Yes he does-I work in the trade and he knows his shit.
@divedaz6 жыл бұрын
Apart from the Fact they are Cap Head Screws and NOT bolts. Bolts have hex heads......lol
@urastus92023 жыл бұрын
Apart from the fact that he forgot all about the crush washers and seals on the bottom bolts!
@oscarhatchermtb41327 жыл бұрын
I did this about a year or 2 ago, and it was hard to find any good videos to help me out, I am sure this will be very useful for anyone doing this now or in the future, thanks Doddy and GMBN you help us a lot
@seanhammon66397 жыл бұрын
I'm doing this! Doddy is an excellent presenter! Crystal clear and concise. No waffle, and you can tell he knows what he's talking about.
@kieranrae5 жыл бұрын
Doddy you're amazing! used this video to do my first lower leg service, whole procedure went smoothly and was actually surprisingly easy (with this video as reference!). brilliantly clear and concise 'How-to' video, very much appreciated.
@Jean-jk4zv6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot, I payed 3 times in 2 years for this service for a total of 150€, will do it myself from now on, ordered oils and service kit for a total of 60€ 😅 Excellent video as usual ❤
@RedWingsninetyone7 жыл бұрын
I feel this was much more informative than the Fox fork service video. Great job!
@aronhorn99097 жыл бұрын
Doddy's presenting has definitely improved since he started out.
@MrYugoWRC6 ай бұрын
I saw this video 6 years ago and I'm back. I have a RS recon. Roughly counting the bike has done more than 400 hours. The fork and back shock still feel like new.
@mihaichiriac4805 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I said before servicing the lowers. I didn't have any patience for aliexpress foam rings to arrive, so I bought a pair from a local bike shop (i had to beg to 3, until the last one took an entire bag from the service, after telling me they only have full service kits). Anyway, the fork felt buttery smooth for about a week and.. I lost the rebound adjuster plastic thing; it just fell off somewhere. With all being said, do at least a lower legs and air shaft service from now and then and you'll feel a difference.
@MrYugoWRC5 ай бұрын
@@mihaichiriac480 I feel a minimum difference between my fork and an new one in a shop of the same model. I really don’t see the point of a service, I have trashed the bike for 6 years. I think it will easily survive another 6 without any maintenance. I rather spend €2000 on a new bike and have a next generation of the same model.
@mihaichiriac4805 ай бұрын
@@MrYugoWRC Can't argue with that. Recon is made to last with minimum to none maintenance indeed. But i'd better learn maintenance on o cheaper fork than on an expensove one
@dhananjaybhardwaj76397 жыл бұрын
My Stumpy's Rock Shox Revelation needs a service soon, and Doddy was just so helpful! I am glad that GMBN opted for such a professional and technical guy into the team! Love the details and it was all a newbie needs to know about servicing fork by themselves.
@you9417 жыл бұрын
Can you please link the products you are useing in the description. It would make it so much easier
@roryquirke10024 жыл бұрын
They have to stay neutral
@boskabiker4 жыл бұрын
@@roryquirke1002 ... Stating a massive list of sponsors in the description 😂
@matiflis31207 жыл бұрын
Doddy is actually a really good presenter although he only just recently joined GMBN :)
@paghal115 жыл бұрын
Just did my first ever service on a 2016 revelation rl on a Trek Fuel ex 7 29. Have ridden the bike quite a bit in mud, dust, sand and occasionally perfect brown dirt. Way more than 50 hours. Changed the oil, cleaned the components and put in new seals. The oil wasn't too bad, just a bit murky. I do keep the bike pretty clean. Have to admit that the fork does definitely feel more responsive, kind of like I remember it feeling when the bike was new. Maybe there is something in the manufacturers recommendations, but I don't think every 50 hours is really needed. Maybe once a season should do it.
@hedemalmcarl3 жыл бұрын
once a season then its lower, spring and maybe even damper.
@stevendaniels2337 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this but I'll probably never do this.
