How to rebuild Case 970 hydraulic remote valve.

[@AWDJRforYouTube]

Great repair job Frank. I'm a big fan of Case equipment from that 64-74 era, it all had that same Case look from a 970 tractor to an 1150 track loader, same with most US farm and construction equipment.

[@Digginok]

Pretty solid equipment from a lot of manufacturers in those days. Always love the case farm tractors. Thanks for watching

[@timebert6141]

Glad your channel is open 24/7. I am late every time these days. No disrespect still have as much love for your channel as ever. You by far hold the record for the longest period of time being my favorite channel.

[@Digginok]

Thanks for that Tim! I’m usually late in posting it all works out

[@timebert6141]

@@Digginok Birds of a feather flock together..

[@burningdinosaurs]

Oliver used thermal relief valves on the 55+ series or closed-center systems too. The factory ones on my 1755 were shot. The earlier 00-50 series tractors with open-center used an interlock system so you couldn't operate the remotes without system pressure. It was a safety measure to prevent dropping an implement or whatever on accident if fumbling around the operator's station while the tractor is off. It was a good idea, but not well-received in practice. I like that Case design - little different, pretty simple, but effective! Very nice rebuild job, Frank! Great success! Thanks for sharing!

[@Digginok]

Interesting, have never worked on an Oliver, my dad did have a Massey Ferguson 98 which was built by Oliver, I was too young to remember much about it. I’m pretty sure the older Case used a steel seat, not sure why they changed to plastic. Thanks for watching

[@gibsonlandscapeconstructio7984]

I used to work on trucks etc with my dad too👍best way to learn and spend some time together👍Good video Frank Love the repair videos

[@Digginok]

Yes sir! Thanks for watching

[@larrywall1642]

Your skill to fix anything is amazing.

[@Digginok]

Well it came with a lot of experience working on old tractors, my dad was always fixing something, guess I may have paid attention. Thanks for watching

[@shanepersons383]

Right fine vid Frank 👍 good work and love that ole gal good ole tractor!

[@Digginok]

Thanks Shane!

[@kerrygleeson4409]

Great job Frank I am a big fan of case built to last 🇦🇺👍

[@Digginok]

Thanks!😎👍🇺🇸

[@super6954]

Thanks for the video, I've had a few of those apart but they were junk so never rebuilt one just put used ones on the customer picked up cheap, then found the pressures were off on the reliefs. There is one tractor out there I couldn't shim and get it right with a washer, so it's got a canadian coin with the print ground off both sides and a factory shim or 2 in L.O.L. I actually got real good at doing them in guys farm yards without jacking the cabs. If I was still doing some I'd of built the tool like case had to set the reliefs up. So I knew what it was doing before having to fit it and guess a few times if it was too high or not quite enough, if they wanted more pressure for some machines. I'm down to one customer with an 870 in that range and now he figures he don't want to pay me much to work on it, The money goes on the MX135 he bought as a "better tractor" he just asks a lot of questions on the old 70 now L.O.L They are still a good tractor this guys 870's been on the farm since his dad had it as a demo unit when it was new, and he uses it on a big NH haybine ,and he just added a 3 point and separate loader spool/ joystick so he's doubled the value of it now. It'll be interesting how long the pto lasts he's got a massive Shulte snow blower on it now to so he can feed cattle with the MX and processer without swapping equipment . Take care.

[@Digginok]

Thanks for watching! Lots of 70:series running around these parts. Hope this helps keep one going.

[@Jordan-ATX]

Hey Frank thank you for the video, we are rebuilding a hydraulic remote valve on a 1070, do you have part number for the rebuild kit? And did you order through Case? Thanks

[@kb80909kbbbbb]

Nice work. That case 970 is one of first one, because of metal fuel tank. I think change to rubber fuel tank in '71.

[@Digginok]

That tank is plastic. Thanks for watching and the info

[@Chuckingrocks36]

Hey Frank I have a few questions on a 970 pto problems. Pto engages but doesn't have much power. Doesn't have enough power to operate my small square baler. Its a massey ferguson 124. Doesn't matter my rpms or what gear im in it doesn't change pto power at all. Any info would be great. Im not familiar with case tractors or know much about ptos. Im a diesel mechanic and have worked everything from cars to diesels generators. Not much tractor besides engine work.

