How To Quote For A House Rewire

[@oyleyhands1332]

For those rates I would expect you to have your own site lighting,wall chaser and vacuum

[@jonathanfriedrich2941]

Yeah really dont get it. I am not even an electrician, but bought a good Makita wall chaser just for chasing walls in our house when we rewired it, so that the electician just had to put cables in it. Even for one house it paid off easily

[@artisanelectrics]

It’s also about having to store it, we don’t do many rewires so it’s always been a tool I just don’t have space to keep...

[@oyleyhands1332]

@@artisanelectrics High end prices,should have high end equipment, in your armoury 😁😁😁

[@alexwilliams4673]

Surely you can just chase out with an sds and chisel bits and a load of polythene dust sheets..trug buckets/dust pans ready to catch all the rubble

[@tezzatibbz2278]

@Mike Clarke to be fair those wall chasers are really big,almost as big as a drill 🤣

[@artisanelectrics]

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[@jonathanstephens7804]

I've completed many rewires and a 3 bed usually is about 7-10 days at a steady pace for me and my apprentice. Just completed a 3 bed cottage in 12 days that was stone wall, nightmare runs etc etc. My price was less than 5k for the lot. I do respect your rates its a real eye opener as obviously its working for you so why would you go cheaper. Your yearly profits speak for itself, ignore the haters keep at what your doing mate :)

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks a lot! I think you’re spot on with 7-10 days for a basic rewire!

[@pauljones3580]

What just Labour only I assume

[@mikeselectricstuff]

For stuff like worklights you could probably buy some ebay cheapo ones for the cost of hiring them.

[@stephencunningham405]

Another nice video Jordan. Not many people would discuss how to estimate a job and definitely not telling the price they charged. Quite brave of you good man big thumbs up off me keep them coming

[@joepostle3561]

Nice to have some transparency.

[@blahblah7410]

more examples of quoting jobs please. a job for a consumer unit would be good

[@jimgeelan5949]

Right to the point, no hiding this is how Artisan Electrics do it 💥💥 well done. Follow that you lot 😉more trades should be more upfront

[@ericthekingthekingtheking4842]

Should of got the scottish rewire boys on it pal 🤣 theyd of had that wired in a morning and plastered in the afternoon 🤣 no impact drivers were harmed in the makin of this video

[@burridgeelectricalyourloca2075]

This is how you run a electrical business! profits ,mark ups ,over heads and wages covered . Nearly all electricians are not businessmen and go with what everyone else is doing

[@artisanelectrics]

SO true, thanks for your comment

[@claudiub3679]

I am still surprised how people can come up with quotes of £3500-4k for a full rewire 3 or 4 bed house. I can not understand what you have to do to make money from that.. I am personally avoiding full rewire(unless if is a very important and good client, but still I would be far away from prices listed by some other people..)

[@artisanelectrics]

Good comment

[@rob.1]

They don't make money from it. Scrape a living, selling themselves cheap. A race to the bottom.

[@jontownsend8090]

Really interesting. Working for myself I estimate a rewire to take 3 to 4 weeks. I aspire to run my business to be more higher end so to speak. I always use quality accessories and do the best job I can. Some aspects of the job are unseen, but still the attention and care carries through. Customer service is the most important aspect of everything I do, I want repeat business, I want my business to be a success. I wish everyone out there that same success, we have all had to adapt over the last year, but at the same time, not taking anything for granted.

[@pault4793]

if the customer wants a price for a rewire, its pointless carrying out an EICR and a waste of money for the client, IMO as your renewing all the cable, Even picking up the odd exisitng wires , not a good idea especially if the wiring is really old

[@garethhodson3896]

I like your honesty - occupied rewires are always a nightmare - I would always allow 50% more than whatever your quote comes out at. We only do empty houses now unless I know the customer really well. I wouldn’t have bothered with a chasing machine the apprentice is a lot cheaper. ☺️

[@gmeadowcroft84]

Wow lot of negativity on this lol. At the end of the day the customer was satisfied (its artisan customer satisfaction comes as standard lol) everyone got paid and you made a profit. To me that’s the main thing to take away. Great and interesting video Jordan

[@Elvis_TheKing]

Couldn’t agree more. Cambridge is a wealthy city, there are people willing to pay for the Artisan experience 😁 You won’t find Jordan cutting corners or riding roughshod over basic health and safety... you’re paying for the reassurance of a job well done!

[@UberAlphaSirus]

A tip for conduit and its handy for loads of otherthings. Drill a 5mm hole , bend a riptie in half about an inch and a half from the head. Stick it in the hole and stick a screw in it like its a wall plug. Riptie anything you like to the wall then.

[@stuartandrews4344]

Old stocks of Artex containing asbestos was still being sold mid 2000, despite being banned in 1999,& you be surprised how many things in a older house contained asbestos,it's a long list. And I normally use independent tool hire places, than the big hire names,as I can get a cheaper price rates for hiring.

