How to set a schedule on NEST Thermostat 3rd Generation - NEST App Demo

[@andrewmaclachlan4390]

I had a new boiler and cylinder installed this week and decided to get the Nest. I am staggered at how there is no advice from Nest how to set it up. Your videos have helped tremendously and thanks for posting them up, so clearly narrated. Keep them coming!

[@charlieshooter]

Thanks for the kind words! Glad you find the videos useful. The reason I did the very first one is because I couldn't find anything anywhere on how to install it...and it went from there! Thanks again!

[@andrewmaclachlan4390]

Thanks Charlie. They are excellent videos. Just a question - if you set the heating schedule for the radiators say to be at a certain temp between 0500 and 0700 and then a certain temp at 1700 - 2300, do you just set those times in the schedule and in between 0700 and 1700, the radiators will go off?

[@charlieshooter]

You would need to set a schedule at 0700 to a low temperature (say 14/15deg) so it wont trigger the boiler, and then it will stay at this all day until you set another schedule at 1700 to say, 20deg. Hope that makes sense? I am going to do a video on that because I've had so many questions asking about it.

[@andrewmaclachlan4390]

Please do Charlie! I am struggling to get my ageing head around this Nest! So it appears you technically cannot turn the heating off for a defined period, just turn it down! Keep those videos coming - Nest owe you something!

[@charlieshooter]

That's basically it....but if you turn it down low enough (to a temperature that the room won't drop to in a hurry) then it won't come on. Good luck.

[@stevechatha4533]

Ur a bloody life savour!!!! Can't be reading the damn booklet so ur videos have been a great help!!! Consider yourself hugged!! Nice one!!!!

[@charlieshooter]

+Steve Chatha Glad I could be of service!

[@stevechatha4533]

charlieshooter Thank you!! U explain it so well in a helpful friendly voice - I'll be taking ur advice tomorrow when I have a little mess about with this device - bless you, man!!!!!!! :)

[@paulfoster2299]

Brilliant video Charlie, crazy how there are no easy read instructions with the Nest out the box. Your programming video is a lifesaver, but you do not mention the programming of water function only, which would have been very helpful. Not a criticism, would just have made it even more useful for me personally. We have moved into a new house with the Nest already fitted and found it baffling until watching you video. Many thanks. Paul.

[@charlieshooter]

Thanks for the positive comments. The only reason I haven't gone through the hot water functionality is because we only have a combi-boiler, no tank, so I haven't got that set up!

[@paulfoster2299]

@@charlieshooter Got you Charlie, with your guidance on the heating side I should be able to figure it out 😂😂

[@kittybanou8635]

Very helpful video, I could not work out the schedule until I found this!

[@charlieshooter]

Glad it helped you out! 👍🏼

[@delboy2596]

I've had my Nest room stat a year now. Great piece of kit. These videos are great. Nice work Charlie.

[@charlieshooter]

+Del Johnson Thanks for watching. Glad you liked them. And I agree....nearly 2 years in and I still love it!

[@xterraready]

I have had my Nest for some time now. Was on a 2nd Gen and went to the 3rd Gen too. I had a schedule set and I also used the Away feature, it worked great. We would leave the house at 8:30, Nest would detect no movement in the home and go into AWAY mode which would drop the house to its AWAY Temperature. Then at 5 PM, the schedule would kick in, the house would start warming up so when we arrive back home at about 5:45, our house is at our desired temperature. LIVE WAS GREAT!!! THEN... the AUGUST UPDATE HAPPENED!!! Now we leave our home and the NEST goes to AWAY, now called ECO MODE. BUT!!!!! Our schedule for heating the house at 5 PM will no longer kick in and start warming our home since the device went into ECO mode. The only way to get the Nest out of ECO mode is to either walk in front of the thermostat (but I am not home) or launch the app and manually turn off ECO (SO now I have to remember to launch my app everyday) The new update makes the Nest ECO temperatur overide your set schedule. Now, if I ever forget to launch my Nest app, I always walk into my home and it is FREEZING...(winter time now) I cant wait until the summer time now where there will be no Air Conditioning running because I forgot to launch my app. Our 40 dollar old thermostat could at least have our home nice and cozy for us. All Nest needs to do to fix this for us is please create a switch, toggle or something where we can still use the cool Away/eco feature, but still have the scheduled times work for us.

[@charlieshooter]

I see where you're coming from! You could maybe turn eco off so it never kicks in? However that sort of takes away one of the Nest's best properties! We use an app called "Coming Home" which creates a geo-fence at a radius around the property and when we come into that it knocks eco off and the heating on. Not sure if it's still available though.

[@brendapotts6994]

So helpful thank you.I am learning to set thermostat to a lower temperature at night .Look forward to your next videos

[@charlieshooter]

Hopefully I will get a few more uploaded soon.

[@tvmom]

I just got my Nest today and your videos answered all my questions. Thanks.

[@charlieshooter]

+tvmom Brilliant....glad it helped out! 🖒

[@davewiseman6775]

My first nest and your explanation was so easy Thank you

[@charlieshooter]

Pleased to hear it! Thanks for leaving a comment. 👍🏼

[@jeansmith9841]

Hi Charlie, good video. Is there a way to schedule a switch off time i.e. set it to come on at 5.45am at 20 degrees but switch off again at 7.45 or does this happen automatically when we leave the house?

[@charlieshooter]

+Jean Smith If you set a schedule of 20deg at 5.45am and then another schedule of, say, 17deg at 7.45am, that will in effect turn off the heat at that time. It will go to your Eco temperature after it has realised you're not there though, if you've set that up.

[@dawnlaverty3592]

Thank you for your very clear video. I think I might have to refer back to it several times....

[@charlieshooter]

Thanks for leaving a comment. Hope it helps you out....and feel free to have a look at my other Nest videos.

[@johnmcardle7527]

Thanks for the video. Do the times you set relate to when the central heating will actually come on or when you want it to reach that desired temperature? So, for example, if I set it to 20 degrees at 9am will the heating kick in before 9am to ensure the temperature is at 20 at 9am? Thanks

[@charlieshooter]

+John McArdle Thanks for watching. Hope it helps. It is the time you want it to reach that desired temperature. So it will kick in before 9am.

