How to run Udrills (and NOT get them stuck!)

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HAL Heavy Duty Machining Australia

HAL Heavy Duty Machining Australia

Күн бұрын

In this video I'm setting up our oldest, most battle scarred 2.5D, 50-51 mm Udrill into our little lathe... and then sending it headfirst into 4140 steel.
I briefly discuss the different styles of indexable drills (udrills) and why there is ONE specific style I absolutely love... and one I detest. We go through setting them up, with some clever tricks if you run old school style lathes like we do.
I share the G Code we use, speeds and feeds as well.
It didn't run EXACTLY as I'd hoped, but honesty... sometimes that makes for a better video.
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@jdvid007
@jdvid007 2 ай бұрын
Great content. One word of advice, any time you have a mag base indicator with an arm mounted to a chuck and you rotate from 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock the setup will sag due to gravity so it will always find a false center. Better to use either a very short setup with very little weight or a good quality coax.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 2 ай бұрын
That’s excellent advice. I’m in the process of improving the setup with a more rigid indicator base. Someone else also suggested it. Really appreciate the comment brother. Very helpful
@JaakkoF
@JaakkoF 2 ай бұрын
Yep, easy way to check this is to clamp the mag base to a parallel and point the needle on the parallel and then just turn it around and check the dial. Gives a good estimate of how much it shows incorrect with that indicator, base and arm.
@jdvid007
@jdvid007 2 ай бұрын
@@halheavyduty What we use is an indicator with a round stem and pivot joint. The entire thing is less than 2" long and has little weight to it. Take a slug of aluminum and drill a hole in the face of it near the diameter of the drill you are dialing in on. Then drill and tap for a set screw perpendicular to it so you can lock the stem in place. Chuck on the aluminum piece and use that to dial in the drill. The only drawback in you have to use a mirror. Try to find a pivot joint that doesn't use the cheap ball and locking collar, they seem to be made from very soft steel. My service tech has a nice one with a pin in the joint and locking screw.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty Ай бұрын
I like it. Thank you for sharing!
@SirRootes
@SirRootes 3 ай бұрын
I run Sumitomo WDX U-drills, those things are a beast! I used to run a 50mm into 4140 at 1200RPM 0.14mm/rev 80mm deep all day long! But we were running them in Mazak lathes. 💪
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
That awesome! I love how there are some many tooling options out there. Mazak lathes are the gold standard for sure. That and DMG.
@a-fl-man640
@a-fl-man640 3 ай бұрын
what a nice way to drill. i still drill like your grandfather on my little chinese lathe. never knew Udrills even existed. neat stuff.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Thanks brother. Yeah, I grew up watching him wind big HSS drills in by hand. If Hal were still alive I think he’d be fascinated by the new tech… but still use his old favs. Thanks for tuning in 👊👍
@Vankel83
@Vankel83 3 ай бұрын
I use Korloy KingDrill in 303,304 stainless. Just eats it all day long. When using on 6061 we rough bore with after drilling with the outer insert.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Nice! I’ll have to check the king drill range out. I’ve heard good things.
@сашапашп
@сашапашп 3 ай бұрын
Want to see more content about different types of U-drills and other types of drills, maybe some comparisions.. Look forward for it, thanks!)
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Definitely doing that in the future. I really want to show how the different styles run under identical conditions
@truey90s
@truey90s 3 ай бұрын
That coolant looks exactly like genuine Toyota premix pink coolant
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Interesting! We use Holemaker. Can’t remember the brand, but it seems to work pretty well.
@ED_T
@ED_T 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video!
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@AP90Jumalauta
@AP90Jumalauta 3 ай бұрын
Honestly man... This was like easiest subcribe of this year for below 10k followers. Examplery information and presentation.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind feedback! Really appreciate it. Still trying to figure it all out but having a great time so far.
@richardmills5450
@richardmills5450 3 ай бұрын
Those drills are fabulous. Can I ask a stupid question. How do you stop your machines going rusty with all the coolant ?? Cheers
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Not a stupid question at all. It’s a common issue. We actually run a pink cutting fluid called “holemaker” that has excellent anti rust properties. Not commonly used in CNCs to my knowledge. While there might be better performing fluids out there, it does the job for us.
