How To Remove Ethanol From E10 Unleaded Fuel To Use In Lawnmowers And Small Engines

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Micks Mowers The Mower Man

Micks Mowers The Mower Man

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@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
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@alan6832
@alan6832 3 жыл бұрын
Octane booster REDUCES the flammability of the fuel, not the other way. It's purpose is to keep the fuel from igniting too soon, before the spark. There are quick start additives that increase flammability. Also, if that fuel had 10% ethanol, it should have shrunk by half a liter, but it only shrunk by a quarter liter, so I don't think you got it all; either that or it didn't really have 10%.
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
@@alan6832 hi Alan.. ta for the comment.. E10 has up to 10% it could of been less..
@ladamyre1
@ladamyre1 3 жыл бұрын
I am an ASE Master Certified Automobile Technician and I have been trained on how to measure ethanol in fuel and what it does to the fuel. In testing we use coolant, but you can use alcohol (with food coloring) and you will have something that will burn after you siphon it off. Calculate what the 10% will be and use that much alcohol to remove the ethanol from the fuel. It makes it easier to see when the process is finished. You are correct to use an octane booster because ethanol is an octane booster and when you remove it the octane rating of the petrol will drop possibly causing detonation. However you have that "flammability" thing backwards. One more thing. I doubt that it is the ethanol itself that is destroying the rubber o-rings and gaskets. As far as rust goes, you're spot on when the equipment is used once a week and has time to absorb moisture out of the air, and I suspect it is that water that is degrading paper gaskets and rusting pinholes in floats on carburetors. On stuff that is used daily, as you noted, or on a car that has a tank that is moisture controlled, the ethanol does not cause a rusting problem. Cars also have fuel filters that won't pass water so their injectors don't rust up.
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
@@ladamyre1 yo yo.you know what... Best comment ever.. thanks
@mattyburrows9059
@mattyburrows9059 3 жыл бұрын
e10 has a sell by date because like you pointed out mick..it absorbs moisture from the air..i see everyone panic buying petrol thinking to myself..this looks like they have too much petrol and need to get shut of it..so people will have a tank full they wont be using..rusty engines by christmas
@L8nitedave
@L8nitedave 3 жыл бұрын
I have to say I wasn't really interested in this, but just seeing you and your boy having fun just sold me. Just wonderful. So I learned something and look forward to seeing you two again.
@mopricefam
@mopricefam 10 ай бұрын
Such a cute little guy! Always nice to see little guys learning with theirs dads!
@themowerman
@themowerman 10 ай бұрын
Yeah he is very special to us
@nunyabznz3029
@nunyabznz3029 2 жыл бұрын
After 4 mowers becoming so destroyed by the nasty ethanol, I am SO glad I found this video. Wish I could borrow Riley to assist me so I could have as much fun as you two do.
@themowerman
@themowerman 2 жыл бұрын
Lol hes available at £20 per second lol
@grahamherbert3612
@grahamherbert3612 3 жыл бұрын
I've been doing this for years, and as the ethanol sludge is allegedly so safe for the environment, I pour it straight down the drain hole outside my house :)
@ketankadam5669
@ketankadam5669 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@wesman7837
@wesman7837 3 жыл бұрын
I mean it's just corn oil right?
@kleetus92
@kleetus92 10 ай бұрын
could just burn it in a pan...
@josemariatrueba4568
@josemariatrueba4568 3 ай бұрын
Yoy better don't drink it even if any wine has about the same amount of ethanol. Gasoline comes with 5 to 10% of ethanol but also with up to 3% of methanol which is pure poison.
@cgbrewer12
@cgbrewer12 7 ай бұрын
Cute little kiddo. You can tell he is so proud of his dad. 😊
@themowerman
@themowerman 7 ай бұрын
Thanks
@TarylFixesAll
@TarylFixesAll 3 жыл бұрын
I like the food coloring. GENIUS MATE! Hi Riley Boy.
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks cupcake
@R.N.GPerformance
@R.N.GPerformance 3 жыл бұрын
my man taryl how are you doing buddy. cant wait for dinner on sunday.
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Love a Sunday dinner
@R.N.GPerformance
@R.N.GPerformance 3 жыл бұрын
@@themowerman absolutely
@njkip
@njkip 3 жыл бұрын
I had no end of trouble with my Honda gx engine on my jcb dumpster. I did this procedure and put it in the dumpster ( added a bit of octane booster) it runs great now! I'm using it in all my mowers and strimmers from now on!
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic news
@pennyan2057
@pennyan2057 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Mick , you can also use water from a de-humidifier, providing the catch tank is clean, I get 5 gallons a day in the summertime from the de-humidifier in my basement, it's free and I use it for my potted plants and veggie garden as well!
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I guess you can
@leathleyg5995
@leathleyg5995 Жыл бұрын
I once asked a specialist dehumidifier engineer if I could use the water for my fish tank. His reply - "OMG. No..! Its absolutely full of bacteria from the cooling pipes." So I don't know if the bacteria would affect the petrol? Probably the ethanol would kill it?
