Ogryn strong! Why nobody play? How find good builds? | A Big-picture look at Darktide's BIGGEST boy

[@FireAnt]

Thanks for the Ogrynomicon callout, glad to hear you enjoyed the builds - each was tested quite heavily by rolling it /many/ times through Auric Maelstrom to make sure it clicks. We keep it updated every patch so it will stay relevant for a looong time :)

[@MisterEtide]

You guys are insane, that thing represents so much work, trying to collate ONE build’s worth of info is a task in itself.

[@Ragnarok633]

Thank you for that. I am an average skill player at best so ogrynomicon helped me get my builds and weapons in order where I feel pretty comfortable rolling into damnation now. Hoping to start doing Auric Maestroms pretty soon. Ogryn is by far my favorite class because even when you build full gunlugger you're a wrecking ball in melee and if you go full melee, you still get the biggest guns. Now if only Fatshark would buff the B O X and GW would let ogryns have more weapon types. Because my big boy wants more smashy tools to play with.

[@dtrgilmore]

Ogrynomicon is a godsend. Only recently got back into the game since the rocky launch. The content is expertly presented and easy to understand. Awesome stuff.

[@TheBryanrice1991]

Yeah, Ogrynomicon is decent, but sometimes the info isn't super accurate, but it is what it is. Like, for example, Toughness Regeneration Speed is hot garage & yet they still gave it high ratings. Watch Tanner Lindberg's video on it that proves it.

[@sandisliker]

i gotta say, out of all the four classes, ogryn is definitely the biggest

[@wildcardftw]

Truuueeee

[@Robert-fr9wl]

:D 😀 😍 🤩 ☺️ 😃 😀 😍 🤩 ☺️ 😃 😀 😍 🤩 ☺️ 😃 😀 😍 🤩 ☺️ 😃 😀 😍 🤩 ☺️ 😃 😀 😍 🤩 😢

[@acord4601]

@@sandisliker very ogryn comment

[@VampiricTyrant]

One of the classes of all time

[@Robert-fr9wl]

@@VampiricTyrant 😢😢😢

[@grubi450]

Elevator conversations with ogryns are one of the best things about this game, It's sad that the number of ogryn players drops sharply in auric games

[@priamneville5899]

True and baffling, since Ogryn is VERY useful in Aurics. If someone is downed in Aurics, it's rare anyone but the ogryn can get them up :(

[@thunder2434]

One game I played Ogryn (I regularly play it on low- to mid difficulty to help newer payers as Ogryn) the AI director went insane and poured out endless hordes and specials and seeing the ocean of heretics facing us, filling the halls, the inexperienced little ones cried and despaired and wanted to quit but Ogryn say "NO Emphra is Wiv us no give up". So they stayed and clung together weathering the storm behind the big abhuman rock. They became my babies in need that I carried all the way to the drop ship. Ogryn got many cheers and rations that day.

[@Robert-fr9wl]

Graaaaaaahhghhhhhh😫 protect the Lil unns!!!!!! 😠

[@coffee0093]

I didn't expect it, but I think ogryn is my favorite class. Especially with the ogrynomicon, it made grasping what's good for skills and weapons really easy

[@MisterEtide]

I certainly understand why ogryns are so committed to their class. It plays like nothing else, its so fun to control the battlefield like they can, just slappin everyone around

[@maratnugmanov]

4 Health Ogryns with Bully Clubs and Brittleness Rippers is what carries Karnak Twins secret hard mode.

[@MisterEtide]

Yeah ogryn slaps bosses to death real fast. Its all the damage taken increases, and the burn talent on barrage is insane

[@troller9838]

Ogryn is probably the easiest class to carry with, I've dragged the worst team mates imaginable through damnation missions with my Ogryn.

[@acord4601]

The slab shield also allows you to pull all non elite shooters to you by blocking their shots. The ai stops shooting and walks to you allowing you to clear a horde of shooters by just blocking their shots

[@MisterEtide]

Yes thats just one of many reasons i consider it S tier. Such a solid weapon.