[@Digginok]

Pressure check would be the first place to start, a good manual will show the procedure. I’m not that knowledgeable about them. Kinda seems as if the pto brake is working, but if the clutch pressure is low it will never pull a load. Could be valve issues, or clutch pack issues. When the clutch linings are worn out the pto will not make any power, as if the clutch pressure is low will cause the clutch linings to wear out prematurely. Start with the simple stuff, is the linkage adjustment correct, then move on to pressure checks.

[@Digginok]

Email me if you want to talk about it [e-mail]

[@DieselandIron]

Super interesting. Where'd you learn to work on these old tractors Frank?

[@Digginok]

Grew up running them, learned a lot from my dad. Did a few in the field, it’s much easier in a nice shop. Thanks for watching

[@doowey22]

1977 case 1370 3 pt. will only raise half way, oil level proper. Have any ideas of how to fix?

[@Digginok]

Check the draft sensing setting, I’m not that familiar with a 1370, but that’s where I wails start.

[@chanceryland7184]

Have a case 970 that will lift my haybine smoothly with no issue, but won’t let it down unless I hit the lever hard (like it’s binding up) and then it’ll break free and drop the haybine all the way down. Tried both remote valves with hoses hooked up every way with same result, got an idea what would be wrong?

[@Digginok]

That’s kinda the way they are, when you let equipment down the lever is acting on the spool that unseats the ball bearing. If you put a larger bore cylinder on the haybine it would lower the pressure that is required to raise it thus lower the pressure on the ball that seats in the hydraulic valve.

[@chanceryland7184]

@@Digginok hmm… might have to trade it off then! Really don’t like how fast it crashes down, would definitely start wrecking stuff after a day of up and down

[@chanceryland7184]

@@Digginok there is no feathering it down at all sadly, and it’s very hard on it dropping it down like that. Figured maybe there was a relief valve that could be needing replacing!

[@Digginok]

@@chanceryland7184 no relief valve in the down circuit, when the ball is unseated it lets the oil flow back to the trans case. It may be possible to put a one way adjustable flow control valve on the hose. Other than that it’s just try to crack the valve open just a bit. Be sure the lever linkage is oiled and moving free.

[@kellyhines2631]

What is the part number for that seal kit?

[@bombardier3qtrlbpsi]

Nice job on the repair.

[@Digginok]

Thanks!

[@tbearrails9983]

Frank, no need to worry. All great mechanics, that do a great job, then they bleed all over it...!

[@northrockboy]

What is the part number of that kit ? I just asked a local dealer and he quoted me $280 cdn (about $215 us) and it dis t even ha e those small plastic parts in there. We have the same issue with our newly acquired 1175 and 970. Thanks for great video.

[@Digginok]

Yes parts are expensive, best advice I have is find a dealership you can work with, I don’t have the part numbers, they are available online or if you ask for a thermo relief valve they can help you.

[@juztyn00]

I've got a 730 wth a loader that drops when you let off the valve. Both cylinders have been rebuilt. Do you think checking and cleaning the check balls on under the hose elbows will help this problem?

[@Digginok]

Have you tried reversing the hoses to see if it will hold in the other direction? If it will hold in one direction it is usually the plastic relief valves, the steel balls usually are okay, but there is that possibility. Good luck

[@juztyn00]

@@Digginok will try that. thanks for the vid, It looks like its in my skill level to rebuild.

[@Digginok]

@@juztyn00 hard part is getting the valve off the tractor, the rest is very easy

[@lynnredmer755]

Do you how to add three point to my 970? The rockshaft is there but no arms and no lever

[@Digginok]

I’d say that the Facebook groups may have an answer for that. I’m really not sure. Would be need a parts tractor I’d think. Sorry I’m not much help there.

[@lynnredmer755]

@@Digginok thanks

[@jerryhickey904]

Do you know if this is the same valve that is used on a '69 930 Comfort King? It looks very similar, if not the same one.

[@Digginok]

Yes it is! Sorry for the wrong comment earlier.

[@jerryhickey7885]

@@Digginok, I am trying to find shims for the relief valve. Does Case still make them or are there aftermarket shims that can be used?

[@Digginok]

@@jerryhickey7885 I think they are available at case, I have seen guys use washers and such. Usually if the pressure is low it’s a pump problem though.

[@chadgall5868]

Can you tell me were to get the rebuild kit from? Thank you

[@Digginok]

Local Case IH dealer

[@chadgall5868]

Ok thank you

[@MichelleBrown-i9d]

Could you send me the part number of all the gaskets and seals that I would need to rebuild that valve please thanks

[@Digginok]

Email me, [e-mail]

[@Digginok]

I know a guy that has the set he wants to sell, email me

[@briangarland9883]

Nice work!

