HOW TO SCALE A LOG PILE FOR CORD MEASUREMENT!!

[@mickgibson1127]

I could listen to you two talking wood all day long & not get bored. My brother passed last year. I miss the chats.

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks for watching!

[@davidedwards3734]

Watched people scale trucks in the pulpwood industry, never learned how. Thanks for the information. Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks, you too!

[@lyndseymarieburke1834]

Good morning Chris and good morning to all the woodyard

[@InTheWoodyard]

Hello!

[@coreyriley7160]

G’morning Chris. Awesome to see the old way from an old timer. A new, fresh technique is due for Ken. Processor and bin dumping. GoodNightIrene

[@InTheWoodyard]

Yup, thanks, maybe so!

[@frontyardfirewood]

Probably millions... dang! Ive seen one of those sticks in my granfathers barn, never knew what it was or what it was for. Had i known id have rescued it 30 years ago. What an art. Great video

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks for watching!

[@ChrisLascari]

I always enjoy watching when you guys get together. I wish i got aling with my brother that well

[@InTheWoodyard]

We do well together for sure. Thanks

[@digger413]

Learning video good video on measuring logs,raining 3 days no snow good think in Massachusetts

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks for watching!

[@cliffjenkins6419]

Fantastic info, the older I get the more I realise I dont know. Thanks Ken and Chris. Cheers from H B N Z

[@InTheWoodyard]

Me too, there is a lot to learn!

[@Andrew_From_NB]

Awesome vid that day Chris! 🔥💯👍. See you soon! Andrew from NB :)

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks a bunch!

[@DanielAtkinsFirewood]

Thanks for walking us through again. Don't know what the issue was with the last video, but this was still helpful. 😉👍

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks Daniel!

[@SGD3000]

The dynamic duo! I was wondering what happened to the first video.This was very helpful. Thanks!

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks for watching!

[@benvasilinda9729]

Good morning my woodsmen friends from Florida.

[@InTheWoodyard]

Morning!

[@toddpacheco4748]

Chris and Ken hiho hiho it’s a logging we go 😮awesome video 😊❤

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thank you 🤗

[@elmiewho29]

Great video. He seems like he can be really grumpy lol

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks. Ken is a black and white kind of guy...just the facts.

[@davidowen1103]

Always get a smile watching Ken and yourself in the wood yard! Appreciate your great content, maybe a 40C? Thanks

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks for watching!

[@anguscreek]

I gotta get me a scale stick like that to keep in the truck. Way better than a tape measure on those firewood deliveries!

[@InTheWoodyard]

You got that right!

[@martiball4531]

Always enjoy the banter between you and Ken

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks for watching!

[@lendevonuk5479]

Good one Kenny & Chris! I would say that common sense lends itself to a Japa 400 series. Best processor for small logs like that! Len (Devon 🇬🇧)

[@InTheWoodyard]

Yup, they are nice machines.

[@NeighborlyHomestead]

Cool video Chris. That is interesting for sure. I've never been around anyone scaling a pile of wood. Thanks. - Tim

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks for watching!

[@colbycox4896]

Al way love the videos with your brother!!

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks!

[@waynetharp]

So is this where the saying "I got the short end of the stick" derived from??? Every part of the timber industry has always been both tight numbers and hard work. Measuring or weighing...someone is going to feel shorted no matter how fair most try to be. Thanks for doing another one of these scaling videos. I had actually gone back looking for the older one and couldn't find it last fall.👍

[@InTheWoodyard]

Maybe so!

[@ScottfromNB]

We always said "I got the s**t end of the stick".

[@briannelson4493]

This is educational Ken I appreciate it, thank you Chris for this video. Keep on cutting

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks for watching!

[@cut4fun50]

I learned a bunch on this one. 👍You guy's are super entertaining and informative GREAT video ❤😎

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks for watching!