[@kainepeterson6638]

I started as a big boy and I remain a big boy main, it’s my favorite class in the game. I’m glad you’ve realized the power of stacking toughness on Ogryn. It’s just so good. It gives you that space Ogryn needs to eat the ranged attacks and close the gap. Ogryn as the anchor for the team is the way to go. Keep the trash and mid-tier enemies off your battle buddies, and the team will be able to cover the rest. Attention Seeker also has a unique interaction with the slab shield against low-tier shooters, where blocking their shots causes them to pull out their swords or axes and charge you. Which is the absolute wrong thing for them to do lol. I have played missions where I pop my shield up around a corner, all the shooters target me, and then I crunch em because they’re basically just fodder at that point. No Pushover is also a comically hilarious solution to the “Armor Clown Car” where you get 5 crushers and 10 maulers suddenly spawned in the horde. Push them all at once and the stagger is so strong all of them go flying, giving you and your team the space they need to krak, brain burst, krump, or crit the carapace armored enemies away. It’s great but not worth sacrificing for if you have a good build going. For the Emprah, sah!

[@Greamzih]

To each each own. As some who has played several hundred hours of psyker before really getting into ogryn gameplay, I think the only thing you miss by maining the ogryn is the shift in perspective when playing him. To become the same size as a crusher and kill him with one pickaxe headshot after so many hours of perceiving him as a big monster is just unbelievable. Other than that, ogryn is a super fun way to experience the game. Kudos to all ogryn players!

[@OrAngelicBlitz8633]

13:50 Soften Them Up is activated on any melee hits you land on enemies. So each hit makes the enemy take 15% more damage from anything after the initial hit.

[@MisterEtide]

Yeah, what did i say? Cus thats what i meant

[@OrAngelicBlitz8633]

Because it's easy for people to think it applies on any hit, I wanted to just reinforce it. To hit it right on the nose.

[@AN71H3RO]

I main Vet but dipped into the big boys a bit lately. Your content is very helpful for protecting the little ones. Thanks for that. You got a new subscriber.

[@samfish2550]

WELCOM TO DA TEAM SAH!

[@saloonplay8510]

I love my Ogryn so much ! It's the first class i played when the game was released on Xbox and i struggled a lot to go use the other classes. It was the first one i got to level 30 and legendary gear. I love it so much, its really powerfull and i'm able to be pretty good and usefull even in Auric. I do what Ogryn are supposed to do and my built being focused so much on the Kickback, people always tell me that i will be useless. But at the end of the game, when im the only one who didnt went down and i helped them countless times, they are always glad they had me on their team ! 😅 Honnestly my biggest issues with Ogryn are that he has really only 3 build (Tank/Melee Bleed/Gunner) and very few weapons so the gameplay is pretty much the same no matter what. That sucks honnestly and it sucks even more when you know what Ogryn have in the lore. Stuff like the Powerfist, rocket launcher, glaive, etc... I sincerely hope that it will receive some love in the next update considering that the other classes have all got some sort of overall. :/

[@terryeubanks8797]

When I first loaded the game and had to pick a character, I saw Ogryn and knew he was it. Big man, big gun, big stick. Perfection.

[@Vinicius-Bigode]

My old main, really reliable guy, but with the lack of variety between weapons and builds (plus I saw a zealot blitz through the map with no help needed, so I felt equally amazed and useless) I had to switch up.

[@Velothi]

Didn't expect the Katamari Damacy soundtrack.. that lonely rolling star brings me back to simple days.

[@CaptainFalcon07]

You caused me to change up my builds for vet zealot and ogryn for the better I think, thanks sir

[@hoodiesoup]

Gotta say, love this series. Good breakdowns, good explanations. I appreciate the lack of scripting. You’ve been on the grind lately, and it’s very inspiring. Keep it up, brother. ❤

[@MisterEtide]

Ive got a lot to say and FINALLY people will listen to me!!

[@HansGrub]

I appreciate your note about the lack of play time with this class and to take your advice with a grain of salt. There's definitely some notes you highlight that suggest you haven't tinkered much. For example, Lucky Bullet is terrific for Rumblr and Kickback in addition to the Stubber and Ripper guns. I have builds for all four weapons and am over lvl 250. For Rumblr and Kickback specifically, Lucky Bullet procks at least twice every time I use Point Blank Barrage. Sometimes it procks back to back; thus two free shots.