[@lkm5462]

Everything you said is why I never bid and just do hourly labor and materials. Otherwise I’m required to bid higher just to cover the unknown. As such if I bid high and don’t have as much labor as thought, I’ve done the customer a disservice other wise m the one who pays for underestimated time. No bid , hourly only. I charge 52£ an hour for me and more if there are others. I am an honest person and work hard and give an honest hours work. I am at the high end in my area and it gets rid of the low ball jobs

[@artisanelectrics]

I agree that’s a safe way of doing things! Normally customers want to know how much something is gonna cost though so it’s difficult to do it that way.

[@montystelevision3238]

I’d pay the extra for an Artisan rewire. I’d suspect the project management, customer service and after sale warranty would be copper bottomed.

[@acelectricalsecurity]

On stuff like this you don't need to worry about a warranty as it comes under part p and you will have a 6 year warranty as standard by the scheme provider.

[@Marco-mg9tv]

Monty - utter tosh

[@garethg2501]

Rewire for a 2-3 bed house is roughly £3.5-4.5k all in around here :

[@abcxyz820]

Yup.. Double socket in every room corner, back to back sockets upstairs, definitely no MK fronts ~ instead Screwfix SP switched sockets and a BG Board 👍.

[@garethg2501]

@@abcxyz820 Hager boards generally, fully loaded 5x5 for approx £130. Scolmore Mode generally

[@abcxyz820]

Hager, good stuff. The best jobs are the ones where you can pull the new cables down/up the old capping 🤣.

[@jonathanstephens7804]

@@garethg2501 5/5 split? Yuk. Too old school should be rcbo boards only IMO

[@rob.1]

Interesting watch, but even more interesting reading the comments. A customer will pay what a customer is willing to pay. It's why people still shop at Waitrose when they know they could spend less at Lidl. A lot of this comes down to service and experience for a customer. Some people want excellent service. They want you to pick up the phone when they call, turn up on time, sell yourself, talk them through the job, issue a full, written quotation, and be there for a chat afterwards if they have any questions. Other customers are happy to wait for you to turn up when it suits you. Send an email quote 4 weeks later, and turn up to do the job when you've found time in your diary. Each to their own. All I would suggest as an industry we try to resist a race to the bottom. Both in terms of the quality we deliver, and the prices we charge. We are a skilled profession. Take pride in that.

[@artisanelectrics]

Great comment thanks! I totally agree

[@Marco-mg9tv]

Charging 1280 quid a day for 2 subcontract sparks well all I can say is if someone is willing to pay that then more fool them. Yes Artisan appear do a decent job but at the end of the day it’s a domestic install that any good professional electricial outfit should make a decent job of. Yes too many sparks don’t charge enough and it’s good to see rates are going up but these rates verge on ripping people off I think. On the other pricing model - per point - you can’t apply the same price to all points. A pendant can’t be the same as a heat detector or a 10mm shower supply. - I have a spreadsheet with rates for sockets, switches, down lights etc. You get what you pay for only to a degree - a socket or a switch or a luminaire wired neatly and to regs can’t be any more than just that. It’s not like you’ve put in some futuristic smart home system, cctv, fancy lighting system it ? As they say a fool and his money are easily parted.

[@DavidDosSantos2]

he stated that he only made £1000 profit, so are you saying he should be quoting jobs as a loss? Im confused

[@Brynoize]

@@DavidDosSantos2 1k profit for the buissness all wages are covered separate from that. A lot of sparks would work 5 days for that profit.

[@Marco-mg9tv]

He’s not including the what he actually paid to the guys and himself as ‘profit’ .

[@boat303]

Whilst I think the price seems a tad high, and the timescale is more than I would allow. Perhaps for electricians who are not full time house bashers this is a realistic timescale. Maybe in terms of pricing this is where the industry should be headed, we all moan that electricians are poorly paid these days on site compared to other trades but our prices haven’t changed in 5-10 years for fear of being undercut and losing work or the client being horrified at what they actually should be paying for an experienced qualified electrician. Jordan’s confidence in his own ability to deliver a high quality service must speak volumes to the customers or he wouldn’t win work at those prices. Either that or there just aren’t any cowboys in Cambridge that will undercut him by 8 grand and leave the customer without a cert.

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks Ben! Trust me there are plenty of cowboys around here but thats what makes us stand out from the competition!

[@tezzatibbz2278]

Don't forget he spends most of his time filming the job and chatting so he has to include the cost of his time to do that

[@kangtheconqueror]

Another excellent breakdown of essential inclusions that I, and others I am sure, may not have thought of. I get so much from your videos, Jordan. Thanks for your commitment to excellence.👍🏼

[@shubz4699]

for them prices does it include covering the customers electric bills for 6 months aswell?😂

[@alexwilliams4673]

For that price I’d want em to do my neighbours house and all 😂

[@robertsmith9836]

Back in the day I did three a week with green apprentice

[@freddyfrog3192]

Fair play so did we

[@petertallowin6406]

Excellent breakdown dude. Very honest and upfront. Pricing is always a concern for me, there seems to be something I forget to add in every time however every quote is a lesson learned. I for one appreciated this video, thanks Jordan. Take care Artisan crew.

