How to Set Palm Tamper Depth | Breville Barista Express

[@LifestyleLab_]

Palm Tamper: geni.us/hLwubGd Tamping Mat: geni.us/MWsc Dosing Funnel: geni.us/6lghM (Affiliate Links)

[@ravi911uk]

The Sage machines use a 54mm Portafilter. This tamper is 53mm. Surely this will leave a 0.5mm non-tamped zone around the edge?

[@LifestyleLab_]

They are designed specifically for Breville baskets, this isn’t a worry. Just like how 58mm tampers are actually 58.4mm

[@MrSmith_]

You are the only one of copious espresso making videos I have watched to ever explain that if the puck comes into contact with the shower screen it will scorch the coffee. I never understood that to be a problem, but it totally makes sense why my coffee has been tasting burned. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. You've earned a sub from this video alone.

[@kdmac2025]

Thank You!!! My 1st shot pulled after following this method was SOO MUCH better than my usual shots! Tamping was one of my flawed variables... now as I "Dial In" my shot with Appropriate Grind Size, Preferred Flavor Ratio, and Time of Brew... I should get ONE HELL OF A NICE SHOT!!! Thanks!!

[@KTMSAS-Duc1200S]

I have never been quite satisfied with the coffee flavor from my 870xl. I do experiment a lot and it keeps getting better. I purchased the distributor like yours and finally all the hard work and testing has paid off. It appears I was not getting my tamping correct nor my distribution, as now I get perfect pulls every time and they taste fantastic! Thank you!

[@frankoverman9543]

I've got the distributor/tamping tool in my cart. As for the funnel, my son 3D printed me one a year or more ago. Works great!

[@larjkok1184]

Use the Razor trimming tool and hold it on the edge of the tamper. Adjust the tamper tool to match it perfectly.

[@jaquestraw1]

yep!

[@sidtp7307]

Exactly right

[@the_kingd0m]

That's too low. It removes way too much coffee and the depth is unnecessary low. Meaning that depending on the grind size you may not even be able to get 18g into the portafilter at that depth

[@alexcrews2426]

@@the_kingd0m I dont think it is too low, it actually makes a higher puck than the 7.5mm in this video

[@jacksos101]

I really don't understand the razor tool. If you use it after tamping its just going to damage the puck and cause channeling....

[@lgxiii]

Very well done! This is the only way to set a distribution tool to the minimum depth. Should you trust the dime rule for clearance, simply put a dime over the ground bed, lock in the portafilter, then set the distribution tool to dime imprint level. Bang, it’s done. Lastly, adjust the dose weight to reach this level. When done, adjust grind size for perfect extraction. Compensate weight of the dose by the roast level. Increase dose with light roast, decrease with dark roast. Success guaranteed! I have never change the depth of tool fore the last 3 years and probably never forever. No matter the brand of your machine, size of basket, batch of beans, follow this procedure and you will be in business.

[@garrettbernstein5991]

You may be amused that I found a use for the razor trimming tool - I used it as a template/guide for setting the depth of my puck tamper. I put the top of the razor on the top of the puck and adjusted until the razor edge came against the base of the puck. The depth came out to ~.75mm as well. I like your approach better, but had to share a use for that razor...

[@krehbein]

Cool! I've had this tamper for a couple years and never knew how to really adjust it. Didn't even know the top of it was meant to be used to smooth the espresso. Thanks

[@IKAPECOFFEE]

Hello friend, do you need a free tamper , i can send you one to try ,thanks

[@utube3182]

I finally bought a palm tamper/distributor. OMG what a difference it makes. Thanks for providing the info. Really makes it easy to get GREAT SHOT.

[@soul105]

Your video is relevant for any SBE/BBE user to this days, perfect tip. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@lancer876]

Hi my friend! If I buy this crema tamper... Shoud I still use a stirrer WDT technique? As I understand crema tamper distributes coffee ground too. Thanks for your answer and time. Regards from Mexico.

[@LifestyleLab_]

Yes, WDT is far more effective than a distributor. WDT + Tamp. No need to also distribute

[@beer_goggler]

Hi. Interesting video. I have a couple of issues here. First is the tamping weight and distance is directly related to the dose of coffee you use. Eg 16g v 18g will result in different tamped levels in the basket unrelated to shower screen. Second is that even different brands of coffee at a similar dose and grind tend to have a marginal difference so you’d need to recalibrate every new coffee. I just use distributer and adjust to gut feel and also to vary tamp amount to get longer shorter shot when the ideal grind setting is between settings.

[@LifestyleLab_]

I dial in MANY different coffees every month. As long as you are using a dose that is not too low (causing the tamper to not make contact), you will be able to dial in using grind size. A standard "ideal tamping pressure" of 25lbs or whatever it was has long been debunked as a myth. CONSISTENCY is what's important. But you are absolutely right, if your grinder is stepped and you can not precisely dial in using grind alone, slightly adjusting tamping pressure can help you dial in between grind settings. The same thing could also be done by varying dose while keeping tamping depth the same.