[@c4tchxxii867]

Ogryn heavy attack bleed slab build is my second favorite way to play this game.

[@ulookmadd7949]

Big improvement from the Psyker video. This feels more like a breakdown of the class rather than a diss. Keep up the content. ❤

[@ulookmadd7949]

Ps. Would love a breakdown of each staff for the Psyker with their correlated perks.

[@OrAngelicBlitz8633]

Any ogryn weapon's push will halt whatever a rager or mauler is doing at any time. Not all ogryn heavy attacks will stagger them in the same way. Not all specials are as consistent as ogryn pushes either. Ogryn pushes are the best. 👍

[@jakeogroton]

A good thing about pained outburst is that it allows you to break out of dog grabs

[@bigmclargehuge1170]

katamari soundtrack rules so hard.

[@samfish2550]

Something that would be nice is maybe a perk on the burst limitor overide like giving you a bit of ammo back on ability activation once every x seconds. Just something that makes it consistent. That and maybe toughness on close, and I mean CLOSE range shooting. Just to make up for the lack of heavy swing toughness.

[@Minaraho]

Thanks for your help with the builds. Your suggestions were the little extra punch I needed. I’m not used to fighting bosses with melee as a vet but I’m working around that. Also with that recon lasgun build, you were right about Survivalist being a little overkill. I usually knew what I did wrong when I ran out of ammo l. If you’re careful with your shots you don’t need to get survivalist.

[@MisterEtide]

Awesome! Yeah i love little optimizations like that, ending a game with just barely enough ammo means you didnt waste a talent on survivalist. However, your team may resent you slightly 😅

[@spanner5940]

i think its because the lack of build diversity. the melee weapons all have the same defensive stats (4 dodges and a bunch of stamina) so other than the dps output it just feels generic. even the shield has the same dps to the other one handed weapons. the pickaxe was a good start but we need a lot more. he is slow and hard to hide with so the golden rule of gaming is mobility and dodging are the most selected for in high level play. the toughness sources in the skill tree is in DESPERATE need of a rework. in melee you are forced to either use heavy attacks with most melee or the knife with confident strike blessing to stay alive. in ranged play either you use the reaper blitz or the kickback and anything other that that is going to get you shot to pieces. other than that the bottom part of the skill tree is has its utility biased into one or 2 talents with the rest being far far too niche, especially compared to the amazing stuff you can find in the bottom skill trees of the other classes. so, what does the ogryn need? well first it needs to have its toughness regen moved away from heavy attacks, and id recommend adding toughness replenishment on stagger. worked wonders in VT, so its a guaranteed W for darktide. next, the ranged weapons need a touchup, so the kickback needs to be brought down and the rumbler/ripper guns need brought up. some ammo and recoil tweaks respectively. then, they should just slice the bottom half of the ogryn skill tree off and rework it from the ground up (they did a similar thing with psyker so its not unreasonable) but im fine with just a moderate overhaul. finally i would like to have acess to a sort of "iron halo" effect from SM2 if you do something good, like kill an ogryn/boss enemy for a couple seconds. something that rewards taking on the big stuff and tanking the small stuff.

[@bigsmoke167]

When are you not going to be using heavy attacks for most of the weapons? Knife is like the only weapon where you want to actually use the lights

[@spanner5940]

@@bigsmoke167 yes I said exactly that

[@bigsmoke167]

@@spanner5940 It would make NO sense to not have a keystone built around heavy attacks since heavies are the only attacks worth using on every weapon but the knife, and even then the knife still uses heavy attacks a ton

[@samfish2550]

Das a lotta words Sah! Makes me implant burn sah.

[@x2626x]

I feel itchy, hope it's not worms again....

[@affliction906]

Pick axe push stab is elite, was the game changer for crowd control

[@gmanking19]

Playing a Zealot I feel like a mosquito with Malaria, playing Ogryn I’m a shark in a water park

[@TheLuckyemil]

Dude, that fucking background music. I can't take it.