[@mitchellsx]

Great informative video. I recently purchased my first property in Leicester, 3 bed semi detached. Just had a full rewire done on my house which took around 8 days. Cost me £3k.. it is crazy the price differences I agree, 10k would of definitely priced me out, I nearly fell out my chair when that total came up..

[@faiyazlatif8134]

Hi Simon, can I ask who you used? I am in the process of looking for someone to rewire for a new house in Leicester before I move into it.

[@morellosan8643]

@@faiyazlatif8134 hello brother, I am from leic and do rewires if still interested.

[@KevinSmith-ph6jv]

I always quote per point for a rewire. Then itemise everything on the quote. So for instance if it’s £90 per socket, the client can easily see how much extra things are going to cost if anything changes. This has always worked well for me in terms of profit margins

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks for sharing your methods!

[@bobbyzilla]

I honestly can't believe how much you charge for a rewire or even per hour for that matter. Don't know if it's just the area or you are just good at marketing? That up north would have cost 2.5k max including materials, be just as safe and as just as good workmanship. I say shop around people.

[@barrybritcher]

you can't compare up North and Cambridge lol. whats the price of a premium lager where you live? Here in Norwich it's about £5 minimum

[@Emin3m1986]

Last job I’ve priced and I’m doing... £9.500 - pendants, tiny kitchen, 10 days per 2 men job. Hager RCBO C/U, satellite sockets in every room, car charger provision.

[@Ted_E_Bear]

Jordan you are the best !!!!

[@TradifyHQ]

Thanks for sharing - glad it worked out well in the end⚡️

[@marcwilliams3921]

How much for the asbestos survey bud

[@bennyboy8446]

Your right Jordan there is no money in rewire s and they are to much hard work for little money. All we do now are eicr and consumer unit changes

[@Marco-mg9tv]

Pretty much my model too mate but I like to do the outdoor supplies /hot tubs etc too. Someone spends 10/15/20k etc on a big shed ...(sorry summerhouse...garden room.. whatever they want to call it ) they will generally be ok with paying a decent rate to have it connected up properly

[@whatthedeuse]

Fair play, if that’s what the market will bare taking into account area, spec and overheads of the business. Our company literally can’t make a profit on domestic re wires at a push DB upgrades as they’re quick also high end clients where it’s more on a commercial footing with rates, overheads kill it, with the office, office staff, vans, insurances, staff training, IT systems and software. If that’s what it cost you that’s what it cost you, evidently you’ve got a structure to your pricing and not just plucking number out of the air or what you think the customers “good for” and at the end of the day they can always choose not to have it done and opt for someone with far fewer overheads that can do a similar job cheaper. 🤘

[@paul65ad]

£110 per point + materials + sundries. 3 bed by way of loft conversion circa 9k - 9.5K. (20 man days allowing working round other trades) Not worth doing for less

[@artisanelectrics]

Nice thanks for sharing!

[@RJSElectricalCheshire]

Too many keyboard warriors commenting on here. You charge what you think you're worth. Customer has the option to say no and find a cheaper quote. You can buy a Bentley or a Skoda. Both will get you from A to B but the Bentley is better. By the way, I price my rewires as time and materials plus 20%.

[@petertallowin6406]

Depends on the Bentley, my Fabia is super reliable..... :)

[@Cablesmith]

Nicely explained Jordan, very clear !

[@robertburrows6612]

There is a reason why some rewires are cheap, is because nasty poorly done and don't meet the needs of the customer and are not future proof and poor quality material used and most don't meet the current regs. I charge £130 per electrical point and that's for basic white accessories, any smart home devices are extras . People pay for what I know, all my work will pass any independent inspection . Other sparks in my area will tell you my work is done by the book and I don't do short cuts

[@peterpuchalski817]

exactly my same thoughts

[@SultansKitchen1]

Jordan thanks for the great insight into how to price a rewire & what sorts of overheads to consider.👍🏼 Ignore all the negativity in the comment section, some people just don't appreciate the value of your time & skill not to mention all the effort you put into building a business. A business must turn over a profit for it to survive, some people just don't get it. Thank you for being honest. To be truthful videos like these are persuading me to invest in your online course. I will very soon hopefully, but when the time is right for me. 😊✊🏼

[@johnmcfadden7418]

how do you get an asbestos survey done and who pays for that the client?

[@rickybeans8504]

It was all going well..... Then you said get it done it a week.... Ouch.....

[@michaeltye8853]

“ Joe Average “ After watching a few of your videos what makes you think you are a cut above the rest? . As a retired electrician your standard of work is only to the standard as one would expect to receive from a fully qualified electrician and I do not see any evidence that your work is in a way superior to many of the electrical installations I have worked on over the years. .

