How to rebuild any EVAP charcoal canister for cheap p0441

[@Tuberdog8]

Thank you so much again! I have a 2000 4runner. I opened the case with a hot knife creating 6 cracks in it. I welded the cracks with my soldering iron. Did not replace the filters. Used rabbit pellet like charcoal from Petco. $17 Black Silicone like you said and clamped overnight. I gave it a 5% chance of working - but it WORKED!! 8 hours and 50 miles later no codes!! Keeping my fingers crossed. Toyota wanted $380 for canister and $350 labor. Cost me $17 for charcoal $6 for Silicone!

[@Lykaon_OSRS]

did your codes stay off?

[@bam6972]

after I done this my engine light never came back on for this problem. still my daily driver...

[@simontemplar5506]

Before you fix it! the track off lights was on too on your car? ps: my car is a Toyota Matrix 2011 less than 102 000 KM ;( Thank you.

[@KS-uo4br]

@@bam6972 its been four years for your post. How is the EVAP canister?

[@BrokenRRT]

@@KS-uo4br even if he only got 6 months it’s worth it.

[@ScoobNoob]

9 years later and this video was a lifesaver for my 2002 Subaru WRX! A friend told me about replacing the carbon, his method was to hole-saw into the canister though - I tried this method of cutting along the original seam and it worked. Took some elbow grease but it didn't take long at all to cut. Still need to grab some carbon and test it out but I'm feeling confident. THANK YOU!

[@susansilver1334]

Man, I was looking all around trying to figure out what these filters were made out of. This video made me very happy. Now I know what to buy.

[@robertzema5273]

Did this on my 07 Silverado. It was taking me 20 minutes to fill the tank half way. I was able to cut the canister seam with a sharp utility knife along with spreading the seam with a flat blade screwdriver. Sure enough, the old charcoal was nearly all solidified into a big lump of dust and mold. I found the filter media on Amazon for about $7. I happened to have a supply of activated charcoal on hand from other projects. I found it easier to disconnect the hoses at their distil ends and kept them attached to the canister during the whole operation. Whole job too about an hour. This completely solved my problem.

[@bam6972]

awesome. glad it helped ya.

[@danielt8764]

Can you post the filter media you purchased?

[@ranwolf1240]

Just tried this method yesterday. It does seem to have helped. The pump still clicks off, but not nearly as much as before, so thanks for this.

[@BrokenRRT]

Replace the purge solenoid. The canister will fix the plugged vapor issue but the valve that opens and closes allowing vapor in and out of that canister may and usually needs replaced as well. Cheap on Amazon.

[@AUDIO2AUTO]

Its the blocked vent valve thats preventing you from filling up.

[@BLKSTONE4WD]

Soo doing this on my 93' hardbody 4x4 v6. Small tip on these d21s .. i took the off plastic air scoop that covers the charcoal canister vent intake tube ,that is located under the front driver side fender well closer to the engine block, take it off and see the ram air effect that it will do to the canister system, of course if possible do what this awesome man did in the video as well to the canister itself, in order to gain maximum effect. Of course the plastic cover is on there for a reason because Nissan wants to "protect" the canister from foreign objects and redirect air flow. I've found this factory scoop to be restrictive especially with the small scoop opening that it has... honestly imo it's a joke lol ..take it off and let the canister breathe especially if it's 25 yrs old like mine. Hope this helps. Peace thanks again for the super helpful vid boss.

[@johnhalchishick7094]

I watched some ranchers do this to their trucks.The used a couple of oven/stove filters. They also have the charcoal to catch fumes smoke ect.They just kinda bent them pleats style. Claimed to do the trick .

[@mexicanpostar7606]

Just what I've been looking for. Only took 60 minutes. Thk u

[@gelmgren]

04 Dodge Ram, $380.00 new canister, I opened the canister and refreshed the activated carbon then sealed with J.B. weld. If I have to do another one I'll seal off one port then put the canister under vacuum to remove excess vapor. When the purge valve fails the engine is unable to pull a vacuum to clear the canister, always replace the purge valve as this was most likely the cause of the failure.