[@LK-km7no]

Your video is really helpful. However, I set it go to 17 degrees at 22:00 and come on at about 06:30 at 21 degrees. In the night however, it came on about 03:00 with a message saying "Preheating to 21 degrees". How do I get it just to come on at 06:30? Thanks

[@charlieshooter]

The Nest has learned that it takes 3hr30 to heat the room to 21deg from 17deg it seems (which is a long time to be fair!) If you want it to just come on at 6.30am on the dot you need to turn of 'True Radiant' in settings. Hope that helps.

[@LK-km7no]

@@charlieshooter Thank you much. My wife has stopped waking me at 3am saying "turn that bloody heating off"! We inherited the Nest when we bought our new house and your video is so helpful!

[@charlieshooter]

@@LK-km7no Pleased to hear you can have a quieter nights sleep now!! 😉

[@richardsilversides7278]

In setting the heat I want to know how long it stays heating as there are 3 shift workers in our house so we come and go at different times so I just want to know how to say switch on at 4:30 but go off at 8am then back on again n off again

[@charlieshooter]

Have a look at my other video here. I think that should answer your question... kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXuyeoSLfNl9h8U

[@dvearn7745]

Thanks for the review. Did you have a view on whether it takes more energy to maintain a steady 20deg say, rather than letting the house cool down and then reheat. I assume there is a tipping point of frequency and duration

[@charlieshooter]

I'm still unsure on which method is the most beneficial. One thing I will say though is don't let the house cool down too much, because everything starts to feel cold....the furniture, the walls etc and then it does take a while to warm up properly again. We don't let our thermostat drop below 17deg now and the max we have it is 21deg.

[@berniessparrow6728]

Watching your video re setting a schedule. Q… how do you set a time schedule e.g.. say on at 7am and then turn off at 8 am

[@charlieshooter]

Have a look at my other video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXuyeoSLfNl9h8U It shows how to set a simple on/off schedule.

[@berniessparrow6728]

@@charlieshooter thank you Charlie

[@basementboutiques8617]

So this stays on until it hits the temp? That’s not what I wanted I just want mine to Come on for 1/2 hr before I wake up & an hour before I get home so house is warm?

[@charlieshooter]

Have a look at my other video on how to set a simple schedule. I've covered how to do exactly that.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXuyeoSLfNl9h8U

[@thinklewis]

All very good but how do you set on/off times e.g Heat on at 7.00 a.m off at 10.00 a.m and then on again at 4.00p.m and off at 23.00 hrs ????

[@charlieshooter]

Have a watch of my other video here kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXuyeoSLfNl9h8V9t It shows how to set a simple schedule like that.

[@rockaperoon]

Great vid thanks My question is I've set a schedule to come on at 1300hrs I want it to heat to 24 Deg then go off at 1600hrs as I have economy 10 meter and this is off peak I want the heating to go off at 1600hrs so I don't pay through the nose but this temp takes the chill off the flat and hope this explains what I want to do

[@charlieshooter]

I've done another video that shows a simple schedule....that should answer your question...... kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXuyeoSLfNl9h8U

[@rizakathebiz7288]

Thank you for the video. I've set the schedule, however it does not seem to start on the times I set it for. I guess my question is what setting does it need go be in for the schedule to work automatically rather than me going into the App manually and turn g it on and off heat mode. Once I left it on heat mode thinking it would kick itself in and out of heat mode and instead I ended up using 8 hours of energy :(

[@charlieshooter]

Put it in heat mode and think of a low temperature as off and a higher temperature as on. 👍🏼

[@IsaacJP95]

If I was looking to set up my schedule so that the heating was only on in the evening, how would I go about doing that? Say from 8pm til 11:30pm and then off through the night and the rest of the day? I have just had mine installed and currently have a temperature set at 8pm but there is no 'end time' so I feel like it will just be on all day at said temperature.

[@charlieshooter]

+Isaac P Using the example you give what you would do is set the Nest to, say, 20deg at 8pm, then set it to, say, 15deg at 11.30pm. Then copy that to each day. The house isn't likely to drop to 15deg so effectively the heating won't come on until 8pm every day. Does that make sense?

[@IsaacJP95]

charlieshooter Ah yes that makes sense thanks. So rather than telling it not to turn on I just have to tell it to keep the house a temperature that doesn't require heating. Much appreciated, on day one and still getting the hang of it! Thanks again.

[@charlieshooter]

+Isaac P No problem...check out my other video on all the other functions!

[@mydeals57]

So how do you set the schedule where you want it to come on at 6pm and switch off at 7pm. I get the switch on part, so select day, time and temp. But how do you tell it how long you want that temp for and when to switch off.

[@charlieshooter]

Have a look at my newest Nest video...that explains it a little better.

[@CurvedSlightly]

You tell it what 'time' you want it to be a certain temp, it'll then 'pre-heat' before that time so it hits that temp at the time you want. It won't come on at 6pm, it will pre heat to be at your temp at 6pm tell it to drop to 18 at 7pm and it will stop heating.

[@patriciamarchand4251]

@@CurvedSlightly and how do you drop, insane!

[@charlieshooter]

Check out my other videos to see exactly what to do.

[@1madcats]

Thanks for the video. You showed how to turn the heat up but how do you tell how long it will stay or how would you set it to stay on for say 4hrs then switch off?

[@charlieshooter]

A loy of people have asked me this so I have done another video which shows this. You can see it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXuyeoSLfNl9h8U

[@Pepa0vojta0records]

Hi, we have scheduled on our old thermostat following: From 10:20 to 22:10 22.5°C From 04:20 to 07:00 21.5°C Is it possible to do this on the Nest as well? Thanks for reply!

[@charlieshooter]

Pepa0vojta0records You can set it to those temperatures no problem but the Nest goes in 15min intervals not 10min so you would have to do 10.15 - 22.15 and 4.15 - 7.00. But setting it for those long periods is fine.

[@Pepa0vojta0records]

Thank you! :)

[@7nhp]

Hi Charlie, your videos are very intuitive. I need some help please; this whole system has gone over my head. I've have never had a stat in the house house and basically I need to programme the heating to the following settings as we are only home for these hours: Mon to Fri 5:15am -8:30am Mon to Sun: 17:00-19:00 Sat: 6:30-8:30 Sun: 7:15-10am the way I understand this is otherwise if I set it to say 20 degrees it will keep switching on until it gets to that which would then be a waste of energy as there will be no beneficiary at home. Can you please assist?