[@GrahamUnis]

Ogryn is very strong tbh, one of my favorite classes to play but the weapons could benefit from new flavors

[@saintpoli6800]

I personally roll health curios, with the +5% on each, then +5% toughness on them too. I only have the 20% health curios, haven’t found a 21%, so my max HP with skills too is 570, my toughness is 150. I’ve out survived several instances I shouldn’t have, and saved a wipe due to how beefy he is. I’ll always recommend health over toughness curios. Can even drop the toughness boosts and swap it for revive speed, combat ability boost, mutant resistance, or stamina regen for blocks/pushes/sprint. Biggest issue I have with Ogryn is the lack of weapons. In terms of what feels useful and effective, it’s only 2- the shield and the pickaxe. Guns are okay, but definitely want more weapons Edit: Another major boost with the HP is even at half HP, I’m typically sitting with 300+, so I can allow my teammates to stay topped up while I’m still okay with health. Lil economy saves

[@TheBryanrice1991]

I'm very lucky to have three 21% Health Curios with 5% health on all of them, plus all health nodes on tree. My total health adds up to 579 with everything altogether. I run Feel No Pain & am a tanky boy... I don't go down anymore & my Toughness is around 150 which is plenty IMO. I find that going over 200+ Toughness is work to get it back up to full toughness. I found in my 1000+ level Ogryn that Health reigns supreme still even if toughness is the meta. Ogryn regenerates toughness so fast I don't feel I need 200+ toughness. The max toughness on him is 266 & it was overkill with diminishing returns. Toughness regenerates & health doesn't is how I look at it, plus health to me is like a resource rather. I do make sure everybody else has health before I get any because the pool is so large percentage wise. Stamina regen & combat ability is the best on Oggy, but nowadays I run Stam, Health & Toughness. Yeah, he needs more weapons & the next update apparently he's getting a new ranged weapon supposedly with a flashlight.

[@saintpoli6800]

@ Exactly, you understand heavily how Ogryn works. His weapons do plenty of damage already, so staying tanky and alive is what surprisingly lacks lol. The other day I ran two health curios and one toughness to see- I noticed little to no difference except I had almost 80 less health, while I gained roughly 20 toughness. If you get chipped anyways through toughness, then 80 is a lot better than 20 lol

[@TheBryanrice1991]

@@saintpoli6800 That's the only real good thing about toughness on Oggy is you can shrug off chip damage with more Toughness. But since I dodge slide so much that to me it doesn't matter anymore, plus sometimes I'll throw on Gunner Res. on him if I'm feeling lazy & don't wanna dodge slide a million times lol. I feel that Shield, Feel No Pain with 579 Health is Meta in my eyes on Oggy, I also pick up No Push Over with that 250% more stagger which is kickass. I basically can throw anything to the ground that's not Ogryn sized, like I can throw down like 10 ragers to the ground for example with literally 1 shove. With other classes of course more Toughness is better with Stam. Ogryn is just built differently you just have to tailor your needs to your play style. For me, I'm more of a defensive Oggy. I do also have a mixed build with Point Blank Barrage & FNP which is great too it's a boss, all-round killing machine. It's like the best of both worlds.

[@saintpoli6800]

@ That’s how I feel with my Oggy. I do a blend of damage and defense; Ogryn is heavily loadout based too. If you grab rocks (as you should) you can grab a more horde/boss damager like ripper or twin-stubs, run pick, knife, or bully club, or you can go nuke, shield, rumbler for another balanced loadout. I’m more than excited for weapons and different marks for current stuff on him. I’ve mentioned how I’d like a grenade recharge on him for the right of the tree, obviously make it a long cooldown (and a faster one for rocks with this talent) OR add extra nades/rocks. If vet can rock renewing krak nades and extra nades and boosted damage to them, where he’s holding 3 kraks that can one shot a packed group of specials or 3 K.O bosses, Oggy getting extra wouldn’t hurt considering the right of the tree is the sort of artillery.