@mouadb7 жыл бұрын
Steven Daniels No money for a Rockshox like this xD
@piotrek39777 жыл бұрын
Steven Daniels Lol it is easy af bruh
@MacAudio747 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Easy to follow, will be doing a lowers service soon. Thanks guys.
@IdeI2StOnEd7 жыл бұрын
Nah only poser with 6K bike
@Yo123277 жыл бұрын
How do u find a poser with 500 bike like me
@PabloMollAN4 жыл бұрын
First time doing it. In my case, this video, the RS and the manual were very helpful. However, when trying to putting the oil into the lower legs, I should say move them until they contact the spring then move the lower legs back as much as you can. For some reason the 1cm recommended wasnt enough for me. Oil wouldn't go in. Fork is smooth again.
@gregmerner36326 жыл бұрын
Followed these instructions and knocked it out in under 20 mins. Thanks!
@ryanlezra38547 жыл бұрын
Will We see Doddy Shredding the Trails?
@charlesthesprocket26687 жыл бұрын
Ryan Lezra hopefully
@Create_o_raptor7 жыл бұрын
Ryan Lezra you will be asleep by den??
@LuigiAntonini7 жыл бұрын
Best service video I have seen so far, I really like that he explains all the steps in details and all the possible issues and solutions, great job!
@tylerkruger39753 жыл бұрын
Happy to see the installation is easier than when I hit the “buy” button in my new CSU
@DustedMike7 жыл бұрын
Finally. GMBN needed to do this tutorial. Perfect job Doddy, you got very good presenting skills too.
@colecampagna63024 жыл бұрын
Just did this today following this guide and wowowow does my fork feel good!
@DirkaDirka073 жыл бұрын
Every 50 hours of riding... is this a joke? Imagine if you had to service the shocks on your car every 50 hours... don't think the auto company would sell many of that particular car. These bike fork manufacturers need to get their stuff together and build something that doesn't need to rebuilt after every 20 rides or whatever with their $40 bag of or-ings and grease that probably costs $4 to produce. Great video as always Dotty!
@Adam-vm8kp2 жыл бұрын
Are you saying you can’t be bothered to spend 30 minutes every 50 hours to keep the performance you have paid all that money for? I only replace wiper seals on my forks at the 200hr mark so just do the oil and the form rings every 2-3m or so which are dirt cheap. Try comparing the suggested service intervals on a Volvo vs a Bugatti, higher performance machines require more regular servicing.
@michaelculhane30583 жыл бұрын
I took off the little springs to make it easier to put the tubes back on. Don't forget to slide them on the uppers before though so you have them there for later.
@starlight78307 жыл бұрын
I have had my Rock Shox fork since 2003,,,, I have never cleaned them and they work fine !
@jague2u7 жыл бұрын
Doddy, can you please do another video like this but with a fox fork instead? The other fox fork service videos on GMBN aren't quite as detailed as this one. This is a great vid! :)
@Charliened15 жыл бұрын
Fox fork lower leg service is pretty much identical to rockshox anyway.
@allworkandnoplay767 жыл бұрын
This video is much more thorough than the Fox run through. They don’t even mention changing the seals.
@HaewonJeong-s7e7 жыл бұрын
Doddy makes real good service videos!
@thephilosopherstoner4 жыл бұрын
Dont losen or tighten bolts with the round head of the alen key, it can round out the bolt heads :)
@mtbridersanonymous91522 жыл бұрын
Just got done doing mine rock shocks Judy Silver, watched so many videos then realized none of them were on the silver TK. Blue prints and instruction manual didn’t have the same components either in the diagrams… Took longer than expected but got it done still
@wodstalker28197 жыл бұрын
To slide the lowers back in i found it was easier by removing the round spring from the seals, and then of course put them back in when the lowers are in place
@dw14037 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting long for such an detailed video about that topic. Thank you!
@VvvnimaL7 жыл бұрын
every 50 hour is abit much, i do it every 7-8 months and has been fine for years
@shadow1107 жыл бұрын
Can confirm that 50h is way to much.
