How to set out a garden room base using the rod system

[@fireboyspirit3474]

Jon’s actually bloody good at presenting and I’m not taking the p*ss. 👍🏻

[@davehanna1618]

Really enjoyed this video. Quality work by people who are concerned with quality. Kudos you guys. My wife wants a garden room for her 50th but I'm in Ireland so I'm gonna hafta do this myself. Im an electrician but Your detailed construction video is awesome thanks guys. All the best of luck!

[@kimbo3308]

Great video, good to see other team members , cheers John for the info, I’m picking bits up every day cheers to all of you

[@MMD-z6z]

Dude, if they catch you picking bits n bobs up they will have yah 😂

[@rickyboy82]

Love you guys so hard working I’m addicted to this channel, trying to make a foundation over a culvert and you’ve given me so many tips! All characters as well, much better than the other guys borefest!

[@michala8367]

What is the advantage of a rod system and timber floor over a concrete slab? I am a newbie DIYer and want to build own shed this Autumn. Thanks

[@nickdemetriades335]

Just keep them coming Liam,John & Jen...absolutely top quality work !!!! Blood & sweat went into this one for sure. Well done team

[@anthonywilliamson915]

Johns presentation is very good. really enjoyed it.

[@georgeomalley6066]

Top job on the rod layout John, Jen was a 🍽️ juggler, in a past Life, and Liam is Now Sponsor for Vaseline 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@davidf1877]

Liam, where have you been hiding John - he’s a natural in front of the camera!

[@BB49.]

Always keep away from the red ring! Most definitely agree

[@kimbo3308]

I think you are lucky to have John to do all the prep and leave everything level , so you can pop along and take all the credit, lol , great job to all of you

[@chriswadwell7317]

Brilliant as Always, Truly a Breath of Fresh Air You Guys

[@andrews9967]

Great team and John is a natural. Hilarious chief lol.

[@xX1KingKong1Xx]

damn, this is exaxtly what I needed. Amazing details, and nice change of presenters. Great work Liam + team

[@FunkarLondon]

Great Job 👍👌 just wondering if this foundation can hold a mini gym plus a hot tub with 1800 litre capacity ?

[@trevordarby467]

Great video would be great to work with you and your team if iwas abit younger at 56 think I’m slowing down but I’d enjoy aday on site to enjoy watching you all work together and thanks for the name of your work trousers much appreciated cheers

[@cornwallkid100]

Another brilliant video done by 2 .. of the best 👌 👍

[@klaeLIFE]

Great video and nice to see other members of the team in action and presenting. With regards to ground screws, what about just using a full insulated concrete pad instead? £750 for the rod base. That area is 15sqm and on a gradient which means it has a volume of 4.5m3 if the area is 0.3m deep. You could put in a dpm, stone, sand and concrete in there for less than £450. You could even put your insulation in there and save precious internal height or keep the internal height and have a warm roof. You would be digging it out as this but without the holes.

[@FFTuk]

Would love to see someone in the know reply to this as I’m about to use the rod system instead of a concrete base. Maybe this is better as any timber is off the ground? But then on a concrete base you could raise the timber frame by putting it on 100mm metal post base brackets right?!

[@klaeLIFE]

@@FFTuk I put mine on a concrete base. 100mm hard-core, DPM, 100mm concrete, DPM, 50mm PIR, 65mm concrete with A142 steel mesh. The is then the level of the ground. I have a full warm roof build up which is 277mm thick and still have 2.15m internal height down to 2.05m before flooring and plaster board.

[@FFTuk]

@@klaeLIFE wow man you went all out. So surely that costs way more than this system or even ground screws with 100mm internal PIR floor insulation? Bad ass though

[@klaeLIFE]

@@FFTuk I used 50mm PIR in the floor. At the time I managed to get 3 sheets for a tenner each left over from another job. The steel is now about £50. So really to do the job now it will cost as follows: Hard-core, between 1 and 1.5t so £60, PIR at whatever thickness, say 3 sheets at £150 total, DPM £40 (100sqm roll so lots of spare for other stuff), concrete layer 1 at 100mm, layer 2 at 60mm so 1 to 1.5m3 priced at about £250 for C25 and the steel at £50. That's a total of £250+£50+£40+£150+£60=£550. That's still £200 cheaper than rods and you get a solid damp proof insulated floor, zero or near zero floor height so if you went for a cold roof you would get a 2.2m internal height or go for the best option and have the warm roof and a 2.1m internal height and be without condensation issues.

[@klaeLIFE]

Remember I paid £120 less for my PIR and I managed to get the guys sorting out out my patio to do the labour for the floor.