[@TheBryanrice1991]

@@saintpoli6800 Rocks are decent on the build I run sometimes hard not to take them. I usually grab Soften Them Up w/box or nuke, I feel it's better than Slam because I pair it with Loyal Protector for the 25% base damage & if you hit them with STU, plus LP it's 40% more damage on anything bosses included. It's nice to have you can melt them like crazy with team & also the rumbler sticky nades. A lot of people really skip these which is interesting. But I totally get that Bullrush has more utility behind it which I don't deny at all. With attention seeker it makes taunt not great just alone, but with Valuable Distraction it's hard not to be tempted by that extra 25% base damage. Yeah, like from ammo pack instead you get a few nades instead of like 1 nuke bomb maybe you get like 2-3 from maybe reworking Vets node... I always wanted them to change this would be nice. The right tree I use Point Blank w/ fire & Feel no Pain taking more the middle at the bottom, so I can be a tanky gunner. It's a great build for sure for boss melting. I'd say it's one of the strongest Oggy builds. Although, I'm more into melee because it's a bit safer at least for me. You sort of run the risk of running out of ammo too, plus I feel like you're not as defensive with that build, but used right, you'll destroy anything...

[@Biffleoptotron]

Ogryn is the only class I've played really, just got back into the game recently (by chance, then saw it was better after those recent updates). Got up to 30 at malice level and rarely die so need to up the challenge and try proper builds as I kind of randomly picked my talents as I levelled up!

[@porkerpete7722]

I have all characters maxed, and Ogryn is my main all day!

[@fishyboy2140]

@@porkerpete7722same! Luv me roks and me pikaxes

[@darkmoonmiracle]

Don’t let Tanner Lindberg bully you away from making content for the game like it seems so many others have been. I truly enjoy your content as a returning player. It’s helped me get through many Auric Maelstrom’s now. Maybe not everyone understands every intricate detail, but I don’t believe you deserve the shade he’s throwing at all. Thanks for doing what you do for this community.

[@MisterEtide]

Oh it doesnt bother me, ive had disagreements about video games before. I want to make content for the majority of people that want to improve their skills and advance difficulties or have better winrates, i know my advice is good because it has worked for me haha. He is focusing on refinement for that upper 1% of the player base, which is also valid. But i cant go around telling console players they can play scriers gaze, thats just not going to end well lol

[@darkmoonmiracle]

@@MisterEtide Keep up the good work man. You’ve brought a great attitude to this community. I’m all here for it. Thanks for your help.

[@doomskunk]

I played a lot with ogryn the only reason I play less with him now, is the weapon variety, he needs some new and fun melee weapons. But in terms of power, I think ogryn is great, heavy attacks all day with the club.

[@samfish2550]

I'd rather see him get some buffs/reworks in melee. Knifes are the only weapons that don't just want to heavy broadly speaking, that leaves a lot of room to try and make the shovels, clubs, and picks feel more distinct from each other. Powermaul feels fine but it's just suboptimal rn. We've gotten a lot of melee weapons, similarity is the problem, but playing with dodge, stam, and speed as well as what attacks they favor could do a lot to make his options feel better.

[@J.B.1982]

Coward culling is great. Enemies will be suppressed easily with Ogryn guns, especially the stubber, not so much with the explosives. As soon as you shoot at a group they will suppress. Not to mention, this applies to all teammates. If you're running with vets and pyskers you're talking about 20% more damage going to enemies often enough (psyker staff shots suppress easily as well). It's better than bonebreaker if you're not dishing out heavy swings all the time and considering how often non Ogryns use heavy attack, teammates may not get that much from it. Toughness regen is near useless. Trick is to not get hit often and constantly be regenning with other means. And even if you lose HP, you'll have so much of it. Even at half health I'll have more or the same as some other teammates at full health.

[@Fissiccisst1]