[@alexxander7289]

this is what happened when I replaced my purge valve. brand new purge valve failed exactly 5 days later.

[@eduardofunes5839]

Thanks for the😊 tape. I’m going to try this before spending $650. For a canister.

[@Cbze]

You deserve a milion dolalrs! thank you

[@simengineering9183]

Agreed!

[@busara45thevillain22]

So far so good! I've done the same. Step by step. Only difference is that I used gasket sealant on the inside and gorilla glue the outer lip of the back. Not crossing any fingers. If it comes back on, it'll be another 4 yrs before I give a damn again.

[@phordguy]

In a pinch you can use super glue and baking soda to fix the cracks or where you cut too. Put super glue all over the seam and then sprinkle with soda. Repeat and build it up if you need to. It will make a good seal if you can't get any silicone. There are a lot of videos on youtube about it that you can watch. CA glue is neat stuff.

[@dianeibsen5994]

Hi. Thank you for the tip! I'll give this a try. Can you tellme what do you mean by CA glue?

[@izuannazrin]

​@@dianeibsen5994cyanoacrylate glue a.k.a Super glue

[@pablojimenez5736]

Did it work when you installed back? How long lasted?

[@johnkrotzer3809]

Great video! I purchased the charcoal and it sorta came in rock form do I need to mash it up? Also should I fill it up all the way with it? Thanks

[@bam6972]

As long as it's not too big.

[@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP]

*Great job* I can't buy a new EVAP for my '89 Buick, and why would I want a junkyard piece? Why eBay? Don't you have a pet store where you live? Aquarium filter floss and activated charcoal are cheap, too. No- you won't get better mileage- but it will drastically reduce fuel odors around the vehicle. After so many years- the charcoal will become clogged and useless.

[@jimreedy6991]

saved me 200$ Love DIY and ty for the vid!

[@simengineering9183]

Running with same issue but in Hyundai, wish you had a video of that canister, a new one is way over $100

[@dianeibsen5994]

I have a 1997 Ford escort that smells of gas in the cabin when I first start driving and wonder if anyone has any suggestions how to stop this? Thank you

[@gelmgren]

Self serve or by attendant when the gas nozzle auto shuts off do not try to squeeze more into the tank. The excess fuel will flood the evap canister.

[@Texaca]

1:38 ... a friend of mine, who is very knowledgeable on Chemistry, says that activated charcoal can be rejuvenated by baking it in an oven. Preferably Outdoors. I wonder if this will apply in this scenario 🤔

[@gelmgren]

Yes you can cook off the hydrocarbons, but a good vacuum pump will also draw the vapours off without opening the canister. Just need to plug off some of the ports.

[@Snookbite24]

@@gelmgren​​⁠which method would you go with. I’ve been dealing with this with my Hyundai 2.4L. I can rent (borrow) a vacuum pump O’Reilly. If I go the refresh route, do I use powder carbon or smaller chunks?

[@dangerdoberman]

Just saw this video just after I put a new GM one on. Oh well, at least I know if I have to do it again on another vehicle. Thanks.

[@FabianCharrua]

Is that charcoal bag in granules or powder?

[@michaelschmidt7014]

You would want to use granulateed carbon not powdered carbon as the powdered type will compact and clog up thus no air flow through the mediam. Granulated would be better than 'rabbit pellet size (rabbit manure size) ' more surface area without compacting like the powder.

[@lastmanxa]

can i use activated carbon which is originally used for aquarium filters ?

[@bam6972]

yes

[@LCNismo]

How well did it work?

[@michaelgriesinger2566]

Out of curiosity does the charcoal go into both chambers? What is the purpose of it being spring loaded? Also, when you refilled the system was it hard packed in? or was there some space for airflow over the charcoal?

[@bam6972]

where ever the charcoal came out of on yours is where you need to fill. its spring loaded to help compress the charcoal so it wont move all around. the charcoal was packed pretty good in there.