[@noelstractors-firewood57]

Thanks guys for that video. I’m gunna try that on our pile. But with a measuring tape. Don’t have the fancy stick. 👋👍🏻

[@InTheWoodyard]

Go for it!

[@Lifeinthe906]

Great info fellas! Chris I think Kenny wants you to get him a processor!!😂

[@InTheWoodyard]

Yup, he wines about it a lot!

[@SteelheadTed]

The weather you are having in this video is what it’s like most of the winter in the lowlands of western Washington and Oregon. Dreary. I guess I’ll take it over 2-3 feet of snow that never melts.

[@InTheWoodyard]

Yup, it has been awesome so far!

[@jayusher576]

Morning guys just wanted to get on and thank both of you for taking the time to learn us a thing.., keep up the great content 👍🏻✌🏻

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks for watching!

[@FirewoodFella]

I'll be looking forward to when you get Ken a processor to operate. If it what I think it is then I'd have to get moving myself. Just need this ground to freeze up. - Tyler

[@InTheWoodyard]

Yup, all wood yards are pudding now!

[@roncaron-l1r]

Good morning Chris @ Ken Have a good day ty for video ( Ron

[@InTheWoodyard]

Good morning!

[@toddsoutsideagain]

It will be cool to see Ken get to use the 40c before it lands in your woodyard. Nice explanation of scaling. I have a different method. It’s simply that’s a crap ton of hard maple🤣 👍🏻👍🏻GNI

[@InTheWoodyard]

Sounds good! I like crap tons!

[@timrydman-mr5hp]

Very interesting how to measure the pile. And the stick at the top measures at the bottom so you can read the numbers.

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks for watching!

[@GerryBerndt-gn4zi]

Thanks for the great info guys keep it going love it, big wood or go home .

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks!

[@annmariekowalski7505]

Great Info. Measuring in tenths is interesting.

[@InTheWoodyard]

Glad you think so!

[@annmariekowalski7505]

@InTheWoodyard I was making an oak cabinet. Things were not working out. All of the pieces were not fitting together. Then I realized that the two sides of the framing square I was using were different. One was in 16ths of an inch. The other was in tenths, which I just assumed was in 1/8 increments. It was in tenths. Duct tape went on the tenth side. Now when I purchase a framing square I check thst both sides are the same.

[@petro00441100]

good info ..thanks ! Chris once you get Ken a processor and talk him into "the bin method" instead of stacking, he's going to be in woodyard heaven !

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks for the tip!

[@haroldanderson2781]

Lubrication is everything. Tell Kenny to spit on his stick!!😎

[@InTheWoodyard]

Okay, I will do that!

[@rickthelian2215]

I remembered last years snow ❄️

[@InTheWoodyard]

Yup,l it was deep and lasted long!

[@danshouseofsmokeandoutdoor7119]

Nice information. Sure hasn’t been much of a winter here

[@InTheWoodyard]

Yup, very mild! Very nice!!

[@Mainelywork]

🤘Great tutorial as was the first one. I’m pretty ignorant on this stuff. So curious what the complaint was. Good work Boys!

[@InTheWoodyard]

I wish I could say, but no. Thanks!

[@backwoodsbiker6629]

You about right on the log cord to firewood cord loss. I've cut hundreds of cords of 8ft firewood and found on average about 20% loss

[@InTheWoodyard]

Yup, I agree!

[@larryvankirk7423]

Nice video guys. Out in the woods, a trade is a trade and keeps the govmt out of the deal. GNI

[@InTheWoodyard]

Yup!

[@jessejones9830]

Morning Chris, just starting video thanks I wanna learn how to scale so thanks

[@InTheWoodyard]

You can do it!

[@jessejones9830]

Yes I hope to buy logs in next couple years so I need a know I'm not getting ripped off,it seems simple thank you both

[@mikehughes2026]

The mystery of where Andrew was going to send the 40 C may have been solved 🇺🇸

[@NeighborlyHomestead]

That's what I was thinking too.