[@charlieshooter]

+Nitin Parmar Firstly....thank you, I try to make them as simple to follow as possible. Ok, here we go. Few options..... 1. Let it learn the schedule by turning it up and down at the times you need it and don't need it until it learns your schedule. Not the most accurate way though really. 2. Set it to 20deg constant and use Nest Home/Away Assist so when it recognises you're not there it will go down to your Eco Temperature you've set. Eco Temperature is the temperature you want it to heat the house to when you're not there. Again not completely accurate and it seems like you'll know when you will and won't be there so..... 3. Set the schedule as shown in the video. Set the first temp/time point on a Mon at 5.15am at 20deg. Then set the second time/temp point at 8.30am at say 16 or 17deg. Then set another temp/time point for 17.00 at 20deg and another at 19.00 at 16 or 17deg. Copy this to all days and then go in and alter Sat and Sun morning. The last one is your best bet for what you want. Hope that's clear. 😀

[@7nhp]

charlieshooter - thank you so much Charlie. Really appreciate your prompt response. I will go with the last option.

[@Goonerette77]

I have made a change to my schedule, after following the video, when will this come into affect, the next day? I asked the temp at 08.00am to come down to 15 degrees, i made the change at 09.00 today, so am assuming that this won't come into affect until tomorrow, as midnight is a new day?

[@charlieshooter]

The schedules can be different for any of the 7 days, so whatever day you set that as, is when it will come on. If you copied this to all days then yes it will start the new day at midnight.

[@KeithHepburn]

So my questions are as follows: 1. I've set a schedule to come on and it was well over the room temperature but the thermostat didn't come on? 2. What happens after the time has passed, how do I set it to go off? 3. I've had it 1 year now and the auto schedule has not set up anytimes for me should I have expected this?

[@vidhyadileepkumar831]

I am quite new nest thermostat. My issue is that I have my heating set for early morning at 5am but most of the nights my heating come on around midnight not too sure how. Please advice me.

[@charlieshooter]

I would imagine the room is dropping below the temperature that the Nest is set at for around midnight. Try dropping the set point to a lower temperature.

[@jonspoard8416]

Thanks for the guide. Do you have to leave the system on for the schedule to work ? I just want to set it to come on at a time.

[@charlieshooter]

Yes, you need to leave the system "on" but as long as the temperature is set to a low figure, it won't fire the boiler. See my other video here.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXuyeoSLfNl9h8U

[@1bobbymac1]

Cracking Charlie but can you explain how get it to come on in the morning for say 1 hr do i have to do a orange dot for each 15 mins or how do i do a start and end time?

[@charlieshooter]

Thanks! Hope you found this video of some help. Have a look at my other video here kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXuyeoSLfNl9h8U That will show you how to set it for an hour or two at a time.

[@1bobbymac1]

looked at other vid of yours now cheers all done

[@charlieshooter]

@@1bobbymac1 Glad the other video helped you out!

[@HabibKhan-bu3br]

Nest website & instructions are useless & not user friendly, the app itself is not easy to use either, thanks for the vid!

[@charlieshooter]

No problem. Glad you found it useful. One of the reasons I made the video is because of the poor instructions.

[@CurvedSlightly]

Yeah, they're utter crap. I haven't read them they're so fucking useless.

[@abuabdillah1956]

Hi, thanks for this. Quick question. Say you want the house to be warm and toasty when you wake up at 6am. Do you set it for say 21° for 6am? When will it start and when will it turn off again?

[@charlieshooter]

Yes, it will come on before, to make it toasty for 6am . When depends how cold the house is really. It will stop the boiler once the room hits 21°c, or when you set it at another temperature.

[@abuabdillah1956]

@@charlieshooter Thanks! I tried this last night and set temp at 21° for 6am. Heating was on at around 2am for some reason.

[@nawaazr5388]

@@abuabdillah1956 Hi Abu, the thermostat can turn on a few hours early to be able to reach the target temperature (by 6am in your case). This feature is called Early-On, and the number of hours that it turns on ahead of time can be adjusted in the settings. See here: support.google.com/googlenest/answer/9246532?hl=en

[@abuabdillah1956]

@@nawaazr5388 Thank You! Jzk

[@Jh-ok7xq]

I set my nest to come on at 15:30 and it’s still turned off at 16:00 so ive had to manually turn it on , any reason why its not turning on by itself?

[@charlieshooter]

Is the room already at the temperature that you've set it at?

[@Jh-ok7xq]

CharlieShooters KnowHow no it’s turned off to save energy , but it doesn’t automatically come on at the time and temperature set

[@charlieshooter]

@@Jh-ok7xq Have you got 'Heat' set to 'off' because that needs to be set to 'on'.

[@Jh-ok7xq]

CharlieShooters KnowHow its set to off as i dont want to waste any energy , does it have to be set to eco setting?

[@charlieshooter]

@@Jh-ok7xq You'll never use any energy with it set to off! 😂 The heat needs to be set to 'on' and then set the schedule to turn it on and off as and when you need it. If you want to save energy, set the scheduled temperatures lower. Hope that makes sense!

[@barrybrown4869]

On the schedule, when you set the temperature to say 2pm, how long does it stay at that temperature for? Also at bedtime how do I set it to shut down until the next morning scheduled time. I've set the times and temps as you've said but find that it's not shutting down and I've got to turn the "heat" off.

[@charlieshooter]

The temperature will stay at that temperature until you tell it to change to another. You might find it useful to watch my "how to set a simple schedule" video here.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXuyeoSLfNl9h8U

[@uzayrdaud9383]

Lovely review helped me alot

[@charlieshooter]

Pleased to hear it! 👍🏼

[@FB-br9mb]

Hiya, thanks for the tutorial! I'm wondering is there a way to schedule for half an hour instead of a full hour? Thanks

[@charlieshooter]

Unfortunately the minimum is 1 hour, but remember, the Nest will only fire the boiler for as long as it takes to reach the temperature set. So as an example.....if you set the Nest to come on at 21deg at 7am, and the room reaches 21deg by 7.20am, the Nest will turn the boiler off (stop it firing up). Hope that helps.