@lkeil84
@lkeil84 3 жыл бұрын
I have had fits every year that I pull out my tiller, my pressure washer and my lawn mower. I threw the weed whacker away it gave such fits and bought a battery EGO one that is brilliant. I bought new carbs for them one year, but still the next year, filled with gunk. At the beginning of covid, I did this removal process, drained all my tools and filled with this ethanol free fuel. This year I pulled everything out, and like magic, they all started right up and ran perfect. I personally just start with premium fuel, so after the ethanol removal, I have regular fuel. I then ad some Stabil and I think it will store for years. Now 1 1/2 years later, the fuel I still have left over looks and a eels just like new. And yes, you can just drain all your tools and then run them dry, but this is easier. I will never put ethanol fuel in a small engine ever again.
@billb7876
@billb7876 3 жыл бұрын
CONvid
@JB-ly3eo
@JB-ly3eo 3 жыл бұрын
just use aspen and there is no messing about
@SuperBuzzbomb
@SuperBuzzbomb 3 жыл бұрын
Just add Stabil to the fuel as soon as you get it. I have only ever had one fuel related problem and that was a generator that I decided to read the instructions on and drain the fuel after use. Next time I needed it I had to remove the carb and clean the varnish out for it to run . Ever since then I never shut the fuel off to the generator and it fires up on the second pull even after sitting for over 2 years. My riding mower is over 15 years old with no carburetor problems along with my push mower, weed eater and chainsaw.
@boilerhousegarage
@boilerhousegarage 3 жыл бұрын
@@billb7876 The CONvid SCAMdemic.
@billb7876
@billb7876 3 жыл бұрын
@@boilerhousegarage Yup, if folk don't wake up seen we are buggered
@77gmcnut
@77gmcnut 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see this process with the dye added to the water. Cheers to you and your son.
@themowerman
@themowerman 2 жыл бұрын
No worries mark.. hope you enjoyed it
@steveingram5245
@steveingram5245 2 жыл бұрын
Top Posts Mick... Not only the ethenol procedure, but my S/P drive shaft wasnt turning either, exactly the same fix as one of your other videos. Worked a dream. Mower was purring and the grass has been cut. keep up the good work. Big Thank You!
@themowerman
@themowerman 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help and you enjoy the videos mate
@155andRising
@155andRising 3 жыл бұрын
Little tip I learnt years ago . When pouring from a container like the de-ionised water . Pour from it side ways and then you don’t get the surging effect of the air trying to get back in the container. You then get a steady pour .
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@RiverMersey
@RiverMersey 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I imagine @micksmowersthemowerman is aware of this but for the purposes of this video poured the bottle in this way so the camera could notice the label on the container.
@petersaupe7455
@petersaupe7455 3 жыл бұрын
I make an tiny air hole in the handle of the pouring container. 1mm is about right.
@BigALstuffvids
@BigALstuffvids 3 жыл бұрын
The jug used for the deionized water and other containers like it were designed to be poured with the spout on top, not on the bottom.
@atlantajunglepythons1744
@atlantajunglepythons1744 2 жыл бұрын
Never drink from the opposite side of your mug.... The laying on its side trick was taught me to pour fluids into or near engines where you don't want to spill, like with coolant, oil or windscreen fluid.
@LincolnSP150
@LincolnSP150 3 жыл бұрын
Ethanol shouldn't be mixed in to begin with. Thank you for showing to remove it. Great Video .... Bravo !
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
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@alancook9586
@alancook9586 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful Mick. As another contributor says zero ethanol fuel is very expensive this looks like a good way to protect my strimmer and chain saw.
@waltermcphee3787
@waltermcphee3787 3 жыл бұрын
Over £20 for a 5 litre can, but it is also free of benzine which is a carcinogenic component of petrol.
@lukeweetman3858
@lukeweetman3858 3 жыл бұрын
I have always used standard unleaded for years with no issues, only thing I do do is when I finish using the machines is drain the tank and then run it till it runs out and never leave machines over winter with fuel in
@archieireland570
@archieireland570 3 жыл бұрын
I like that you are including your son in helping you. The reason your total was a little less is when combining alcohol and water the total will always be less than the sum of the two. Like your video.
@TIMMEH19991
@TIMMEH19991 3 жыл бұрын
For people living in the Midlands with a local Esso petrol station, their synergy fuel, although is marked E5 is actually ethanol free. Both the 97 and the 99 RON versions.
@patrickvennard838
@patrickvennard838 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I checked today and Esso super unleaded is ethanol free.
@alanreynolds2125
@alanreynolds2125 Жыл бұрын
28/11/23 sorry boys not anymore!!😡😡😡@@patrickvennard838
@kevinhall9198
@kevinhall9198 3 жыл бұрын
My car had a terrible miss in it- changed to ethanol free fuel- works a treat!
@7bookem
@7bookem 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! You have no idea just how useful this is
@awizardalso
@awizardalso 3 жыл бұрын
My real name is Michael McCluskey. I live in Canton, Ohio here in the United States. I did see another video on how to remove ethanol from petrol or what I call gasoline. I have three gas powered machines. A lawn mower, a weed eater and a leaf blower. Thank you for posting this video
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Your welcome
@martineleven8179
@martineleven8179 3 жыл бұрын
If you haven't got the time to do this just buy aspen 4 (alkalyte fuel), admittedly its about £20per gallon but it burns clean as a whistle and lasts for years if your storing something.
@juststeve5542
@juststeve5542 3 жыл бұрын
If you're In the UK, a lot of the "Super" brands are also Ethanol free. I use these in my motorcycle at the end of the riding season so I don't have ethanol fuels sitting in the carbs over winter.