Man, I love playing Ogryn. I find it interesting that you and I have almost polar opposite weapon preferences(which is a good thing) cause I absolutely love the rippers and cleavers. Though tbf I basically use every ogryn weapon except for Shield and the Grenadier Gauntlet. I feel one of the reasons Ogryn in played less is because it brings a lot of intangibles to a game that people will notice, but not necessarily realize its due to the Ogryn. Enemies taking bonus damage, where did that horde just go?(spoiler, the ogryn ground it to dust while you weren't looking), why is this so much easier? I'm usually surrounded by trash mobs. That sort of stuff The damage taken for example, bosses will just die. And it'll feel way better, but the little 'uns won't know its cause the ogryn gave 30% damage taken. Or appreciate just how much space Ogryns can create. The fact that every ogryn melee weapon has just massive innate cleave and stagger means that hordes just can't get their normal surrounds and oppression as easily. Giving space so Vet can shoot down some gunners, or let the psyker get some staff spells off. Also there's the simple unga bunga factor, when you're supporting and have less kill potential, people find that less fun than being a zealot meat grinder, or head clicker veteran. Thats not to say Ogryn doesn't have kill potential, but you get my meaning. For Burst Limiter override, there's two weapons that explicitly benefit from crit and thats Stubbers with Charmed Reload (Ammo from reserve into Mag on Crit) as you mentioned, but also Rippers with Flachette(Bleed on Crit). But beyond that, the free shots in both feel great. I usually use those with the Rending Point Blank Barrage and I can chew through even Crusher Packs with the 30% rending plus the 10% from the elite kill. Makes all armor an absolute joke. Really fun build. Auric Maelstrom? probably not, but I'm here for a fun time, not a hard time

[@XxXxXGR3GXxXxX]

I started on Ogryn and I always go back to him when I wanna really bully the heretics

[@forgettabledude9064]

A little bit off topic, but what mod r u using that gives the lasgun a scope?

[@Mestari1Gaming]

Ogryn needs more weapons like miniguns and autocannons. Fun weapons that feel good to use.

[@AdamantPetra]

I main vet, but when I run ogryn its usually a gunlugger build, I think burst limiter override wouldnt feel so weak if it didnt seem specifically designed for the stubbers, and even then, the achllys variant is where it shines compared to the other two, imo lucky bullet should trigger based on percentage ammo spent instead of random chance, though that would ruin the point of it being called lucky bullet I suppose 😅

[@AlyxCrouch]

Ogryn was my first class to max level but jeez does my big boy need some more weapons! The light pickaxe has been super fun to play. The range weapons really feel lack luster. I like the grenade launcher and the kickback the most.

[@rodrigolopezmaya5974]

Base Toughness should be more? started a ogryn character this week and felt wacked. maybe he can't get suppresed or if he has full dodge charges: dogs, mutants and trappers can't hold him down.

[@MisterEtide]

Make sure youre getting both +25 toughness at the top of the tree, helps a loy

[@FinalDragoon63]

For some reason while listening to this I was thinking about how neat PoE building and optimization are (especially how two builds for Lighting Strike arose at the start of the league) and Mister E mentioned PoE (in relation to More) and it snapped me out of my trance like oh damn it makes sense he plays PoE.

[@elmhurstenglish5938]

I only just realised his name was Mystery

[@jimmyjames0133]

I'm an Ogryn main, we need more equipment for sure!

[@ozzyspitfire]

Heavy hitter in my experience can only gain one stack per attack so you need to take multiple swings to build it

[@Tehstampede]

Ogryns bring a ton of utility and power to any group. The problem is that they are ugly and have very few weapon options, some of which are just terrible. Last time I played Ogryn I was trying to use that double barrel machine gun, and it felt like I was shooting hopes and dreams with how little damage it did. I don't know if this has changed but goddamn dude that sucked

[@MisterEtide]

With the fastest firing one it basically does nothing without the fire talent under point blank barrage. The gorgonum hits hard but takes forever to setup

[@J.B.1982]

Ripper and Stubber need to do more damage. Ripper is bizarrely weak.

[@ryangray2779]

You missed a great "...when to rock, and when to roll..." pun, but super useful content!

[@armintor2826]

I understand that making content for Ogryn is a hassle because none of it is transferrable between ANY other class in the game, but fuck dude he REEEEAAALLY needs more equipment. Shits got me using the fucking power maul cause everythings so dry rn.

[@RPGandFPS]

For the right tree it is really built around the stubber. The suppression aura is always active with it so it’s a free 20% dmg. The burst limiter w/ the CD and 12% chance means your ultimate will have about a 15-20 cooldown once your ultimate ends. Biggest down side though is you’ll probably use 50% of the ammo on the map. Also I don’t think you mentioned it but the braced toughness regen perk is great on something like a stubber. You just brace your gun and start regening toughness. Also the Loyal Protector ultimate is probably his best ult, especially in a premade since you can pop it on an elite pack or boss and they auto die. But Bull Rush is probably more reliable in pubs because randoms won’t take advantage of it lol.

