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Approximately 41,000 people are killed each year due to gun violence. That’s more lives lost to guns than to car accidents. So why do we devote more attention (and money) to car safety than we do gun safety?
As Northwell Health CEO Michael Dowling points out, the deaths are not the whole story. The physical, emotional, and psychological trauma reverberates through communities and the public at-large. “This is not just not about guns,” says Dowling,” this is a serious public health issue and we’ve got to look at it that way.
Hospitals often deal with the aftermath of gun violence, but they can play a key role in preventing it. Medical staff are trained to assess health risk factors. Dowling argues that a similar approach is needed for guns. "We have to be much more holistic in our approach.”
Interested in getting involved? On December 15th, Northwell Health is hosting a hybrid virtual / in-person Gun Violence Prevention Forum, where participants can engage around the shared goal of raising their collective voices and catalyzing action to enact needed systems change. Learn more and register for the public forum here: preventgunviol...
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MICHAEL DOWLING:
Michael J. Dowling is president and chief executive officer of Northwell Health, New York's largest health care provider and private employer, with 23 hospitals, more than 800 outpatient locations, and 75,000+ employees. One of health care's most influential executives, Mr. Dowling has received numerous awards, including the Ellis Island Medal of Honor, an honorary degree from the prestigious Queen's University Belfast and his selection as the Grand Marshal of the 2017 St. Patrick's Day Parade in NYC. He also serves as chair of the Institute for Healthcare Improvement.
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TRANSCRIPT:
MICHAEL DOWLING: Gun violence is a national crisis. We have about 41,000 deaths last year from gun violence. This is just not about guns. This is a serious public health issue. And we had got to look at it that way.
For example, fewer people die from car accidents yet, we've spent an awful lot of time over the last couple of decades, wondering about how do we make cars safe? We didn't ban cars. We figured out how to make them safe. I remember the discussion with Ralph Nader way back when he said, I want to put seat belts in the cars. Everybody said, you're not. We won't be able to afford a car. It will destroy the car industry. The manufacturers can't do it. It's an invasion of privacy. I don't want to have anybody tell me what the hell to do when I sit in my own car. Yet today, try to buy a car without a seatbelt. We got air bags. We got child supports in the car. We have safety standards. It's the same with guns in my view. You can have a gun. Let's figure it out how to use them safely.
Health is a lot more than the absence of illness. And promoting health is a lot more than dealing with medical care. We have to be much more holistic in our approach. And gun violence prevention's part of it.
The effect of guns is not measured by the 41,000 deaths. That's easy to measure, but what are the downstream effects of this, in many of these communities and to the public at large? When you're running a healthcare organization, we see it each and every day. Millions of people end up in the hospital as a result of gun violence. We treat people who come to us with gun injuries. We treat the people that come to us with trauma. We treat mental health issues. We treat domestic violence victims. Over 80% of Americans, believe that something should be done about gun safety, including gun owners. I think people are afraid to talk about it because people automatically jump to the issue of, oh you want to ban guns. I'm not against guns. I'm against the unnecessary ill effect of guns that do terrible harm to people.
We need rational discussions and a call to action on this issue. Now the lessons here, that if we continue to be persistent about the health effects of gun violence, the trauma, the effect on kids, the effect on communities, the effect on all the people, the physical effects, the social effects, the environmental effects, and we continue messaging that over and over and over again, you will make a difference. It will happen. It is time for healthcare leaders that treat gun violence as a public health issue....
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@MrRoboskippy
@MrRoboskippy 3 жыл бұрын
The questions we should be asking are, why are people turning to suicide? Why are so many young men turning to gangs? Work on solving these problems and gun violence will drop dramatically.
@MrPeterbs
@MrPeterbs 3 жыл бұрын
So adding guns to the mix will reduce the violence? Sounds like an NRA talking point
@MrRoboskippy
@MrRoboskippy 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrPeterbs I never said to add guns.
@TravisL.Desmadreson
@TravisL.Desmadreson 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrPeterbs Did you just need to feel dumb or something? (he never said "add guns")
@claytonrealist8868
@claytonrealist8868 2 жыл бұрын
No father in the home is the biggest reason by far.
@jarrettbobbett5230
@jarrettbobbett5230 2 жыл бұрын
Thousands of different factors with hundreds of different answers makes that question almost impossible to answer the way you have asked it. The USA is a messed up place & will take (if all go well) generations to fix the fundamental problems with your outdated laws & constitution. Also the 2 party system is a bad idea that's why every other democracy in the world minus India which is a hole has more then 2 parties. In my humble opinion once you start calling yourself either a democrat or a republication you stop being an American first. Next time some clown asks you which you are, say your a American & let them know the question is offensive.
@breadman32398
@breadman32398 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like the argument revolving around an inanimate object. We don't have a gun violence problem, we have a murder problem and a suicide problem. The conversation would be more accurate and less devisive if discussed like that.
@Reviourt
@Reviourt 3 жыл бұрын
You are the head of police at a Americatown, and you have an unreasonable amount of gun related suicides and homicides. Outside of restricting ease of access to guns, and stopping crime before it happens like Tom Cruise's "Minority Report", what do you think will reduce these levels effectively?
@hewhomrelatestofew1592
@hewhomrelatestofew1592 3 жыл бұрын
i dont necessarily agree with OP but i do agree that mental health should be a priority. the catch is that only a cultural paradigm would fix such rampant mental illness. i believe part of that movement is letting go of the idea that we all need guns. i used to be for it just in case we ever needed to overthrow the government but i saw on january 17th that those idiots are the only ones bold enough to fight for what they believe. guns serve no purpose in the liberal/urban/community mindset.
@SmallFries01
@SmallFries01 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reviourt Then you would have a London stabbing problem. The issue is the mental health of people, not of the weapons they use.
@MrPeterbs
@MrPeterbs 3 жыл бұрын
NRA- No Rational Arguments
@breadman32398
@breadman32398 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reviourt Take steps to reduce proverty levels by attracting jobs and encouraging small business start ups, to reduce crime. Then invest in community improvement buildings and mental health services to reduce depression. Having a stable source of income and sense of belonging in a community I think are the largest causes of crime and depression. A comfortably successful small town with a close knit community is about as close to utopia as you can get.
@AndyKua
@AndyKua 3 жыл бұрын
Don't read the comment section before watching the video.
@rawrmcsaurs6052
@rawrmcsaurs6052 3 жыл бұрын
Poggers
@Keepskatin
@Keepskatin 2 жыл бұрын
@Andrew To stop gun violence would require gun ban and door to door gun confiscation, using the police, military and volunteers. That is the extreme, but most effective way. To reduce gun violence, not eliminate, but significantly reduce: Guns guns America loves guns, got to protect your families, until you get divorced, lose your job, spouse gets you arrested, pressure of the world, then you decide to use that gun to kill your family or innocent others at a supermarket or theater. Gun nut Americans❗ I support guns, but there needs to be very strict laws. Mandatory Psychological evaluation and 3 month waiting period for all guns. You should have to register with the federal, state and local police for each firearm, and they must have a photo of each firearm on file. You must recertify your psychological evaluation every year, including police officers. The paychologic evaluation must be performed by government certified psychologist trained to evaluate gun purchasers. This is the only way to reduce gun deaths without banning guns.
@perpetualgrimace
@perpetualgrimace 3 жыл бұрын
Death by car is a side effect of driving a car. Death by gun is exactly what a gun was designed to do. No comparison.
@ziziroberts8041
@ziziroberts8041 3 жыл бұрын
And then there's drunk driving and road rage. Humans have a history of not handling equipment properly.
@theglitchcounter264
@theglitchcounter264 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, not like guns aren’t just to kill PEOPLE. It’s not like the southern us is plagued with animals that would require a gun with more than 12 45. Rounds. Guns are necessary.
@HaloForgeUltra
@HaloForgeUltra 3 жыл бұрын
Tell that to terrorists who drive over crowds with vans. They seem to do it well enough.
@JamesRPatrick
@JamesRPatrick 3 жыл бұрын
This offered zero solutions.
@claytonrealist8868
@claytonrealist8868 2 жыл бұрын
I have noticed that videos on Big Think not only don't offer solutions but they many times don't answer the questions in the titles.
@cptndunsel2670
@cptndunsel2670 2 жыл бұрын
This guy reminds me about that qoute about politicians. How they can spend alot of time talking, without really saying anything.
@karlbeat
@karlbeat 3 жыл бұрын
Q: How to reduce gun violence without taking people's gun? A: We need to do something. We need to do something. We need to do something. We need to do something. We need to do something.
@BassandoForte
@BassandoForte 3 жыл бұрын
Explain to all gun owners why they're pu$$ie$ and should learm to fight like men - It as easy as that... 🤣
@Keepskatin
@Keepskatin 2 жыл бұрын
@Karlbeat Guns guns America loves guns, got to protect your families, until you get divorced, lose your job, spouse gets you arrested, pressure of the world, then you decide to use that gun to kill your family or innocent others at a supermarket or theater. Gun nut Americans❗ I support guns, but there needs to be very strict laws. Mandatory Psychological evaluation and 3 month waiting period for all guns. You should have to register with the federal, state and local police for each firearm, and they must have a photo of each firearm on file. You must recertify your psychological evaluation every year, including police officers. The paychologic evaluation must be performed by government certified psychologist trained to evaluate gun purchasers. This is the only way to reduce gun deaths without banning guns.