@robthegardener9631
@robthegardener9631 3 жыл бұрын
At £20 for 5 litres I reckon using Aspen all the time is just as expensive as paying for a carburettor repair every couple of years. However, as compromise I'll do most of the job with ordinary petrol but then I empty the tank and finish it with about 100 ml of Aspen. That way the ethanol should be flushed out so it's not sitting in the carburettor causing damage between use.
@Pzun359
@Pzun359 2 жыл бұрын
B&Q is one of my favourite shops along with Halfords, Homebase, Wick's and Screwfix.
@therealchayd
@therealchayd 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one! I remember seeing another youtuber who used a water cooler bottle for this purpose, but he had fitted a tap to the bottom somehow. As it narrowed down to a neck at the bottom it was easier to see the division between the petrol and the water/ethanol.
@Jim_M_75
@Jim_M_75 3 жыл бұрын
Clicked on the suggested link for the science side, subbed and hanging around after seeing you with your lad. Top man.
@fighterpilot6461
@fighterpilot6461 3 жыл бұрын
Weee are fortunate to have a couple stations that still sell hytest ethanol-free fuel. Its cost is about 15% more. But you showed a very nice trick for those who don't have an option. The gunk is a problem. That's why you never store your vehicles over the winter with fuel in them. The other trouble is ethanol tends to dry out gaskets and diaphragms. A very small amount of two-stroke oil can go a long way in a 4-stroke engine to offset some of those effects.
@wesman7837
@wesman7837 3 жыл бұрын
@Jim McIntosh ethenol is basically just corn oil.
@ewokfromthewraiths9703
@ewokfromthewraiths9703 3 жыл бұрын
Just a tip for pouring the de-ionised water, it works the same for fuel and oil cans, is to pour the bottle on its side, the glugging comes from air getting trapped in the handle part, so ifyou get that level, you can stop the surging of the flow, and make it pour nice and smoothly. Good video by the way, really enjoyed it, learned something today Cheers, keep it up!
@AndrewN75
@AndrewN75 3 жыл бұрын
The glugging comes from having to let air in to replace the contents coming out. I completely invert the container so the outlet is at the top, but sideways works, too.
@Gleone58
@Gleone58 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas booster contains naptha (petroleum) 60-80% and MMT. Managanese derived chemical similar to Lead from back in the day. Just like Lead, MMT leaves residue on spark plugs and will eventually clog catalytic converters on vehicles. The residue will be reddish orange, lead was yellow. Easiest way to find out what octane booster brands contain is through a free SDS safety data sheet.
@johnbrizendine7716
@johnbrizendine7716 3 жыл бұрын
The CAS numbers will list everything in it, even if it lists them as "proprietary blends" or "hydrocarbon blends" or otherwise, the CAS number will say what the chemical is.
@josephfine3394
@josephfine3394 8 ай бұрын
Well done, Mick, thank you sir! All the best to you and Riley.
@themowerman
@themowerman 8 ай бұрын
Same to you!
@skytrainii8933
@skytrainii8933 3 жыл бұрын
Ethanol has a higher octane rating than gasoline and gives a net boost to the fuel's octane. Octane rating of fuel is not a measure of how flammable the fuel is though. In fact, it is more related to its ability to resist knock or detonation. The higher an octane rating, the more STABLE the fuel is and the better it avoids detonation. The octane index is a rating in which the fuel being measure is compared against pure octane. (Octane is no longer actually used as a fuel.) An average octane rating of 100 means the fuel being measured behaves exactly the same as Octane would in resisting detonation. Many Octane boosters could just be ethanol since ethanol does boost the octane of gasoline. I am not sure what Lucas uses in their fuel booster. But before I would add it to the gas you just "de-ehtanoled", I would make sure it does not have ethanol in it.
@jamesharrison6201
@jamesharrison6201 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the "Gas" we are able to buy here in the US has no gasoline at all. It's the petroleum equivalent of Frankenstein's monster. Majority of our real gasoline is exported
@johngardiner6800
@johngardiner6800 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesharrison6201 Hi, as you referred to 'gas' as petroleum, why don't you call it petrol as in the UK?
@TurboMountTV
@TurboMountTV 3 жыл бұрын
On a cross country trip I was surprised driving through Oklahoma that my car felt peppier, and I was getting 10% better gas mileage. Then realized it was real gas, not the 10%. They might as well put 10% water in, same result. 10% ethanol is one of the biggest modern scams. A political promise made to corn states that will be darn impossible to repeal.
@richard68380
@richard68380 3 жыл бұрын
Well said mate. I was looking to see if anyone would explain the octane rating. 👌
@Gleone58
@Gleone58 3 жыл бұрын
You can add an MMT additive which is in some boosters. It is derived from manganese metal and acts similar to how lead did back in the day, only downfall is manganese poisoning of the catalyst in cars and red deposit on spark plugs, similar to the yellow deposit from lead.
@dennisfox935
@dennisfox935 3 жыл бұрын
Very Informative video. Thanks for taking the time. Your boy is loving his dad as it should be.
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dennis
@grahambate3384
@grahambate3384 3 жыл бұрын
In Australia, we can get straight petrol as well as E 10 and E 85. I always use straight 98
@josemariatrueba4568
@josemariatrueba4568 3 ай бұрын
E85 has 85% of ethanol. E10 has up to 10%.
@josemariatrueba4568
@josemariatrueba4568 3 ай бұрын
Here in Europe ethanol free gasoline is only available for airplanes. Banned for poor people!