[@getchasome6230]

In the one shown, yes, it came from both sides. Yours may be different

[@gelmgren]

@@bam6972 On one truck we own the activated carbon turned into powder finding its way into the fuel tank and destroyed the pump.

[@johnd4348]

What would happen if you did not refill the canister with carbon, but just left it empty, or just filled it with foam insulation like fiber class.

[@bam6972]

not sure. it might work. try it out and let us know.

[@BasVossen]

Carbon absorbs fumes, so if you leave it away, your vehicle will have a stronger fuel smell.

[@notreal5299]

i would be concerned the gas vapors would be dangerous with the styro foam. your comment was a year ago. since im debating rebuilding mine i wonder how did your attempt go?

[@johnd4348]

@@notreal5299 I just went to Rock Auto online parts and bought a new one. It was very reasonable priced. Cant remember the exact cost, but less than 200 hundred dollars and that was for the purge valve and purge relay. Took me about 2 hours to install. it's pretty easy. If you go the rebuild route, activated charco can be found at pet supply stores and even Walmart in pet supply area.

[@notreal5299]

@@johnd4348 tu

[@j.enriquez]

Ok, I tried this on my car and the gasoline pretty much ate through the silicone. I had to take it out again and plastic weld the parts I cut off. That seemed to work.

[@joshuafoster23]

The best fuel resistant gasket material for gasoline is Nitrile (Buna-N), a closed-cell sponge rubber material that provides excellent gasket material for sealing applications that require resistance to gasoline, oil, fuels, as well as solvents, hydraulic fluids, and mineral and vegetable oils...

[@AUDIO2AUTO]

"Seal All"

[@israel22888]

what are the symptom of a bad canister? my 2002 Accent has a rough start, smells like gas in the car, it putters down the highway, I can't accelerate hard

[@bam6972]

if there is any codes that say there is no flow detected or something along the lines of that. there isnt any problems running a bad canister.

[@israel22888]

OK, the only code we found was the TPS , we replaced it. the car runs much better. NOW the car seems to choke when the accelerator is pressed. We are thinking it the catalytic converter. There is a plastic shield under the radiator but hangs out a little that melted when the catalytic converter got super hot. Why would the catalytic converter get hot? Cuz its bad/no good/clogged. The car don't accelerate when you step on the gas pedal, hesitates to start, bad fuel mileage.

[@bam6972]

if the car was driven for a long time with the tps out it could have been dumping too much fuel in and thats why it ran bad. and with the excess fuel burning inside the converter it melted the material inside and clogged itself up. replace converter and you should be good to go. dont drive it long with a clogged converter, it will damage the engine.

[@jimmytate7587]

you will get a check engine light

[@reavesmo8060]

In theory you can get a little better mileage with a good canister. In some cars a clogged canister can even make the pump shut off at the gas station before it's full. But these are mostly an environmental add-on. They don't seem to cause serious issues like stalling, no start, rough idle, etc.

[@permanentwave]

Did it work?

[@bam6972]

been workin ever since i made the video

[@tommcdaniel4900]

Very nice video. Would have been even better to have actually watched you put it together and see the end result. But...all in all, it is a highly informative video. Thanks for sharing!!

[@bam6972]

thanks for the comment. dont forget to like and subscribe.

[@MrYosup27]

Is the activated carbon/charcoal, Granular, powder, or in a small pellet form? I found these 3 types so far. Thanks man!

[@bam6972]

granulated charcoal is the best to use.

[@dvader3000]

How many pounds did you used to refill the canister?

[@DIXIEMAFIA251]

It’s the purge valve and it’s used to plug up with spring to create a vacuumed suction

[@max0r4axor]

Wonder if you could use activated carbon felt instead.

[@gelmgren]

Granular has more surface area.

[@BLKSTONE4WD]

By the way i have gained mpgs and some power. Thanks.