@dikkybee4003
@dikkybee4003 3 ай бұрын
As long as the oil to water ratio is right we have never had any problems with rust. There is an optical gauge you use to check the ratio. We use a synthetic oil that is clear and a mixer that screws into a 44 gallon drum that you can adjust so the ratio is right. The manufacturer gives you the recommended ratio but we normally aim for a slightly higher oil ratio to allow for heavy cutting. Maybe every 5-8th top up you can use straight water as it evaporates but you have to check to make sure the ratio is still right otherwise it may rust the machine.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Good to know. We do check out periodically with a refractometer, but honestly I just go by eye half the time. What coolant are you using?
@richardmills5450
@richardmills5450 3 ай бұрын
@@halheavyduty I dont run coolant. I just brush cutting oil on the work piece as I dont want my lathe to go rusty. Sum have used neat thin oil as coolant to stop rust. Im not sure which way to go yet. cheers matey
@thunderthormx
@thunderthormx 3 ай бұрын
I keep getting a small little long nub in the center of my hole. Does this mean my drill is too high?
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
It usually means you’re not drilling at the correct diameter, or center bight might be a little off. Try running it immediately after dialling it into zero and see what happens. I’ve had this happen too
@jxheim
@jxheim 3 ай бұрын
I just broke a 5mm tap on my second last hole after being on the mill for 5 hours.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
It’s the worst hey. Fark. It always seems to happen riiiiight a the end of an otherwise perfect job too.
@jxheim
@jxheim 3 ай бұрын
@@halheavyduty luckily I drilled it out
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
👊
@gusmcgussy3299
@gusmcgussy3299 2 ай бұрын
Wow u can spin indicators upside down in australia?
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 2 ай бұрын
Hahaha. Pretty much everything is upside down here.
@bobhudson6659
@bobhudson6659 2 ай бұрын
@@halheavyduty Our water goes anti clockwise down the plug hole too!!!!
@barrycaudle9926
@barrycaudle9926 3 ай бұрын
Nice explanation
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Cheers Barry. Thanks for tuning in brother 👊
@tymz-r-achangin
@tymz-r-achangin 2 ай бұрын
but what is the reason why the industry called them a Udrill? Is it something so basic as them saying You (U) are drilling it?
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 2 ай бұрын
I genuinely don’t know why they’re called a UDrill - the technical name is an indexable drill. Got me baffled too
@WCGwkf
@WCGwkf 3 ай бұрын
These feeds and speeds might be appropriate here, but are painfully slow and timely for a modern machine. This is the speeds I'd run on a machine from the late 80s/90s. Something newer and regular size I can run a 1.75 inch 4xd drill at 2000rpm/ .007" F/rev. in 4140 PHT. You can't just go and do that, you need a machine and tools and inserts made for it. Seco tools do that without a sweat on a doosan lathe. These feeds/speeds are what the old guys are running everything at, I'm their supervisor, they just dont want to do it and i dont force them to. I also get shit done 2-3 times faster.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
I really appreciate this comment. You’re spot on the painfully slow nature. Since this video, that 50mm Udrills is now running closer to 900-1000 RPM and cutting pretty well. I’d like to run them harder, but we are limited by the machines. I’m going to be more clear about that in future videos. As most do what we do in our workshop is heavy duty repairs, when it comes to manufacture we don’t have the RPM. Even our smallest lathe is a 1300 RPM max on the chuck. Hopefully one day soon we’ll either get a DMG or Doosan specifically for larger production runs. Thanks for sharing your speeds and feeds too. Much appreciated - and glad to hear you don’t force people to run too hard out of their comfort zone. Sometimes it’s just our example that end up encouraging people to step up a bit. Thanks again mate. Great comment from someone who clearly knows their stuff 👊💯
@chrislowes1335
@chrislowes1335 2 ай бұрын
I worked at an engineering company maching a lot of 316 stainless. The guy running one of the large swift manual lathes needed to put a large hole in a part, so he borrowed a 90mm u drill from the cnc lathe operator. He was told that if he wrecked it that it would be on him! I saw the result of incorrect running of the u drill which now had a 90 degree bend in it! The cnc guy said he needed to tell the workshop manager what he had done as it was the only 90mm drill and the cnc guy needed it for a particular part!