[@MartinPanter-we3tt]

Don’t get it at all - there doesn’t appear to be an “off” button !!! How do I turn the nest on at a set time, and then set a time for it to turn off - having it run at a set constant /temperature between the “on” and “off”? I don’t want my heating on overnight. I want it off completely until a set time in the AM, when I want it to come on for a couple of hours only. Then turn off completely until a set time in the PM when I want it to come on for another couple of hours and go off when I go to bed. The hot water schedule has this feature and is much more intuitive. How do I get the same outcome from the heating? 6:25

[@charlieshooter]

Have a look at my other video that simplifies it a bit kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXuyeoSLfNl9h8U If you think of a low temperature as "off" and a higher temperature as "on" it may help. 👍🏼

[@jackmartin6962]

I'm visiting my daughter in the USA and they have just had a Nest installed free of charge by their energy company (lucky them!). I've ordered my nest and will have it installed on my return to the UK. My question is, can I control the thermostat from anywhere i.e from the USA? Because I have noticed on my Nest camera that it has snowed again and I'm mindful of frozen pipes and would like to increase heat etc. My second question can I also link my Nest Camera to my Echo Spot?

[@charlieshooter]

Hope you're having a good time in the USA. The answer is yes, as long as you've got an internet connection, you can control your Nest Thermostat from anywhere in the World. I was keeping an eye on ours from Jamaica last year! The Nest camera can be linked to the Echo Spot. Exactly what functionality you get from it I don't know though. Check out my video on linking your Nest Thermostat to your Echo product.

[@alisonhollywoodwalker8656]

How long does the heating stay on & how do you adjust that?

[@charlieshooter]

It will stay on until the next schedule point that you have set. See my other video here.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXuyeoSLfNl9h8U

[@lesleygray3503]

i have watched your video and find it very good. I cant understand how my heating is coming on at 3am tho when its set for 6am ! any ideas? if i want it to come on 6am - 9am, then 2pm until 10pm should i only have 4 orange dots? thanks :)

[@charlieshooter]

Yes there should be 4 orange dots in that set up. Maybe the temperature you set it to in between is too high, so when it drops below this, the heating is coming on. Have a look at my other video that shows how to set a simple schedule, that may help. Could be an 'eco' temperature kicking in....try setting a lower 'eco' temperature too.

[@PipJim80]

Thanks for your video but i think I’m missing something. I see how the schedules the boiler to turn on but how do you schedule it to turn the heating off? Example - I set it to turn on at 6:30am so it’s warm when I’m getting ready for work. I leave the house at 8am so I want it to turn off at 8am. How do you schedule it to turn off? Thanks

[@charlieshooter]

You would set another schedule point for the time you wanted it to turn off, at a much lower temperature (a temperature that you know the room won't drop to easily) Have a look at this other video which might explain it a bit better.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXuyeoSLfNl9h8U

[@justelementt1538]

Great Video! Thanks

[@charlieshooter]

Thank you!

[@jamesbates7401]

hi there thanks for the video I've been looking for one for a while. a question for you. between two scheduled points will the temperature remain at the first point temperature until it reaches the second point later on in the day unless you go out.

[@charlieshooter]

+James Bates Thanks for watching.....hope it helps. Yes you're right. If you set it to be 21c at 1pm for example and then 17c at 4pm the room will stay at 21c until 4pm....or like you said, unless you go out in between.

[@rachelwooding7914]

Hi could u help me I've got a nest learning thermostat 3rd generation I've set a schedule for 6am 20°c 9am 18°c 2pm 20°c 3pm 17°c so my question is wat happens if the room temp drops below 18°c at just say 10am would my heating come on or not thanks

[@rachelwooding7914]

Also as of the 7th of December 2022 my room temp had fallen to around 15 or 16°c early hrs of the morning my heating came on at 6am at 20°c but only got to 18.5°c be it shut off at 9am should I change it from 9am to 10am or not

[@charlieshooter]

Yes, it would come on if it drops below 18°c. You'd probably be better setting it a bit lower than that if you don't want it coming on.

[@charlieshooter]

@@rachelwooding7914 As for your second comment, that's up to you, but it does seem to be taking longer to get up to temperature so that might be a good idea!?

[@rmg887]

Good video, thanks. Like others, its trying to get used to not having an 'off' function. My questions is - during a schedule when the boiler is not calling for heat, I decide to manually turn up the stat a few degrees to 22c and the boiler starts. Does this alter the schedule? And when it reaches 22c how long does it stay at 22c or does it immediately go back to the schedule temp? Forgive if this has been asked before!

[@charlieshooter]

If you turn up the Nest in between, it will stay at 22°C until the next schedule point. Doing this will not alter the schedule straight away, but if the Nest 'learns' that you do it regularly it MAY change the schedule using auto-schedule. You can turn that feature off though.

[@rmg887]

@@charlieshooter Interesting. There is a danger then for example, on a Saturday eve the schedule hit 14c at 11pm, normal bedtime, heating off effectively. But you decide to stay up for an hour, pretending to be 18 years old again and crank it upto 22 and forget about it. It stays at 22 until the next morning?

[@charlieshooter]

@@rmg887 That could happen yes...but when you wake up in the night sweating your ar5e off you can at least reach for your phone and turn it down! 😂😉

[@rmg887]

@@charlieshooter 😂 😂 😂

[@andreluiscamposdeoliviera6654]

Please can anyone explain how do you schedule it to come on and off Everyone explain how to set the time and temperature but novody says how it Torns it off on the schedule

[@charlieshooter]

The Nest never actually turns off as such. That's what you've got to get your head around to understand it. You can however turn it off totally in the summer for example.

[@aoifewal]

Any idea how best to use the nest during summer months with a single zone / HW set up. Obviously relying on the temperature wont work as rads will be off, but still require HW.

[@charlieshooter]

You can turn "Heat" off during the summer months. Mine isn't set up for controlling the hot water, but I'm sure that can run separately to the heating.

[@zippymark]

Your house is bloody freeeeeeeeeezzzzzzziiiiinnnggg

[@charlieshooter]

It does drop off a bit in the winter! 🥶

[@RK-fh2wc]

Great videos, much better than the Nest website. So when it’s on a schedule should you leave the thermostat set to ‘heat’ or ‘eco’ or ‘off’?

[@charlieshooter]

+R K Thanks. Glad you liked them. When it's on a schedule it needs to be on Heat. It will go onto Eco when you're away from home, and ours goes Off in the Summer months.