[@jackgray5749]

Great channel, I'm addicted to watching these. I'm defo building one !!! Are the shoes the same length on all builds or longer for bigger builds ? How many rods would you say for each metre of wall ? Thanks again Liam 🤘

[@thegardenroomguru]

Shoes are 150 long, lots on my self build Facebook group use just washers . I also sell a build pack for £130, all the information you need to build one of 23 different sizes and full itemised materials list 👌

[@jackgray5749]

Cheers Liam....was gonna invest in one of your build packs anyway. Perfect accompaniment to your vids. Top Class work !!! Like I said I'm addicted to watching the channel and started entering the raffles too. Cheers mate.👌 @@thegardenroomguru

[@tommul100]

I learnt alot of tips for these rooms off you, so i would like to give you 1 small tip back. When you tighten a quick chuck turn it back a 8th of turn (loosen) until it clicks then its locked the jaw! I keep seeing your bit come out lol

[@matthortop559]

I've seen another video where they use 20 rods for the same size. Obviously more is stronger however is what you suggest just going the extra mile or is it the standard?

[@bighilly0]

Another top video Liam so informative tv star in the making 👏🏼👏🏼👊🏼👊🏼

[@DJMambomagic]

Milwaukee Impact on max for the Auger drilling mate, try it, it's super fast!

[@ColmMcCann]

Moving the barrow, such a Pro move! Haha!

[@newlinkdirect]

Wear some thin gloves mate, helps your hands (I use ANSELL HYFLEX GLOVES 11-618) only a couple of quid and thin so you still feel the work 👍🏻. thx for all your tips & advice, I used alot in my GR.

[@jkil008]

What model mitre saw and table are you using please? Great video as always

[@davehanna1618]

Where do you get your rod/shoes/nuts and square plate washer? I assumecthe shoes are the fitting you use to attach the timber toothed rods?

[@ryanhovells2339]

Great explanation John. Thank you

[@lessmith3718]

Hi when you helped Davy with the barrow, you should have turned it around the way it’s going to be pushed saves you turning it round before you go..ex tarmacer 🤗

[@thegardenroomguru]

Did a few years on tarmac myself mate

[@lessmith3718]

@@thegardenroomguru great job guys.

[@markhaley]

Hi - Great video, thanks - Is it possible to purchase your ground screws and shoes already cut and made? thanks again

[@MonkeyBabba]

I have watched loads of your video's now for info purposes for my 3.7x2.2 meter shed (man cave) i am going to start next week the info @23:01 about the splicer plates (stretcher plates as you call them) is brilliant as for my foundations i have dug out 460mm long x 240mm wide x 400mm deep holes filled with concrete and fiber (mixed my self in a wheel barrow to save money lol) and used 440mm x 215mm x 100mm Solid Concrete Block 7 on top (12 in total) to rest my base on lifting it 10cm off the ground my father in law says iv gone over kill a little but it is what it is, but i can not get 3x4 timer where i live at all so i opted for 4x4 fence post but the max they do where i live is 3 meter long so my only option is to use 2 of those splicers as much as i trust what i have seen you do i am unsure if it will work as my father in-law says those splicer plates will bow in the weight of the walls unless i use 4 per link as im thinking of doing what you do here and putting them in between (in my case) the blocks but that would lift my floor i am presuming in theory, have you had any issues with the use of 2 splicers breaking/bowing whilst doing your builds, i was more then confident until yesterday in my plan but now i am unsure as i am not a builder or structural engineer.

[@thegardenroomguru]

Never an issue mate, when you board your floor, it spreads the weight, as long as the span between support is no greater than 1.2 mtr they are fine

[@MonkeyBabba]

@@thegardenroomguru thank you liam for the response i honestly wasn't expecting one being such a old video, the span is only 540 mil that will be unsupported, at least now i know i can continue as planned, Thank you again for the info :)

[@thegardenroomguru]

@Pontelad no issues at all there then mate, carry on 👌

[@colinwilson7524]

Love these vids. Is it possible to provide a company or website to purchase these ground screw kits from?

[@kayman1396]

Will the timber prices come down early next year?

[@anthonyellis5517]

I’d love to work with you! Unfortunately I’m in Birmingham 🙁 anyway always great videos and professionalism.

[@philipdavis9579]

Liam ... would it be possible to use first fix nailer for hangers into the 4x3 perimeter 63mm nails

[@peterkwameosei-bonsu6135]

proper grafter Jon is.

[@phdiy3913]

Never mind after watching this video about 4 times a see you are slightly over the 1.2m when you mentioned the tile batons supporting the PIR lol

[@phdiy3913]

Hi Liam the 3 bays from my internal 4x3's will mean that my 4x2's will span approx 1300, 3 times along the width. Will this be ok or should I narrow them, thanks

[@malcolmpurser686]

another good video Liam..

[@MAXIMUS-df3sj]

Do you take speed daily?...looks like it.

