I made the mistake of disassembling my wheel before removing the freewheeel, luckily I was able to re-lace half the wheel, but I don’t have a vice to hold the tool… So we used a pair of C-clamps to brace a breaker bar on the bench, did the trick! Thanks for getting us over the hump!! 🗿👍🏻
@keithschrack5 жыл бұрын
For all those asking, that is a flip-flop hub that can accommodate a freewheel or fixed gear on either side. If it came from a tandem, chances are it was intended for a spin-on drum brake. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip-flop_hub
@ministryoftruth85884 жыл бұрын
RJ, I've never tried this but here's another idea that MAYBE MIGHT work for removing the freewheel in case you don't have any old spokes and a rim lying around. Cut a LONG piece of metal bar that's at least 1/16" - 1/8" thick and at least as wide as the Hub Flange. Cut a 'U' in the middle of the width portion of the bar so the middle of the hub slides into the 'U' of the bar and the bar seats flat against the hub. Cut this 'U' at one end portion of the long bar. Using the bar as a template, with a sharpie mark #8 spoke holes (half of the 16 spokes holes on a 32 spoke wheel) through the hub onto the bar. Drill the #8 holes (with a 2mm drill bit) through the bar so the holes line up exactly meshing up to the spoke holes of the hub. Bolt it together using #8 very thin nuts, bolts and washers, the strongest you can find. The nuts will have to be placed next to the freewheel. Using small washers might help for a stronger bond and prevent cracking or maring of the alloy hub. IF it fits, place the bar/hub combo in a Vice, clamping onto the bar only. IF it wont fit, clamp the freewheel tool (tool held in place by axle nut of QR skewer) and use the 'bar' as the wrench. Maybe worth a Video RJ?
@RJTheBikeGuy4 жыл бұрын
I have seen similar suggestions often using wood and nails. It would require a different custom tool for different hubs. That is a lot of work. The spokes can be reused.
@john-di1bn Жыл бұрын
If you happen to have a disc brake hub with a threaded freewheel on it you can use two long M5 bolts bolted into the rotor mounts and have the bolts clamped on the vise and now you can remove the freewheel no problem (or do it the opposite where the freewheel tool is clamped on the vise and using a wrench to hold the bolts bolted into the rotor mounts of the hub as you rotate it counterclockwise.)
@JoeyMesa5 жыл бұрын
I've had good success clamping the 2 flanges between 2 chunks of wood (2x4's) in a large vise, then use a 1" or whatever socket fits the freewheel tool, and break it loose with an impact gun. Works about 90% of the time and much faster.
@trekkie99425 жыл бұрын
A great usage for old spokes and rims which makes a great solution to an otherwise impossible task. 👍
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
A recurring question is why is this hub threaded on both sides. This hub is made for a tandem bike. It is threaded on both sides, one side for a freewheel, and the other side for a thread on drum or disc brake.
@herosstratos5 жыл бұрын
Arai drumbrake: www.precisiontandems.com/arai.htm
@rudyramos59115 жыл бұрын
Great video RJ. I've always learned useful things here Thank you for sharing... ...all the best.
@ckrachmer4 жыл бұрын
RJ...I can't figure out whether you're a god, or just the mfkin man. Thanks for presenting a practicable solution for literally every imaginable problem!
@sperrtechnik5 жыл бұрын
i am now 29 years into bike repair and never had a solution for this problem, thanks man this is a great idea
@teamoldguy31385 жыл бұрын
Always surprises me people break down wheel sets with drivers still on the hub. Happens way to often!
@kymmurray90985 жыл бұрын
People seeing different opportunities for spare parts versus scrap metal is my take.
@johnpossum5565 жыл бұрын
Excellent video for the parts scrounger type of DIYer.
@juanpablolara38935 жыл бұрын
Damm what a great idea thanks for the info man
@crimsondova10965 жыл бұрын
I actually use those spoke's for a emergency when im on the road its very helpful but i didnt know this yet so thank you very much RJ
@PrabuddhaDasGupta19665 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great video! Now to dig out that hub from my parts bin. 😀
@e.stgo.79985 жыл бұрын
Because of this I like to see your tutorials. 👍👍👍👍👍 GOD BLESS YOU 😇🙏🙏🙏😇THANKS
@Bikeops20215 жыл бұрын
Nice work RJ, not come across that problem before but as they say, one never stops learning, thanks for your time!