[@RK-fh2wc]

charlieshooter thanks that makes sense! What I don’t understand is how it knows to follow your schedule if you’re away. So if you have a schedule set for it to come on at 5pm but you’re not at home (but set it to come on at 5 so that’s it’s warm for you coming home at 6) it won’t follow the schedule because you’re not at home. But then if you happen not to come home until 9pm one night it might have heated the house from 5pm when there was nobody there. So when will it follow a schedule and when will it ignore the schedule an save on energy?

[@charlieshooter]

+R K If you're not there and it's set itself to Eco, then it won't follow the schedule. I've got another app on my phone called "Coming Home" that tells my Nest when we are nearly home so it will turn it on ready when we are x no. of miles away.

[@mystichammer6517]

I'm confused. When you tell it to heat the house to say 19° at 8am then have it heat the house at 5pm to 21°, does it maintain 19° between 8am and 5pm? Or does it only heat the house to 19° for an hour?

[@charlieshooter]

If you set it like you said, then yes, it will stay at 19°C from 8am to 5pm. Have a look at my other video on how to set a simple schedule here... kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXuyeoSLfNl9h8U

[@iandavenport5105]

How do I enlarge schedule page on I pad ?

[@lyndaalexander7349]

So if you have set up a schedule would you turn off the auto schedule under nest sense? So it's no longer 'learning'... Thank you for the video, very helpful!

[@charlieshooter]

+Lynda Alexander Thank you, glad it helped! It's up to you whether you turn it off. I haven't because it tends to fine tune itself and still learns if you adjust it manually.

[@mungolee1]

So I have set my schedule to come on at 8am and then I added another boost at 6pm but the 6pm one does come on because it automatically goes to ECO! So I always get home to a cold house! I have to manually turn off eco for it to come on... any help ?

[@charlieshooter]

You could turn off "Home/Away assist". That way, it would just stick to the schedule. It's the one issue I have with the Nest is that it has no geo-fence feature set up. I used to have an app that worked with it that told it when you were getting close to home, but it stopped working! Sorry I couldn't be more help.

[@janice.consultraining]

If you go in and change the schedule will the autoschedule then overwrite them.

[@charlieshooter]

Not automatically. If it works out that you're not in or have manually adjusted the temperature, it may reschedule but not that often.

[@bharatthapa2736]

If I set-up 22 degree temp for 7 AM and 6 PM everyday, what time it start and what time it stops? Please help

[@charlieshooter]

The Nest will work out how long it takes for the room to get to 22deg and will start heating in time to get it to 22deg by 7am. You will have to set another lower schedule point for the time you want it to go off....say 9am for example.

[@bharatthapa2736]

@@charlieshooter Another question please. Just to clarify, So I want 22 Degree temperature at 7 AM which mean Nest may start 5 AM or 6 AM or whatever time it needed to start in order to meet required 22 degree temperature by 7 AM. Is that right? After 7 AM, I do not want nest to start heating again until another schedule kick in at 7 PM. Does Nest turn off automatically until next schedule time once it hit the required temperature? or I need to set another schedule after 7 AM , lets say 7.30 AM set temperature to 10 degree in order to keep it not running until another schedule start at evening? I am sorry for bugging you. There is no information to be found in this expensive kit. I thank you for your help mate.

[@charlieshooter]

Yes, you've got it, you would have to create a schedule time at say 7.30am for a lower temperature.....otherwise it would keep "topping up" the temperature to 22deg. Hope that makes sense!

[@petewright2903]

Thanks was very useful

[@charlieshooter]

No problem! Thanks for leaving a comment!

[@esahussain444]

Hi I tried scheduling for the morning at 7 so before bed i turned off the heat and in the morning the radiators didn't come on I don't get why

[@charlieshooter]

If you turned "heat" off, that is why. That turns off the heat function totally, like you would do in the summer for example. You need to turn the dial down to a lower temperature.

[@djcumbiacherodf6299]

I thinking in get the thermostat but I'd like to know if I can change the temp while I'm in another city through the app?.

[@charlieshooter]

Yes, definitely. That is the beauty of this system. You can change it wherever you are, as long as you have access to the internet.

[@millsy1236]

Hi I've just had the nest installed and have a question - I've set the nest to go to 15 degrees at 11pm when I go to bed. if my husband wants to stay up late and manually adjusts the nest to say 20degrees, does he need to turn the nest back down to 15 when he comes to bed or will it go back down to 15 on its own? Thanks

[@charlieshooter]

+Angie Mills It wont automatically know he has gone to bed. It will set the temp at 20deg until the next scheduled point which could be the morning. The best thing to do is set it to 15deg as you have at 11pm and then do another setting for maybe 1am/2am for 15deg so if your husband sets it in between those times it will still go off at 1am/2am. Does that make sense?

[@millsy1236]

charlieshooter perfect sense. thank you and thanks for the quick reply :)

[@gerryrobinson159]

Hi, I'm just about to get a nest fitted for my new boiler. Maybe I'm not looking at the clearly but the video showed how to set the schedule to on but it didn't show how to set the switch off time. Can you clarify this for me please. Thanks Gerry Robinson

[@charlieshooter]

I've been asked this a few times so I think I'll do another video soon showing it clearly. Hit the subscribe button so you don't miss it. Basically, you just set another schedule for the time you want it to go off and set the temperature low, say 15deg (or a temperature that the house won't drop to easily). Hope that makes sense?

[@gerryrobinson159]

Brilliant! Many thanks Charlie. So simple really, when you know how! Instead of redoing the complete video, couldn't you just at text at the end stating that fact? Trying to save you work!!! Much appreciated anyway Kind regards Gerry

[@charlieshooter]

Glad I could help! I won't completely remake the video. I'll just concentrate on how to set it to come on for an hour or so. Unfortunately the only thing I can edit, to add text, is the description, and no one will spot it there. Thanks for watching!

[@gerryrobinson159]

Thanks again Charlie, just found this if it helps: 2. Use Windows Movie Maker To start, launch the Windows Movie Maker. After, select import video to insert the video that you want to add text with. Select edit movie then click make credits or titles. Then add the text that you want to include.

[@charlieshooter]

Thanks for the info. That would mean taking the video down and re-uploading it though, which I don't want to do really. Appreciate the help though. Watch this space for another video....

[@petercanarelli752]

My Nest will not click on for the morning setting (home) but will click on for the later setting(away). Do I have to do the settings for home and away individually. That is, have home on the screen and do the settings and the same for away? Also the fan runs constantly as I do not see a function for AUTO.