@offshoreman71
@offshoreman71 3 жыл бұрын
High octane gasoline actually burns slower than lower octane fuel. One thing that I add to my fuel to help clean up the engine internals is acetone. Adding acetone has kept me from having to tear down and clean up many carburetors.
@offshoreman71
@offshoreman71 3 жыл бұрын
@@thejupiter2 , Yes sir it does. That's proven science. Low octane fuel burns faster and causes octane ping in an engine. There's only 2 ways to solve it, 1st you can slow the burn rate by using higher octane fuel or 2nd you can adjust the timing and retard it to keep it from pinging The reason I add acetone to my fuel is to act as a solvent. It works well for that.
@offshoreman71
@offshoreman71 3 жыл бұрын
@@thejupiter2 , if you doubt what I have said, Google "does low octane fuel burn faster ". Let me know what you find.
@wesman7837
@wesman7837 3 жыл бұрын
@@thejupiter2 you only need higher octane fuel if high compression, and heat are causing predetonation (pinging)(knocking) as some call it. That's why some of the high compression engines run alcohol. Sam is right lower octane fuel detonates easier.
@MDMowers
@MDMowers 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder if pouring it through a Mr Funnel would remove all the water and ethanol gunk. Going to get one and try. Good vid 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@harleyboyd9998
@harleyboyd9998 3 жыл бұрын
Nice information & your a good father as you listen & answer your son's questions Showing him he's important as your helpful video. Thanks
@AmbachtAle
@AmbachtAle 3 жыл бұрын
You need a conical fermenter used by homebrewers, they hold about 20 liters and have a tap on the bottom. You will have to put a smaller exit line so you don't lose everything if you mess up. They are usually hdpe so it should stand up to gas. Downside is it isn't transparent.
@CailenCambeul
@CailenCambeul 3 жыл бұрын
Homebrewer here from Australia. The fermenters I've used come in black and also white. However, with the food colouring, that should be good enough to see through and use with the white fermenters. About 20 litres, yes. There's also larger ones at twice that and more. As for the tap being a bit large, use a gravity fed bottle filler (with a filter if you want) with a hand trigger or bottom of the bottle pin/valve. Add a length of clear hose and any reducers you think are needed, watch the colour change and shut off instantly. Or mix it with fuel spillage pump equipment for extra speed via the optimum mix of creativity.
@atlantajunglepythons1744
@atlantajunglepythons1744 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have to guess that fermenting equipment is not as cheap as, say, watercooler bottle with a cheap, plastic or better yet bronze|brass tap, at the bottom. Drink the watter AND then cheap source of bottles. Just don't store gasoline long term in them. Ok for a day or two tho, IME.
@jlucasound
@jlucasound 3 жыл бұрын
That electric pump is awesome! Thanks for this!
@jamesaucutt8284
@jamesaucutt8284 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video mate it’s great advice for us who work on small engines. I don’t use octane booster that often because of the yellow residue or orange ish color it leaves on the spark plug and Combustion chamber.
@bergeracvandamme
@bergeracvandamme 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm hoping this is the channel that will show me how to fix my poorly Ransomes Marquis 51...
@themowerman
@themowerman 2 жыл бұрын
I have about 6 videos on a full restore on a Ransomes marquis
@andrewwelford7697
@andrewwelford7697 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just been through all this with diesel in tractors and diggers when they increased bio oil. Filters all clogged up have had to put inline filters on everything to help and see when they need changing. new filters, time , going for new filters,have to put additive in tank the world has gone mad
@timwilliams9443
@timwilliams9443 3 жыл бұрын
Hey mick, Tim from America great idea And that little fella you got there he's amazing
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Yo yo my brother
@williamwarnold6737
@williamwarnold6737 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that explanation, I have an old engine, in the back van I use to generate PSI. For blowing up tyres . It’s been doing a great job for many years, and I would hate to have to retire it. 34 years to be precise.👍
@roberthuntley1090
@roberthuntley1090 3 жыл бұрын
I got my lawnmower's manufacturer (Challenge) to confirm that it will accept 10% ethanol. Beside that, what I usually do is put in just enough fuel to cut the grass and then leave the machine idling until the fuel runs out, so I never leave unused fuel sitting around in its tank/carburettor. The small amount left when the engine stops soon evaporates leaving a dry system. I started doing this year's ago to stop dried up fuel forming gum etc. to clog up the jets, but it should also mean that the plastic seals are only exposed to the ethanol for a few hours per year.
@robertmuncaster3510
@robertmuncaster3510 3 жыл бұрын
I started doing this and my machine stopped surging.
@nikduffield5457
@nikduffield5457 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah....Yamaha told me E5 fuel doesn't harm their motorcycles (bullshit). E5 made my tank porous until I had loads of tell-tale air bubbles in the paint finish all over the tank and the tank had slightly distorted too.....looked like someone with smallpox !!! So don't believe the manufacturers, they don't want any responsibility. Likewise the Government says Ethanol fuel is no problem too.....it's all a lie Ethanol is an extremely inefficient fuel you burn more of it to get power out, so your overall consumption increases and fuel economy drops....not very eco friendly then !! Just means you get sold a dodgy watered down fuel more expensively with extra servicing costs. We are being taken for a ride.....literally. Simply more profit for every one involved other than the end user.
