servers are you playing? Because Mine They ALL have Auric tags in theirs name a suck ass... And i bet you cant solo clutch....

[@U.U-lw4ee]

@icardias8639 brotha āre u top score in your games? My games have bad players aswell and i ress them multiple times, some games āre if i make a mistake and get downed its a wipe cause im keep ing team alive. I play in EU. I can solo with bots damnation have not tried yet auric solo, just today downloadēd mod for solo play.all im saying if u keep playing with smiters u Will not get better at this game, i got a lot better when i stopped playing with them.

[@U.U-lw4ee]

@@icardias8639 cmon lēts play together show me how u play

[@icardias8639]

Damnation ia easy while high intensity is superbroken the director Góes banana and everyone pânic , run while They need to stand and eliminate targets, and its a wipe

[@stcl-k6w]

rather than wasting time in psykanium that doesn't actually offer any real value I play heresy on normal to try out new builds weapons ect you'll soon find out if it translates to auric use. just switched back to cleavers on ogryn s long as someone deals good crusher damage in the team .

[@MisterEtide]

Thats right, dont get caught up in testing every last variable, go do runs and focus on the skills here

[@U.U-lw4ee]

@@stcl-k6w psykanium is good to learn solo boses, or learn how to use heavy sword parry,or solo crusher pack, ragers pack, mixed pack etc and then apply it in auric.

[@christinecole8009]

​@@U.U-lw4ee ohhhhhhh yeah I absolutely forgot to mention that you're absolutely right on PC I'm on xbox and can do nothing in the psykanium pretty jelly about PC mods

[@curtis098]

I agree that going into matches to learn is good, and will generally get you the most bang for your buck but I wouldnt completely write off the psykanium. An example of its value is learning what your breakpoints are at different levels of stacks. If you know it takes exactly two stabs to drop a rager then you dont waste time going for a third one. An individual instance of this is no big deal sure, but if you waste a quarter of a second on each of your 200 kills thats effectively a minute of just standing there.