@neilbain87364 жыл бұрын
Very informative! I like the way these are formed. But surely it must matter if only to a ball park what length you should aim for when cutting them. The extra lever against the hub centre as a pivot is really crafty and ought to help support it too.That bit of angled channel is good for a production line. I've been there before. Here are my own observations. Firstly try the obvious and use the tool to see if the freewheel is only finger tight. It happens. Cranked spokes. They used to be a bona fide thing, form a supplier so you could replace them on the go without removing the free wheel. But if you only needed one or two you just measured from the threaded end back to the bend from any spoke that was too long and chopped it to size. 48 holers are tandem stuff and they can take a lot of force. If the block has an unusual remover and is to be scrapped, there is an easy way out. Remove the lockring- the ring with the writing and two diametrically opposite pin holes on it. It's the screwed bearing and it's a left hand thread too. It will separate and all the bearings will fall out. The pawls need removing too if they haven't fallen out because where they were leaves two diametrically opposite gaps that are idea for grabbing in a vice and removing the freewheel.
@redalert28344 жыл бұрын
These videos are great, so helpful! I'm hoping there will be another in the future explaining how to remove a freewheel from a hub with no spokes whilst riding a unicycle, juggling five balls and learning Swahili.
@RJTheBikeGuy4 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!
@john-di1bn Жыл бұрын
The Z-bend or S-bend spokes also works as a replacement spokes when you happen to snap one and you have no spare spokes available especially on smaller wheels, although it's not recommended to tighten it too much as it would just simply slip off the flange hole, potentially damaging it.
@DM-bw3rd5 жыл бұрын
Hi rj could u do more bike restoring/projects and finds on mountain bikes because I love watching them thanks.
@jjo37503 жыл бұрын
Great solution, great video… all yours are ! Helps a lot, thank you !
@WARDANT15 жыл бұрын
Watch your back. Good leverage is essential. I had a two prong freewheel remover break. So I took the freewheel apart (RJ will probably cover this some day). Inside I found some nice flats that clamped in a vice. The freewheel could not be saved, but a nice reversible hub (fixed & freewheel) was. Remember, "Watch your back".
That took some meticulous preparation fabricating the Z spokes...nice demonstration
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
With the jig, it didn't take too long. And I will save them for next time.
@ssgameking34155 жыл бұрын
Wow veary helpful thanks
@berntfritiofulveborn31635 жыл бұрын
Nice, never thought of lacing it up like that, good!
@breedx25 жыл бұрын
How to remove freewheel from hub with no spokes/rim? Easy! Add spokes and rim! :) All joking aside, thanks for the ingenuity and sharing this with the world!
@chaotic_goodness5 жыл бұрын
I've used a rubber strap wrench to good effect.
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
Then yours was not tight. I have tried a strap wrench and it just slips.
@chaotic_goodness5 жыл бұрын
Sooner or later I'll find one that's really jammed on there. Now I'll know what to do, in that case. Thanks, keep the vids coming!
@mohamedboukrim5 жыл бұрын
شكرا لك 👏👍
@ericpatterson85965 жыл бұрын
Great job on freewheel !! Great Video too !!
@hmartinspliff5 жыл бұрын
RJ The Bike -Guy- Genius
@alanprice75845 жыл бұрын
Hi, when I used to ride regularly with a touring club here in the UK we regularly carried spokes with an "S" bend, invaluable when you're miles from the nearest bike shop and a spoke breaks on the sprocket side. Not such a problem with a cassette hub I suppose but a real boon otherwise.
@user-cd6ey7ku7n5 жыл бұрын
Another great video.. can you make a video about different carbon forks and bikes?
@bob-ny6kn5 жыл бұрын
Trying to catch your eye to pass to you a video idea: *** Re-build a disc brake caliper. *** You have covered pad replacement, rim-to-disc brake conversion and cable-to-hydrolic conversion, but no "break-it-down, build-it-up" for the calipers. The few I have taken apart were for inspection (why was it not working?). On some I could replace a part or parts with other less-than-working calipers. Consider this for a future video? Thank you.