@blt981
@blt981 Жыл бұрын
@@Keepskatin registration means eventual confiscation. There should be more training. Safety issues. More public ranges, simulators. Guns are part of America, or forefathers put the 2nd 🎉Amendment in ou😅constitution so we can fight back in the eve our government becomes tyrannical. Remember they just fought against King Georges Army of England. Enforce the laws we have on the books }, we are way too easy on criminals because of prosecution reform by Liberal DAs. When Feinstein was mayor of SF. She stood by her police achieves and stated. Use a gun go to prison…
@Keepskatin
@Keepskatin Жыл бұрын
@@blt981 No it doesn't you delusional person. Registration means you have passed the necessary requirements to operate, and your identity and location can be determined in the event you commit a crime. Registration is required for .. any things in life such as gun permit, school iD, driver license, building permit, hunting, voting, it's absolutely necessary. What do you have to hide.
@blt981
@blt981 Жыл бұрын
@@Keepskatin can’t we debate. Without personal INSULTS. PLEASE BE AN ADULT ..THATS WHATS WRONG WIH THE LEFT DONT AGREE AND THEY STRACK YOU VERBALLY WHEN YOU DEBATE NBZCK, VIOLENCE. IM GLAD A HAVE GUNS . I AM INCHARGE OF PROTECTING ME AND MY LOVED ONES..NOT THE GOVERNMENT… ELSE,
@bsmithhammer
@bsmithhammer 3 жыл бұрын
What he fails to mention is that gun-related homicides just barely exceeded auto-related deaths for the first time last year. Of course, that doesn't minimize the importance of those numbers, but it's important to put into context. No one was losing their minds and clamoring for banning cars just a couple years ago when more people were dying in auto accidents. It's also important to note that 60% of gun-related deaths are suicides, not homicides. And the latter are largely related to other crimes like drug-dealing, etc. (and "mass shootings" are still only a tiny single-digit fraction of that leftover 40% despite all the media amplification). Third, it's also important to look at the map in terms of putting gun violence in context - this is not something that is happening uniformly across the country, nor something that affects all Americans equally, by any means. The vast majority of gun-related violence is happening in very specific, largely urban, focal points. With that in mind, I don't believe a blanket, federal approach will work, nor see widespread support. I am by all means in support of taking meaningful steps to save lives. But legislation based on spin, hype and misunderstandings are not going to help with that. We have to talk facts. And there ARE facts around this issue, they just don't seem to get used all that much.
@TravisL.Desmadreson
@TravisL.Desmadreson 3 жыл бұрын
Your comment trumps this "air head" video!! a doctor says this, says that... mumbojumbo!
@Keepskatin
@Keepskatin 2 жыл бұрын
@MC Hammer67 Guns guns America loves guns, got to protect your families, until you get divorced, lose your job, spouse gets you arrested, pressure of the world, then you decide to use that gun to kill your family or innocent others at a supermarket or theater. Gun nut Americans❗ I support guns, but there needs to be very strict laws. Mandatory Psychological evaluation and 3 month waiting period for all guns. You should have to register with the federal, state and local police for each firearm, and they must have a photo of each firearm on file. You must recertify your psychological evaluation every year, including police officers. The paychologic evaluation must be performed by government certified psychologist trained to evaluate gun purchasers. This is the only way to reduce gun deaths without banning guns.
@b.b.927
@b.b.927 Жыл бұрын
@@Keepskatin You have literally no idea what you're talking about.
@loganwilliams9104
@loganwilliams9104 Жыл бұрын
@@Keepskatin The primary reason why guns were implemented into the constitution was incase the people needed to defend themselves from a tyrannical government.
@Keepskatin
@Keepskatin Жыл бұрын
@@loganwilliams9104 That reason is long gone. Your guns are useless against the firepower the military has. Times change and so has your racist Constitution 🍑 💩 📜
@michaeljacob5571
@michaeljacob5571 3 жыл бұрын
Listening to Mr. Dowling made me feel good. Didn't hear any substantive solutions. But I feel good.
@oleg4966
@oleg4966 3 жыл бұрын
Look at their website. Their substantive solutions are, in a nutshell, "let's research X, Y and Z". On the other hand... if they draw public support from the extreme "ban ALL the guns, guns kill people" and "sell ALL the guns, an armed society is a polite society" positions to their more moderate one, then that's good enough, I suppose. And I don't think there's that much research on ways to curb gun violence through social work, so I can see why they're not making any proposals: there simply isn't enough information to determine what will work and what won't.
@AnonYmous-mw5lc
@AnonYmous-mw5lc 3 жыл бұрын
How I feel about Fauci.
@Enkeria
@Enkeria 3 жыл бұрын
Q: How to reduce gun violence without taking people's gun? A: Make no bullets.
@luckybassturd7260
@luckybassturd7260 3 жыл бұрын
If black market ammunition takes off more people die from bad ammo. Ammo cut with Fentanyl will not work well… 😂 Right now we are coming out of ammo shortage… 2years ago 9mm was less than .20 cents a pop ,a few months back it was over a dollar a round! I didn’t loose any ammo in the mean time & it’s all still good ammo! I have surplus ammo in spam cans dating back to Korean war & the 70’s … I bought it low priced & I can sell it/trade it for twice what I paid… it’s a investment that is also useful if needed!
@Enkeria
@Enkeria 3 жыл бұрын
@@luckybassturd7260 Bad ammo? Ammo is ammo. Its too late anyways. Guns exist, ammo exist. Its a lost cause.
@michaelossig9780
@michaelossig9780 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is a good approach, but one that could get easily taken advantage of by an overbearing government. You have to regain the trust of the people before they will willingly submit this information to a government agency
@tinyNorman
@tinyNorman 3 жыл бұрын
Congress has explicitly forbidden the CDC from studying gun violence. This is why it has been going nowhere. CDC is one of the best organizations placed to do this kind of data gathering and analysis.
@blt981
@blt981 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. As I have completed a 34 yr LE carrier I see how money spent on special equipment can be used against innocent citizens.
@blt981
@blt981 Жыл бұрын
@@tinyNorman you got to be kidding . Remember Covid, they lied to us constantly . With Dr Ouchie. In cahoots with Pharma. You trust this administration way too much. Take your head out of the sand….
@hillbillyscholar8126
@hillbillyscholar8126 3 жыл бұрын
Cream of Nothing right there. I was expecting concrete proposals. How about accepting that there is no political solution to a spiritual problem? How about rejecting worthless ideology in these communities and resolving to accept that silence is not acceptance, kindness is not weakness and that fear is not respect?
@GBM0311
@GBM0311 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry he can help he just needs money.
@MrPeterbs
@MrPeterbs 3 жыл бұрын
Your user name tells us all we need to know- Jethro.
@hillbillyscholar8126
@hillbillyscholar8126 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrPeterbs I see the trolls have arrived.
@bloodcarnage8285
@bloodcarnage8285 3 жыл бұрын
What about people dying from drugs Or alcohol. ? Ban them too? What about people's lives ruined because of addiction of any sort. These things cause more damage to society than guns. Guns keep democracy alive.
@MrPeterbs
@MrPeterbs 3 жыл бұрын
@@bloodcarnage8285 keep democracy alive'? When everyone is dead? And who said ban alcohol, drugs or guns? Regulation isn't a 'ban' but such nuances will go flying over the head of someone with the user name 'Blood Carnage' (incel name if ever I've seen one- lol!).
@kevinadcock8271
@kevinadcock8271 3 жыл бұрын
"we need to do something. We need to do something. We need to do something" do what? All I heard was ask patients about guns. That's it? Didn't address the leading causes of gun violence (gang shootings and suicides). You'd think he'd at least mention the suicide epidemic as a health professional.
@nytehawx
@nytehawx 3 жыл бұрын
So why dont we address POVERTY! That's the leading cause of gang violence
@MrPeterbs
@MrPeterbs 3 жыл бұрын
The US has no more of a suicide epidemic than any other developed nation-- in fact Japan has a much greater problem yet far fewer gun deaths.
@claytonrealist8868
@claytonrealist8868 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrPeterbs Guns don't die nor do they do anything at all but sit in place. People are needed to make a gun operate.
@claytonrealist8868
@claytonrealist8868 2 жыл бұрын
@@nytehawx We do address poverty with all of the handouts given to people. In the USA we have spent tens of billions of dollars to help people out of poverty but the one thing you can't give the poor is the belief that they can get out of poverty given the chance. Not having a father in the home is the biggest cause of poverty and until that is somehow fixed there is nothing you can do.