[@footyfactoryni]

How do you get the wholesalers prices to import into your software?

[@artisanelectrics]

They send us a price file and we import it into Tradify

[@ianbendall8625]

Where's the premium service in this rewire?just a standard rewire that most nic/eca sparkies would carry out( who have pride in their work)...but double the price!

[@Mmmjustme]

I can see the customer service will set Artisan apart from most sparks. There’s value there. Also, customer needing to be back in the property after a week must be a nightmare. Added pressures and all that.

[@ryanbound2781]

We aren’t the quickest but 3 bed rewire completed before Xmas in 2 1/2 days. All chased in capped or oval conduit installed, CU changed. and that included about 20 downlights. Other end of the country to me though......I should maybe think about moving??

[@RobWalker1]

Hi, I'm considering getting our quite old-ish (I think 1930s) house rewired. it looks like it's quite a disruptive job - usually takes a few days - and what kind of ballpark cost - or does it very much depend? We also have a bit of a hoarding problem in the house - I imagine that this might add to the hassle and cost..?

[@gyasikrasineb4808]

Very eye opening thanks for this video 👍

[@chrisg449]

Wow your the first electrical company that doesn't own a portable work light so what do you normally do in short days of winter?

[@supersparks9466]

Fit 35mm back boxes as standard, 25mm boxes are for days gone by.

[@fr1tzy2011]

All I can say is fair play to you. I'm carrying out a 3 bed rewire with no downlights. Just standard install for letting. I'm charging £4000 Inc materials. 🤣🤣 That's a big difference. Maybe I need to rethink. I charge per point myself usually. £50 per point basic spec. Enjoy watching other electricians videos. Might be a way to go myself I think. Keep up the good work.

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks, the per point price seems to vary a lot from one company to another, other guys are charging £150 per point

[@fr1tzy2011]

@@artisanelectrics that's just ridiculous if they are. Surely people aren't that stupid to fall for it. Maybe they are. Great work anyway, I think it's something I need to defo get going with. KZbin seems a great advert for the business.

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks

[@saifulhaque5135]

Yeah, rethinking should be in moderation; otherwise there is a chance to loose the job.

[@tonywebb9909]

Yes sounds fairly reasonable for the whole house package with CCU and cert. Was there heating system wiring, were smoke detectors cheap, medium or Nest? The only comment was in the pricing you were adding VAT to the materials when showing us the sums on the screen, but of course the client should only pay vat once on the final amount, you claim back the materials yourself. I am sure this is how you are doing it and I just guessed that wrongly. Keep up the good work.

[@UberAlphaSirus]

Its because when you mark up 10%, that 10% is profit on which you will pay vat on. So you add vat to it so you actual end up with 10% rather than 8%. I think that's where you where coming from.

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks for the comment. The customer pays VAT on the whole invoice you are correct.

[@ninogaggi]

Great video, really interesting. The way you are sitting, your white fluffy cat should be on your lap so you can pet it as you reveal your cunning plan, not stuffed behind you 🤣

[@artisanelectrics]

😂👍

[@kevy427]

Jordan, your 20% is markup not profit. Retailers use markup, other businesses work on profit margin Tradify doesn’t calculate margin correctly as that also does markup

[@nickblampied8784]

Agree. Actual profit margin closer to 16% with a 20% markup. Profit margin almost 0% on this job with overruns. Great video and appreciate the share Jordan. Better luck on the next one.

[@anthonywilliamson915]

Another great video, and thanks for your honesty. £100 per point whenever you do a rewire is ok, how much is acceptable to ask if a one off new point?

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks! New point price depends on how much work is involved

[@SadAnorak]

@@artisanelectrics Thats always my initial answer, however the customer does not want that answer! They don't like it when you find there's no RCD or bonding, loop too high, all spurs etc. etc.!! All they usually want is bottom line cheap price.

[@louisperry5932]

Like the videos. Just curious about the pricing. £640 + vat for a day rate seems quite high. Some customers don’t want to pay £200 a day! 3 bedroom house with a basic spec, should be around £4-6k all in around London. Just seems pretty high.

[@zenaasura1769]

To be honest these customers are the ones having a re rewire after buy cheap buy twice is really true in the electrical world.

[@elrilesy]

Are there methods you use to quickly convince customers of your higher quality of work? Or do you think they just associate great customer service with great quality work? I guess that would be the essence of being able to win jobs with quotes that are more expensive than your competition by educating customers as to what the difference is between getting someone to do it on the cheap vs the premium option. i.e do you ever say to the customer "xyz competitor will probably quote you 5,000 quid for this but they will likely cut corners in abc aspects"?

[@artisanelectrics]

I send them a list of assurances when I quote to make sure they know what they can expect from us in terms of quality and customer service. It makes us stand out.