[@InTheWoodyard]

I think it is still a mystery.

[@InTheWoodyard]

keep thinking.

[@NeighborlyHomestead]

@@InTheWoodyard 🤣🤣

[@dolfinwriter5389]

Chris, my son and I brought home two truckloads of very sappy snap-crackle-pop pine today for firewood and got some sap on our coats and gloves. How do you get pine tree sap out of your clothes and off of your gloves?

[@BertsCustomCuts]

Try wd40 it works to get tar off.

[@InTheWoodyard]

Good question! I would just consider it a work coat now! Maybe gas??? And then air outside for a few days them wash??

[@OOOOOO12345]

WD-40 works or any other type of petroleum product will do the job.

[@dolfinwriter5389]

@@OOOOOO12345 What we did was rub liquid Tide into all of the spots and let them soak a few hours, Then I rinsed the spots out and put liquid Tide on again and let that soak a day or two. Washed the clothes and the gloves on the hottest setting, and it all came out. I also took care not to run any of it through the dryer until I knew we had all the sap off.

[@stevekeller9492]

Hi Chris...just watched some of you and Ken's beaver videos. I noticed you use a combination of coil springs and double long spring foot traps. What size and brands do you use? Are the body grips all 330's or do you use some 280's as well?

[@InTheWoodyard]

All 330s we prefer Bridgers and we have a lot of brands #3-#5 and all styles.

[@joeywilliamson1729]

Do I see a brute force processor in the future at Ken’s

[@InTheWoodyard]

That would be nice!

[@leonardryan8723]

Ken that close another on cords . My semi take 21.95 to 23.85 pre / trip on cords . Iiiii iiii delivery it to your yard for $135.00 per cords . Good guy on a chainsaw use to put up 9 to 11 cords a day . Now chainsaw are almost in the pass . Chainsaw are use on big time logging big timber ken . The bigger the timber iiiii iiiii like best load the semi in half the time them playing with 16” 18 “ stuff . 😊remember stick on the ice , saw in the wood 🪵 and rubber on the road . Think 🤔 safety and always put safety first in the forest 🌳. SAFETY is in # the forest .

[@InTheWoodyard]

Okay.

[@FairweatherLane256]

Where does the divide by 16 number come from? Why are we using 16?

[@InTheWoodyard]

Good question! I am not sure!

[@kurtloftfield4537]

Good morning all!

[@InTheWoodyard]

Good morning!

[@timrydman-mr5hp]

That pile of wood is a lot of wood.

[@InTheWoodyard]

Yup!

[@Millstone_Firewood]

When i get logs delivered they typically vary in length from about 10' to 30'. Most being about 25'. How do i scale the pile when none of the logs are the same length? I can get the Length of the pile and the average height, but what about width of the pile? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

[@InTheWoodyard]

Good luck with that! Some kind of uniformity is needed ...hard to measure. I would doubt the accuracy of the logger or truck driver too!

[@Millstone_Firewood]

@@InTheWoodyard I will let you know if I figure out a way to do it.

[@Millstone_Firewood]

@@InTheWoodyard I found a way to do it. I made a short video. Check it out if you have time. Basically, find the number of cords per log. Sample as many logs as is practical. I did 10 ignoring short pieces and the stringers. That will give you an average number of cords per log. Multiply by the number of logs in the pile. Again, not counting any really short pieces. Let me know what you think. Thanks!

[@tomcarpenter6036]

Very interesting, but clarify the cost for me. How do you pay $100 per cord for logs and still make a profit after bucking, splitting, storing and having your money tied up for a year while drying?

[@iffykidmn8170]

Kenny's $100 cord produces from 2.25-2.5 face cords of firewood at $80 per.🤔I think Chris paid around $120 per cord X 2.25-2.5 and sells around $120 per facecord. My fuzzy math says they gross $200-300 per cord minus expenses minus time minus storing minus money tied up.