@Fnidner
@Fnidner 2 жыл бұрын
@@claytonrealist8868 Handouts don't make you NOT poor. Having a job earning a living wage does. But alas, Americans are to short-sighted to hand out jobs instead.
@VKSgtSLaughter
@VKSgtSLaughter 3 жыл бұрын
Remember kids... The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun... is a good guy with a gun.
@MrPeterbs
@MrPeterbs 3 жыл бұрын
Sure dude. Which is why -on average - 100 cops get shot every year in the US.
@MrPeterbs
@MrPeterbs 3 жыл бұрын
@@dasfahrer8187 yes and why hundreds of thousands of people are shot each year in Japan, Canada, Australia, the UK, Europe.....oh.....wait.....:).
@TravisL.Desmadreson
@TravisL.Desmadreson 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrPeterbs Lmao @ goofy number on average!!
@TravisL.Desmadreson
@TravisL.Desmadreson 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrPeterbs What's up with all the stabbing over there?? Not so sterile is it?
@TravisL.Desmadreson
@TravisL.Desmadreson 3 жыл бұрын
Great point, also it is funny how the mainstream media under-reports when a good guy with a gun helped save himself or another. Lastly... strict gun regulation is just regulation on lawful ppl. "outlaws", by definition, will not give two shits, hence not having an impact on them! Just infringing on the lawful citizens. Cheers to you. (2nd amendment strong)
@tylerbradshaw7957
@tylerbradshaw7957 3 жыл бұрын
Me: This guy seems like a straight talker, down-to-business type of guy. Guy: Solve gun violence by building coalitions. Me: *facepalm*
@TravisL.Desmadreson
@TravisL.Desmadreson 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahha Nailed it!! 2nd A strong!
@cptndunsel2670
@cptndunsel2670 2 жыл бұрын
This guy reminds me about that qoute about politicians. How they can spend alot of time talking, without really saying anything.
@1LoveGame2
@1LoveGame2 3 жыл бұрын
I know many guns but not one of them is violent. I do know some violent people though...
@ziziroberts8041
@ziziroberts8041 3 жыл бұрын
Learned behavior.
@TravisL.Desmadreson
@TravisL.Desmadreson 3 жыл бұрын
All the cars/guns mentioned in this video are innocent... as well as inanimate! Lmao
@abbastabatabaie9321
@abbastabatabaie9321 3 жыл бұрын
Why don't you address how criminals could stop having guns. No one talks about that, as though it is the victim's fault that a 3 or 4 time convicted Felon who is not supposed to have a gun, in places that ban guns, like New York city, Chicago, and Washington D.C., has a gun to victimize innocent people. Why don't we stop the problem at it's root?
@ExplosiveBurka
@ExplosiveBurka 3 жыл бұрын
How do you do that? They are already breaking the law by getting a gun illegally as a felon
@timlubbers2884
@timlubbers2884 3 жыл бұрын
Because the liberals won't allow it ...
@timlubbers2884
@timlubbers2884 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExplosiveBurka it's called Gulianni's police reforms and rules, which the liberal governors got rid of to secure the criminal vote ... His time as new York governor had new York with the lowest crime rate in the cities history ...
@loc4725
@loc4725 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExplosiveBurka You make gun ownership a responsibility with real, material consequences for breaching. Many countries hold the owner to some degree responsible for the use of the firearms they own, so 'losing' or having a gun stolen is something owners in those countries take great care to avoid.
@bargepoled
@bargepoled 3 жыл бұрын
You realise that it's against US law to even have a database of legal owners? The ATF are restricted to using paper databases as its illegal for them to use computerised data bases to trace guns. Any licensed gun owner who sells to people without completing a back ground check is never jailed. Just a slap on the wrists. You want a change in gun laws in the US? Get rid of the NRA and 2nd amendment crazies. Good luck with that.
@gearsofwar2497
@gearsofwar2497 3 жыл бұрын
Self defense is a human right
@B.Whittaker
@B.Whittaker 3 жыл бұрын
You don’t need a gun to defend yourself
@lumbratile4174
@lumbratile4174 3 жыл бұрын
No it's not. There is the police for that
@Certifiably_Unhinged
@Certifiably_Unhinged 3 жыл бұрын
Confusing concept to some.
@travis4977
@travis4977 3 жыл бұрын
@@B.Whittaker you do when you live in a country with more guns than people.
@travis4977
@travis4977 3 жыл бұрын
@@lumbratile4174 The chance of the police getting to you in time to save your life when you're being attacked is close to zero.
@theparalexview785
@theparalexview785 3 жыл бұрын
We didn't make cars safer for everyone. We made cars safer for drivers and passengers. But pedestrians and cyclists are still at great risk of harm, dramatically so in some regions. The key is how drivers think about others, and their own personal responsibility toward others who are lawfully using shared public infrastructure. As with firearms, the key is minimizing fear, encouraging personal responsibility, and viewing other humans as partners in the society we all want, rather than as nuisances or enemies.
@Keepskatin
@Keepskatin 2 жыл бұрын
@The Parelex Thats the problem, most Americans hate each other, they practice shooting targets of humans and are eager to shoot anyone who argues with them. Yes these Americans are terrible incosiderate drivers who cut bikers off, splash water on them intentionally, accidentally hit bikers and keep driving, and purposely hit bikers too. Guns arent the problem, Americans are the problem.
@Keepskatin
@Keepskatin 2 жыл бұрын
@The Paralex To stop gun violence would require gun ban and door to door gun confiscation, using the police, military and volunteers. That is the extreme, but most effective way. To reduce gun violence, not eliminate, but significantly reduce: Guns guns America loves guns, got to protect your families, until you get divorced, lose your job, spouse gets you arrested, pressure of the world, then you decide to use that gun to kill your family or innocent others at a supermarket or theater. Gun nut Americans❗ I support guns, but there needs to be very strict laws. Mandatory Psychological evaluation and 3 month waiting period for all guns. You should have to register with the federal, state and local police for each firearm, and they must have a photo of each firearm on file. You must recertify your psychological evaluation every year, including police officers. The paychologic evaluation must be performed by government certified psychologist trained to evaluate gun purchasers. This is the only way to reduce gun deaths without banning guns.
@privettoli
@privettoli 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is that you can ban guns for peaceful people but you would never be able to ban them for aggressive people, those will find ways and have them anyway, all countries around the world is the proof, Russia has the strongest gun control and more problems with illegal usage of guns.
@MrPeterbs
@MrPeterbs 3 жыл бұрын
Japan has the strictest gun laws and almost zero 'illegal usage of guns'.
@TheAegisClaw
@TheAegisClaw 3 жыл бұрын
In the UK we have extremely strict gun laws and very little gun crime. Your argument doesn't match the reality.
@MrPeterbs
@MrPeterbs 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAegisClaw -these gun cultists can't handle reality, obviously.
@cptndunsel2670
@cptndunsel2670 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAegisClaw And London is the acid attack capital of the western world. People who are dead set on causing harm will find ways to do it, regardless.
@cptndunsel2670
@cptndunsel2670 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrPeterbs This comment aged well.
@ralsharp6013
@ralsharp6013 3 жыл бұрын
We need a jolly good reason to own a gun in Australia and we must be licenced. After Martin Bryant massacred folk in Tasmania, our gun laws changed. Less accidents concerning siblings playing with dads guns, less suicides and murder. Less police getting shot! Less wives in domestic violent situations being murdered ect... People are unpredictable, thousands of people have proven this fact..
@nokoolaid
@nokoolaid 3 жыл бұрын
And what's the violent crime rates like RE assault, rape, stabbings? Might be an interesting metric. Yes, fewer people get shot, but I'd bet violence doesn't decrease.
@ilovetech8341
@ilovetech8341 Жыл бұрын
Yet your crime rates have not decreased.
@coryobrien8154
@coryobrien8154 3 жыл бұрын
He had nothing to say except stating the obvious issues with gun violence. This was just some out of touch doctor that has zero understanding of gun culture as well as many other societal complexities. The change needs to be cultural, which is a generational struggle. Its not necessarily education, safe gun handling doesnt equate to less gun deaths. That is a purely moronic mentality
@kaitlyn8772
@kaitlyn8772 3 жыл бұрын
Guns were designed to kill. Cars weren’t. They aren’t the same and thus shouldn’t be compared
@Reviourt
@Reviourt 3 жыл бұрын
People should be allowed guns, they just have to pass reasonable levels of education and capability first, like a car licence: Driving school, eye test (gun safety school, 52 signed sessions at a club, mental health and screen check). They should also abide by societal safety standards when they use them, like speed limits, dui, and road worthy vehicle (shooting only at clubs or private land, meet use and storage expectations, only bolt/ break action). I think time, money, and restrictions weed out the true enthusiasts from the impulse gun owner.
@TravisL.Desmadreson
@TravisL.Desmadreson 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reviourt Wrong! USA has gun RIGHTS. Cars are a privilege.
@rawrmcsaurs6052
@rawrmcsaurs6052 3 жыл бұрын
But cars kill more people than guns....