[@barkingupthetree]

Great video mate, thanks! 💪🏽

[@mathman0101]

So here is my take on this and I am looking at the consumer perspective as well. If you are providing a premium service then the cost is not premium. The point is how do you make your work stand-out and how do you go the extra mile to prove the premium quality of your work. Certainly the KZbin channel helps and so does Instagram. However if you can provide the customer a document/handbook detailing the kind of quality you undertake with regard to wiring routes, splicing, terminations and quality of materials used and preserving existing structures such that routes are very clean then providing that information in a document with photos of all of this information would strengthen the confidence that you are providing a premium service and not just boshing a rewire in double quick-time. Transparency is really important for customers and give confidence that customers are paying for a quality service and are getting them. More than that if you are not doing too many rewires then you should not push to speed things up if you compromise on quality. As you say you can overestimate your own capacities but building in buffers in cost and time is really key.

[@orielzob2821]

Is there a payment plan for your course?

[@SIHRA2]

So well spoken. Lovely video. Thanks

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks so much!

[@niallmacneill5525]

Great video Jordan 👍 can’t wait to see the other videos from this job

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks! Day Two video is coming on Thursday at 5pm!

[@Lewis_Standing]

Just got my 5 bed 3 storey house rewired for £1000.... By two sparkies in a day. In fact they finished at 330.

[@testingtechnicians6751]

This is what I was looking for a long time. many thanks

[@artisanelectrics]

You’re welcome!

[@aaronharris5275]

We all know it's nice to make a profit. But can't it simply be that the customer pays your wages for your services? You enjoy what you do, the customer is happy and your guys get paid. Didn't you say you made £150 k profit?

[@peterpuchalski817]

£1k profit i heard him say

[@aaronharris5275]

@@peterpuchalski817 In another video he said £150k for the year. Fair play to Artisan but for the general public getting trades people in seems to require remortgaging.

[@peterpuchalski817]

@@aaronharris5275 £150k could be his turnover. Even if its his profit then good luck to him. It's about working smarter than your competitors sometimes. Don't compare yourself to the next man and his prices and dont join the 'race to the bottom' ... i cant see how these £350 cu changers can ever be making any money. Its what you think you are worth and if you are not getting work from what you do then change what you do, Simple!

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks Peter I totally agree!

[@artisanelectrics]

If you only charge your wages you own a charity not a business and you will go bust eventually when something goes wrong. You have to make a profit for the sake of continuing your company for a long time and being able to support your customers in the long term. Too many companies do a cheap job and then go bust and customer tries to contact them a few years later to find out they no longer exist.

[@rob19632]

What ever way you look at it £80 + vat is too expensive that's £153,000 a year for a 48 week . I bet he pays his apprentice the minimum wage that's how he can afford a Tesla.

[@steve11211]

I agree the labour cost is crazy but if someone is willing to pay that amount. I would though add that your figures dont take into account working out what parts are needed and ordering them, collecting parts, doing quotes, doing certification paperwork, doing invoices, general management of the business. Then you have to account for holiday, sickness, pension, time loading and unloading tools from car etc. You then need to look at when people cancel jobs last minute or you have a quite period, if I do a job that takes say 6hrs, I dont have time to do another job so get 6hrs pay for the day, this is especially true in the winter as you often need power off you can be limited by the amount of light, work lights are useful but its so much slower as the light does not penetrate the same so trying to find things in tool boxes etc becomes more of a task. I think 80-100k would be closer to the mark, most sparkies are more like 35-40 per hour so more like 35-50k a year for self employed.

[@joepostle3561]

To be honest if I came back to the industry I would only interested in EICRs and general maintenance work. I agree that full rewires are generally best left to those who specialise and would pass over jobs in entirety (not subcontract). On a personal level, all domestic work makes me cringe and fills me full of dread! Is a good point about tools when it comes to when specialising with specific types of work / jobs. It is also the same with working practices, those who do solar panels all-day, everyday can obviously install them faster and better than those who do occasionally, same with EICRs and ev chargers etc.

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks for your comments! So true

[@freddyfrog3192]

Load of crap thats your job house bashing thats why you became and a sparky like a plumber saying I don't fit toilets....

[@johnhighland2260]

Get into office refurbishments if you can , all stripped out ready for new install, false ceilings and raised floors clean easy 1st and second fix. Rewires nooooo.

[@effervescence5664]

The trouble with rewires is, occupied or unoccupied. Type of floors and walls. Covid has to be taken into account now too. Just those 3 things can add dozens of hours to a job which can add a couple thousand within days. Much of it comes down to how the lads work on site and what order you're doing it in, done right you can get 90% of first fix out the way in a couple days with only the kitchen lagging behind. Then just test/ power up in priority order, terminate at CU > Kitchen > heating > rest of house. In the end it can be thousands different and anywhere between £4000 (unoccupied and no furniture) and £14000 (occupied) is quite normal depending on the level of finish and products. This is why if you can afford to not move into a place before you buy one, don't. Get all the dirty jobs out the way first, especially something like a rewire/ new heating system, bathrooms and kitchens which will see decent ROI.