[@tompoppitt497]

Hi guys. Quick question. I’m thinking of doing this down the garden. Do you know if the metal bar and shoe method, shown in this video, would be ok for building regulations? Mine will be approx 4m x 6.5m so is over the 15m2 in which I wouldn’t need regs. Cheers.

[@mikeokocha8359]

Hi, this a fantastic video and so love it...Please how and where can i buy the metal footing you used for the foundation. Thanks

[@thegardenroomguru]

Bapps for bolts mate, they sell it all at a good price

[@mikeokocha8359]

@@thegardenroomguru Thanks Mate, please what is it called on their site i can't find it. Thanks

[@thegardenroomguru]

Call 01132439600 ask for Carl, if he’s not in tell them you want the rods, nuts, washers snd shoes we use, they’ll sort you out

[@mikeokocha8359]

@@thegardenroomguru Thanks Mate you are a star...

[@davidf1877]

Liam, what grade of ready mix concrete do you use for installing the rods? Thanks

[@babylon6g]

Postcrete be a better DIY alternative for the rods?

[@fireboyspirit3474]

Can you use bags of postmix/postcrete instead of getting a cement mixer in?

[@antonydennison-greenup903]

Love it……

[@fireboyspirit3474]

Liam do you still have your discount code for Rubber4roofs? Thanks

[@adamkerrigan8365]

Where did you get the shoes from? Can’t seem to find any with 24mm hole for the rod to enter

[@thegardenroomguru]

Bapps Bolts mate

[@adamkerrigan8365]

@@thegardenroomguru top man 👍🏻

[@colinbrunton9235]

Where are the rods and shoes from please?

[@Argyll1000]

what's the name of the green laser level?

[@kevinsaunders780]

Why do you need to remove the topsoil ? A lot of work.

[@Papa_George1]

Like, subscribe and follow without fluffing the lines getting better each time

[@simonosgerby97]

Minor observation but you carefully levelled all the top nuts then tightened them down with the spanner. Better not to move the top one and tighten the bottom one up

[@WhosPhotoTube]

Could postcrete be used instead of delivered ready mix, cost wise or just not strong to fix the bars?

[@thegardenroomguru]

It’s not strong enough mate

[@ernie_hudds]

whats the best way to dig out these holes - especially if you hit clay!

[@thegardenroomguru]

Video about to be uploaded, just finishing editing

[@ernie_hudds]

@@thegardenroomguru it's like you're reading my mind! - nice one mate.

[@sambuckland1987]

Where do you buy the rods and shoes from please Liam?

[@grandmasterlee]

Details are in the comments if you scroll down fella. Phone number, who to ask for all there.

[@edwardbroomhead4463]

DIY it with the rods instead of ground screws and take yourself on a holiday after to recover and would still work out cheaper lol

[@FFTuk]

I won’t tell the missus I’m doing this and spend the difference on some new tools I’ve had my eye on! Could you do this method with M12 threaded bar, nuts and 50mmx50mm square washer for a 1.8 x 2.4m shed?

[@FFTuk]

18:20 all kinds of banter going on 🤣

[@chrisohanlon69]

Careful with those tools man

[@castlegreyskullrecordings6592]

You looking for sparkies who can do joinery?

[@staceyismine]

Is davie the guy on other youtube videos running with a sthill saw to get it started🙈🤣 c'mon davie your letting the team down

[@hm07123]

How much does a 5 x3 cost in total including labour thx

[@lhfloors]

William in a downpour won’t that pool with water ?

[@thegardenroomguru]

Full garden is getting levelled out mate

[@vintagecrtgaming855]

where are you based?

[@gerry5084]

is there any reason why the rods are so long above the ground level ?

[@steveherbert2921]

They won’t be. Liam forgot his angle grinder.

[@aquissuk]

Once the wood frame is down, they will be cut back.

[@deanchapple1]

Volumetric cement lorry for a couple barrows? Why didn’t you just use a cement mixer? Or was there more than what it seemed?

[@jshah7724]

👍

[@jacko420oioi]

👍🇬🇧👍🇬🇧👍🇬🇧👍

[@Mike_5]

There are going to be years of arguments after with some people saying the fence is level and others the new building!!

[@jmom687]

Could this base be used for an garden room house extension ?

[@thoroughcleanservices8263]

I know what I would rather do save £2000 for the rest of the build

[@petecroxford3277]

🇬🇧🇬🇧✨✨🍺🍺

[@BB49.]

What I am gonna do, is stop saying what am I gonna do! Never do that, you should get some t shirts made up this is your catchphrase!

[@BB49.]

Mild for you but “tighten your nuts” is always a good one. Jen I notice is also getting very rude you are a bad influence!

[@andygreenaway6459]

Don’t like the way you speak 2cockey😂