@waddadawd
@waddadawd 3 жыл бұрын
“Health is a lot more than the absence of illness” Maybe you should try telling line that to the doctors and politicians who closed schools, gyms, bars, sports, colleges, threw millions into unemployment for over half a year. That probably had a small effect on the overall health in the world.
@ziziroberts8041
@ziziroberts8041 3 жыл бұрын
I pray for senseless fear to cease and be at peace. People are suffering. Everywhere.
@KBosch-xp2ut
@KBosch-xp2ut 2 жыл бұрын
True…. But more so in USA than anywhere else. Your neighbour to the north is way safer, much less gun violence and yet has plenty of access to guns still.
@deeveevideos
@deeveevideos Жыл бұрын
@@KBosch-xp2ut what about the south of USA?
@KBosch-xp2ut
@KBosch-xp2ut Жыл бұрын
@@deeveevideos You may want to set your goals higher than a poor nation like Mexico. But if you want to measure success like that, fill yer boots.
@deeveevideos
@deeveevideos Жыл бұрын
@@KBosch-xp2ut You're the one bringing up other countries. So do you just ignore all the ones you don't like with all the brown people? And if I wanted to live in Canada I would. But they have their own problems. Usually the only good thing they say Canada has this universal health Care but I get that in the United States as a native American and it fucking sucks. And if they can't even do it correctly for such a small minority of people I don't know why people think they can do it for the rest of the country.
@KBosch-xp2ut
@KBosch-xp2ut Жыл бұрын
@@deeveevideos Why not compare yourself to Somalia then? America is great compared to Somalia and Mexico. With any other western democratic country though, it’s awful. Set your sights and goals a little higher.
@wilsoncruz1952
@wilsoncruz1952 3 ай бұрын
Not once did he address the criminal element, and the factors that criminals have in common.
@timlubbers2884
@timlubbers2884 3 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as gun violence ... There is only people violence, and they use guns because they are easier than using their teeth (like the rest of the wild animals) ... Before guns they had bow and arrows, before that spears and before that clubs ... Human violence is the issue, not the tool ...
@Smile-do1jv
@Smile-do1jv 3 жыл бұрын
It is certainly an issue you can do much more damage with a gun than a knife hence the need to regulate them more heavily to prevent firearms from ending up in the hands of violent people
@timlubbers2884
@timlubbers2884 3 жыл бұрын
@@Smile-do1jv the problem though is that is not what is happening ... They are trying to restrict good law abiding citizens from having certain guns instead of stopping the ones that shouldn't ... 99% of the gun owners in this country are law abiding ... the liberal/democrat wants to restrict the 99 to stop the 1 ...
@bloodcarnage8285
@bloodcarnage8285 3 жыл бұрын
Fix drug and alcohol problems first . Then come back to guns. If you are a doctor then you need to keep your priorities straight and fix the most dangerous one first
@aiartbx
@aiartbx 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what percentage of gun violence is due to alcohol and drug abuse.
@bloodcarnage8285
@bloodcarnage8285 3 жыл бұрын
@@aiartbx yes.. this guy is crazy.. a doctor advocating for gun violence instead of alcohol/drug abuse. These guys only care about their agenda. 🤨
@sunflowerz54
@sunflowerz54 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe keep violent repeat offenders in jail???
@edenassos
@edenassos 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe throw them in a bunker somewhere and throw away the keys.
@MrPeterbs
@MrPeterbs 3 жыл бұрын
We incarcerate more people than any other country in the world. Try again.
@TheAegisClaw
@TheAegisClaw 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrPeterbs I was just going to point that out...
@MrPeterbs
@MrPeterbs 3 жыл бұрын
NRA- No Rational Arguments
@MrPeterbs
@MrPeterbs 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAegisClaw -they never present facts -just lies and false equivalencies.
@Jinka1950
@Jinka1950 3 жыл бұрын
This is an easy answer. Quit paying women to have babies without fathers in the house !!!!
@gloomydaysunshine8656
@gloomydaysunshine8656 3 жыл бұрын
Wtaf
@lumbratile4174
@lumbratile4174 3 жыл бұрын
Lol what the fuck
@vmanshooting
@vmanshooting 3 жыл бұрын
What was the solution?
@mayiofferyousomealternativ7205
@mayiofferyousomealternativ7205 3 жыл бұрын
I live in California. Sadly there are people arrested by the police who are felons and found to have a gun(s). They're not legally allowed to have them. Often times raids of the illegal pot farms of which there are many (not only for reasons on environmental damage, but possible trafficking as reasons for the raids) they find illegal guns, ones with the serial numbers scratched off. Sadly people are breaking the gun laws in a state with stricter laws then many others. I'm not against regulations, but they only work so much.
@krisklev
@krisklev 3 жыл бұрын
Doctors against gun violence?....is anyone pro gun violence? 😂
@krisklev
@krisklev 3 жыл бұрын
@@dasfahrer8187 democrats love the violence and murder that takes place. And they love little sheep that fall for all their tricks
@dasfahrer8187
@dasfahrer8187 3 жыл бұрын
@@krisklev Their bread and butter certainly is chaos and anarchy. They thrive on it.
@TravisL.Desmadreson
@TravisL.Desmadreson 3 жыл бұрын
This "Dr" is just another sold out puppet! He should be penalized for practicing politics as a, I assume, medical dr.
@salignozzi4847
@salignozzi4847 3 жыл бұрын
What about smoking or hospital maltreatment. Both killed more people than guns last year.
@billgoodman5614
@billgoodman5614 Жыл бұрын
How about talking about medical malpractice? That is 250,000 lives lost a year. Fix that then talk about guns.
@theobolt250
@theobolt250 3 жыл бұрын
Another thing: all I heard was "we got to talk about...". But not ONE CONCRETE PROPOSAL was made! How do you this wil work? Nontheless, more attention for this problem, working on awareness, drawing people in on how to deal with this in itself is a good thing. I come back at my comparison to smoking. That was also a long term project, starting in the late sixties, early seventies and only the last decade we see that tobacco is deminishing. It starts with working on awareness. But still, what steps? How? I like to hear more of that.
@TravisL.Desmadreson
@TravisL.Desmadreson 3 жыл бұрын
It was a blatant fluff piece! Fodder for the sleepy sheep! 2nd A strong!
@luckybassturd7260
@luckybassturd7260 3 жыл бұрын
He thinks cars are safe now?
@tashgodoffools
@tashgodoffools 3 жыл бұрын
They are obviously lying... I feel they reduce the effects of their propaganda because of it...
@leebrock4783
@leebrock4783 3 жыл бұрын
You don't cars are safer now than they used to be?
@travis4977
@travis4977 3 жыл бұрын
His point was that we've made them safer.
@tashgodoffools
@tashgodoffools 3 жыл бұрын
@@travis4977 Google truck of peace then tell me how safe cars are... Also fyi most modern guns have at least one if not multiple safety mechanisms...
@travis4977
@travis4977 3 жыл бұрын
@@tashgodoffools So you don't believe cars are safer now than they used to be? Because they objectively are, and that's all I was clarifying. I know that, what does it have to do with anything I said? A firearm, like a car, is as safe as the person using it.
@clrobinson1776
@clrobinson1776 3 жыл бұрын
And the answer is?
@stevenl378
@stevenl378 3 жыл бұрын
He said a whole lot of nothing 🤷‍♂️
@TravisL.Desmadreson
@TravisL.Desmadreson 3 жыл бұрын
The damn near definition of "lip service".
@VKSgtSLaughter
@VKSgtSLaughter 3 жыл бұрын
If they would just enforce the gun laws that already exist, instead of doing the "catch and release" program, the world would be a safer place. Good video 👍
@emicadic
@emicadic 3 жыл бұрын
Cars are not designed and built to hurt or kill. There is a big difference between cars and guns!
@jackthebassman1
@jackthebassman1 3 жыл бұрын
Gun idiots know that but refuse to admit it.
@ilovetech8341
@ilovetech8341 Жыл бұрын
This guy is seriously trying to imply that cars are safer than guns?
@ayoubsbai6339
@ayoubsbai6339 3 жыл бұрын
I am not rigorously arguing with or against gun control but I just want to underlie an issue about one of his statements, I do think that the car-belt analogy is broken. From a teleological perspective, cars are intrinsically made for driving and not for killing, so it makes sense that we need to optimize them by making them safe let alone the fact that in such a case, safety is effortless and ''practical'' to be precise to obtain. Guns however, are intrinsically made for killing others; be that defending oneself or mindlessly slaughtering people, you've got to admit it, it is just what they are essentially made for and that is killing. So, I think seeking safe uses is practically hard. I am not saying it's impossible but it's hard as it lacks a substantive solution and instead falls a victim of speculation and idealization let alone the flaws of psychiatric diagnosis which are a common thing ( I mean come on, people can pretend to be fine if they will ). On here, i am arguing for gun control: I do understand that guns are not harmful in themselves as that depends on who uses them, their essence is a posteriori so to speak and is externalized, which in our case humans, is not very safe as we are not good species to begin with, and it's bold from someone to assume we are ( just take a glimpse at history ). The human mind is not linear, at least not from the theories we have till now on how it works. For the defense gun-use argument, just one question : If someone is trying to use gun for self-defense from, say a thief, what if the thief is also using a gun to do harm ? To put it in a precise question, who's more dangerous ? a thief without gun or a thief with gun ? Of course the latter, because chances are high that harm will take place let alone the fact that millions of kids in school in comparison to individuals with guns for self-defense, are vulnerable, unprepared and are not capable of self-defense, which makes self-defense very anti-Utilitarian.