@jamesdobbins3155
@jamesdobbins3155 3 жыл бұрын
Can you separate the ethanol for use in a camp heater that uses alcohol separating water from ethanol
@STTC
@STTC 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating Mick, it was like watching a crazy man in a laboratory,,, Really interesting video, I bet this one goes really big with this great demonstration,,, well done
@Carpfisher992
@Carpfisher992 3 жыл бұрын
Great tip Mick. Glad to see Riley boy helping.
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Oh he loves to help
@georgezuss2925
@georgezuss2925 3 жыл бұрын
Great vlog, mate, thank you kindly for sharing. Two points, friend: Please don't underestimate how useful this is to blokes li,e me with older carb-equipped motorbikes. This is a good amount to go in most recreational bikes and it can't do any harm( I imagine, in my untrained opinion ) to be keeping that water & gunk out of my bikes' running gear. Also, I had to source containers to drain off all the diesel out of my 4x4 recently. By far the best and cheapest option I found was used big containers sold off very cheaply by a local brewery. They make craft type ales and apparently struggle to get rid of the large containers. I just cleaned them out thoroughly, bought a tap from a camping supplier, installed at the bottom exactly as per your clear container. The cost was pennies compared to buying tapped purpose-made containers. Thanks again, friend..........keep smilin', bloke.....
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment.. I appreciate it
@billb7876
@billb7876 3 жыл бұрын
My barrel only cost £8 off the dreaded amazon and its clear. We needed it for our old Francis Barnetts
@davidcurnutt9584
@davidcurnutt9584 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid on a government produced problem that the average consumer has had forced upon them. Simple solution too. I think I am ready to buy one of your shirts though and have it shipped from the UK.
@Rusty1220
@Rusty1220 3 жыл бұрын
I run nothing but E85 for 15 years in my fuel injected truck, never had any problems. Then after 200;000 miles my fuel pump wore out. When I took fuel pump out it still looked new. All the rubber and plastic parts looked great.
@Rusty1220
@Rusty1220 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the engine was still running fine but I sold the truck just because I wanted a newer model.
@jamesharrison6201
@jamesharrison6201 3 жыл бұрын
That's the difference between an engine in daily use as opposed to weekly or biweekly.
@johngardiner6800
@johngardiner6800 3 жыл бұрын
Very useful thanks. By the way when pouring liquid from a container like the one in the vid. Have the spout at the top so that air can enter to prevent spurting as you experienced.
@chrisbarnes2823
@chrisbarnes2823 3 жыл бұрын
A very interesting video, thank you. Here in Canada I use Premium Gas which does not contain Ethanol in my lawnmower, snowthrower and generators. My two stroke weed wacker uses synthetic fuel. I know that most new gas power equipment is now hardened for Ethanol, I buy premium gas on a regular basis as we use it in my wife’s 33 year old sports car. My truck is a diesel so that is a non issue. I usually keep 100 litres of gas on hand in case we have a power outage and then rotate through it, I paid $ 1.56 a litre this morning for premium gas, which is about £0.91.
@WhosPhotoTube
@WhosPhotoTube 3 жыл бұрын
Esso Synergy Supreme+ 99 is actually ethanol free (except, due to technical supply reasons, in Devon, Cornwall, North Wales, North England and Scotland)
@sixtysecondsofstephens2386
@sixtysecondsofstephens2386 3 жыл бұрын
Just popped on KZbin, very informative. Great seeing you and your boy enjoying the shed.
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@petercross8871
@petercross8871 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mick, watching your video on recommendation, can I suggest that you turn your primary tank on end . Place two lengths of wood on your bench, deep enough so as to allow the container to sit up right with the blue cap facing you and overhanging your bench so you can turn your tap on. You will need to screw the wood to the bench. attach a small length of hose to the tap, about 450mm. This tube goes into your petrol can after the process, so you don't have to move your main container. Pour your fuel into your container, add your water. Shake, leave, I think if we both have the same container, the bit of tube that sit's inside your container will when things have settled sit just above the ethanol gunk. So allowing you to recover all your ethanol free fuel but only using one container. I achieved this through trial and error. Great video. I have signed up. Best wishes
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Ok mate thanks for the info.. great to have you aboard
@kjfishman547
@kjfishman547 6 ай бұрын
Great information for those that can't find ethanol free gas at the pump. I am fortune enough to get "real gas" no ethanol in my area. Cost a little more but worth it especially for my outboard.
@onefixitman
@onefixitman 3 жыл бұрын
In the USA I live in Palatka, FL and about 5 miles from my house there is a petrol station that sells Ethanol free fuel. I use ethanol free in all small engines that I use. Good video. I purchased a small battery operated fuel pump like you have from Harbor Freight for about 8.5$ USD and it works great.
@xzqzq
@xzqzq 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever I see ' ethanol free ' for sale, I am always curious about what was in the tank prior....
@pl7868
@pl7868 10 ай бұрын
Was going to throw the weed whacker away was so sick of changing the lines in the tank an cleaning the carb every spring but will try this , Thx for the video
@themowerman
@themowerman 10 ай бұрын
No worries
@markkeyser
@markkeyser 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! Thanks. We can still buy ethanol-free gasoline here in the States but it's quite expensive. I use it in my small motors. Another thing that appears to work regarding the degradation of fuel in carburetors (but I can't explain why) is the addition of 2-stroke oil. I've got a McCulloch ProMac 10-10 chain saw that I've always burned regular 'pump' fueI in (purchased new in 1973) that, even after the inclusion of E10 -15 fuel, has always started and run well after long periods of inactivity. I use a 40/1 or 50/1 gas/oil mix. I'm tempted to try adding a bit of 2-stroke oil to the tank of my Kawasaki KLR 650 before I 'put it to bed' for the winter and see if it works on the bike as well.
