How To Replace Fork Seals on Showa Twin Chamber Forks

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Replacing your fork oil and seals is part of regular maintenance and helps ensure your suspension operates properly and internal components don't wear prematurely. In this video, Charles shows the proper steps to rebuilding a Showa Twin Chamber Fork that came off a 2005 Honda CRF450R, but this procedure will be the same for many Honda dirt bikes with 47mm Showa Twin Chamber forks.
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@easternyellowjacket276
@easternyellowjacket276 29 күн бұрын
I just performed service on my Showa forks and followed the instructions of this video. It was a piece of cake to do and my bike now handles so much better with the oil in both chambers changed out and the seals replaced. Charles and RMATVMC, thank you so much for your help. Buy all my stuff through you guys because you guys are all around the best.
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 29 күн бұрын
Great job! Glad we were able to help you out! Thank you for your feedback and always buying from us, it's much appreciated!
@ryanmoore2961
@ryanmoore2961 12 күн бұрын
What an organized, concise tutorial, very much appreciated and you have greatly boosted me my confidence in takin on this job. Thanks again and keep up the great work!
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching and giving us feedback!
@cbsdcc3889
@cbsdcc3889 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks. Took my time, cleaned and, inspected thoroughly and, watched the video, over and over. All in, I was about 3 hours. Totally worth it. Thanks again!
@-TheMillenniumFalcon
@-TheMillenniumFalcon 4 жыл бұрын
That was really helpful! Charles you do an outstanding job.
@jayhayes5039
@jayhayes5039 3 ай бұрын
Used this video to rebuild the showas on my o6 kx250 two stroke a very good step by step video thanks RM
@tonys.
@tonys. 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for creating and sharing all these awesome videos with us!!!!!!!!!! :) Very Much Appreciated!!! Love having the links to the tools in the description too!!!
@joshsrcadventures5297
@joshsrcadventures5297 3 жыл бұрын
You guy are the best, my go to people. It's awesome what you guys do, and thank you for it..
@Jorgem1010
@Jorgem1010 3 жыл бұрын
I like the details in this video. Gonna do my seals tomorrow
@chrisl8597
@chrisl8597 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video! Huge help whilst doing my forks, first one took me about an hour, next fork about 15mins!
@billybobbubbawubba9457
@billybobbubbawubba9457 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect paced, clear information. Good job.
@dnickens20115
@dnickens20115 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Helped me alot with my 2017 kx 250f
@carlson024
@carlson024 2 жыл бұрын
yea great video! wish every how to vid was like this one. well done!
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad it helped! -Charles
@nickspatoulas2422
@nickspatoulas2422 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks!!!
@throttlejockey3366
@throttlejockey3366 4 жыл бұрын
Great content 💪
@mx1209
@mx1209 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Those showa's are pretty simple
@henrrisiavichay5367
@henrrisiavichay5367 2 жыл бұрын
Good job 👏
@robertmillar2037
@robertmillar2037 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@50271
@50271 4 жыл бұрын
Ottima manualita' complimenti!
@fussebd1952
@fussebd1952 5 ай бұрын
Great video thanks
@MrRaunakashish
@MrRaunakashish 2 жыл бұрын
Great in depth detail. I want to know like how can we know which model forks are installed as i bought the bike from someone,and that person had installed these honda crf forks aftermarket. I am not able to ascertain the model year,and because of that i have not been able to order part for these forks
@jakeforsht964
@jakeforsht964 3 жыл бұрын
I lil bit quick lots of going back but figured it out
@CDNgrizzly925
@CDNgrizzly925 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there. I just bought a 2014 CRF 450R and the forks have an mcr A kit inners. I am wondering if this is the same as th Showa fork inners and if replacing the seals are similar or the same procedures. Never had these types of forks before and need help maintaining these. Thank you.
@jordanwhite3249
@jordanwhite3249 Жыл бұрын
Could I re-use my new fork and dust seals that I replaced a few months ago if I need to change bushings now?
@nickbellinger1047
@nickbellinger1047 3 жыл бұрын
thanks man
@georgeconradie858
@georgeconradie858 3 жыл бұрын
When should i replace the dust seal? Mine is pretty worn but dont know if its worth replacing?