@rawrmcsaurs6052
@rawrmcsaurs6052 3 жыл бұрын
Problem with gun control is that the thief would still have methods to get the gun, but the home owner dont.
@ayoubsbai6339
@ayoubsbai6339 3 жыл бұрын
@@rawrmcsaurs6052 I agree! But that's possible given guns are available to begin with, or given that the gun control is not efficient enough to prevent these sort of things. See? It's a double edged problem after all. Thanks for the reply
@nanszoo3092
@nanszoo3092 3 жыл бұрын
@@rawrmcsaurs6052 From your comment it appears that you believe that Nobody would be able to get guns, but from my understanding of most of the debates, most people WOULD be able to get a gun, they would just have to register it - like a car, fishing or hunting license and/or perhaps buy insurance - like a car or a house with a mortgage. Yes, those requirements infringe on one's right to go get a gun this afternoon without interference, but our society, perhaps, requires that at this point in time. And Maybe, requiring those things would ultimately make it just enough harder to keep more of the guns from petty criminals that it could make a bit of difference there too. Maybe, IDK, just a thought.
@rawrmcsaurs6052
@rawrmcsaurs6052 3 жыл бұрын
​@@nanszoo3092 i mean you already require a need to have a license before you could own a gun, most gun shops already trace their guns via ids. the problem with registration lies in that its a way for the government to take guns away, not for them to ensure people's safety. Hence why responsible gun owners are against that.
@nanszoo3092
@nanszoo3092 3 жыл бұрын
@@rawrmcsaurs6052 I mean universal licensing and background checks. If I get caught driving an unregistered car, I will be ticketed at the least. If I do it multiple times they will impound the car and give me a room for the night. If I can afford it and comply with the law (by registering and insuring it), I'll get the car back. But the police don't take cars away from people who mess up once (or twice) or those who follow the laws ... I'm advocating for a law that covers everyone, not just the responsible people who follow the current guidelines. And honestly, I personally wouldn't mind a proficiency/knowledge-of-the-law test to prove that someone IS likely to be responsible and understands the power of a firearm. But that is all a pipe dream anyway.
@michael2275
@michael2275 3 жыл бұрын
If everyone had a gun including all the 'good' people then problem solved.
@alephmorricone7207
@alephmorricone7207 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but unnecessary shooting will go way up
@linxdeal
@linxdeal 3 жыл бұрын
Good, willing, and trained. Then we need to raise people who don’t believe the world owes them something.
@B.Whittaker
@B.Whittaker 3 жыл бұрын
This isn’t the 1800’s buddy
@collectionofatoms1876
@collectionofatoms1876 3 жыл бұрын
The majority of gun deaths in the USA are suicides. If everyone had a gun we'd see an increase in gun violence as well
@michael2275
@michael2275 3 жыл бұрын
@@collectionofatoms1876 And they couldn't kill themselves without a gun...gun is a just a tool.
@enieh112
@enieh112 3 жыл бұрын
You can't compare guns and cars in this way.. It's the intention that separates. What is the purpose of a bullet? Intimidation, wounding and fatality. Yet it always comes down to the shooters intention, none of which the person can do without aiming.
@entropy11
@entropy11 3 жыл бұрын
more "we have to do something" without actually suggesting a solution. Protip: When you don't actually present a plan, those with an agenda will happily propose one for you. Disgraceful video. about 2/3 of gun deaths are suicides. Mental health and wellness is the overwhelming factor in gun deaths. We can start there. There's a lot we can do and it isn't even that hard. But as gun suicides are largely an adult white male problem, there isn't much social capital in addressing it. As a health professional you should be laser-focused on this issue, and screaming to the sky for something to be done about the state of mental health treatment in this country. Crime is the rest, and is focused almost to exclusivity into poor, predominantly black neighborhoods. Why? Lots of socioeconomic reasons that come around to drugs, dead ends and hopelessness.
@MrPeterbs
@MrPeterbs 3 жыл бұрын
Japan has a much greater suicide problem yet dramatically less gun crime . So take your tired old NRA lies elsewhere.
@CoolHandLuke87
@CoolHandLuke87 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrPeterbs he's not wrong though what he's saying is to isolate the different reasons for gun violence and fix them
@MrPeterbs
@MrPeterbs 3 жыл бұрын
@@CoolHandLuke87 ​ -not sure which 'he' you're referring to? The OP 'entropy' is the one calling the video 'disgraceful'. Does that sound like rational inquiry to you?
@CoolHandLuke87
@CoolHandLuke87 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrPeterbs entropy
@CoolHandLuke87
@CoolHandLuke87 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrPeterbs but he has a valid point what solutions does this video provide
@stevekowalski7453
@stevekowalski7453 3 жыл бұрын
Comparing seat belts in cars, and guns……..1 is in the constitution, the other not so much.
@B.Whittaker
@B.Whittaker 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe that’s because cars weren’t a thing at the time the constitution was written…
@typoholic
@typoholic 3 жыл бұрын
You mean the part that talks about, “In order to establish a well-regulated militia…”? That part? That part that’s been solved by a National Guard system. They’re one-in-the-same. A government has the ability to regulate. And just to be on the same page, it’s not guns and cars being compared, it’s changing people’s perceptions of them. Specifically, how to make them safer.
@collectionofatoms1876
@collectionofatoms1876 3 жыл бұрын
And nowhere in the constitution does it say that you can own "any" gun, just that you can own multiple.
@typoholic
@typoholic 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a false argument. Nuclear weapons weren’t invented then either, or tanks, but a government still has the right to regulate those.
@TravisL.Desmadreson
@TravisL.Desmadreson 3 жыл бұрын
@@collectionofatoms1876 Anything an active-service military man can have on him.. a civilian can. (by law)
@tropicalco2339
@tropicalco2339 3 жыл бұрын
I'm also worried about knife violence, poison violence, automobile violence, fist violence, knee violence, foot violence, pepper spray violence, and many others. Please help them!
@GSXK4
@GSXK4 3 жыл бұрын
An inanimate object has never and will never jump up and kill a single person. What about the 10's of thousands of lives SAVED by firearms EVERY YEAR.
@user-dw4cv3xq5u
@user-dw4cv3xq5u 3 жыл бұрын
2 million*
@VKSgtSLaughter
@VKSgtSLaughter 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly 👍
@B.Whittaker
@B.Whittaker 3 жыл бұрын
Saved by firearms? Isn’t it worth noting that the thing they’re being saved from is other people with firearms?
@TheSteve285
@TheSteve285 3 жыл бұрын
People are not playing the object, it is a stupid argument. We trying to prevent idiots and criminals getting access to instrument of death.
@TheSteve285
@TheSteve285 3 жыл бұрын
@Trayvon Sheniqua Martin I think you would find most leftist dont own guns and do so by choice. So not much point of that.
@EagleEye88
@EagleEye88 3 жыл бұрын
The most effective way to deal with gun violence, is strictly enforcing the laws already on the books that we have always had. Unconstitutional gun laws need to be wiped off the books completely! Unfortunately in left wing controlled blue states with the strictest gun laws, the gun crime is at its highest because the laws that were already there were never really enforced. Repeat offenders are let back out on the streets without any real harsh punishments. No point of adding new laws if you aren’t even going to enforce the ones that were already on the books. Laws mean nothing on paper if there is no action to enforce them.
@Keepskatin
@Keepskatin 2 жыл бұрын
@EagledEyeCherry The laws on the books are inadequate 🙇🏿‍♂️❗ To stop gun violence would require gun ban and door to door gun confiscation, using the police, military and volunteers. That is the extreme, but most effective way. To reduce gun violence, not eliminate, but significantly reduce: Guns guns America loves guns, got to protect your families, until you get divorced, lose your job, spouse gets you arrested, pressure of the world, then you decide to use that gun to kill your family or innocent others at a supermarket or theater. Gun nut Americans❗ I support guns, but there needs to be very strict laws. Mandatory Psychological evaluation and 3 month waiting period for all guns. You should have to register with the federal, state and local police for each firearm, and they must have a photo of each firearm on file. You must recertify your psychological evaluation every year, including police officers. The paychologic evaluation must be performed by government certified psychologist trained to evaluate gun purchasers. This is the only way to reduce gun deaths without banning guns.