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 2 ай бұрын
Faaaark. I bet there was noise 🤣
@glenndwyer5786
@glenndwyer5786 Ай бұрын
It's good to see someone on KZbin using realistic speeds and feeds, you can use all the formula in the world,there is no substitute for experience
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty Ай бұрын
Thanks mate. Yeah, I’m not looking to set any records - just get the job done safely and without damaging anything. “comfortable maximum” is my speed 👊
@brianmckenzie1739
@brianmckenzie1739 3 ай бұрын
A most worthwhile video - with a great description. Surprised you stopped the rotation at 11:17 with the drill still in contact.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Well spotted Brian. I was wondering if someone would pick m that up! I usually wouldn’t do it like that to be completely honest. Just hard to record a video and run the machine at the same time. Usually I’d keep the rotation going and stop the feed. Thanks for commenting, and for tuning in 👊
@RalfyCustoms
@RalfyCustoms 3 ай бұрын
Awesome Matt, thats incredibly informative and entertaining mate 🎉
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Cheers brother. Appreciate the kind feedback.
@martinkscott
@martinkscott 2 ай бұрын
Very good information in your video buddy 👍🏻👍🏻
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 2 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@charleswelch249
@charleswelch249 2 ай бұрын
Your information is spot on, even for us guys with antique manual lathes. I've found that running under the limit a bit saves tooling and parts. Which equals money in the bank persay. Great video and great advice.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback mate! Appreciate it. Yeah, I find that keeping it to a comfortable maximum stops tool breakage and makes jobs quicker in the long run too.
@gulch1969
@gulch1969 3 ай бұрын
We run all types of indexable drills in mild steel, 4150 pht and stainless. The one that has the least amount of tool pressure and squeal is the Kyocera Magic drill. Have you used those before?
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
I’ve never used of it, but will DEFINITELY check it out. Thank you very much mate 💯
@gulch1969
@gulch1969 3 ай бұрын
@@halheavyduty They have a few different styles, the DRZ with the 55 deg style inserts are my favorite.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
I haven’t used it yet, but you’re not the first to suggest it on this video. Definitely going to check it out. Thank you!
@wk7060
@wk7060 2 ай бұрын
We ran the 2 insert style U drill, some up to 3 1/2” diameter.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 2 ай бұрын
Nice! That’s a solid Udrill 💯
@MantismanTM
@MantismanTM 2 ай бұрын
What was the spindle & feed load during the drilling with the cutting data you used on that machine in this video? I was hoping to see the screen whilst you were drilling.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 2 ай бұрын
From memory it was less than 50% on both. I’ll make sure I post all the data on the next run - and put the screen up too.
@aliceran5897
@aliceran5897 2 ай бұрын
Akko drill 2x performance😊
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 2 ай бұрын
I haven’t purchased any Akko drills of any sort yet, but one of my tool reps stocks them. Have you used any of their Udrills or drilling stuff in general? I like Akko generally as they tend to be very reasonably priced.
@tansit2344
@tansit2344 3 ай бұрын
85%, Comfortable maximum, I like that. I had a guy always want to push stuff, 4x the carbide usage, blown up collets, scrap parts, ejected parts. I like boring dependable data.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
💯 Success in this game is a marathon, not a sprint (in my opinion) Thanks for tuning in mate 👊
@abramfriesen9834
@abramfriesen9834 3 ай бұрын
Thank you I'm a millimeter machine guy and I'd like to know the speeds and feeds 12mm u-drill or 13mm
@robbudden
@robbudden Ай бұрын
Man, every time you say that its been a family business and you went into it, doesn't happen as much over here. And that you're so excited, just makes me happy
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty Ай бұрын
I never saw the value in it as a young adult, but as I got older I realised how incredibly fortunate having a family business really is. I’m just deeply grateful to be part of it all. 60 years and still going strong. Thanks for the kind words my friend. Appreciate it
@RutherfordRyan1
@RutherfordRyan1 3 ай бұрын
CNC ignoramus ….very impressed with the U-Drills. Would a pilot hole defeat design function…..or induce more run-out ?
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Great question. They’re designed to be run specifically without pilot holes. As long as they’re dialled in, there’s no need. A major advantage of them. Some of the longer ones, like the HTS I’ll be doing In a future video have pilot bits inbuilt though - to stop them wandering
@theoldstationhand
@theoldstationhand 3 ай бұрын
Good one Matt, been looking forward to the HDS drill since the short. Keep up the good work. Cheers
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
I’m planning on doing it next week. Fingers crossed the big lathe is free. It’s been flat out with big jobs all week!