[@charlieshooter]

+peter canarelli Is your system set up for Air Conditioning? I'm not sure how that works exactly because ours is only set for heating. Sorry.

[@lamrof]

So I set it on the phone but not running based on that. It just runs how I set it up manually. How can I program what is on the phone on the the device? I can dial the manual setting on the phone and it takes effect. The scheduling doesn't

[@charlieshooter]

Whatever schedule is showing on the phone should be the same as the device. Could try restarting the Nest?

[@lamrof]

@@charlieshooter - What is going on is this. What I have is a forced air heater only. I had used the dial to set a temperature. I then scheduled it manually using the phone and that schedule is on the thermostat. This is the key point I don't see on many guides, the temperature already set using the dial will stay in effect (even though the current value on the schedule is different than the dial value ) until the next change set by the schedule takes effect. In my case it was 6 hours away. This is true at anytime when one uses the dial to set a temperature, it will stay in effect until the next change on the schedule.

[@lamrof]

@@charlieshooter - Thanks for your response. This is a great device messed with some dumb smart features. I think users should disable Eco, Home away assist and automatic scheduling to have peace in their house.

[@charlieshooter]

@@lamrof Ah right, yes. You can manually override the temperature at any time and that will stay until the next set schedule time.

[@mollywatson9914]

Really stupid question Charlie but when you turn the app to OFF mode rather than HEAT mode are you turning off the heat or just the thermostat?

[@charlieshooter]

Having it in OFF mode basically means the heating is turned off permanently...like you would want it in the Summer months.

[@iandavenport5105]

How do I enlarge schedule screen on I pad

[@payalr4721]

Hi - your video is great but I'm having problems with setting the timings. I have done so but the heating just doesn't come on. So for example I have set it for 10pm at 21 degrees and the house is at 19 so surely it should turn on? What mode do I set it on. Do I turn heating off or on or eco for the timer to kick in I'm so confused pleased help.

[@charlieshooter]

The heating should come on if it's set at 21deg and the room is only 19deg. Mode should be set to Heat and Eco should be off. Make sure all these are set correctly. If you're still having problems, double check the schedule is correct.

[@BoogerDeluxe22]

the nest needs a feature where you can set it to cool to say, 77 degrees and then let the house warm up to 80 and then when it hits 80, cool it down to 77 and then turn off until it hits 80 again

[@charlieshooter]

+BILL PAXTON I'm not sure on its capabilities with regard to air conditioning as I don't have it unfortunately.

[@BoogerDeluxe22]

Even if you just use it to heat, your heater is far more efficient when its not cycling on and off every few minutes... ive heard estimates that it uses 6 times more energy if you were to let your house cool down to a certain temp and then run it and heat it up 10 degrees or so.

[@charlieshooter]

+BILL PAXTON Well I can only speak from personal experience and it has saved us money. It doesn't cycle on and off every few minutes though....I think that would be inefficient.

[@Justify4935]

Umm I'm pretty sure it does. It's called heat and cool. You set the temps for both cool and heat.

[@CurvedSlightly]

It kind of does this, you just didn't know it. It's called error correction, so it doesn't actually maintain an exact temperature as it would be flicking on and off every 10 seconds. So it heats and cools past and before the temperature set. When it goes below or above a certain temperature it kicks in again or shuts off.

[@johnlees283]

Really interesting. On my first effort I thought I was setting on/off points like a normal thermostat (Google do say it works like one). But it just maintains the temperture of the last 'point' - which is why it came on at 1am. I now realise I have to set a lower point to take us through the night

[@charlieshooter]

Once you get you're head around how it works it is pretty straight forward! 👍🏼

[@Louisthesaxman1]

Does that not mean your schedule has the heating on all the time then as you have no lower points set?

[@johnlees283]

@@Louisthesaxman1 there is a mode button where you can have heat or off. But once you have your heating on for the winter, yes it is effectively on all the time, you just set change points, which coincide with your needs. Certainly fooled me first time - quite amazing Google don't explain this

[@johnlees283]

Should also say, we just use Alexa to change temperature at will if we are too hot or cold. Then it just reverts to schedule at the next set point

[@Louisthesaxman1]

@@johnlees283 cheers John. I was expecting to set on and off points as that's how most old fashioned timers work. I've now set it to highs for morning and evening and lows at day time and night. Cheers for your help.

[@DavidSylvester7]

How do you know when it’s on schedule vs manual ?

[@charlieshooter]

It will always revert to the schedule at the next time slot, even if you have adjusted it manually.

[@neilbroome7672]

I work 2 shifts days and afters can you set the schedule for a month rather than me having to change it every week

[@charlieshooter]

Unfortunately you can't....you can only set the Nest for a week at a time.

[@Justify4935]

Why don't you just use the learning function? You don't need schedules it learns how you set it...

[@gregharris6851]

Hi I am struggling with the schedule. I only want the heating on in the morning at 6am and to go off at 7. I have no trouble setting it for 6 but can't figure out how to make the heating go off at 7. Can anyone help with this?

[@charlieshooter]

I've done this other video that simplifies it a bit. See if this helps... kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXuyeoSLfNl9h8U

[@ayoldguy1]

Hi, I just got a Nest thermostat for heating and installed yesterday. I set a schedule for 68F at 715am, and found that the Nest just clicks on AT that time, not before in order to bring heat up to desired temp BY that time. Does this change over time as Nest learns how long it takes to heat up?

[@charlieshooter]

It may take the Nest a little while to learn when it should come on, but make sure True Radiant is turned on in settings.

[@danbaker4665]

When you add the schedule, does that do the hot water as well as the heating? Or do you add them separately?

[@charlieshooter]

The schedules are different as I understand. I've not set mine up for hot water so unsure of all the ins and outs with that.

[@CarolBJohnson]

This was very helpful! Thank you!!

[@charlieshooter]

Thank you....glad you found it useful. I've done a few Nest videos. You might find them helpful too.

[@williamharrigan4891]

I have nest in my home but I would like to get one for my vacation home. Has anyone done this? How does it set up on your phone and how do you get to controll one or the other? Do they show up on the same app?

[@charlieshooter]

+William Harrigan I've only got the one Nest, so I've not done it, but if you go in Settings on the App you can "Add Product" which should enable you to add it on your front screen on the App. You can definitely control more than one Nest though.