@EagleEye88
@EagleEye88 2 жыл бұрын
@@Keepskatin After seeing the horrors in Ukraine I’ll pass on your ideas. More people worldwide have been murdered by tyrannical governments who instilled these tyrannical laws and disarmed the people.. Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Xinping, Putin, Un, all passed the kinds of laws you’re talking about. All of them are murderous dictators who rule with iron fists, and commit crimes against humanity. The 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution is 100% clear. The best way to control a populace, is to disarm them in every way. Guns are here to stay in America, and the majority of American people are not supporting more gun laws.
@Keepskatin
@Keepskatin 2 жыл бұрын
@@EagleEye88 the horror in Ukraine is caused by an evil leader of Russia. Your puny guns are useless in a war against any nation with an aiforce, or navy, or guided missiles. Without American military weapons Russia woukd have conquered Ukraine by now , because guns are pathetic against any modern army. Your guns are damn near useless in modern war.
@EagleEye88
@EagleEye88 2 жыл бұрын
@@Keepskatin 1 minute ago @Keepskatin Keepskatin Ok..Friendo…if guns are useless…why are you worried about it? Leave us Americans the fuck alone. We got away from Britain and Europe in the 1700’s for good reason. We live how the fuck we wanna live and have the US Constitution as the current law of the land. The 2nd Amendment is clear! Crawl back to your little stone in the EU or the UK I don’t give a shit. Guns aren’t going anywhere, and when the shit hits the fan American patriots can fight back guns blazin. Give us liberty or give us death! The EU and UK can keep their dirty little noses out of our business.
@Keepskatin
@Keepskatin 2 жыл бұрын
@@EagleEye88 You are not a smart person, and comparing the 1700s to 2022🤷🏾‍♂️. Its a waste of time explaining to such a stubborn low IQ person.
@jameskulevich8907
@jameskulevich8907 3 жыл бұрын
There are more violent crimes with knives. Let take away all knives or teach people how to use knives.
@nanszoo3092
@nanszoo3092 3 жыл бұрын
You can only stab one person at a time with a knife. Not that that isn't bad enough, but not quite the same.
@nilsvuitton9630
@nilsvuitton9630 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is, we didn't ban cars because they are means of transporting yourself and others from a point A to a point B. Yes, they were dangerous, but that's not what they were meant to be, therefore we just had to make them safe. It was only a problem of design and composition. Whereas guns are MADE to harm. It's their ultimate purpose. Therfore, they can't be safe without changing what they are. Now I agree, it is mainly a problem of health here. It's growing, and it's threatening many aspects of our modern societies. Still i think we can fight it, but not erase it. There will always be something wrong as long a we want to continue living with a huge amount of people we don't (and can't) know.
@enieh112
@enieh112 3 жыл бұрын
A: cheaper and lighter kevlar
@pheemer
@pheemer 3 жыл бұрын
Number one: Stop using the term: "Gun Violence"!
@enieh112
@enieh112 3 жыл бұрын
The term seem sound enough for the concept. No? What name would you give it?
@pheemer
@pheemer 3 жыл бұрын
@@enieh112 Are you serious? It's fucking people shooting each other!!! Human Beings!! Stop sanitizing reality with your politically correct language!
@TravisL.Desmadreson
@TravisL.Desmadreson 3 жыл бұрын
@@enieh112 You must be kidding! an inanimate object can not impose itself on you, hence no such thing as "gun violence". It is simply violence or human NATURE. Ppl like you, blame the fork for obesity, blame pencils for misspelled words, the keyboard at fault for typos..... gravity killed that guy that jumped lololololol flawed logic/language!
@enieh112
@enieh112 3 жыл бұрын
@@pheemer what do you know about guns? I know basically only that it's point-n-shoot. So the frightening thing is it's makeup of using the worlds physics to scare, wound or kill. This means it's basically a tool meant to make wounding or killing that much easier. It's best selling point is the added protection, but seeing as how "gun violence" IS a term, humans just haven't been responsible with this.
@enieh112
@enieh112 3 жыл бұрын
@@TravisL.Desmadreson "ppl like you" are assuming too much. Flawed logic indeed. (yes, this comment is designed to make you angry so your next rebuttal will be filled with bad language and apparent trollings)
@stevenscott2136
@stevenscott2136 3 жыл бұрын
This is not actually a problem. Stay out of large cities with significant gang activity, and your risk of being shot drops enormously. Within a large city, stay out of the dangerous areas (you know where they are), and your risk drops enormously. (Why would you want to be in these areas anyway?) Stay away from drunks and druggies, and from other men's women, and your risk of ANY violence drops enormously. Don't kill yourself. If you do, consider a more peaceful method. (Suicide is over half of all deaths by gunshot.) There -- you have just reduced your chance of violent death to roughly what it would be in Sweden. You're more likely to be killed by lightning than by an insane "mass shooter" (avoid Florida, we're the lightning-strike capital of North America). We do NOT have a violence problem -- we have a small (but loud) violent subculture that most of us can easily avoid with no real inconvenience. Why we tolerate them (in fact, we created them!) is a complex socio-political issue, which is basically code for "we did something stupid because of politics and greed". It's too late to fix that without picking a bloodthirsty dictator.. The people who are being killed are mostly not worth your concern or effort -- they are criminals and savages. Avoid them and get back to your own lives. If circumstance forces you to be among them, consider a proactive approach -- it's not just savages who can form gangs. The sooner we stop letting people with agendas trick us into pretending to care about the violent human waste among us, the sooner we will develop the political will to rout them out of our society and into the prisons and graveyards where they belong. Then no one will need guns, AND no one will need to ban them, and they can return to being sporting goods, much like bows and arrows (also once a major weapon of war, now played with by children).
@rachelkarengreen99
@rachelkarengreen99 3 жыл бұрын
Mental health is a scapegoat.
@TravisL.Desmadreson
@TravisL.Desmadreson 3 жыл бұрын
Sure is!! They use it to justify the junky homeless problem too! I hate all junkys!
@Rayzorbladez
@Rayzorbladez 3 жыл бұрын
Restore the nuclear family and put some of the military trillions toward mental health education and treatment.
@theobolt250
@theobolt250 3 жыл бұрын
What if gun violence is more akin to smoking instead of driving a car? I live in a country where guns are around but normally a citizen cannot owne one. And by and large that's what we prefer. Our feeling of safety is mostly very good. What is the problem with NOT owning a gun?
@gearsofwar2497
@gearsofwar2497 3 жыл бұрын
I would ask what is the problem WITH owning a gun? Don’t know where you live, but in america the reason the founding fathers included gun ownership being a right is because you can’t vote yourself out of a dictatorship. You can only fight your way out. For me, as a homeowner, it’s about protecting my family against any intruders. If a criminal comes into my house planning to rob me, they’re not gonna care about hurting me or my family
@linxdeal
@linxdeal 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with not owning a gun is when I walked out my door I was rightfully afraid of people. They would attack me for fun or money and there was no fear in them. Even when I fought back and won it was only a matter of time before there was another encounter. People lived in fear and you could see it in their eyes. The only way out was to get rich and live in a nice neighborhood. Now that I live in a place with gun rights I am less afraid and people respect seem to care for each other here. There’s a correlation between peace and gun ownership.
@HaloForgeUltra
@HaloForgeUltra 3 жыл бұрын
It's a horrible analogy. Guns are tools used for a myriad of purposes. Smoking is a drug that causes health issues. Smoking is arguably no worse than alcohol. Nobody bans alcohol.
@lumbratile4174
@lumbratile4174 3 жыл бұрын
@@gearsofwar2497 maybe the problem is a myriad of innocents are killed???
@edenassos
@edenassos 3 жыл бұрын
@@linxdeal Foolish take. Clearly you've never been outside of America.
@KyleJacksonSanFran
@KyleJacksonSanFran 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe people wouldn't be shooting each other if we reduced the stress and inequality of healthcare access. We need Medicare-for-All, much more than we need the CEO of Northwell Health to tell us what's what.
@turdferguson6978
@turdferguson6978 3 жыл бұрын
For a "Big Think" this is a little one-sided don't you think? I'm sure that there is at least one counter-proposal that warrants being discussed. Also, to treat gun violence as a "public health" issue, that's fine to do AFTER the 2nd Amendment is repealed, not before. Con rights require strict scrutiny and least restrictive means to accomplish the desired outcome. It's also worth noting that by his definition, hammer and blunt object violence is also a "public health crisis." Since Fauci has such an amazing track record with the coof, maybe he should be in charge of gun public health policy too.
@rawrmcsaurs6052
@rawrmcsaurs6052 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone has to wear bullet proof vests forever!
@juandeldiablo696
@juandeldiablo696 3 жыл бұрын
Comedian Chris Rock had a perfect solution 💡 make bullets extremely expensive, will make you think twice about using ur gun 😀
@pdc4930
@pdc4930 3 жыл бұрын
Pro-gun people would still fight that tooth and nail. They believe anything that limits guns is a slippery slope.
@collectionofatoms1876
@collectionofatoms1876 3 жыл бұрын
Also bullets are extremely cheap to manufacture at home.