@dmitryserov5595
@dmitryserov5595 3 ай бұрын
We use Korloy KingDrill 90-95mm (adjustable) on 262mm spindle Skoda boring mill.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
That would be a WEAPON. Love it!
@procyonia3654
@procyonia3654 3 ай бұрын
God I love Skoda borers, those things have alot of sauce
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
I’m going to do some homework on Skoda borers. Super curious. Thanks mate
@procyonia3654
@procyonia3654 3 ай бұрын
@@halheavyduty they also make some lorge turning machines, I ran a 2.5 meter chuck lathe and a 6 meter Vertical lathe they made during my apprenticeship.
@weldmachine
@weldmachine 3 ай бұрын
U Drills are definitely the way to go for roughing out a hole. Maybe 2 other things I could add when using a U Drill ?? Always, use Plenty of Coolant. ( maybe Not possible on a standard Manual Lathe ?? ) You need to get the chips away from the cutting edge as soon as possible. And ?? Don't use a U Drill to open up an existing hole, Unless you're only using the leading edge Insert as a Boring Bar. ( which is another use for a U Drill. But, it can be a Expensive Carbide Insert to use as a Boring Bar ??? )
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Great points. Totally agree. Especially re coolant. They need LOTS of it to run properly. I’ve found that re boring using them - only effective with the shorter ones. At least with 4140 steel that is. We stick to boring bars simply because they give a better finish, but you can definitely use the Udrills if needed.
@bigbattenberg
@bigbattenberg 3 ай бұрын
I like the concept of using a U drill as boring bar. In a CNC lathe there's a limited number of tool positions. I did see an ad for a U-drill type tool saying it has three applications if I remember correctly. Have to look it up, I think it was Hoffmann. In the CAM software at least I'd have to define the tool at least twice, one as a drill and one as a boring bar. So far I have found that our (Hypermill) software does not react kindly to 'used-differently-than-intended' tool applications. One other drawback might be uneven wear.
@weldmachine
@weldmachine 3 ай бұрын
@@bigbattenberg There are some advantages to using a U Drill as a Boring Bar. But like everything in life. Every positive has a negative. Uneven wear is definitely one of them. Especially on the outer Insert where most of wear takes place. I'm surprised a high end CAM software like Hypermill doesn't allow you to set up a tool how you want 🤔 But, then again. Knowing how frustrating some CAM software can be, it doesn't really surprise me 😒 What machine are you running Hypermill on ?
@bigbattenberg
@bigbattenberg 3 ай бұрын
@@weldmachine For milling, SHW UniSpeed and Powerspeed, three Mazaks and a Hermle. I have just started applying Hypermill to the turning department where we have two Okumas, a Geminis and a Weiler. I am in the Hypermill learning curve and I'm sure there a ways to define the U-drill as a boring bar. In fact I have seen them already defined as both a drill and an end mill, this is something my colleague did so I'm not sure why this is. One thing I want to do at least is program the U-drill off-center in turning to get the actual result of the operation in the software. Also It would prevent having to manually input the X offset at the machine.
@weldmachine
@weldmachine 3 ай бұрын
@@bigbattenberg I had a feeling you might say Mazak,s when you mentioned Hypermill. Defining the tool in a different configuration will let you do more in the software. CAM software can get a little difficult if you're too honest with it. It just looks different in Graphics. But you can still see what the tool is doing. Sometimes the software can be designed to be Too foolproof and it gets a little temperamental when you're on a learning curve 👍
@zorlacskaterfreak
@zorlacskaterfreak 25 күн бұрын
UDrills with the WNMG tips are the best from my experience! No chatter and you can push them hard :)
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 25 күн бұрын
Totally agree!
@swamppifi6186
@swamppifi6186 Ай бұрын
The old square insert on the outside had issues with undercutting the size by about 0.1mm , so one company I worked for had us shimming the insert out with thin brass sheet to get it to +0.05mm
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty Ай бұрын
Clever. Personally I hate it he drills with the external square inserts. I’ve found they squeal the worst. The dual trigon style are my preferred for our style of work
@kevinmullner4280
@kevinmullner4280 2 ай бұрын
this is way about my brains possibilities. just started with ab 210 x 400 mm 125 mm chuck mini china lathe...