@joee8417
@joee8417 3 жыл бұрын
drain the tank. put a pint of chainsaw (gas/oil mix. I use regular 2 stroke oil at 16/1. ) fuel in it run it until it smokes. drain tank. start and run out of fuel. now all the carb, engine and exhaust parts have a protective film of oil on them. In spring put batt. back in, was on a trickle wasn,t it? add gas, ride the hell out of it!
@ArnCital
@ArnCital 3 жыл бұрын
here in northern Nevada the Maverik gas stations often have no-ethanol gasoline at a price just slightly more that that of premium gasoline. I have asked the managers of 2 stations about their sales and they said that they sell a lot of it.
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks for the information
@byteme2102
@byteme2102 3 жыл бұрын
I use regular gas in all my small motored equipment. At the end of each season, I add a small amount of Sea Foam to the gas tanks of my mowers, weed trimmer, and snow blower. Then I run them for a minute or two to circulate the mixture thru the carbs. Then I drain the gas tanks, put a bit of oil in the cylinders, and store them all for the winter. In the spring they start 1st pull every time. They are all at least 10 years old (the snow blower is 15) and they all still run like new.
@roberts5118
@roberts5118 3 жыл бұрын
After you drain the gas tanks then you should start and run the engine until it burns up all of the remaining fuel in the carburetor. Then put the oil in your cylinders and store them for the winter.
@byteme2102
@byteme2102 3 жыл бұрын
@@roberts5118 Yes, I neglected to mention that. I run them until they stall out.
@anthonybancroft5350
@anthonybancroft5350 3 жыл бұрын
Great Instructual video, fully explained, Just shows what crap we are now putting in our cars etc, thank you 😀👍🏻
@amysmith-nk2wf
@amysmith-nk2wf 3 жыл бұрын
there trying to destroy the older car with this shite and more petrol vehicles so we.go electric in the end
@jeffkiehne2545
@jeffkiehne2545 3 жыл бұрын
The alcohol water mixture could possibly be converted to vinegar or re distil to use in alcohol heater or fireplace.
@derrenlambert2279
@derrenlambert2279 3 жыл бұрын
I do this for my 40 year old lambretta, also got E10 viton seals.. save your engines and do this for small engines.
@stephenwilliamson6118
@stephenwilliamson6118 3 жыл бұрын
A great video Mick. Mick the petro chemist, your skill has no limits 👍🏻
@kennethperian4370
@kennethperian4370 2 жыл бұрын
Great job showing and telling, learning I am from you thanks have a good one see ya next time see ya bye.
@themowerman
@themowerman 2 жыл бұрын
Ta for watching mate
@CChallinor
@CChallinor 3 жыл бұрын
Is this cost effective? Wouldn't switching to a premium petrol (97 octane) work out cheaper ?
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
I would but what if you can't get it.. it's just an option to have. Ta for the comment
@slip0n0fall
@slip0n0fall 3 жыл бұрын
Here in the states at least, the higher octane fuels still contain ethanol - the point is to remove the ethanol.
@Umski
@Umski 3 жыл бұрын
@@slip0n0fall I think the point C Challinor was making was that the higher octane 97+ in the UK is still E5 which is what the standard (95) used to be until 1st when it changed to E10 so if there were no issues with using E5 then it would probably be more cost effective to just use the premium - deionised water varies in price in the UK plus the octane booster so losing 10% ethanol versus paying a few pennies more per litre for premium is probably marginal versus the effort in losing all the ethanol and then adding an expensive octane booster - it was the same hoo-haa when leaded was removed and those with classic cars were panicking about valve seat recession and the like - I ran a 1972 Triumph Spitfire on standard unleaded for a number of years without a problem! Whilst there are pros and cons to adding ethanol to fuel from a so-called environmental perspective (i.e. the fact that it probably uses more energy to make the ethanol than it generates or the fact that crops are being used instead of for food) this move to E10 just seems to be an excuse to get excited about change for no real reason - I will use E10 in my mower and see how it gets on, if it needs a fuel pipe and carb clean once in a while then so be it!
@garryclelland4481
@garryclelland4481 3 жыл бұрын
good video Mick , good on you for including the weeman
@knighthawk86855
@knighthawk86855 3 жыл бұрын
Also was thinking of using glass containers but be careful, gas likes to build pressure and once shaken and seals the plastic will expand but glass won't, and it could explode, not a firey explosion but a pressure explosion, which can hurt you, and make a huge mess.
@cphank3722
@cphank3722 Жыл бұрын
Great video Mick. If you don't want to waste anything, I've seen on Steve's Small Engine Saloon in which Steve used the ethanol/water mix in his ultrasonic cleaner. It seems to improve the cleaner's performance.
@themowerman
@themowerman Жыл бұрын
Yeah I have seen that.. it's not something I would use.. but thanks for the comment mate
@Ubereme
@Ubereme 3 жыл бұрын
You could do this or you could just by the premium unleaded (super unleaded). Although super unleaded petrol can contain up to 5% ethanol, there is no government requirement for it to contain any. And some providers do not contain any ethanol :) Maybe you could do a test to see if they have any ethanol in premium petrol? :)
@Fix_It_Again_Tony
@Fix_It_Again_Tony 3 жыл бұрын
The ethanol gauge in my car says the 93 octane I buy has 10% ethanol in it.