@Certifiably_Unhinged
@Certifiably_Unhinged 3 жыл бұрын
@@pdc4930 well they're still trying to restrict them so yeah, it is a slippery slope. Now let's tackle the issue at its source mental health. Nah guns scare you though so they're the problem.
@lumbratile4174
@lumbratile4174 3 жыл бұрын
@@Certifiably_Unhinged how cometh that in other countries the mental health issues are the same but the gun deaths are not? Hmm sounds like the problem it's the guns after all...
@Certifiably_Unhinged
@Certifiably_Unhinged 3 жыл бұрын
@@lumbratile4174 cultural issue my friend. Go ahead and look at American culture overall and then you'll see.
@TheJerryakers
@TheJerryakers 3 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@TheJerryakers
@TheJerryakers 3 жыл бұрын
@UC0_y-1QAADi-Xly4jLV5RsA Yes, I like your idea. Why did I think it was worth my comment, Great video? Don, neither do I know how to curb gun violence. I like the idea that this man believes that "shootings" have become a national health issue and that it needs to be dealt with as such, even if only to give 6-yr-old kids the safe feeling that our society is safe, that it's OK to go outside, that they don't have to worry about a guy with a gun who might attack while they're at the playground doing their childhood things. I'm 75. Maybe I'm naive, probably am, somewhat of a Pollyanna. I also like the idea of "not taking guns away from the citizenry, just making guns safer". How to do that particular thing? I do not know, but yes, it sounds like a good idea to me. Plus, yes, I do remember way back when, when seat belts were REQUIRED for automobiles, all hell broke loose, infringement of our rights, govt restrictions, unnecessary money flowing out of our pockets, et cetera, and nobody ... nobody ... even debates that idea now ~50 yrs later. For the record, I did not like or want seat belts, I enjoyed the freedom of not being "tied and trapped" into my seat while I was driving. But who cares about what inconvenience that law may have caused me? I'm guessing, No one. The highway speed limit in those days was about 55-60 mph.
@7uplusprite
@7uplusprite Жыл бұрын
I have a solution! Every man procuring firearms must first register himself with the gun merchant and their local/state governments. Should he misuse his weapon; he will be registered as a 'registered firearms offender' as is the case with sex offenders.
@MrScissor90
@MrScissor90 Жыл бұрын
How about "shall not be infringed"?
@user-cv1jb9xv2p
@user-cv1jb9xv2p 3 жыл бұрын
Stoping gun violence, it's simple stop being dumb, don't be slave anger And Sir with all due respect the comparison was not right a car and a gun... A gun is made to kill, a car is made to travel. A car can be used to hit someone but that is not it's purpose and gun can be used to hit someone which is it's purpose. A gun doesn't know the person it is used to harm is good or bad. It is the human. Now one can say that a human can use anything to kill to that I say Do You Want to increase the number of things that can harm or decrease them? Learn from Australia, America; see how they improved.
@darkaxel1991
@darkaxel1991 3 жыл бұрын
Restricting people on the no-fly list from owning guns has a huge number of Constitutional problems, considering that gun ownership is a protected right. taking someone's 2nd amendment rights requires due process, and their is no due process involved with the no-fly list. The FBI decides who goes on that list. There's also due process issues with restricting the rights of the mentally ill.
@LuciTerra666
@LuciTerra666 3 жыл бұрын
How do we make a tool made for killing more safe for killing? Everyone wear protection from from guns everywhere forever....
@johnnyb8629
@johnnyb8629 2 жыл бұрын
This is considering just a small portion of the whole gun violence issue. You have accidental, you have suicidal, you have police shootings , armed robbers, gang, etc. What percentage is the most of what we see? What is the root cause of each, probably has nothing to do with the gun on many of these, the gun was incidental but not a necessary component like suicides. When it comes to gang and crime again the gun is incidental meaning is you take the gun away those crimes will just find another weapon. So you must talk about solving the cause of the issue first if you have any hope to solve the symptom. The laws that enable mentally ill people to get guns, sure, no brainer but the political environment has been tainted because the radical left's rhetoric makes them untrustworthy when putting forth any laws that seemingly makes sense.
@thegreatluxor8807
@thegreatluxor8807 3 жыл бұрын
If he really thinks that 80% want gun control, then he’d be a liar. Bs polls aside. Less government tyranny is something 80% agree on.
@KBosch-xp2ut
@KBosch-xp2ut 2 жыл бұрын
First step is to take it out of your Constitution. That puts up roadblocks to making guns safer.
@claytonrealist8868
@claytonrealist8868 2 жыл бұрын
No.
@AntonioSilva-ld4dq
@AntonioSilva-ld4dq 3 жыл бұрын
I found his approach to guns and their posesion real and easy to implement at the short term without creating conflict among different groups in society. Good job
@nanszoo3092
@nanszoo3092 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder about the mental health implications of all the people who are constantly worried about getting caught up in a random shooting whenever they go out to the store, movies, concerts, schools, etc. We are training every school child how to hide and stay quiet during an active shooting. As mothers, should we all be carrying guns when we are out running errands with our children (just in case)? I can see THAT ending badly in so many different ways ... School shootings happen and we talk about how many die, but not about how many are shot and survive with sometimes permanent injuries, and how many are traumatized even though they survive with no physical injury. I do not understand why we can not have similar laws for guns as we do for cars. After all - the second amendment provides for a Well-regulated Militia, not an unregulated free-for-all. and Yes it says "shall not be infringed, but what did that really mean at the time? Do any of us really live an "uninfringed" life? Should we also get rid of stop signs and traffic signals? What about jails, courts, police officers? What about schools? Don't those impinge on our liberty as well? Yet we decide that they are necessary for the general welfare. We need to read the Entire Constitution, especially the preamble which gives the Reason for its existence. Rights come with Responsibility. Common sense is needed here. Desperately.
@grayfiresoul
@grayfiresoul 3 жыл бұрын
A funny thing about the car safety anecdote... The sheer expense and bureaucratic tape hell created by congress as a result of mandating car 'safety' features is significantly more than the average person realizes. This fundamentally affected the way that the auto industry is regulated, how it is taxed and on what, how it is penalized for failing compliance, how they design present and future cars, and how much of that expense they've then pushed downstream to the buyer to compensate. The only positive to come out of this, relatively, is that you're not typically compelled to wear your seatbelt every time you step inside your car, although some states believe they can force you to. Because many Americans are ignorant on the subject, they won't protest, but that parallel only served to shoot him square in both feet.
@JemLeavitt
@JemLeavitt 2 жыл бұрын
Important.
@ziziroberts8041
@ziziroberts8041 3 жыл бұрын
Someone spoke from above. "Put the axe down!!!" ⚡🌩️⛈️ We still aren't listening.
@justusrocha856
@justusrocha856 Жыл бұрын
its ABOUT TIME, there is only 10 seconds that I "listen" to this wise gentleman's opionions,of his belief,and I can't help to give GOD ( JESUS CHRIST) the glory for this wise man's understandings.i can go on for years ,explaining my KNOWLEDGE of his outspoken ,and wise opionions of what can stop gun violence,sir ,I take my hat off to you ,for being honest ,intelligent,and wise with your you tube video,😋stay blessed!
@tashgodoffools
@tashgodoffools 3 жыл бұрын
Guns have safetys... Also Cars aren't safe... Remember the trucks of peace...
@sirmeowthelibrarycat
@sirmeowthelibrarycat 3 жыл бұрын
🤔 Let me see . . . a vehicle is a form of transport; a gun is not. A vehicle is intended for carrying passengers to and fro; a gun is not. A vehicle is safe in correct use; a gun has only one ‘correct’ use: to end a life. I know which I prefer to own . . . 🚘. The comparison in this video is baseless.
@loc4725
@loc4725 3 жыл бұрын
@@sirmeowthelibrarycat My target pistol was originally designed to kill. Obviously. 🙄 A gun is a tool, nothing more and like any tool it can be abused. A better approach would be to quantify the risks and set a threshold on what would be an acceptable maximum, but I know that won't float with the anti ideologues. (And yes I have tried but they always run away once my point becomes obvious).
@enieh112
@enieh112 3 жыл бұрын
What people SHOULD recognize is the mental state of all gun owners. My theory on this is it's a psychological need for extra protection and that they feel vulnerable (almost naked), without. If we can't understand THIS, gun owners can't let their guards down, resulting in increasing frustration and stubbornness.
@THATMOFODIRT
@THATMOFODIRT 3 жыл бұрын
Simple. Just declare a war against it and make it illegal to do the things they’re doing. More laws for them to ignore always works. 🤷‍♂️
@BossRedRanger
@BossRedRanger 3 жыл бұрын
It’s already illegal
@jameskulevich8907
@jameskulevich8907 3 жыл бұрын
Like the “War on drugs”.