[@kennethcarlson8713]

It's a slow and low turnaround but that's how it goes

[@InTheWoodyard]

Yup, I pay $100ish (some times...free) a full log cord and get 2.5 face cords at $120 each so $300 in sales leaves me $200ish

[@OOOOOO12345]

@@InTheWoodyard I recently cut and split my first cord of wood. For fun. If I NEEDED firewood I would gladly pay $400+ a cord, not to do it. That was brutal hard work and I was sore for days.

[@trcass1]

interesting segment. Kenny is pretty good at cyphering.....lol.

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks, he took lessons from Jethrow.

[@teddybear4020]

Sorry . CHRIS .Could not read that maker of stick. Can u put it in show details please .

[@InTheWoodyard]

I think I read it off as I showed it. I do not have the stick with me now, maybe re-watch that part??

[@mountaintopoutdoors]

Our wood is going for around $124 per cord here in NY

[@mw1130]

A cord? Maybe a face cord.

[@mountaintopoutdoors]

@@mw1130 that price is our cost per cord.

[@mountaintopoutdoors]

We buy log length firewood

[@InTheWoodyard]

log cord ....right?

[@InTheWoodyard]

got it!

[@carldean6795]

morning folks

[@InTheWoodyard]

Hello!

[@BGWenterprises]

Compared to scribner scale. Thats like learning the metric system. Though WAY faster.

[@InTheWoodyard]

it is easy.

[@iffykidmn8170]

Why does the formula use divide by 16 if the log is 100" and not 96"🤨another short end of the stick or does it account for the bark loss once debarked at the Mill?🤔 Does Kenny's 2.25 cord guy not take into consideration the cookies and boiler wood drop when he calculated his firewood scale.? How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?🤪🤔

[@kennethcarlson8713]

Lots of good questions

[@InTheWoodyard]

I think the 100" is so no log is to short for a 8' board and allows for trimming ends??? Maybe so. 1379 1/2

[@LeBlancfirewood]

When I halled nys 117 permit could hall 120400

[@InTheWoodyard]

nice

[@bekaerttrio2231]

👍👍👍

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks!!!

[@m9ovich785]

Thanks Guys.. Get Cuttin...

[@InTheWoodyard]

Yup, we will!

[@daveswita5483]

Groovy Baby 10-4

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks Dave!

[@TheHonestPeanut]

6:31 did he say heighth?

[@InTheWoodyard]

Maybe ???

[@GregPrince-io1cb]

Good Morning Woodhounds!! Runnin late tday... get to spend a little time with the grandkids... Have a Great Day Folks!

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks!!

[@skidsftw8074]

I smell a 40c coming

[@InTheWoodyard]

Really, all I smell is Kens gas!

[@GregPrince-io1cb]

40° F rainy, dreary, foggy... Here in Ashville Ohio tday... Good day to drink hot coffee!!

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks for watching!

[@Frankzeien]

WD 40 would work on that stick 😎

[@InTheWoodyard]

Maybe so.

[@m9ovich785]

@@InTheWoodyard Ski Wax LOL....

[@LeBlancfirewood]

I'll take a processor

[@InTheWoodyard]

Go get one, you will ,like it!

[@shannonjanes2434]

The Kenn

[@InTheWoodyard]

yup!

[@dalmerjd]

If you want a measuring tape in 10ths of a foot, just buy an engineers tape measure.

[@InTheWoodyard]

Can they reach up 16' and be read at eye level like the sticks made for scaling logs that have been used for decades by the professionals?

[@dalmerjd]

If you know how to use a tape measure you can figure it out. And, it can fit in you pocket.@@InTheWoodyard

[@jackpinesavageadventures3142]

👍🏻👏🪵

[@InTheWoodyard]

Thanks!

[@LeBlancfirewood]

I don't like perfect people

[@InTheWoodyard]

okay?