@freeganjustin66995 жыл бұрын
I once rebuilt a fixed cog wheel completely to get the cogs off. You'd have been useful to have around.
@mariancio85533 жыл бұрын
RJ: that is almost impossible to do RJ next second: imma teach you how to do it
@christidmas39955 жыл бұрын
So good.Often wondered how to do that.
@rohemoriyama5 жыл бұрын
So great
@ThisTimeTheWorld4 ай бұрын
Ask any boat captain how rope can grip round metal objects. You may be able to improvise a strap wrench, by using a metal pipe, on the bare hub, by putting a soft rope through the pipe , tying a knot with about 1 ft of slack, twisting the rope loop over the hub center, then wrapping it till torque is applied.
@tomreingold40245 жыл бұрын
Well done, as always!
@danygomes54025 жыл бұрын
Good idea, nice video Btw I'm curious about that hub, it looks nice and beautiful but weird as it has threads on both sides
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
I don't know. It's a tandem hub.
@hectorperu28lima175 жыл бұрын
Muy acertado !!!!
@colinremmer24173 жыл бұрын
Also, just a question, but could you put some heat on it to help loosen it and then try to unscrew it while it's still warm/hot or would that damage the hub?
@RJTheBikeGuy3 жыл бұрын
Try it.
@scottwaldo8045 жыл бұрын
I Managed To Remove Fixed Gear Cogs And Freewheels By Just Mounting The Opposite End Of The Axe Into The Fork End With The Wheel On The Outside Of The Frame
@petermoger81355 жыл бұрын
Have never needed to do this.. don’t think I ever will need to do this.. but still good knowledge to have laying around!
@trekkie99425 жыл бұрын
Almost at 200,000!!!
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
Getting there. :D
@mischiftthecat87395 жыл бұрын
@@RJTheBikeGuy hey so im 14 and have done many of bike repairs for friends and family and have kinda found myself with all these bike specialtry tools and well i even made a wood bike stand which has been amazing for me but i need youre help i have a 7speed cassestte and i plan on upgrading it but i cant because of the freehub so i plan on changing it with a 8speed hub because i found a ispeed wide range casstte i plan on putting on it the only prolem i have is do i need to change the spacers and will i need to redish the rim its such a small change i do not know
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
@@mischiftthecat8739 Best bet is to get a new (or used) wheel made for 8 speed. The spacing of the hub will likely be wider. So you have to make sure your frame will work with it. If it is a steel frame you can spread it. If it is an aluminum frame, you might just stick with 7 speed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6jbdoOIoJh_fMk
@mischiftthecat87395 жыл бұрын
@@RJTheBikeGuy thank you
@razvan4motion5 жыл бұрын
it works also with an impact wrench
@grnmtns1 Жыл бұрын
I have a unique situation. The Freewheel removal tool, a new Parktool FR-1.3, in attempting to break the freewheel loose the tube that mates with the tool starts to skip. Something internal is not locking the tube to the freewheel mounting threads. This allows the wheel to turn counter clockwise without freeing the freewheel from the hub. Any options that don't destroy the freewheel? the wheel jumps several degrees and temporarily stops, like if using a removal tool with worn out splines.
@domingosribeiro12835 жыл бұрын
OK muito bom 👏👏👏👏👏
@pablozuma12005 жыл бұрын
Super cool, thank you!!!
@Junior-fd8ux4 ай бұрын
So I bought a gt race lace sealed hub excited to finally have a set and the freewheel is frozen on there .. can they legit freeze on there ?
@user-nl5yc9ib1k5 жыл бұрын
nice job, you could put some steel nails on a wood board in a round shape to match the freewheel holes and try
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
I have seen that mentioned. Have you done it? Seems like more work for something that may or may not work, and will not work on another hub unless it's the exact same size, and number of holes.
@cledisonsilva98155 жыл бұрын
Great job!