@chihirogustafson85577 жыл бұрын
when they say 50 hours they probably assume you're riding super dusty or muddy MTB trails for those 50 hours I just wipe my stanchions and service once a year
@shadow1107 жыл бұрын
Chihiro Gustafson extremely fast downhill trough mud in the rain.
@dimensionsofearth7 жыл бұрын
The thing is with the minimal amount of lube these modern forks have for keeping the fork working smooth it does get dirty in 50 hours which btw translates to a lot of riding! The old open bath systems with 100s of milliliters of oil went 100 hours before service!
@BigSmartQuiz7 жыл бұрын
How is 50 hours 'a lot of riding'? Even if you only went out once a week for three hours, that's just four months between servicing!
@djaddict13537 жыл бұрын
I did this service like 5 times and its way easier than it looks
@callum83227 жыл бұрын
very timely. i'm due for a service although i'm taking mine to the shop. one day i'll have a proper bike sheed, stand and tools.
@tomasrandom64307 жыл бұрын
50 hours of riding? What? Are those forks made of paper? :D
@robertmaguire28837 жыл бұрын
Learning guitar I've been riding pikes for 2 1/2 years not serviced yet and ride a lot. Haven't had a problem
@VanDungLe25107 жыл бұрын
Not yet til u replace all of it bruh :))
@carebearvlogs93916 жыл бұрын
Learning guitar so far i should of had to do this process every week so 24 lower leg services or you know one because suntor raidons for life
@yukelss6 жыл бұрын
previous owner of my 2013 model Specialized Enduro bike said that neither the fork nor the rear shock had ever been serviced... in 5 fucking years. Man I'm scared to open those up. probably ghosts in there at this point
@rando_rabe7136 жыл бұрын
Do it annually
@adammccarthy21575 жыл бұрын
No need to deflate or touch the rebound adjustments pal and Rockshox recommends putting oil in the airspring as well .
@cooperallen2825 жыл бұрын
I was careless and didn't service my Reba and just had to spend 100$ to get it fixed since the seals. So be careful!
@yashs85867 жыл бұрын
We need to see Doddy ride
@a_scotsman_on_a_horse7 жыл бұрын
wow I'm just about to do this for the first time - perfect timing!
@RGCastro77 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, Doddy! Easy to follow and well-presented. Thanks for the advice!
@ryanford53876 жыл бұрын
GMBN, could you do a video like this but for a cheap, entry level fork such as a Suntour XCT? Thanks
@billblackeye7 жыл бұрын
Do a service tutorial for the cheapest rock shox suspension forks like the xc-28. Nobody seems to have one. I know they are easy to service but it would be great to have a video backup.
@Durwood712 жыл бұрын
My local shop charges $75 plus parts for this service. I need to start doing it myself because it will save me a lot of money every year. I've learned to service just about everything else on my bike, but the air forks still intimidate me, probably because they're the most complex mechanism on the whole machine.
@joelbackman1007 жыл бұрын
Great video, Doddy. I'm going to try this myself, now that you got me confident.
@Krigloch6 жыл бұрын
Yo Doddy, just finally did this today. Fairly simple because of this vid. Thanks man! I replaced the upper seal also, was kind of a pain in the ass to take out and put in a new one.
@fieryawesomeness7 жыл бұрын
Truly excellent video, better than SRAM's in my opinion! They suggest using a dowel and a rag to clean the inside of the fork lower, I'm assuming the omission of this step in this video means that this isn't important?
@everhernandez84526 жыл бұрын
Thanks Doddy! for making my life much easier... it's apreciated👏🤘😎
@mileguy72967 жыл бұрын
Is it a good idea to clean the inside of the lowers during the service?
@th_js7 жыл бұрын
Doddy When will we see you ride
@michaelculhane30583 жыл бұрын
He does in one. He can even manual.
@th_js3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelculhane3058 Look at when I posted that comment.
@mrfalafel11446 жыл бұрын
Low viscocity engine oil works just as well for oiling your forks
@ingopaul674 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you explain things so well, I have the confidence to do this now.
@kellyalberda77987 жыл бұрын
Great video Doddy, now I'm feeling more confident that I don't have to take my fork to my LBS since I'm overdue on the 50 hrs...