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 2 ай бұрын
Excellent. You’ve gotta start somewhere. Hal (grandad) started with a small pulley drive lathe that barely worked 😉
@joshualegault1095
@joshualegault1095 Ай бұрын
We use these a lot in our cnc milling machines. They are great because you can drill on angled surfaces without having to mill a flat starting surface. They so make some noise though.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty Ай бұрын
Dont they just! Noisy… but for us… essential. I’ve found running them slower than manufacturers guidelines tends to reduce noise. At least on 4140 steel. What material do you machine mostly?
@edsmachine93
@edsmachine93 3 ай бұрын
Good video. Thank you for sharing what you have learned and the application process. 👍👍 I just subscribed to your channel. Have a good weekend.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, and for subscribing. Appreciate it brother 👊
@chrisoakey9841
@chrisoakey9841 2 ай бұрын
You might want to mount a clear view screen infront of your camera to keep the lens free of coolant. Its basically just a spinning piece of plastic. I would add a layer of laminate so that when chips hit it they only damage the tear off laminate.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 2 ай бұрын
I definitely need to come up with a solution, that’s for sure. I like that idea. I’ve seen the clear view screens on a DMG MORI monster size machine and it worked brilliantly. Appreciate the suggestion Chris. Thank you.
@rpm4999
@rpm4999 3 ай бұрын
Hay great vid Got any data on 316 i am finding my way atm with spade drills 24 dia …made the mistake of pre drilling and it bleu up tips untill i rigged up thu tool cooling and went straight in 800 rpm @ 50mm/min
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Fortunately I don’t have to machine it often. Honestly I find it horrible haha. That, and mild steel are my least favourite to machine. Wish I could be of more help, but my honest advice would be to simply “test and learn” Talk to people Test it out Learn what works best for you Thanks for commenting brother 👊
@rogerrascal8632
@rogerrascal8632 2 ай бұрын
Great video thanks. I use U drills on a manual lathe for up to 30mm Diam. They work well on most materials and are much quicker than HSS for a larger size hole.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 2 ай бұрын
So true. It’s a massive time saver.
@Wyllie38
@Wyllie38 2 ай бұрын
Living in the 85% max is the place to be. Run everything at 110% and yeah you’ll get stuff done faster but that one time the tool gives up the ghost you lose all that time/money saving.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 2 ай бұрын
Couldn’t have said it better myself. 💯
@matthewhankins7120
@matthewhankins7120 2 ай бұрын
I love my 3.5inch flat bottom drill massive chips no squeal so much material gone so quick
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 2 ай бұрын
Nice one. It’s great when you get a tool that just runs right hey
@1AB09CC3
@1AB09CC3 3 ай бұрын
I'll leave a follow. Let's see what your next topics are. For adjusting the tool height I'd recommend using a rigid, short arm for the dial indicator (C shaped with a stud to clamp on with the chuck and a clamp for the dial indicator in the other side - overall length maybe 100mm) as the "common" magnet holders like yours sometimes tend to sag when you turn them from the top to the low position. In my case this was about 0.05mm. Not a big deal with U drills, but for smaller boring bars or solid carbide drills it might become an issue.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
That’s solid advice, and much appreciated. I know the ones you’re referring to… we don’t have any, but it might be time to grab one. Thanks again brother. Great comment
@gregoneill9194
@gregoneill9194 3 ай бұрын
I like how you tell your story
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Thanks brother
@Ddabig40mac
@Ddabig40mac 2 ай бұрын
thanks for sharing the details of your operations, I'm in the process of learning how to run an older (mid 90's) Nakamura turret lathe with a 12" hydraulic chuck and soft jaws.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 2 ай бұрын
Nice! Most welcome. Hope some of it was useful. Great stuff that you’re learning how to use a new machine. Keeps you on your toes 💯
@bigbattenberg
@bigbattenberg 3 ай бұрын
Just this week I have been modeling the actual profile of a U-drill head for the CAM software. Product has a blind hole and the end face needs to be flat. So far all our U-drills have been defined as flat while in fact they are not, which means more material is left than the software shows. For a next operation facing the bottom with a boring bar this gives problems, the software does not allow 'safety air cutting'. With the dia 25 mm Sandvik used the profile depth is around .65 mm so it's not trivial.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Interesting. Sounds like a complicated job 💯👊
@bigbattenberg
@bigbattenberg 3 ай бұрын
@@halheavyduty It's not really complicated as such but the devil is in the details as usual! You see, the tool tip is the highest point of the inboard insert cutting the circular groove as you can see in this video. So while with a flat bottom tool defined the software thinks a flat surface is cut at the tool tip position, in actual fact a substantial amount of material is left.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
💯
@byronselorme9477
@byronselorme9477 3 ай бұрын
Great review of the Udrill. If you ever most some tips for using on the manual lathe as well that would be great
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Will do. Honestly the reason we moved them into the CNC was due to the mess. They drill fine if you follow the steps in this video, but coolant goes EVERYWHERE. It’s a bloody mess 🤣 But you totally can do it.