[@artisanelectrics]

I totally agree! Great comment.

[@effervescence5664]

@@artisanelectrics Really looking forward to the rest of the rewire video's coming out. Be nice to see how you got around and over any difficulties you might find. Currently undertaking 2 rewires (one with a new heating system going in) at the same time. One of which the tenant which has vacated the country had converted into a grow without anyone knowing. Only found out after it's empty when coming to do an EICR!

[@Spark101.]

Lol. One Rewire and your going grey.

[@supersparks9466]

I don’t get the 1000 only profit? If your charging 3200 a week for one man a week surely you’re paying them a lot less than that. Even if paying a spark £1500 a week that’s still 1700 profit x 2 plus the 1000.

[@RichardArblaster]

Great video 😎

[@RichardArblaster]

Was the profit from the re-wire, gross or net? (i.e. before or after corporation tax)?

[@artisanelectrics]

Gross profit

[@RichardArblaster]

@@artisanelectrics Ooof, I can see now why you're going to shy away from re-wires.

[@ITIRICI]

I average 61% margin on my jobs. No idea how everything is so low for you over there. Even at that margin we are still middle tier in pricing but get much more business as we are the oldest company in the a 100 mile radius. I have a way that would help you I'm sure. While they may not seem like they are profitable, they are when you understand them better. Let me know and we could convert my method for you to see if it yields better results.

[@liamcurtis6601]

£80 an hour for house bashing, twice what us seasoned skilled industrial sparks charge. I'm too soft too charge more than around a quarter of your rate when doing domestic. Probably why I try n stay clear and domestic. I much prefer the industrial work

[@dalemr2]

I really do think if a business is offering or pretending to operate a premium service then they should at least own ALL their eqiupment. You've replied saying you don't have storage for all the tools necessary, but once again, you're charging premium rates, you should have storage in place! I did used to like your videos, but the more I watch the more it comes across that you're Willy waving. I think the way you come across talking about money all the time, trying to push your online courses that you're on the very verge of achieving the opposite of what you're trying to demonstrate.

[@davidwinch57]

We are finishing tomorrow a 4 bed 2 bathroom all flush rewire in Hertfordshire. With 24 led downlights all rooms with dimmers , 2 beds had ceiling fans. Nest doorbell 5 outside lights and 1 socket and cables installed for an alarm in the future and a 4mm to the loft. 1 electrician and mate the 1st 8 days . 2 electrician and a mate the next 6 days with 1 day for the plasterer. Any ideas what the price was and what would you had charged Jordan.

[@andytap560]

Im £65 per point or per hour(no vat) and im based in surrey so i reckon im too cheap.

[@JOSHIMEOW]

Random question jordan, have you passed your 2391

[@jonathanstephens7804]

No, he is a 2nd year apprentice. His rates go up when he's fully qualified :)

[@artisanelectrics]

Yes of course! Did it a few weeks after my AM2!

[@JOSHIMEOW]

@@jonathanstephens7804 thought he was under pricing his work

[@nomadicsoul34]

Ive literally never heard of an asbestos survey and requesting a plan before .

[@artisanelectrics]

😬

[@EVENTSLTD]

I don't think it helps people relate when most will be 1 electrican and a mate compared to a team. £1000 profit would be £5000+ profit for a one spark + mate. Nonetheless helpful overall :).

[@artisanelectrics]

Yea that’s true thanks for the comment

[@freddyfrog3192]

The electrician costs in this article are correct as of 2021 Although electricians carry out a wide range of work, they tend to charge in three ways: per hour, per day, and via a set price for a specifc task. The average hourly rate for an electrican is around £40 per hour, though this is often higher in London Electrican day rates tend to come in at around £200 to £250 per day

[@freddyfrog3192]

This company's work might be good but 94 pound a hour come on...

[@montystelevision3238]

That Lamp ❤️

[@caparn100]

I'm just wondering if you charge your electricians out at £80 an hour, how much do you pay them an hour?

[@edglue6138]

15 I bet. Max 20

[@edglue6138]

Bottom line, I'd never use this robbing kant

[@adrianthorpe8005]

@@edglue6138 in there area 150 pd

[@edglue6138]

@@adrianthorpe8005 full of smack heads isn't it?

[@claudiub3679]

If you have no experience running a business you may want to know the answer. There are so many expenses beside the wages of the guys...travel between jobs, vans, insurances..and the list goes on and on.. If he is paying his guys £20/hour, he is not making anywhere near £60/hour from their side only.