@hedemalmcarl4 жыл бұрын
Rockshox forks usally come with seals and foam wipers for service, only for one service though
@anonymouspeoplesuck64036 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on servicing a dual crown fork like the rock shox boxxer
@Frazer7774 жыл бұрын
50 hr service on bicycle forks??? You ever get the feeling some people like to make out their jobs more important than they really are?
@gmbn4 жыл бұрын
We're lost on that one Frazer! This is just the service to the manufacturers recommendation of 50 hours of riding time
@Tiger90Drake7 жыл бұрын
is the "lower leg service" enough or is there more to do? When i look at the Rock Shox service kits, they include all kinds of stuff....
@Perseministeri7 жыл бұрын
there is 200 hour service where you basically rebuild whole fork. find your fork service manual to do it right.
@stirlingwilliams91117 жыл бұрын
Can you do a how to service Manitou forks video?
@richjones40815 жыл бұрын
Manitou have their own complete service videos but you will need some special tools to do it.
@Florian5917 жыл бұрын
You make this look so easy ....
@colourofsounduk7 жыл бұрын
There are so many potential double entendres in this video. I bet the outtakes are hilarious ;)
@Nicosk8gm31327 жыл бұрын
#askgmbn could you make a video about coil forks service in a future?
@timotejklena59387 жыл бұрын
Nicolás García That will be super helpful. Good question.👍
@DarkH3lmet7 жыл бұрын
There is no difference between coil and air forks. The lower service is the same.
@rogerneilson8157 жыл бұрын
Minus bleeding air pressure, plus fighting coil spring pressure
@yunnerd32426 жыл бұрын
are coil forks still being made ??
@Charliened15 жыл бұрын
@@yunnerd3242 yes either for very cheap forks on low end bikes or for some DH and Enduro bikes as they are meant to be more supple. Most air forks can be converted to run coil as well.
@Allison_Burgers697 жыл бұрын
Based on your last video on how to service your fork, it says there that you should not reuse the foam seals because it is almost impossible to clean even the seals are still in good shape.
@kasparondrej29387 жыл бұрын
Every two lower leg service you should change alu and nylon crush washers
@Beesno4 жыл бұрын
Dunno if it'll help anyone, but if you're doing this at home, I had to get out a framing hammer to "shock" loose the internals. It felt so wrong, but it was the only thing that worked. (Obviously this shouldn't be the first thing you try.)
@timotejklena59387 жыл бұрын
Can you do this video on SR Suntour coil forks. That will be helpful to lot of people. Good video.
@Razamanaz652 жыл бұрын
I like how the clean rag is a dirty rag.
@chrisleech93406 жыл бұрын
Another excellent mechanical video from Doddy. Done this to my yari today following this video. Piece'o'piss
@escapegravitymedia7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, I'll be sure to give this another watch when I service my pike in the off season :)
@nicolasbozzo23647 жыл бұрын
Make a video for suntour air forks!
@thomask74417 жыл бұрын
Doddy, show us your skills!!
@rogerneilson8157 жыл бұрын
I wud recommend not setting same pressure, with slicker suspension your sag will set better than if it was sticky. That's more for if you're in a shop and don't have the rider to set.
@jeffmnacra53367 жыл бұрын
Like many videos on YuTube, you don't mention the replacement of 8mm Plastic Crush Washers and Retainers. Some time on the drive side ,this washer is crushed, and need to be changed ...
@sebastianpuzon50417 жыл бұрын
Really need to do this my fork has been untouched for over 100h
@_Mario_PL_7 жыл бұрын
You are most likely good for another 100h. This is overkill to me.
@ryanford53876 жыл бұрын
2:43 that's a hell of a tap!
@hench_wrench_repairs4 жыл бұрын
8:02 I didn’t do that on my suntour fork and the bolt sheared off...
@ageng.raditya7 жыл бұрын
Where are the cable ties when you need them?