[@davemccrudden1999]

Does setting the system to eco override the schedule? Meaning that I need it set to Off if I want the schedule to be active?

[@charlieshooter]

+Dave Mccrudden Yes....when it's set to Eco it will just maintain whatever you have set the Eco temperature too. Eco is for when no one is home really.

[@mstar011]

charlieshooter how do you turn eco off? Anyone?

[@charlieshooter]

+mstar011 On the app you go into the screen where you adjust the temperature and click on "Eco" in the bottom left corner. Change it to "Heat".

[@andybrookes2546]

Can anyone tell me what happens regarding the temperature between the two times. So if it has 18 at 6.30am and 10am and 20 at 5.30pm and 10.30pm, what temperature will it work to between 10am and 5.30pm and then again between 10.30pm and 6.30am the next day?

[@charlieshooter]

You would have to set a temperature for it to be at during those times. If you didn't want it to come on, then set it really low. Watch my other video here, and it may explain it a bit better..... kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXuyeoSLfNl9h8U

[@owenlloyd1]

Hi there, I have a fairly obvious question. If I want the heating to come on at 7am at 20 degrees, but do not want the boiler to fire up earlier so the house is at 20 degrees by 7am, do I turn off the True Raidiant option in the settings ? It's just that the boiler is in the kids room and I don't want it waking them up 5 in the morning ? Also if I turn off the True Radiant setting is the Nest still smart enough to switch off the boiler if for example it knows the house will continue to heat up to the desired temp using the radiators in the house ? Thanks

[@charlieshooter]

+Owen Lloyd Its not something I've actually fiddled with on ours...although maybe I should because the boiler is in our bedroom! Just had a quick look into it, and yes, turning it off would stop it coming on until the time you set. However, there's another setting within it called Max Duration which basically enables you to stop it preheating during the night. You can set this right down to 0. Only thing with that is, I don't know what it classes as 'night' so it'd be trial and error. Doing the latter means the Nest will still switch off the boiler early, knowing the house will continue to heat up using the radiators like you said. All that is adjustable in the app or on the Nest itself. Hope that helps!

[@owenlloyd1]

CharlieShooters KnowHow Cheers I'll give it a lash 😊

[@Dazzlar7]

Is there a way of just setting the heating for an hour or 2? Also does it need to stay on eco for the schedule to work?

[@charlieshooter]

To set the heat to come on for an hour for example: Set the schedule to come on at, say, 7am at 20deg, then set another schedule time at 8am at 15deg (or a temperature that your house won't drop to easily) and it'll go off at that time...until another schedule is set for another time. That make sense? The Nest has to be on "Heat" for the schedule to work...."Eco" is the setting it goes to when you're away from home.

[@hamos9847]

if i want the heating to come on at a set time and turn off at a set time how do i do that

[@charlieshooter]

I have covered this in another video. It shows how to set a simple schedule. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXuyeoSLfNl9h8U

[@pamsaxty5609]

Charlie once you have set the logged in schedule on your laptop how do you transfer this to the thermostat ?

[@charlieshooter]

+Pam Saxty I've never done it via a laptop but on the phone or ipad, you are actually changing the setting live....so anything you do on the app changes straight away on the Nest. Hope that makes sense?

[@seriousdamage7666]

So how long will it stay on? Is it only until it has reached said temperature?

[@charlieshooter]

Serious Damage Yes...once it's reached set temperature it will knock the boiler off. If the room temperature drops below the set temperature it will kick back in.

[@7nhp]

Hi Charlie-i've done that but it keeps firing up -i only want it to fire up during the times we described. Is that because the stat says 20 degrees?

[@7nhp]

If so what should it be on the stat - the min 16 degrees you suggested I set it to?

[@charlieshooter]

+Nitin Parmar The Nest should be set at 16deg (or whatever you think would stop it coming on) from 19.00, and unless the house is colder than that, it shouldn't fire up.

[@mungolee1]

@@charlieshooter Hi! This is so confusing !! or maybe its just me! I have set it to come on at 6am ( 21 degrees) and then added another at 8am ( 12 degrees) hoping this will switch it off.. putting it to 12 degrees should turn it off correct? I also did the same for the evening as I only want it on for 2 hours in the morning and 2 hours in the evening. Is it correct that if I have it switched to ' OFF' in stead of 'HEAT' the the schedule won't work at all? I have to keep the original temp to around 12 degrees? I just don't get why we can't just press ON / OFF and thats it !!

[@charlieshooter]

@@mungolee1 You're right! That is exactly how it works. Whilst it is set at a low temperature, it won't be telling the boiler to fire up, because the room will already be at that temperature. And yes, when it's 'off' the schedule won't work.

[@shyam1001]

sorry maybe i'm being thick... suppose i want the thermo to make sure temp is at 21 degrees from eg 10am to 1pm. so i set it at 21 at 10am. how do i make sure it stays at 21 til 1pm? do i have to set it at 21 at every 15 min interval til 1pm? or if i set at 21 at 10am, it will stay on until i tell it to turn down eg 11 degrees at 1pm?

[@charlieshooter]

It can be confusing, but yes, it will stay at 21 until you tell it to change to another temperature. You don't need to keep setting it at 21.

[@shyam1001]

+CharlieShooters KnowHow thanks very much!

[@7nhp]

Hi again Charlie. I have set the default temperature on the nest to 13 so it will fire up below that if it should drop -is that correct? Also in your earlier comment you said I should put 20 and 16 in the schedule to achieve the times i needed. Should it be 16 or 13 as it is currently sat at 16.5 whilst switched off. Thanks

[@charlieshooter]

+Nitin Parmar 13deg is quite low....I would stick to 16deg or 15deg. You don’t want the house getting too cold in between!

[@this_is_SpartAAAAA]

Hi mate look I noticed your early morning settings were at 5am 19degs and at half 7, 19degs....so if you went out the house would it not keep the house at 19 degs all day then.... Would you not put it down to 10degs at half 7 effectively knocking it off... Till nxt schedule or you put it on via the app away from home??

[@charlieshooter]

+jeff parkinson Good observation. My settings are not normally like that, must have been from where I was playing with it for the video. Normally I have it set to come on at 6am at 19deg and then back down to 17deg around 8am so it will be 17deg all day but you could set it to 10degrees if you like. If I set it any lower our old house gets freezing. If you are out of the house, the Nest detects that, and will set the temperature to whatever your Eco Temperature is.