[@mrgfromoxford8644]

Do electricians actually still use 25mm back boxes .😂

[@petertallowin6406]

Have you worked on any new builds recently? They cram in what they can and run before the accessory bursts off the wall! :)

[@steve11211]

@@petertallowin6406 Haha this is so true. too lazy to sink in a 35mm back box, the thermite breeze blocks they use on new builds are so soft really would not take much to dig them in a bit but all cost. Compared to 60s and 70s concrete blocks, give me bricks instead of those buggers.

[@artisanelectrics]

😂👍

[@misstertash1701]

@@steve11211 1st. Most new build are semi ditched with one side of the house being hard blocks rather than the thermite breeze block that you are talking about. 2nd. 1st fix prices are rebelliously low now. Prices are now less than in 2001. 3rd. Most 1st fixes are carried out by hard working Electricians who would be more than happy to chase a 35mm box into any wall but the materials are provided by the electrical contractor who is sub contracting the work out. So in summary, it is NOT laziness on the electricians part. It is GREED on the big house builders and the electrical contractors who subcontract the work out to the hard working electrician. Part of the reason our industry is in such a shit state is the greed from the large builders.

[@steve11211]

@@misstertash1701 I totally agree prices is the problem, but its also unskilled or semi-skilled workers undercutting electricians. I dont do new builds because I would never be willing to cut so many corners and if I didnt cut the corners then its just not financially worth it. If everyone did that prices and standards would increase. Its the same problem as the £60 EICR, im not going to compete with that, if the electricians are more than happy to chase in the 35mm backbox and they think that is better then they should do that. I think you have miss interpreted my post, I agree its greed by house builders and electrical contractors but its also those subcontractors that are willing to cut standards, as an electrician it is your responsibility for the electrical installation. If you were fitting a 10kw shower and someone said "Here you go here is some 1.5mm T+E cause its cheaper than 10mm", would you fit it? I would hope you would not so why is it acceptable to fit a 25mm backbox when clearly it should be 35mm? The problem with the industry is people that are trying to maintain decent standards and do a decent job for a fair price are being undercut by people willing to do a half arsed job for half the cost. There should be more regulation in the electrical industry to control the qualifications needed and the standards especially in new homes.

[@paulrowe9604]

I would not touch rewires or new houses !!!! Zero profit !!! A lot of sweat for not much money !!!!

[@pidged]

AFDD, are they not compulsory as of 2021?? I have heard mixed information

[@marcusstonham]

No. Discussions for future amendments ongoing but not likely till roughly 2023

[@Mmmjustme]

Wow. Lot of haters out there right now. 😏

[@johnseabrook1703]

People are allowed their own opinions, doesn’t make them haters.

[@Mmmjustme]

@@johnseabrook1703 couldn’t agree with you more. Just my opinion which, as you’ve clarified, I am entitled to. 👍

[@johnseabrook1703]

@@Mmmjustme my point being, that people with different views aren’t haters.

[@Mmmjustme]

@@johnseabrook1703 have a nice weekend John.

[@johnseabrook1703]

@@Mmmjustme and you.

[@knightstemplar8379]

I'm surprised you were so cheap considering when you quoted £16,000 for a 2 bedroom flat 12 months ago. Occupied rewires aren't worth the hassle.

[@artisanelectrics]

😂👍

[@scott4018]

Had you priced it correctly as you mentioned, would you seriously be expecting to make almost £4-5k in profit? After material and labour cost? (If your cost was £7.7k but felt the correct price should have been £12k+)

[@artisanelectrics]

We made £1000 gross profit on this job after our direct costs were paid such as labour and materials but a net loss as once you factor in overheads that’s the £1000 gone.

[@scott4018]

Ok yeah that’s makes sense, not great having such high overheads, Had you priced it correctly though would you be expecting that higher profit, for just 3 man weeks?

[@waynenixon729]

I'll go with Nick Bundy or that comedy act David Savery Electrical Services i'm sure they would not need to hire tools / lighting. 20% mark up on materials? for just going to collect them from the wholesalers? If i was going to need a re-wire, i would do all the prep work myself and save a load of money.

[@sparksoverhead5188]

This is not a dig, but you film so much of the rewire, that added time to the job, this could of been at your client expense. It was lucky your hourly rate is high, to cover this.

[@darrenfreeman6205]

£1000.00 all in lol 😆

[@samuel2j213]

Should have got Bundy and co on it 🤣🤣🤣 easy 3 days work

[@artisanelectrics]

Yeah fueled by Monster energy drinks and McDonalds

[@barryturner1146]

800 a day wow

[@barryturner1146]

640

[@Sam.147]

£80+vat per hour per sparky on the job?? No wonder you don't get many rewire jobs 🤣🤣

[@kieranmccreedy271]

I need to become an electrician! £12,000 for a rewire - £3,300 materials = £8,700. Do one of those every two weeks that’s £217k a year. Okay, minus a van, tools, insurances etc but still a fair chunk of change! Fair play though if the customer is happy and you are making. 👌🏻

[@tonywebb9909]

Okay, I make things complicated sorry. A quick and simple example based on an electrical quote in the UK with 20% vat. I quote £200 (ex vat) for a small job, £100 is materials and £100 is labour. The client is billed £200 + VAT = £240. I claim back £20 vat on the materials with my next vat return, so the government get £20 in duty for this work. That's the correct way to do it. Some people do it incorrectly, example.. Materials cost £100 + vat =£120 so they quote £220 for the job. The client gets billed £220 + vat = £264. Client has now paid £20 markup and an extra £4 double vat. Lots of people price this way and get away with it!