[@Digginok]

Thanks

[@MarkHulvey]

Hello, I have a 1970 770. Last summer it was working fine using a round baler. Then all of a sudden it wouldn’t open the tailgate on the baler. After testing with another tractor I determined it was the 770. I replaced the pump (new) and the flow divider (used). I have a used remote valve on the way. I can’t find a full kit to rebuild. I took my valve to Caseih dealer and they wouldn’t work on it. They said they didn’t know how to work on it. I am trying the used valve because of that. If the replacement valve doesn’t fix it. What else could be my problem with it. I live in Southeast Tennessee and can’t find anyone to help me out on this. Any help would be appreciated. The most pressure I can get from my remotes is 500 pounds and will only open baler about 1/3 to a 1/2 at most.

[@Digginok]

First off watch this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpe8aauGo8SaiNEfeature=shared Second if that’s not the issue I would try to check pressures on both the up and down on the remotes. If the thermal valve in the remote is bad it will only hold pressure in one direction. I did rebuild a remote for a guy last year, he mailed it up from Texas, and I know another guy that has spare parts for the valve. I can put you in touch with him if you email me. [e-mail]. Hope this helps

[@MarkHulvey]

Thank you. I did fail to mention that this tractor doesn’t have power shift. Is it possible that there could be a restriction at the strainer inside?I have a friend that has a inspection camera. I thought about using it to look inside just to see if I can see anything.

[@MarkHulvey]

Same pressure either direct also.

[@Digginok]

@@MarkHulvey very well could be the strainer, also does it foam the oil? There are two o rings behind the pump on the suction lines. Could also be the relief valve. Standard shift is a bit different

[@MarkHulvey]

I haven’t seen any foaming.

[@MichelleBrown-i9d]

Can you send me the seal kits you got to rebuild the valve

[@CaptKirk1701]

Nice job!

[@Digginok]

Thanks

[@dansevern3291]

I feel your pain on the "pricey" rebuild kit. I just bought two used parts for an old dozer and went to Case for "new gaskets" and the gaskets cost as much as the parts. Ouch.

[@Digginok]

Sometimes it’s worth it to get it right though.

[@dansevern3291]

@@Digginok Especially if you're doing the work because you did something stupid to cause the damage, even though you knew better!

[@Digginok]

Well I’d say we have all been there!

[@Dirtdaddy953]

Great job!

[@Digginok]

Thanks

[@e.l.construction5945]

Dang that craftsman flashlight made that job way easier

[@Digginok]

Yes it did! Thanks

[@charlietanner6211]

fyi if the wrong oil is used in back end can cause brake lineings to flake and plug up everything whole back end apart new brakes

[@Digginok]

That is true on the 90 series, the 70 series 970 had dry brakes. Good information though thanks.

[@Jpaydirt]

Frank..........do you ever swear? I have a friend who is having a problem with a big C and I'm telling him he needs to seek some profesional help. would you be willing to speak with him if I send you his phone number? his name is Brandon ☻

[@Digginok]

Yes Jeff of course I do, I’ve been learning from this guy that loves his Cummings engine. Not sure I can help your friend 😂

[@timebert6141]

@@Digginok I appreciate the fact that you keep a family friendly format on your channel. These videos would be absolutely wonderful for a high school vocational ag program. I wished I had your restraint, I swear more than is becoming of a man who belongs to lodge...

[@mrs.eliteearthworks]

Howdy Frank!

[@Digginok]

Howdy!

[@DC-1]

Howdy Y’all 👍🇺🇸

[@mrs.eliteearthworks]

@@DC-1 Howdy pardner 🤠

[@73DiamondReo]

interesting. never worked on one. sea foam is an expensive test fluid!

[@Digginok]

The book calls for kerosene, sea foam was within reach. 😂 I doesn’t take much. Thanks for watching

[@scruffy6151]

👍👍

[@Digginok]

👍👍

[@groverhart5011]

Cluts !

[@darkwinter6028]

You’re right... that is dumb. They should have just put a regular, reliable pressure relief valve on the cylinder side of the valve body. 🤨

[@Digginok]

Probably cheaper and faster, the way it goes.

[@darkwinter6028]

@@Digginok ...yup.