[@Ivanaet]

For me, I am too lazy to adjust. So i will adjust my coffee weights. For different beans, i will adjust my grind size.

[@LM-iq8pp]

God - unbelievably easy to do, and what a fantastic result! Just pulled a perfect shot (with a bit of doubt before - sorry!)

[@andyberry6994]

I think this neglects that the coffee will expand and I've found setting to this method the puck sticks to the shower head and issues ensue. I would take your tamp a little further to avoid this and it can even vary by coffee type as some expand more than others.

[@SecuredMinds]

Great video, thanks! I was wondering, is it not necessary to to calibrate the distributor side? In the video you seem to only calibrate the tamping side.

[@LifestyleLab_]

Distributor should be set right near the minimum to just re-distribute the grounds without much compression

[@ameliabuns4058]

I 3D printed one for like 0.5$ and I set mine too your depth and it works so well. I get much more consistent nicer coffee

[@douglasmaclean5836]

what 3D printer do you have ?

[@ameliabuns4058]

@@douglasmaclean5836 my own design based a little on the hevo. I call it the doot changer

[@itsm3th3b33]

The Breville came with a razor tool. Wouldn’t that be the correct depth (tamp until the razor doesn’t shave the puck)?

[@Narezaath]

the depth would change with dose though, so that might prove a slight issue

[@itsm3th3b33]

@@Narezaath And how's his method (in the video) immune to dose?

[@nikolaaspost5916]

@@itsm3th3b33 I'm wondering the same thing

[@Guapogiboy]

I bet the depth of the razor is also around 7.5 mm

[@itsm3th3b33]

@@Guapogiboy No doubt. But the trial and error method suggested in this video is a long cut way to get to that 7.5mm, do you agree?

[@nancyguzman8756]

Ugh! Thank you for this! I’ve been having a hard time with this tool. I couldn’t get either side right. But I’m going to try this!

[@grosbeakmc]

Thanks loads - they just came back in stock at Crema and we got the tamper and dosing ring for our Breville Barista Express. The combination works like a charm and the improvement in the consistency of my daily Americano is certainly noticeable.

[@LifestyleLab_]

Awesome!

[@gthomo1011]

Mine is on order. Always thought it looked to be a bit of a gimmick but it looks like I was wrong. Excited to get it now. Good video.

[@tristenjames8763]

Appreciate all the videos on the Breville! They've been abundantly helpful in helping me make better espresso. One question: how did you program the machine so the Filter Size button turns the grinder on and off? Thanks!

[@LifestyleLab_]

It will turn the grinder off, but not on, yours will do it too!

[@alexxyc]

I found the easiest way to check is to simply put the tamper on the portafilter coming with the machine after you finish prepping. As long as the line between the silver and black part of the tamper is aligned with the basket/you cant see the metal part, you are good.

[@fotomaniacs]

Thanks for making the video. I just got the distribution tool and wanna make sure I'm doing things correctly.

[@kitcraft9516]

This was very helpful even though I have a different tamper/distributor and machine. I have the bambino plus and a picked up a rebranded combo tamper and bottomless portafilter for 35$ and this video got me pretty close to where I needed to be on the first shot. I do have the stock Breville basket in so that might have been a help. Thanks.

[@u40fit33]

Thạnks for sharing Great tutorial. I’ve just bought the tamper. It helps a lot.

[@markusshoots]

I loved your video about the Tamping Pressure and that it doesn't matter much once 15lbs have been achieved. As this always is a huge variable, we followed your link and bought the palm tamper which is on its way now. Are you able to enlighten me how to set the depth for the palm tamper to achieve at least the 15lbs, better 20lbs so we have some wiggle room for different coffee types? Do I test it on a scale?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Pressure applies at the set palm tamper depth will solely depend on how full the basket is. You can try to measure on a scale, but make sure that you’re looking at the number when you’re still compressing the coffee, and not once you’ve already hit the tamper stopper

[@markusshoots]

@@LifestyleLab_ Thanks so much for your reply! I understand. I still feel the goal for the setting should be to reach at least the equivalent of 15lbs. But I'll wait until we got the tamper to try your method first.

[@LifestyleLab_]

Yes absolutely! No need to be exact, but make sure enough pressure is being applied. My above comment was just identifying the issue that some very low doses will NEVER be tamper hard enough with a palm tamper, so dosing properly is imperative

[@markusshoots]

@@LifestyleLab_ Just wanted to say thank you! The Palm Tamper has improved our coffee experience a lot! Now I'm trying to figure out how to increase the required pressure but remaining within the 25 to 30sec window. I tried finer grind and increasing dosage, but that didn't work so well both went way above the 3osec mark. Would harder tamping work? I'm woried risking my perfect tamp adjustment.