@6litercumminseater
@6litercumminseater 4 жыл бұрын
Is this the same process for the kyb aos forks?
@aaronsalomon6981
@aaronsalomon6981 2 ай бұрын
12:23 Amazing instructional video. I have a problem, however. Whenever I get to the point at the end when I am resetting the rebound clicker, the clicker itself does not move. Does the rebound clicker get automatically tightened (thus not allowing it to move when you are ready to adjust your clicker) when you torque the rebound adjusting nut?
@jonesesente7646
@jonesesente7646 3 жыл бұрын
showa produced 47mm and 49mm, where did they based the diameter from? (inner or outer tube?)... are most parts interchangeable?
@ranvirsinghnetam8584
@ranvirsinghnetam8584 2 жыл бұрын
Great video guys Can you specify which types of seal grease do you guys prefer , as I am indian and racetech grease is far-off my grasp. Please specify NLGI 1,2,3 WHICH IS SUITABLE ,and is silicone grease or lithium or regular grease will work without causing leaks
@wilmarventic2816
@wilmarventic2816 2 жыл бұрын
likewise i pumped it a several times but it doesnt work, the rod still not extend, what is the alternative way to remove air from the inner chamber?
@MelvinMelv10
@MelvinMelv10 3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys. When i put the damper unit all the way down on the piston i hear air in the upper unit and oil is coming out of the two holes and the piston rod do not moving the last 1,5 " . And when i put in the damper valve unit earlier into the piston i hear air coming throug the seals i think. Can you help me ?
@sebastiansampaoli472
@sebastiansampaoli472 Жыл бұрын
hola. muy bueno el video. yo no puedo purgar el cilindro interno.
@afmorse5856
@afmorse5856 2 жыл бұрын
Rm can you pls tell people to check the owners manual because I'm working on the same front forks and my forks take 50ml more oil so I have to take my forks back apart and fill em more
@Sustrii
@Sustrii 4 жыл бұрын
one day we will see Betas getting some love in this channel!
@caffeinateddirtrider3395
@caffeinateddirtrider3395 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not understanding why oil has to go into the damper... I’m sure I’m wrong but it seems like that would make to much oil in the forks when you put the recommended amount of oil back into the fork. Or do you subtract a certain amount of oil from the end amount of what you put in the damper?
@BlueADV214
@BlueADV214 3 жыл бұрын
I have the 2020 Tiger 900 Rally Pro which has a Showa fork, but I can’t figure out which video would work for this fork or any literature on how to rebuild it at home. Any recommendations?
@nickcull1782
@nickcull1782 2 жыл бұрын
Triumph service manual.
@richarddarvas2842
@richarddarvas2842 2 жыл бұрын
Hy. oil capacity bottom and top? motul fel oil expert light 5w?
@spankywham
@spankywham 2 жыл бұрын
HELP!! My center bolt on the dampener assembly (bottom of fork) is STUCK. I cannot get it loose to remove the dampener assembly. Can anyone help with getting it unstuck??
@billross7078
@billross7078 3 жыл бұрын
I teach motorcycle repair at a technical high school. My students better not spray any aerosol cleaners into the same pan where we drained the oil into, because it contaminates the oil to the point where it cannot be hauled off for recycling. Just a note for folks that must recycle oils. Bill Ross - Region 10 Technical High School - Brunswick, Maine
@dregsta
@dregsta 2 жыл бұрын
Hey teachers! Leave the kids alone!
@internetpointsbank
@internetpointsbank 9 ай бұрын
Haven't heard that one before. Oil recyclers just ask that you don't dump a ton of antifreeze into the waste oil. Matt - auto mechanic 9 years, Wisconsin.
@diyjeff1838
@diyjeff1838 8 ай бұрын
I just burn it.
@klaytonsa7
@klaytonsa7 3 жыл бұрын
What are the respective amounts of fluid, the inner cylinder (top cover) and the outer cylinder? Thank you.