[@richardbayley4218]

That's why i only use a sparks who isn't VAT registered

[@craigbutler6243]

My advice for pricing a rewire, simple: Don't

[@deanwilliams7320]

Not sure why your think you company is high end of the electrical industry? Other than your over inflated rates. Your in the domestic electrical sector which is full of average Joe's as you call them. We work for blue chip companies in the industrial sector and would not be able to charge your rates, but good look in twin slinging.

[@davecowan9466]

I’m inclined to agree! Although not sure where the whole snobbery comes from when it comes to industrial electrical work vs domestic.....there are good and bad sparks in both, and I’d hardly say all industrial work is rocket science. Good luck to him if he can charge £80/hr and get away with it (I know I can’t).....but I’d say you’re green with envy that he’s making so much money ‘twin slinging’ 😂

[@deanwilliams7320]

@@davecowan9466 I would want that kind of money to be ratting about in a loft or lifting chipboard floors. Definitely welcome to it.👍🏻

[@markshaw1413]

This bloke is an embarrassment to the profession.

[@Marco-mg9tv]

It’s all about perception- he charges much higher than joe average rates people think they are getting much higher than average work/ end result. If you buy an expensive wine it must be really good and better than the one half the price right ? Unless he’s installing really expensive accessories, fitting integrated AFFD on each circuit, etc then the markup is all on labour . He’s no faster or better than any good electrician so is the customer getting value for money ? No. Does he think he is ? Yes.

[@davecowan9466]

@@deanwilliams7320 As much as I hate that kind of work, fair play squeezing £80/hr out of people for rewires.....not sure how he gets away with it in the first place 😂

[@adriangourlay]

Yet another thumb nail that you selected showing you with one eye shut - don’t give it up to satan… you need more god in your life brother

[@artisanelectrics]

What does having one eye shut have to do with God & Satan out of interest?

[@adriangourlay]

@@artisanelectrics google "celebrities one eye shut"... it is the first stage of initiation into the club... mocking the peasants who cant see - in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king. This world is run by satan... you only have to open those eyes to see all that has gone on since march 2020 to see that. You recently posted another video whereby the thumbnail is you covering one eye - just like these celebrities... if not intentional then fine but be aware of that what you do.

[@brightsideofsaturn]

You are the only person that can make a house rewire quote sound soothing

[@Spark101.]

I wouldn’t worry mate. You won’t get many anyway, Not many people will pay £10k for a 4 bedroom house Rewire.

[@jonathanstephens7804]

I dunno, he seems to be getting these rates somehow! lol

[@amatchmadeindevon2005]

I’m shocked, fairplay if you can get those rates, I personally wouldn’t have the nerve to print that sum and send it to someone unless it was a joke 😂 it’s £55 a socket, £55 a downlight, for middle of the road, £65 USB socket, we done a 5 bed rewire last year few down lights in this price, £7,800 inc vat

[@Spark101.]

Fair play to him I suppose. I seriously don’t know anyone who charges these rates though. And looking at his work on KZbin, he’s no better than the average electrician who is good at his job. He’s not a cut above, which is what I would expect for the over inflated prices. You can tell his mentality......‘I will show you how ‘I’ price a rewire.....not how an ‘average joe’ prices one. He certainly thinks he’s a cut above. Good luck to him. He seems to be convincing his customers he is super sparks. How would they know different! He probably believes it himself.

[@tezzatibbz2278]

@@Spark101. and he's also raising extra money from this channel and promoting things. I thought he went too far when he was asking apprentices to donate 🤣

[@Spark101.]

@@tezzatibbz2278 He also went too far charging £1000 for a business course. No doubt, lots of apprentices and trainee’s who dream of making it are now a grand down after paying for information you’ll likely learn just by going through the process of starting a business, and making all the mistakes yourself. Which, is probably the best way to learn. He thinks £1000 for this common knowledge is reasonable. But then again, he also thinks £768.00 per man per day is reasonable. 😂😂 Imagine him having a coffee shop: ‘That’s £17 please’ £17!!!!!! For one coffee!! ‘Well, all our coffee is made with the most exquisite attention to detail, and our customer services during the course of us serving it to you is unrivalled! Granted, it isn’t 100% brand new because we used a second hand cup, but we have a great reputation so we price high end anyway’ Second hand cup and just coffee inside yea??? ‘Yea!’ Erm......yea, I’ll leave it then cheers! They do brand new cups with coffee in it down the road for £2 😂