@AndyKua
@AndyKua 3 жыл бұрын
Step #2. Enforce the law Step #3. Take preventative measures
@OperationGetReady
@OperationGetReady 2 жыл бұрын
oh hell no, is this channel antigun? i just subbed, and you just lost this sub. watched 3/4 of this vid and didnt like what i saw
@dinoyong9800
@dinoyong9800 3 жыл бұрын
Funnily I thought doctors gonna do a procedure for all gun owners…like removal of the trigger finger..maybe. Seems that would help solve some at least 🧐
@TravisL.Desmadreson
@TravisL.Desmadreson 3 жыл бұрын
lololol good one
@andyharris4273
@andyharris4273 3 жыл бұрын
But the crashes are still rising
@pacosilva2693
@pacosilva2693 3 жыл бұрын
Guns are just as safe as any other inanimate object , it will not do anything on its own . The problem are the people that own the gun . If they are predisposed to comit crimes with a weapon they will do it with a gun or any other object , be it a gun a glass bottle a piece of rope a baseball bat or just about anything else a criminal will turn it into a lethal weapon .
@aiartbx
@aiartbx 3 жыл бұрын
10/10 people with a machine gun have the ability to mass murder others quickly effectively and from a distance. What percentage of people do you think could do the same with any other inanimate object? There is simply no comparison there. Guns were invented to be an effective war machine.
@fkncompton7124
@fkncompton7124 3 жыл бұрын
Lol there is no solution there will always be bad people. As a good law abiding citizen, if you're so worried for your safety then the obvious thing is to carry a gun yourself and practice with it
@TravisL.Desmadreson
@TravisL.Desmadreson 3 жыл бұрын
NAILED IT! Funny how when you say it like that it becomes obvious that the agenda is not "gun" control but ppl control.
@nanszoo3092
@nanszoo3092 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I see a comment like this I think about all the frazzled moms running errands with their kids who leave their purse on the front seat and the toddler shoots the sibling while she's loading the car, or a crossfire in the Walmart because no one knows who the "bad" shooter is. The problem is that people need to be taught how to use and maintain a gun properly and how to respond to situations without emotion. Gun control means hitting your target, not someone else. I do not have enough faith in people to think that every one of us carrying a gun around is a good idea. There is a reason the Wild West was eventually "tamed"
@TravisL.Desmadreson
@TravisL.Desmadreson 3 жыл бұрын
@@nanszoo3092 You are insisting that guns are very complex and outside the realm of comprehension by the average joe. You are very wrong, it is a simple tool. Very simple, mindless thugs operate it. As far as the "wild west", do more research... there was nothing wild about it. By the way, the only thing tamed in the west was the heat.. with a/c.
@nanszoo3092
@nanszoo3092 3 жыл бұрын
@@TravisL.Desmadreson Not sure where you get the idea that I think they are complex when I said a toddler could use one. My point is that people can easily become careless, even with items that are too important to be careless with. This is why people lose their car keys. I don't do it often because they are too important to lose, but I do occasionally. Some people I know lose their keys all the time...
@TravisL.Desmadreson
@TravisL.Desmadreson 3 жыл бұрын
@@nanszoo3092 Keys this, keys that. Do you stand with the 2nd amendment? You should! Not because I wish you did but because it is the only correct stance. Cheers to you and your loved ones.
@djangokill65
@djangokill65 3 жыл бұрын
The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to... try to create a society where there are no bad guys.
@claytonrealist8868
@claytonrealist8868 2 жыл бұрын
We have plenty of gun laws already so If we would just prosecute these violent people that use guns to the fullest extent of the law instead of pleading down to some simple crime we would slow people shooting people. If we prosecute the gang bangers that use guns (which is by far the most use of guns for violence) in their crimes that would also help. Guns don't do anything, it takes people to make a gun operate so we need to work on people.
@jakel8627
@jakel8627 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is talking about what causes people to commit violence from a public health perspective, which is an important question, and people are just getting offended by his gun-car comparison. At least watch the whole video ffs
@Sam-cm5ww
@Sam-cm5ww 3 жыл бұрын
Take away the bullets
@VKSgtSLaughter
@VKSgtSLaughter 3 жыл бұрын
"And knowing is half the battle.... the other half is violence... extreme violence." 😉 YO JOE! 🇺🇲
@notbrad4873
@notbrad4873 3 жыл бұрын
Come back next week for "Psychologists against domestic abuse" and "Nutritionists against sugar"!
@sirmeowthelibrarycat
@sirmeowthelibrarycat 3 жыл бұрын
🤔 Reflect upon the murder of Cannon Hinnant, five years old, of Wilson NC. Shot in the head by a neighbour from across the street. But his death is less important than the possession of a gun . . . !
@timlubbers2884
@timlubbers2884 3 жыл бұрын
Reflect upon the murder of _________, whatever years old, of anytown USA. Ran over by a person with a car. But their death is less important than possession of a car ... !
@c0mpu73rguy
@c0mpu73rguy 3 жыл бұрын
Without taking people's guns? Taking people's ammunitions!
@loc4725
@loc4725 3 жыл бұрын
@Trayvon Sheniqua Martin Have you seen ammo prices recently? Looks like it's already happening. And actually that would be much easier to do than banning guns: privatise the 2(?) companies in the U.S. which produce smokeless powder and ban imports of the same. The rest will take care of itself.
@parslowpongbert1566
@parslowpongbert1566 3 жыл бұрын
. . . Ban bullets.
@Shandakai
@Shandakai 3 жыл бұрын
Big brain moves 😂
@enieh112
@enieh112 3 жыл бұрын
Tax them so high that every triggerpull becomes a cost-benefit problem 🤣
@CoolHandLuke87
@CoolHandLuke87 3 жыл бұрын
Oh hell no
@MaidenUtah1
@MaidenUtah1 3 жыл бұрын
“Bring back the death penalty”-Archie Bunker
@velcrochannel3430
@velcrochannel3430 3 жыл бұрын
Start at the source. Make the world better. Start with cheap energy use entropy as a power source. vaccum power baby. I know how do you? I'm sure it would change the world.
@hemanthsai4584
@hemanthsai4584 3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Guns are a fucking used to Kill.
@rawrmcsaurs6052
@rawrmcsaurs6052 3 жыл бұрын
Are is fucking used to kill, gun?
@hemanthsai4584
@hemanthsai4584 3 жыл бұрын
a **
@nimaxx
@nimaxx 3 жыл бұрын
this is how: leave US and those people behind who think that even today, with their cheap weapons, they would have any chance against the state, its high-end army and militarized police.
@rawrmcsaurs6052
@rawrmcsaurs6052 3 жыл бұрын
the high end American army then lost to ooga booga Vietnamese hit and run tactics
@nimaxx
@nimaxx 3 жыл бұрын
@@rawrmcsaurs6052 please inform yourself about the vietnam army before underestimating them; there is also a great documentary called "the vietnam war" by ken burnes that everyone should see to despise the war as a thought.
@rawrmcsaurs6052
@rawrmcsaurs6052 3 жыл бұрын
@@nimaxx im not underestimating them lol, they are able to hold off against the might of the American army at its peak. There is much to learn from their tactics
@AndyKua
@AndyKua 3 жыл бұрын
The comment section is not a learning collaborative. Don't be a whiner.
@enieh112
@enieh112 3 жыл бұрын
So you're only looking through for entertainment.. Twist your comment a bit, maybe you'll see why someone (me) would think that.
@AndyKua
@AndyKua 3 жыл бұрын
@@enieh112 I wanted to see if the comments were moving the discussion forward. Many of them result in the conversation breaking down.
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 3 жыл бұрын
From my cold dead hands!
@existentialcrisisactor
@existentialcrisisactor 3 жыл бұрын
Why not require insurance on guns, magazines and and/ or modifications? We do the same with our homes and cars without the government getting fully involved.
@existentialcrisisactor
@existentialcrisisactor 3 жыл бұрын
I own 2 shotguns and an ak47. I'm asking this from the perspective of a gun owner that sees a need for things to change but don't want to lose mine.
@existentialcrisisactor
@existentialcrisisactor 3 жыл бұрын
@Trayvon Sheniqua Martin... those are certainly words. Care to elaborate?
@existentialcrisisactor
@existentialcrisisactor 3 жыл бұрын
@Trayvon Sheniqua Martin uhhh.... yeah! That's correct. For instance, you have the right to travel. That doesn't mean you have a right to drive. You have to jump through a bunch of hoops and get not only yourself on a registry, but any vehicle you purchase. As well as insurance and whatever inspections the state mandates. What point are you trying to make?
@existentialcrisisactor
@existentialcrisisactor 3 жыл бұрын
You call me a dummy but don't understand there's limits to your first ammendment? Ever heard of libel laws or defamation? You have no idea about what you're talking about and it's very clear.
@existentialcrisisactor
@existentialcrisisactor 3 жыл бұрын
@Trayvon Sheniqua Martin you don't know how this works if you think any of your rights don't come with stipulations and regulations.
@hillbillyscholar8126
@hillbillyscholar8126 3 жыл бұрын
Unlisted. Do a Big Think feature on why one would unlist a video. Who is this talking head anyway?
@Infernoz04
@Infernoz04 3 жыл бұрын
How to use guns safely? I highly DOUT your a doctor
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