[@MisterEtide]

For as much as burst limiter advertises giving you free ammo, i feel it is still wayyyy too ammo hungry for what it is. I also agree that taunt is going to probably result in the highest winrate. The higher your skill though, the more you can just absolutely pop off with the charge and solo carry a whole map.

[@RPGandFPS]

@@MisterEtide Thats just gungryn set ups in general. The whole PBB build just eats all the ammo on the map, it’s even worse when not using burst limiter on stubber. Yeah I agree pub charge is the way to go as no one knows what the taunt effect looks like it seems lol.

[@bogwog]

​@@MisterEtide I'd probably argue that in a higher skilled overall group, the taunt gives a bit more value because of the 25% teamwide damage buff and allowing them to play their own game and used ranged without pressure. In my experience when I use taunt everything around just melts under the focus fire of the entire team being able to just do whatever they want and shoot bad guys. But charge and taunt are both very strong.

[@berserkerpride]

I think Ogyrn falls off in higher difficulty because of the excess number of grabbers. You just aren’t going to be as fast and evasive as a spammy knife zealot or veteran.

[@VictusFate]

would it be possible to lower the background music a bit more?

[@MisterEtide]

I can try. I think katamari was just very energetic choice for this video so my adjustments werent strong enough

[@savesthedaystakn]

@@MisterEtide Just wanted to second @VictusFate's request. I'm loving your guides and perspectives on the game, but the background music is mildly distracting at best, and at worst, it's sometimes really difficult for me to concentrate on what you're saying.

[@skibidibapbang5018]

another banger with a banger music gyatdamn

[@lomaev_mvs]

nice rock sah! I almost sub'scribed sah. Good video lil' hooman. Like for this

[@Robonator14]

Burst limiter Override is quite fun for fun sessions. Sometimes you get lucky and you can shoot grenade after grenade without consuming one.

[@farcry1235]

I think part of the reason ogryns tend to roleplay is because everything you do makes you feel like a huge lumbering mass of low IQ when you play it, it's brilliant, it makes you feel like you truly are an ogryn xD

[@Jplane247]

Ogryn has to be played so differently from the others its laughable. Nice call on Crunch being a trap pick holding heavies for 40% damage is worse thrust.

[@thekillingjoke8982]

Ogryn not care bout puny ennies pickin him. Ogryn makes paint from ennies with one hand and clean dishes with other hand. Ogryn chill, not like shouty.

[@Izathel1]

I like the video, but if you are going to give such support to a guide, you should probably post a link in the description like citing a source.

[@timofaust1315]

First match I played Ogryn I got stuck in the map design behind a table. Good times.

[@samfish2550]

Luv ma emera, love ma grub, luv ma job, love me nomi... Noma... Lov ma build book! Simple as.

[@Turnpike04]

I suppose, since ogryn has a small toughness pool, coherency buffs are more effective for them. Coherency tough regen is a static number so increasing that number is more efficient on ogrym than other classes

[@MisterEtide]

Ogryn actually has a good few nodes that give him flat toughness though, so his pool ends up being pretty big. I think the best curio is toughess main/ toughness/hp/stam regen

[@gidthaillest]

Ogryn a lot of fun but out of all of them I’d say he’s got the least amount of styles of play. A lot of fun tho

[@theassassin100]

Heavy Hitter stacks once per hit, no matter how many enemies you hit. I’m grinding the Onslaught penance which requires 5k kills while at 5 stacks 😭 Also, feel no pain gives toughness regen from coherency which is only out of combat afaik. And the damage reduction is multiplicative which makes stacking all of the talents not as good as it sounds sadly. I find feel no pain underwhelming compared to heavy hitter personally. Also another reason for lower Ogryn players could be the fact that they have their own weapons which require grinding everything again 😢

[@GabbeMan123]

To me the frag bomb is more of a failsafe, a get out of jail free card. Have saved so many games by just insta killing like a dozen ragers and other bad shit thats surounding the group

[@thunder2434]

Ogryn together strong!

[@hsiangyuchen4198]

Karsolas Pickaxe is way better off heavy attack horde clear with heavy hitter than light spam. Mk5 ripper snipes just as well as kickback without long reload per shot, and can can opener Carapace and Unyielding.