[@billywong1779]

got a question. will it save fuel consumption of the car

[@bam6972]

no

[@jasoncook5307]

yes it increases fuel mileage having a working evap system since it recycles unburnt fuel vapors

[@Tuberdog8]

Did it work? Error codes gone?

[@bam6972]

Yes. it worked. it detects there is flow now. so all good

[@911bruce]

Do you know what kind of foam filter material would not degrade when it is exposed to the fuel vapours?

[@bobbofly]

I should think some "scotchbrite" scrubbies would work beautifully. Those gigantic 7x9in ones like the big restaurant chains use. You can get them at any restaurant supply store. Cut to fit & stack in, layer-x-layer.

[@NaveenAntal]

What happens if intake fuel port and purge port connections are interchanged??? This is serious question. 😐 Please answer

[@bam6972]

usually the hoses are not interchangeable. one is big and the other is smaller. but if they are swapped it will just filter backwards i do believe. it may also set a code.

[@xsydor26]

they charge $352 for that part on my car

[@666dynomax]

question... why does it even need the charcoal in it... can you just run it empty?

[@bam6972]

it needs the charcoal in it to store the vapors

[@MahmoudElHamalawy]

Could you put a link to what kind of carbon?

[@bam6972]

search ebay for activated carbon. dont use the pellets. get the crushed kind.

[@johnd4348]

Pet stores who sell fish sometimes sell activated carbon as filter material.

[@alexxander7289]

the car manufactures want to people to not fix their own vehicles. 2024 dealership wanted $1200 in 2024 to do this.

[@AndrewMartin600]

where can i get those filters?

[@bam6972]

ebay

[@jimpie231]

Jason Amazon,get the part # from mfg (oem) and search web , I fun mine at a Honda dealer for $285, list was $395... Jim CD

[@dm7097]

I have a 96 blazer with a rotted out mounting bracket. Anyone know where I can get a new one? Or will i have to fabricate something? Thanks

[@bam6972]

just fab one up the best you can out of scrap u have layin around. dont take much just as long as stays up where it supposed to be ....

[@biggboysouth]

Also junkyard if you don't want to or don't have the tools to fab something up.

[@apb38]

For as little as it costs to buy a new one all of this isn't really feasible but in a Mad Max world it's good info.

[@bam6972]

Some are hundreds of dollars

[@thisthatwhatsup-mh3hq]

Yeah my charcoal canister is $349

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

The Rav4 one is VERY expensive.

[@eyefromdasky3269]

I broke male fitting in one of them God dammit.. it's the skinnier of the 3 I have to buy a new canister and mine wasn't even bad fuck my fuckin life

[@bam6972]

if you still have the fitting, use some of that 2 part plastic weld super glue. then jb weld the crap out of the sides to reinforce it. should work like new.

[@eyefromdasky3269]

Really? I could try it I think I'm gonna try that man I pray it work

[@bam6972]

cant hurt to try. if it fails you only lost 15 bucks. if it works then you saved over a hundred bucks.

[@eyefromdasky3269]

I'll let you know

[@bam6972]

did it work?

[@myothernewname]

I know the canister I need is $250ish. Not sure where this other dude finds his for under $100. $100 is a junkyard price for me.

[@bam6972]

yea if you can get it apart without destroying it just rebuild it like i did. mine is still working to this day. code never came back.

[@raulmartinez6508]

MyOtherNewName JB

[@natecameron7496]

2016 Toyota Tundra canister costs $975.00!! I'm definitely going to give this a shot and save myself $950.

[@brod12313]

@@natecameron7496 yeah, I'm pissed, 2k12 tundra and toyota wants $1,500 including labor

[@turnipsucks6416]

Dare I ask. Is your canister rebuild still working? Seriously considering this route. Mines 26 yrs old.

[@josepool9561]

So I’m dealing with the same thing man but.. I can’t help how much this dude sounds like Phillip Seymour Hoffman!

[@JayOrlando32828]

So video doesn't show how to open it or how to seal it and put it back together .... hmmm

[@ChuckWood]

cut it at the seam, pry apart with screw driver. Just did it, took 5 minutes