@FM_05555 жыл бұрын
Doddy your vids are the best on forks so I would love to see some vids on sr suntour forks as I don’t think there that bad. Thx mate. 💪🏼🤘
@enuf_psi69676 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks GMBN. Would it be possible to put up a video of how to service a coil fork? Thanks
@antongnatiuk63047 жыл бұрын
do you not add new crush washers to the screws? and do you have to cycle the fork to recharge the negative chamber?
@DarkH3lmet7 жыл бұрын
Only if you are disassembling the airspring. This is a simple Lower Leg service not a Full Service. If you are careful there is no need to replace the washers in my opinion.
@afiqaFaT4 жыл бұрын
Will spraying wd40 to the fork will damage the fork?
@Alexkfpv4 жыл бұрын
Hi Doddy can you do a video on how to do a 200 hour service please
@lenny-q8e7 жыл бұрын
very well expained and easy to understand. great vid m8!
@noth6066 жыл бұрын
Lol I have a headshok Fatty M, but still interesting to see how easy it is on this modern stuff
@gmbn6 жыл бұрын
A classic!
@mr1988ajk7 жыл бұрын
Doddy, after the lower lube oil go's in dont you have to compress the fork down before the bolts go back in so there's no trapped air in the lowers???
@sp00n7 жыл бұрын
No, you'll create a vacuum in the casting, and the fork will not extend fully afterwards. I did this once while servicing my fork (because another video on KZbin did exactly that), and afterwards I was missing a good 10mm of travel.
@adammccarthy21574 жыл бұрын
Of course you can repair scratches, and in wet uk conditions you need to do it once a month.
@fuertep2do3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys nice video congregation. Juts i have a question how much oil did you put on. On each side?
@learntotango5 жыл бұрын
I've heard that you should compress the lowers into the uppers completely (fully telescoped) before adding oil. Here that step is overlooked and the lowers are not fully compressed. Seems as if the result will have too much of an air chamber and the fork will run long and sluggish. Thoughts?
@ryanmorris2877 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on coil forks e.g. RockShox XC30.
@richardwager2837 жыл бұрын
Very good mechanical videos 👍🏻 The 50 hr service intervals, does anyone do it this regularly?
@brsmtbiker25047 жыл бұрын
well done Doddy!
@tommoritz66596 жыл бұрын
Hey Doddy, can you add the tools and materials list to the video description so viewers don't have to watch that segment of the video multiple times to make sure they have a complete list? Thanks.
@badatbikes7024 жыл бұрын
Make sure the bolts are only loose 3 turns or so before shocking them. I accidentally stripped some of the threads out of the spring side...🤦♂️
@Hempflakes Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I’m just confused oh one part. For my Rockshox 35 silver it recommend 10mls of oil. Is that 10ml per leg or 5ml per leg?
@richdhrc554 ай бұрын
By the 1:04 mark already decided it would be smarter and cheaper to bring to my LBS.
@Theo-mb2dd6 жыл бұрын
Guys help needed! Id like to start servicing my forks, but im scared of damaging them: the mechanic that used to service my pike said that one of the 2 bottom bolt was spaned and needed a bit of threadlocker. Can this be dangerous when i need to hit with the mallet?
@richardlawrence97936 жыл бұрын
Doddy, can you do a Rockshox 200 hour service, as I cant find a guide for it anywhere?
@paghal115 жыл бұрын
Check the Rockshox website. They have all the info.
@uthaug7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm going to do this someday.
@GavynPendleton6 жыл бұрын
I was just looking for a video like this!! That’s even my exact same fork
@krelakuma7 жыл бұрын
brilliant video ! keep up the good work!
@sonerbihan2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Doddy, my fork is a RECON 335 SL/120mm travel It doesn't travel anymore than 30mm, the air spring is ok, airtight and etc However the damper leg doesn't travel even if the air chamber is empty The damper cartridge is ok, but even when it's fully opened, the fork doesn't move down, I haven't open the damper leg, but I think that the piston's transfers could be stuck Please give your opinion Thanks Jean Michel
@edt52762 жыл бұрын
A diagram would be very useful when trying to explain the innards and when and why the whole "shocking" step is required.