[@MudaCruiser]

what is the song in the background?

[@loafofbread9400]

i dont play ogryn cause i mainly play pubs and people for the life of them cannot kill long ranged specials on mass, the missions pace comes to a halt cause people get stalled by pox walkers way to hard regardless of difficulty

[@nickbono9186]

Per Weapon blessing deep dives next please!

[@user-mz6sh4uo7u]

what is this song choice

[@elmstlb7894]

Came back after the update to elp the emprah, missed my shield an rock I did

[@U.U-lw4ee]

Ogryn is just very slow and big target.mobility and speed is King in this game.

[@panzercreed5417]

Least played? Man I guess its just by a small margin because I see them everywhere and have them in nearly every match. I've seen the storm survivor name tag on almost none BUT Ogryns. Saw some of the best names too love the big guys.

[@MisterEtide]

I dont have the stats in front of me but you can certainly tell at high difficulties, lobbies are stacked with vets and zealots. Ogryn videos also generate way less views:(

[@thunder2434]

Protect the little ones

[@linkinparkroxx]

I just cant make him work for me, least fun and weakest class unfortunately - but maybe my playstyle is just wrong

[@MisterEtide]

Its a punishing class to play, for sure. The extra hp he gets does not make up for all the extra damage you will take

[@Baka_desu0]

Ogryn's LOVE KATAMARI

[@therottenchihuahua6465]

Oggie need more boom stick, no diffrent gun and stick more fun when smash with new sticks and booms

[@hhrriisstt9367]

what is this music though, very ogryn

[@MisterEtide]

Its katamari damacy! Very ogryn indeed, when you bowl through all your enemies

[@NaturallySelected]

Just very limited weapon variety for ogryn. And alot of the available blessings are fairly useless for them IMO Continuous firing blessings on break action shotty? Direct hit blessings for a grenade launcher? Who decided this!? 😂

[@demonitized6661]

First one to the goat mister es video

[@Deathelement53]

Rock

[@Rhiaxus]

KATAMARIIIIII

[@MustangGT4]

Love these videos, super helpful

[@hatchin]

Katamari! ❤️

[@KageRyuu6]

Me-mem-meme... MEEM virus good yus!

[@ctrl4969]

imma need the song in the background

[@MisterEtide]

Dooo doodoodoodoodoodoodoo doo its KATAMARI DAMACY reroll

[@bigsmoke167]

I can tell you have little to no time on Ogryn cause this video is kinda bad, like saying Stay Close is the best aura was actually painful to hear

[@MisterEtide]

any other criticisms? weird how everyone else agrees with me

[@bigsmoke167]

​@@MisterEtideYeah a lot of criticisms but that would take like 3 paragraphs and nobody wants to read all that. And 'everyone' agrees with you cause they don't know what they're talking about since they are all casuals playing only malice

[@MisterEtide]

It’s based on the ogrynomicon, which i would say is pretty well founded stuff. And yes i make videos for players at all levels not just maelstrom duos. If youre picking out the aura i have to assume theres no worthwhile criticism to be had

[@bigsmoke167]

​@@MisterEtide You say it's based off the Ogrynomicon but I couldn't tell cause you say Box is good and has good damage, they say it's bad and has low damage. You say Frag is weak, they say it's strong. You say Coward Culling is bad, they say it's good. So, in what way is it based off the Ogrynomicon? There's a ton of smaller things too like how you just kind of disregard Towering Presence giving you easier access to teammates' auras. And you also forgot to talk about Reloaded and Ready and Steady Grip

[@MisterEtide]

@@bigsmoke167 i do not say frag is weak, its an A, the other two are S. Not every opinion is theirs, im also relying on lots of experience playing as and alongside them. Also anytime i miss a talent just assume it was an accident, i try to talk about every one at least once

[@Bloodworia]

Ogryn just feels shit to play.

[@JTH-c8c]

Ogryn is strong! Ogryn is best!

[@Neverwas_one]

Ogryns are too big and block my shots, therefore, we should not suffer the abhuman to live.

[@bolducfrancis]

I stopped watching because of the music.