@jonesesente7646
@jonesesente7646 3 жыл бұрын
i think 145-160ml you just need the oil for it to play the piston rod. then the bigger tube needs on your liking or the stock oil level
@Dreamer_988
@Dreamer_988 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! Tell me which brand of oil would you recommend for use?
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 3 жыл бұрын
We used Bel-Ray High Performance Fork Oil 5W for the forks in this video. Glad it helped and thanks for checking out the video!
@Dreamer_988
@Dreamer_988 3 жыл бұрын
@@rmatvmc could you recommend it to me as an alternative to the more expensive Honda oil ? Sorry to bother you , there's no one else to ask)))
@jonaspierce8993
@jonaspierce8993 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks I have your graphics
@mrblack3480
@mrblack3480 4 жыл бұрын
Would this effect the custom tune I have on it if I rebuild it?
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 4 жыл бұрын
Not unless you change the valving or amount of oil in the forks.
@thelifeofcock5606
@thelifeofcock5606 4 жыл бұрын
I just finished rebuilding my dual chamber showa forks and have pretty much no compression in them I'm not sure what is going on I would greatly appreciate any info
@naderhd3824
@naderhd3824 3 жыл бұрын
No oil in the closed cardridge system
@naderhd3824
@naderhd3824 3 жыл бұрын
Have you pumped it and filled the 193ml in? If that doesn't help just text me on Instagram @Mustermusli24
@richiebennettt1849
@richiebennettt1849 8 ай бұрын
If my front right fork is perfectly fine but my front left fork has been leaking. Should I change both or just my front left one? Just asking 🙌
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 8 ай бұрын
I would say it depends on how long it's been since you changed your seals and oil, if you've got around 20-30 hours on your forks, then it's a good idea to do a full service anyway. But if you have less than that, then yeah, I would only worry about the one fork seal. - Chase
@drewangelucci6889
@drewangelucci6889 Жыл бұрын
If I am just trying to replace to fork seals do I have to take the damper apart?
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
You need to remove the inner cartridge to get your inner and outer tubes apart, but no, you don't have to disassemble the damper.
@tanneradams5543
@tanneradams5543 2 жыл бұрын
How would you torque down the fork cap on the top?
@Mr_Facts
@Mr_Facts Жыл бұрын
Some specialty wrenches have a cut out for a torque wrench. Just snug it, all this torqueing of shit is a bit excessive.
@jameshuntsman6046
@jameshuntsman6046 Жыл бұрын
The Tusk push rod holder was to big to hold the rod holder from interfering with the lock nut. A strap works if you run into this to hold the push rod out so you can loosen or tighten it.
@johnnyharmz
@johnnyharmz 3 ай бұрын
Hey just checking to see if you know... But is this video relevant for a 2021 set of showa forks?
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 3 ай бұрын
Yes it is!
@johnnyharmz
@johnnyharmz 3 ай бұрын
@@rmatvmc thank you!
@glensparks7777
@glensparks7777 Жыл бұрын
I am trying to get the cap assembly back into the damper but I simply cannot get the threads to engage. I’ve done everything by the book but it’s as though it is not inserting completely. Any suggestions? What am I doing wrong?
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
Hi, yeah it can be tricky. Double check the oil level and make sure it's not to high. Then, push the damping rod up as far as you can without spilling any oil out. Then insert the cap assembly, push down and thread in. This can help minimize any air that you would have to compress. Other than that, sometimes people install stiffer springs in that cap that can make it harder to push in. -Charles
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
*too
@Redheadrider449
@Redheadrider449 Жыл бұрын
Are that’s the forks for a 2002 yz125. Thx
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
You'll want to watch this one and reference your manual for specs. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2WWnGSne7t6jZY
@bigoofboi4916
@bigoofboi4916 3 жыл бұрын
I followed every step but why when i put them on my bike, and compress them they dont go back up easily i gotta pick the bike up for them to go back to fully expanded
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 3 жыл бұрын
You most likely have air in your inner chambers. Did you do the test and make sure the compression rod fully extends on its own before putting them back together?
@mctudor2010
@mctudor2010 3 жыл бұрын
@@rmatvmc hey guys, I’m having a similar issue. I put the 195ml into the dampener chamber, pumped the air out, put the assembly back in, tightened it down and the rebound test doesn’t work. Not sure what I’m doing wrong.