@farmerjohn6192
@farmerjohn6192 3 жыл бұрын
That’s fine for most classic cars but I don’t think high octane premium fuel is good for 2-stroke engines like your lawnmowers and strimmers.
@billb7876
@billb7876 3 жыл бұрын
Give it a go yourself with a gallon, and you will see the white sludge at the bottom. Even the 5% is shit for classic vehicles and totally pointless to have
@GKMusik1
@GKMusik1 3 жыл бұрын
@@farmerjohn6192 not really seeing as how ethanol can ruin gaskets and rubber parts in the fuel line of older cars, this is probably why the govt. has introduced it, they want to get old cars off the road
@mrdanger4851
@mrdanger4851 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video and simple explanation of what is actually happening.
@alansaville2211
@alansaville2211 3 жыл бұрын
A very informative chemistry lesson there Mick i shall definitely give that a go. Especially now that i have my workshop finally up and getting ready to get down and dirty.
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Good lad
@AdrianNelson1507
@AdrianNelson1507 3 жыл бұрын
🤭 see you next spring, I love it! Great video
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@SnowingNapalm
@SnowingNapalm 3 жыл бұрын
seems like rather than taking the water ethonol blend off to the tip you could recycle it to filter the next batch through and then have this done through a 55gal drum or 200Litres the shaking could be done with a paint mixer prop just weld on an extra length so rather than it being 1ft long it'd be 4 ft long shaft could set the barrel on a stand and simply tap the container yourself make sure the stand has a slight lean from level to concentrate the water at an angle towards spout have another container say a 5 gallon bucket 🪣22.7304Liter to store your filtering water/ethonol , possibly saving off the ethonol for other purposes
@invisiblemushroom1445
@invisiblemushroom1445 3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna ask the question as to why you should throw the coloured H2O away and could you not just re-use it to process another 5 litres of fuel, after all its purpose is merely to attract & separate the moisture from the fuel/ethanol mix and doesn't change its chemical elements? 🤷🏻‍♂️
@michaelregan4332
@michaelregan4332 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mick from Louisiana, USA.
@Herbybandit
@Herbybandit 3 жыл бұрын
You need a Mr Funnel fuel filter, it filters the bits out but more importantly it separates water out of petrol.
@hikaru9624
@hikaru9624 3 жыл бұрын
Sir or Madame I want to thank you for this! I don’t know if it will help my car but it will definitely save my mower.
@wilson42cc
@wilson42cc 3 жыл бұрын
I use a fuel stablizer here in Australia, you get it from Bunnings mower department, put about 10 mills in my tank every time I fill up , because the petroleum products are crap now , car runs good on it ,,
@ramiretz
@ramiretz 3 жыл бұрын
that reminds me on how i check the Ethanol content on our fuels here regulary....... very nice vid mate !
@demps6919
@demps6919 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and great to see your son helping. Thumbs up from me m8.... Ive subscribed.
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@iantheinventor8151
@iantheinventor8151 3 жыл бұрын
As the freezing point of petrol is -60 degrees could you put in freezer so water freezes & allows you to pour off the de-ethenalised petrol? Might be worth a try 🤔
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm could be worth a go
@Thematt11
@Thematt11 3 жыл бұрын
@@themowerman Except ethanol freezes at -114 and even diluted will drive the freezing point of the water down below the ability of a domestic freezer. You'd probably end up with slush at best.
@oldplucker1
@oldplucker1 3 жыл бұрын
If you have a freezer capable, freeze the petrol and pour off the liquid ethanol
@MrLangDog
@MrLangDog 3 жыл бұрын
In the southern U.S., Wawa and many Gate stations sell 89 octane non-ethanol fuel so it's easy to get. I fill up 2-3 2.5 gallon cans every few months for my small engines and for when I'm too lazy to stop for gas on the way home from work.
@dawgdawg3075
@dawgdawg3075 3 жыл бұрын
We can find non-ethanol fuel in my state, but the nearest station that carries it is now 15 miles away, I need to pencil out whether your solution (which I like) is more cost effective. Thanks for the demonstration!
@brittweir8844
@brittweir8844 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, Super Dad 🙂
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Ta mate
@rogerbinny1996
@rogerbinny1996 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video lots of information too .. Would pouring the liquid produced through lint gauze work to separate fuel from water mix ..
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Hmm I have no idea worth a go
@minot.8931
@minot.8931 3 жыл бұрын
No, it wouldn’t. Ethanol does not stick to lint gauze. It would just all run through and then separate out again.
@jonallen6349
@jonallen6349 3 жыл бұрын
nice to see riley boy helping out thumbs up mick
@alansmall9071
@alansmall9071 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great tip great to have a way of getting around the governments way of taking petrol engines out of commission Riley boy’s a good lad keeping check on things 😉👍🏻👍🏻
@g0fvt
@g0fvt 3 жыл бұрын
A fascinating video, I am sure a bit of creativity and you could safely dispose of the water ethanol mix. Might be good for water injection on a diesel....