@frankilpazzo15 жыл бұрын
amazing
@chrislukes90375 жыл бұрын
RJ Is there a reason you didn't cross thread the spokes like you normal would on a rear wheel? Is this because you knew you would only be spinning in one direction (whereas an actual wheel would experience reverse force from braking)? I guess I thought lacing the threads in a cross pattern would help stabilize the spokes and help balance the tension as you twisted by hand.
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
I wasn't building a wheel. And I didn't need lateral strength. There would have been no point in doing al that extra work. It was just a temporary lacing to remove the freewheel. www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B004H1UA9Y/ref=nosim/youtube25-20
@philipmarshall-cox26645 жыл бұрын
If you had crossed the spokes, you would end up with only half the spokes bearing the turning force. You would be far more likely to pull a spoke through the rim or the flange. This way, the spoke length becomes almost irrelevant, meaning one set of "z" spokes will serve for any rim/hub combo.
@harutanaka36474 жыл бұрын
Hi RJ, I need to build a rear 7 speeds 700c wheel from spoke. Is gears side spoke shorter then the none gears side? So the wheel can be center on bike frame? I may already saw you discuss it in your video. I can not find it to review my knowledge.
Neat. Never thought about the solution to this problem because I never had this issue to solve.. Query- what is the hub in this video? Seems to be threaded to have a freewheel on each side..
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
See pinned comment or description.
@joeg37415 жыл бұрын
@@RJTheBikeGuy very inventive. But now that everyone uses casettes you probably have less need for this trick.
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
I am guessing there are way more bikes with freewheels then cassettes. :D
@joeg37415 жыл бұрын
@@RJTheBikeGuy on the whole yes- but cassettes are gaining..
@AKASL15 жыл бұрын
Great Idea!!
@tobystanski64683 жыл бұрын
can you make a Universal freewheel remover 1722/2BI video or sell for ?
@RJTheBikeGuy3 жыл бұрын
No such thing as a universal freewheel remover.
@MarcLawrencePH2 жыл бұрын
I tried this earlier. Unfortunately it did not work. Spokes come undone when applying more force. Still stuck.
@howto48205 жыл бұрын
Awsome one
@lindzee9245 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this helpful video. Love your voice, too :)
@felipecorrea78765 жыл бұрын
can u still use the rim after doing that? seems a bit rough
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
The rim is fine. The spokes were giving even pressure all around.
@aldoclausi39555 жыл бұрын
Looks look like a Dura Ace track flip hub that someone has installed a solid road bike axle!
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
Nope. See pinned comment.
@MangoJim905 жыл бұрын
Super!!! Thanks
@slideman.5 жыл бұрын
very interesting! thanks. what type of hub was that (I've noticed it has threads on both sides- why?)
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
Not sure. I think it's a hub made for tandem bikes.
@mat_hutchings5 жыл бұрын
RJ The Bike Guy since it’s a hub from a tandem, could the threads be for a drum brake? I know some older tandems had drum brakes, but not certain how they were attached.
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
See the pinned comment.
@scrapmetal1005 жыл бұрын
ever try an impact wrench instead?
@ratroddiesels19815 жыл бұрын
we liked this video it was interesting , freewheel is that what they use on track bikes at a velodrome ?
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
No. Freewheel is what was before a cassette.
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5TKq2Zjjd6Boas
@poormansmtb52045 жыл бұрын
Where do you come up with this stuff
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
This one came from a comment on another page where someone said they had used z-bend spokes. So I figured out how to make some z-bend spokes, and did it.
@themadscotsman21595 жыл бұрын
I have a disc wheel with a 6 speed block I can't get off, any tips? Thanks
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYemgJ2Qadx2naM Or maybe you have one of these: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6u6in-YZ7eAhqM
@themadscotsman21595 жыл бұрын
@@RJTheBikeGuy Thanks for the reply, It's definitely a freewheel, I've tried fitting the removal tool in a vice and spinning the wheel to no avail, if i remember it took a chunk out of either the groove in the lockring or the tool itself when i tried it last time. Localized heat on the lockring or loads of penetrating oil may be the trick.
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
What brand of freewheel is it? Is it one of the ones with 2 or 4 notches?