@SoulSkis
@SoulSkis 3 жыл бұрын
@@mctudor2010 I was having the same issue. I did it several times with the same results. Ultimately I just added a little more oil than the spec calls for and then was able to get full extension. I figured the extra oil just gets purged anyway.
@3dwezzy740
@3dwezzy740 2 жыл бұрын
mine is leaking from the bottom
@mehdimousavi6573
@mehdimousavi6573 3 жыл бұрын
Hoza ?
@robertsilvarprmotoracing9083
@robertsilvarprmotoracing9083 4 жыл бұрын
How much oil in that suspension???
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 4 жыл бұрын
382ml in these forks. You can see this step at 12:05 in this video.
@robertsilvarprmotoracing9083
@robertsilvarprmotoracing9083 4 жыл бұрын
@@rmatvmc how much oil in inner Chamber????
@robertsilvarprmotoracing9083
@robertsilvarprmotoracing9083 4 жыл бұрын
@@rmatvmc 382 in the external Chamber??
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 4 жыл бұрын
195ml of oil goes into the damper (7:18 in this video).
@robertsilvarprmotoracing9083
@robertsilvarprmotoracing9083 4 жыл бұрын
@@rmatvmc thank you Very much for your attention🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙👍👍👍🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝
@-PlayMaker-
@-PlayMaker- 4 жыл бұрын
Blew my right seal on my 450L while riding in the black hills. Not looking forward to this ngl lol
@aidanvelthuis1267
@aidanvelthuis1267 3 жыл бұрын
Same on my crf250rx. Not looking fun. Might be worth respringing it when I’m in there for my fat ass
@nalyd6386
@nalyd6386 2 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing you got it replaced?
@-PlayMaker-
@-PlayMaker- 2 жыл бұрын
@@nalyd6386 yup both ended up being blown and I just had honda powersports do it for me. $250 for just a reseal for both forks but it needed done
@-PlayMaker-
@-PlayMaker- 2 жыл бұрын
@@aidanvelthuis1267 haha ya im glad I don't have to deal with that problem anymore. I used to be underweight for big bikes but now I'm ideal weight for the stick specs
@nalyd6386
@nalyd6386 2 жыл бұрын
@@-PlayMaker- I’m doing it to my 2008 Crf250r forks, seems alright, I just watch a lot of you tube videos. If you ever have to do it, you don’t need all of these specialty tools, I did my forks on my 2004 crf150f but these forks won’t compare to those ones.
@geofox9484
@geofox9484 Жыл бұрын
0:25 Ha you said doo-doo
@gophop
@gophop 4 жыл бұрын
ugh, not looking forward to this with my KX250F
@zmoney881
@zmoney881 3 жыл бұрын
Same🙁
@ppsh2294
@ppsh2294 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I was thinking of buying either a KX250F or a CRF250R but looks like i'll pick KX250F cuz of Honda's terrible forks.. you think it's a good idea?
@gophop
@gophop 3 жыл бұрын
@@ppsh2294 yeah, I think you'll be happy with it.
@ppsh2294
@ppsh2294 3 жыл бұрын
@@gophop aight, ty
@cooperkimble8388
@cooperkimble8388 2 жыл бұрын
He said dodo
@baileywalker482
@baileywalker482 3 жыл бұрын
Great video dude but no need for safety glasses 🥽
@ssrsuspension8247
@ssrsuspension8247 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, only seen better during Factory KYB training if you want basic training. However my 1 issue is that you give these videos away for 'no charge', every tom, lad and harry can come and view them. The problems this causes in the industry is not good, people attempt to try to do things without really knowing what they are doing, without the correct tooling and often not for a good result. I have just spent a day rectifying somebodies 'Home DIY' work with many new parts on a Showa twin chamber fork, it has cost the customer hundreds of pounds in spare parts because the last person to attempt them was a butcher! In all seriousness though, you could and should charge good money for these videos. Mark @ SSR Suspension.
@dregsta
@dregsta 2 жыл бұрын
Charging for KZbin videos, I bet you'd be ecstatic to pay each time you breathe
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