@CSGATI
@CSGATI 3 ай бұрын
My boss would not buy a drill big enough to get a good boring bar in. DUH
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
😂👊
@isverque74
@isverque74 2 ай бұрын
Parece que pode aumentar o diâmetro usando essa mesma ferramenta.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 2 ай бұрын
It’s possible I think, although this type of Udrill isn’t designed for it (to my knowledge). There are other types that you can use as a boring bar. Maybe this one will too. We just use it for drilling though. Make a hole big enough for Kong the boring bar to get in and take out heavy cuts 🦍 Where are you located mate?
@wibblywobblyidiotvision
@wibblywobblyidiotvision 3 ай бұрын
Good lord, those are nothing short of magic.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
We’re pretty happy with how they perform. Big improvement on how we used to do it! Thanks for tuning in mate 👊
@gregoneill9194
@gregoneill9194 3 ай бұрын
Looking forward to more mate
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Plenty more to come
@gregoneill9194
@gregoneill9194 3 ай бұрын
Very knowledgeable and clear
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Cheers Greg. Appreciate the feedback mate. Thanks for tuning in 👊
@dennis7293
@dennis7293 3 ай бұрын
Very well explained - thanks for sharing!!
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Most welcome, and thanks for tuning in 💯
@thunderthormx
@thunderthormx 3 ай бұрын
Great video. Just subscribed
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Cheers Thor. Appreciate the great feedback mate
@garytelling397
@garytelling397 3 ай бұрын
👍 good content, helps ppl understand modern machining, all I had when I used to make subs was a 3inch HSS spade drill mounted in a shop made bar and then held in the tool post as you explained. Set the rpm and feed then sent it, the subs were 3 feet long and were drilled straight through in on go.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Nice work man! Yeah we just retired our spare drill. The CNC hates it. They can’t handle the Z axis load it produces. Man.. that’s some BIG subs. What were they for??
@garytelling397
@garytelling397 3 ай бұрын
@@halheavyduty Hi Matt, I spent 10yrs doing oil field machining, from 13 3/8 casing to drill pipe. A 3ft sub was a standard length to meet API standards for BSR (bending strength ratio) so that you don't create any week spots in the drill string. I used to work the Hulks bigger brothers😀, the largest had a 16inch hollow spindle, followed by a 14inch.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Awesome stuff! Man I love oilfield / the drilling industry in general. We are looking at getting a 420 spindle (16”) megabore for the super heavy duty stuff. The CNCs we have are struggling with the sizes now.
@Orakwan
@Orakwan 3 ай бұрын
On my turret lathe I can't use the drill in this position. I mean, the outer insert is on X+ side. So when drilling, it will bend toward X-, and when retracting the drill in rapid, it will spring back and scratch the hole all the way. So when reaching the bottom of the hole, before G0 Z5, I like to do G1 X-0.25 this way the insert doesn't scratch the hole in rapid travel. Leaves a better finish and keeps the insert from cracking. On other turrets you can clamp the tool in both directions, but some are locked to one, and it's usually holding the drill upside down leading to this problem
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Good to know! That makes sense. What kind of work do you do??