@simonharper4199
@simonharper4199 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mick. I emailed esso a month ago and this is the response i got: 'The majority of our Synergy Supreme+ 99 is ethanol free (except, due to technical supply reasons, in Devon, Cornwall, North Wales, North England and Scotland). Legislation requires us to place these E5 labels on pumps that dispense unleaded petrol with ‘up to 5% ethanol’, including those that contain no ethanol, which is why we display them on our Synergy Supreme+ 99 pumps' They are the only company to still sell ethanol free fuel -the premium unleaded. I mailed all the other big companies and they are putting 5% in their premium As a side issue you could avoid the octane booster by starting off with a high octane E5 97ron premium unleaded and by the time you take the ethanol out the octane drops to 95ron. The premium you pay for the 97ron fuel is more than covered by the extra 5% petrol you are left with Great clear vid
@andymorrow1597
@andymorrow1597 3 жыл бұрын
Most small engines are designed and safe with upto 5% ethonal. Which means super unleaded is safe to use same as e5 95 Ron.
@tonyquinn3941
@tonyquinn3941 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mick, I have tried a conical shaped container with bottom tap and tap located 1/4 way up to draw off water / mix . Ding ❤️!
@sstorholm
@sstorholm 3 жыл бұрын
I've been running E5 and E10 in small engines for years, and haven't seen any problems so far. It's a lot down to humidity, a dryer climate equals less humidity for the ethanol to absorb. Winterisation is also key, I've found that I have a lot less issues with carbs gumming up if I store all small engines in a moderately heated space. Best trick so far however is to run the last few tanks on acrylate petrol before storing the device, that stuff never goes off and doesn't go stale either, and it won't break the bank if you just use it for a couple of tanks at the end of the season.
@lkeil84
@lkeil84 3 жыл бұрын
I have many small engines, and every year I would have to take all the carburetors apart and clean them. What a pain in the rear. When I did this method 2 years ago, I pulled all my machines out and they all started right up and ran great. I also put fuel stabilizer in the mix.
@mrkoolio4475
@mrkoolio4475 3 жыл бұрын
What is acylate petrol
@lkeil84
@lkeil84 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrkoolio4475 I have no idea.
@mrkoolio4475
@mrkoolio4475 3 жыл бұрын
Bryan Keil well you said it in your original comment?
@lkeil84
@lkeil84 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, if you say so... I don't see it though.
@Bugsworth
@Bugsworth 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mick and Riley for the clear and handy information: Big wave and Best regards g from Nottingham :-)
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much
@hawkercnc8261
@hawkercnc8261 3 жыл бұрын
As far as know you can get static build up in fluids, particularly mixes such as water and fuel. Shaking it violently in plastic might be seriously pushing one’s luck. It is a cause of fires at refineries when crude oil is pumped ashore with some sea water which has leaked into the tanks. It ignites whilst passing down the tubes. Perhaps no shaking or use a metal can.
@theknowledgewithin6514
@theknowledgewithin6514 3 жыл бұрын
Sea water is full of minerals that's why, ionised isnt
@stansbruv3169
@stansbruv3169 3 жыл бұрын
All right! You guys make quite a team! Nice work. Thanks for the information.
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Your very welcome
@andybtec
@andybtec 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I've just got some aspen two stroke mix to try in my chainsaw etc
@benpeirce2531
@benpeirce2531 8 ай бұрын
I liked your video. I'ld save the E-10 and rejet my 2-stroke dirt bike, add some good 2-stroke. It should some power. But at the end of the day. "Drain the fuel out of tank and run carb" dry. Then put a Pint fuel Gas/Petrol in the tank mix little heavy on Oil run it for afew minutes. "Alcohol hates Aluminum"! It eats into the aluminum. Get it out of your fuel system after riding or racing.
@danmacdonald5166
@danmacdonald5166 3 жыл бұрын
I heard that the water method does work but lowers the octane. Start with a mid grade Petrol instead.
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Or just add a booster..
@chatrkat
@chatrkat 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!! Here in Chicago and surrounding areas, E-10 is all we can get, or we must buy engineered fuel @ over $20. US per gallon at Home Depot. This is amazing.Mick, thank you.
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Your very welcome
@chatrkat
@chatrkat 3 жыл бұрын
@@themowerman I’ve been a subscriber for a while too. I enjoy your channel a lot. Best wishes to you and Riley. ~Keith~
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
@@chatrkat thanks mate I appreciate your support
@areviewer5661
@areviewer5661 3 жыл бұрын
Or just buy ethanol free petrol form Esso - their Supreme+ Super Unleaded ' is ethanol free in most of the UK (except, due to technical supply reasons, in Devon, Cornwall, North Wales, North England and Scotland)
@flappingarms9335
@flappingarms9335 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertferguson5518 Tesco momentum 99 is less than 5% as is V-Power. After watching this I’ll stick to buying 99 or V-power, less faff and far less dangerous!
@lawrencehenson8494
@lawrencehenson8494 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertferguson5518 BP is the worst.
@bombasticbuster9340
@bombasticbuster9340 3 жыл бұрын
We have ethanol free 91 octane in Arkansas USA. Its usually in the premium pump and costs more. Right now its costs around 3.65 per gallon.
@lawrencehenson8494
@lawrencehenson8494 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertferguson5518 warning, if not CA CARB Certified, you WILL have a fire! BS alcohol destroys fuel lines and float valves!! Teflon needle valves, and US Coast Guard approved fuel hoses, a must! FACT
@lawrencehenson8494
@lawrencehenson8494 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertferguson5518 was $ 1.79 when TRUMP was in office.
@dannymullen2978
@dannymullen2978 3 жыл бұрын
Quite interesting, I learned so.ething new today. Thank you.
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Your welcome
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