[@this_is_SpartAAAAA]

CharlieShooters KnowHow yeah no problem just had mine fitted which is why I was looking as keenly as a sparrowhawk buddy...

[@charlieshooter]

+jeff parkinson Hope you're getting on with it ok. It is a clever piece of kit!

[@this_is_SpartAAAAA]

CharlieShooters KnowHow hopefully last mention on the subject but I have a thermometer in the living room which I've always trusted that it was accurate because normally tallied up with a WiFi thermostat I used to have sitting in the living rm which also showed the current ambient temperature.... I'm finding the nest is a couple of degrees out (warmer) than my living room thermometer now... Have you ever checked this out of interest.... How does the nest pick up the temp in whichever room it's in ??

[@charlieshooter]

+jeff parkinson As I understand it, the Nest has several temperature sensors to enable it to give an accurate reading. Unless the other thermometer is right next to the Nest I would imagine there will be a degree or two difference in different parts of the room. I've never checked it's accuracy.....but if I'm cold I turn it up and if I'm too warm I turn it down.

[@thehal991]

So what if I only want it to come on for an hour? I can set the on time but how do I set the off time? Come on at 8am then turn off at 9am for etc?

[@charlieshooter]

+The Hal You would just set the "off time" as a much lower temperature....say 15deg, or a temperature that you know the room wouldn't drop to in a hurry.

[@mmc5261]

Well that’s dumb, why can’t you just set it to off 🧐

[@charlieshooter]

Because if the room temperature dropped too low, it wouldn't kick in. It's a different way of thinking to a traditional thermostat really.

[@stevehadley5057]

Hi, I can see how to set a schedule, but it seems to be staying on. All I want to do is know how to just have it to turn on for an hour in the morning and an hour in the evening. If I set it for say 18 degrees at 7am, how do I get it to turn off at 8am? Do I set another schedule at 8am and if so is that temperature back at eco or do I just put 17 degrees again to maintain that heat for that 1 specific hour? Can anyone help, this isn’t covered in any video or help pages. I just want it for 1 hour morning and 1 hour evening...simples...or not! Thanks in advance. Steve

[@charlieshooter]

+Steve Hadley This is the simplest schedule to set. Set it at say 20deg at 7am and it will heat up until the room hits 20deg. You then set another for 8am at 16 or 17deg (or a temperature you know the room won't drop to in a hurry). Then set another one for 20deg at 6pm say. Finally set one at 16 or 17deg for 7pm. The heating won't come on unless the room temperature drops to below 16 or 17deg outside of the morning hour and evening hour. How's that?

[@richardpowell3535]

Great video but how do set the off time rather than the on time?

[@charlieshooter]

Have a look at my latest video called "how to manually set a simple schedule". I have covered how to set the off time in there.

[@richardpowell3535]

CharlieShooters KnowHow many thanks that is very helpful

[@alexsutherland-w8u]

how many schedules can you add per day

[@charlieshooter]

You can do as many as you like, but they do have to be an hour apart at least.

[@KatherineAdams-bj6oe]

how does the nest work for hot water?

[@charlieshooter]

I've not used it for hot water myself but someone might chip in and answer. It is when you have a hit water tank to schedule when that is heated.....i think!

[@iain777uk]

I think I might have made a mistake buying the nest. I work a 3 shift rotation and thought I could program individual weeks to match my shift pattern.

[@charlieshooter]

Unfortunately you can only set the schedule for a week and then it repeats. It will know when you're not there though and put it into Eco mode so it doesn't heat the house when it's empty.

[@iain777uk]

I see, thank you for reply.

[@charlieshooter]

No problem. Hope it helped in some way.

[@CapeCodBelle]

My Nest seems to go off on it's own sometimes getting colder than what I set. Do you have any ideas why?

[@charlieshooter]

+CapeCodBelle I haven't come across that problem to be fair. Is the schedule set correctly? Is the radiator thermostat in the room the Nest is in fully open?

[@zakupilot0080]

My app wont let me move the temps settings in scheduel up or down only side to side for hours how do i fix this

[@charlieshooter]

I've not had that problem. Maybe try uninstalling the app and reinstalling it...that may work?

[@ellenlee9390]

Good advice

[@charlieshooter]

Thank you....hope it helped!

[@arlener1711]

Is it possible to set the Nest to "turn off" at a certain time?

[@charlieshooter]

+Arlene R If you mean to turn off the heating then yes you can set it to go off at a certain time, but if you mean does it turn off completely then no. Although while no one is around it goes into sleep mode.

[@CapeCodBelle]

Thanks for your helpful video! My Nest seems

[@alanbeasley1]

good video but you didnt mention how to operate the domestic hot water system. can you give us a clue please. Alan Beasley

[@charlieshooter]

+alan beasley If I'm honest....as I my set up is with a combi-boiler and I haven't got a hot water tank, I've never looked into it. As I understand it, it's very similar to setting the heating although I think you can only do it twice a day, or 'boost' it whenever required. Thanks for watching.

[@EileenDuBose]

Between the specific times that you set, does the temperature always stay the same.

[@charlieshooter]

Pretty much. It might drop by half a degree or one degree, but the thermostat takes care of that.

[@sexonlegs666]

@@charlieshooter Oh you did not explain that...

[@charlieshooter]

I've done another video on setting a simple schedule....check it out.

[@sarahjames2525]

How does it know when to go of ?

[@charlieshooter]

@@sarahjames2525 Like any thermostat, it detects what temperature the room is at and then turns off the boiler.

[@gimbalair]

I don't think the next actually saves me any money (or uses less energy since gas prices are through the roof) I had a manual thermostat before which came on and went off at times I had programmed. Now I am bright, but confused. Its as though the boiler is always on but only running when it is maintaining a temperature. So when it hits the temperature it has on off control to maintain the heat. Has anyone done a study to determine if it is more energy efficient to have your boiler on at a lower temperature all day long so you maintain a steady state and your property holds its thermal mass. I find my house (well insulated) take a while to heat up and cools down pretty quickly when working at temperature extremes. ie 6am be 20Deg, at 9am, be 15 degrees. at 4pm be 20 deg at 8pm be 15 degrees. If I set the thermostat to say 17 degrees all day would that be more energy efficient I wonder?

[@charlieshooter]

Apparently not....Martin Lewis has done some kind of write up on it recently! 🤷🏽‍♂️