@Orakwan
@Orakwan 3 ай бұрын
@@halheavyduty really everything, mostly mill-turn with a C axis, small production from 1 to 200 parts, sometimes urgent parts, from 1mm to 2000mm diameter. Almost always 0.01mm tolerance on key features. Every material, from polymers to inconel, hardened steel, aluminium with PCD inserts. Regular old steel most of the time
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
That sounds really cool man. I’m looking at getting a DMG MORI NLX for the inbuilt mill turret so we can do bulk runs of stuff faster. One thing I love about this profession is how insanely varied it is.
@Orakwan
@Orakwan 3 ай бұрын
@@halheavyduty it's so varied that nobody can ever have the full knowledge of it, or reach the top of their field. Every year some new technologies are released in tooling, clamping, materials, machine capabilities. When you think you discovered the best way of doing your work you see someone online doing it even better, sometimes in unexpected places like, let's say, Pakistan 😳 we don't have DMG Mori machines but I always heard excellent things about it. We do have a Doosan Puma lathe with a 12 station mill turn turret and we're very happy with it, but had we known what we know now, we would have selected the Y axis because we are too limited with the C axis, even if it can do a lot of milling already. As a lathe, it is smooth, powerful and rigid, but the milling side lacks power and rigidity because the C axis model comes with the lower quality milling turret. But talking about brands, the Okuma seems to be the ultimate mill turn machine experience
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
I totally agree with the y axis issue bro. If we get a mill turn in the future, it absolutely needs this feature or it’s just too limited. I’ve heard great things about Okuma. Seems the three leaders are Okuma, Masak & DMG. Japanese certainly have a way with precision machines…
@rogertrett406
@rogertrett406 3 ай бұрын
Really interesting. Thanks.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@erikslagter3231
@erikslagter3231 3 ай бұрын
noiicee
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
👊
@gregoneill9194
@gregoneill9194 3 ай бұрын
That was cool
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
👊
@lancer2204
@lancer2204 3 ай бұрын
Great content! A tip for the filming, if the camera is inside the enclosure rig an air line and nozzle to blow air on the lens. This will do a lot to keep it clear
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
That’s a great idea. I really appreciate that. Have been wondering what to do. Will give it a go for sure
@Rabb865
@Rabb865 3 ай бұрын
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
👊👌
@ewildgoose
@ewildgoose 3 ай бұрын
I've just blown up one of these with an interrupted cut (i has drilled out the corners of a square hole before running the u drill down the middle). Any tips on using them for interrupted cuts?
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
I’ve never had any luck with interrupted cuts and Udrills. Totally honest answer. If I HAD to… I’d slow the speed down to less that what the manufacturer recommends, and start on the lowest feed.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
I’ve never had any luck with interrupted cuts and Udrills. Totally honest answer. If I HAD to… I’d slow the speed down to less that what the manufacturer recommends, and start on the lowest feed.
@RyanAUS
@RyanAUS 3 ай бұрын
Bloody good video. I like 85% 8 days a week as well 😉
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
💯 Thanks for tuning in Ryan 👊
@wyattselleck7236
@wyattselleck7236 3 ай бұрын
Oh shut up and drill. 11 minutes in and finally get to see some drilling. Geez!
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Next drilling video will be much less on setup, and way more on testing varying speeds and feeds. Wanted to do this one first so I can refer back to it for setup tips. Thanks for the comment though. Noted 👊👍
@alex-b24
@alex-b24 3 ай бұрын
Excellent vid. We have found that running them slightly off center around X0.01" (X0.25mm) helps really improve the squealing. We run kennametal 1" (25.4mm) ones in 304 and the MRR and tool life is incredible.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Interesting. I’ll give that a go. Yeah, it’s amazing how long the carbide lasts when you run them right!
@alex-b24
@alex-b24 3 ай бұрын
@halheavyduty yeah I learned it from some old timer. I think the idea is it loads the outboard cutter a little more.
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
Awesome tip. Thanks mate!
@mikeroberts9476
@mikeroberts9476 3 ай бұрын
@@halheavyduty Glad you're having great results with the drill. You will get maximum tool life by turning on the coolant before the drill starts cutting. Late coolant flow can cause micro-cracks in the insert cutting edge and reduce tool-life. Also avoid stopping the chuck with the drill still in the cut as that can also cause chipping on the insert's cutting edge. Anyway great video! Cheers!
@halheavyduty
@halheavyduty 3 ай бұрын
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