@themadscotsman21595 жыл бұрын
@@RJTheBikeGuy It is a Suntour winner freewheel with what appears to be a standard thread lockring and then a 2 notch centre piece.
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
@@themadscotsman2159 I am not a fan of those notched freewheels. Especially the two notched ones. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoKueGt8bLN_a7M
@ChristianGenz5 жыл бұрын
Did this to my DA 7600 hub a couple of years ago and the body got twisted. I still weap tears every night.
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
You were using this technique?
@island665 жыл бұрын
Done that before! Freewheels can be stubborn
@Create_o_raptor5 жыл бұрын
I wish this video was out last week before i destroyed a hub..
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
Ouch!
@steffenstengardvilladsen37405 жыл бұрын
Wow, that looks like a lot of torque was required. Nice trick. Could you not just keep the spokes in the rim afterward, and hook on the bend part of the spoke?
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
You could potentially build a wheel with z bend spokes. But regular spokes would probably stronger. With some special pliers, you can do better tighter z bends that would be better than what I used. Z bend spokes are good for an emergency, like touring and breaking a spoke.
@steffenstengardvilladsen37405 жыл бұрын
@@RJTheBikeGuy I meant that it seems like you could keep the spokes in the rim and use it for the next hub with a stuck freewheel (you said you had several hubs with stuck freewheel). At 4:54 it looks like the spokes are only held in place because of the counter-clockwise rotation, so you could just unwind and pop the rim+spokes on to next hub.
@mattsharpe39895 жыл бұрын
Could you not just use an impact on the freewheel tool? I've heard a number of people complaint about having a hard time getting pedals(with the hex drive on the inner side) and crank bolts out because you need to fight against your own rotating force. All that trouble is eliminated with an impact..air or electric, I don't think I know anyone who doesn't own a cordless drill/driver, just pop a socket adapter in that and go to town...clever solution if your stuck with hand tools though
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
The main point of this video is the holding of the hub. Try an impact wrench. I am leery. A freewheel tool is not made for the impact. I have had one shatter just under torque. I have also had the notches on the hub tear out.
@mattsharpe39895 жыл бұрын
@@RJTheBikeGuy that makes sense, not every tool van handle the power...I've had my share of chrome sockets split wide open..
@FacileAndBored5 жыл бұрын
Why does that hub have freewheel threading on both sides?
@RaNd0Mk1D8o3I5 жыл бұрын
That other side is actually meant for disk brakes, lol
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
Not sure. This I think this hub is made for tandem bikes.
@hennartquentin5 жыл бұрын
why not use a strap wrench ?
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
Have you tried it? I have. It's didn't work. It just slips. And even if it did hold, it's not long enough to to give any serious leverage. Did you see how much leverage I needed in this video? I am guessing you have never actually tried it.
@hennartquentin5 жыл бұрын
@@RJTheBikeGuy It was a suggestion, I did not try. Thank you for trying.
@Jamesthebikeguy5 жыл бұрын
I would have just put the freewheel tool into a 24mm socket on the end of my cordless impact. You can then hold the hub in your hand and use the impact to reverse the freewheel. This can be done while you hold it since each hit of the impact as it goes around will knock it loose.
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a great way to end up int he hospital. Good luck with that!
@1zanglang5 жыл бұрын
@@RJTheBikeGuy I guess that if the impact driver is used at very low speed, and the rim is clamped to the workbench , in at least 3 points it could work, without any danger.
@bob-ny6kn5 жыл бұрын
Likes.
@forevercomputing5 жыл бұрын
So... relace by any means necessary
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
There are other ways to do this, but this is relatively easy.
@andrewlaubi44485 жыл бұрын
Who did that to a track hub 😑
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
It's a tandem hub, not a track hub.
@1zanglang5 жыл бұрын
I wonder who was the one who dislikes this video, and why...
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
Two people now. No idea.
@oooppiikkk5 жыл бұрын
solution to this spokeless issue: add spokes
@RJTheBikeGuy5 жыл бұрын
Yes, but not regular spokes.
@antoniomoranprudencio98135 жыл бұрын
Vaya chapuza tío ,, ni tú mismo sabes lo q estás haciendo Anda y haz las cosas bien y no líes a la gente