[@LifestyleLab_]

Once you’ve achieved a good even flow, stop paying attention to pressure and time, and just dial in to taste. You can’t taste numbers :)

[@chomp54321]

Excellent! This is exactly what I need. One question though: what is the dosage that you used? It appears that you have premeasured the beans. I have found the Barista Express is not very consistent with its dosage, varying up to more than half a gram. For adjusting the depth of the tamper side, I think the quicker way is to use the "Razor" tool that comes with the machine. It is set to the proper depth. Thanks for the video.

[@LifestyleLab_]

I'm using 17.5gr dosed directly into an empty hopper, then I grund until empty. That is the most accurate method I have found on this machine. The razor tool is useful, but measures a specific volume, not a specific weight, which leads to problems in determining brew ratio

[@christosbougiotas2511]

What about using too little pressure would that be an issue? Because using less or more coffee changes everything!

[@LifestyleLab_]

Need to dose the appropriate volume for you basket :) 18g may not be the correct dose for every coffee, depending on roast level and origin the densities can vary drastically! If you're undertamping, you need to increase dose or get a smaller basket

[@Jlui83]

When using the distribution side. I noticed a lot of coffee grounds gets stuck where the black and silver part meets. Any idea on how to remedy this? The distribution part is at the minimum setting so I can’t adjust it anymore

[@jcasetnl]

I had that problem with beans that were particularly oily, especially when grinding finer. The stuck grounds never amounted to more than .25 grams, though, and didn't seem to affect the shot.

[@balalalala13]

Great ! Thank you. Any thoughts on a Flair 58mm Flair basket

[@cdvax11]

This was very helpful. Thank you. Question. Would this require re-calibration with each batch of coffee since differences in beans and roast times will result in different volumes for the same dose weight?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Keep the depth setting the same, adjust your flow rate using grind size

[@slow_clumsy]

If the grind size steps are too big which is usually the case on a BBE you can make tiny adjustments so it tamps harder/softer or you can up/lower the dose of beans. It's all depends on what you're looking for and what tastes good to you and others

[@eyefeed5383]

How many grams of coffee is in this shot? 18 or 17? Thanks for your answer.

[@matthewwilson3078]

Did you ever get a reply for this question? It seems tamping down to the level he described would result in different puck densities depending on the amount of coffee. I have been using 18g and still getting too quick a shot - I have walked my grind setting all the way down to 2 and still too fast? -

[@bwoodbgood7353]

@@matthewwilson3078 hey Matt, I had this same problem with my breville smart grinder, I couldn’t get a fine enough grind at low settings. I opened up the grinder and took out the inner burr and made the grind size smaller, he has a video on this. I adjusted the internal burr to #2. Now my steps between grind sizes is less drastic of a change which helps dialing in shots. I grind on a setting between 15-10 now because less than that will start to choke my machine. I hope this helps!

[@padraicfallon362]

Hello. Quick question. I use fresh coffee everytime but my extraction time from the moment I press the button to get around 36g out is about 15 or 16 seconds. I put 18g of coffee in the grinder and I have the internal grinder also set to the minimum setting so i cant go any finer. Is that just the coffee or is there anything else going on? Thank you. 👍

[@itsm3th3b33]

That is way too fast of an extraction. Try: 1. Increase to 19g of coffee 2. Tamper harder 3. Check your grinder for defects - spread the ground coffee on a paper towel and check the consistency of the grind. If there are to many coarse bits your grinder may need servicing. Or buy a better grinder. 4. Try a different roast. Darker roasts should grind finer.

[@padraicfallon362]

@@itsm3th3b33 Thanks for your reply. I will try 19g. It's a fairly new machine so i would hope all is well with the grinder but i will check that also. 👍👍

[@deity..]

You can adjust the top plate of the grinder inside the burr grinder; default is at 6 and it’s a range from 1-10; where 1 is the finest setting.

[@lazatroncic]

Try using freshly roasted coffee. If it is too stale (older than couple of months), it becomes unusable.

[@padraicfallon362]

Thanks every one. I use very fresh coffee every time but still not getting a long enough extraction. I have the internal grinder set to its finest setting and still not slow enough.

[@m.4612]

Hello! You have been teaching so much since I've received this machine. I went ahead and set the tamper depth but when I lock in the portafilter, it doesn't show the dots of the shower screen, just the circle that's in the middle. I hope that makes sense! Do I still need to keep adjusting my tamper until the puck is completely flattened with no indentations of that circle in the shower screen? Thank you!

[@cuppabeans]

Great video! Any idea when this tamper will be back in stock?

[@NoobToobSteak1]

your videos are always very practical. Thanks a bunch

[@djmocok]

Will you ever need to change this again say if you change beans?

[@mekdev]

Thanks for the measurement! Appreciate the shared efficiency, subscribed!

[@vladsanin3761]

You made my life happier. Very helpful information.

[@tobymusson8413]

Is there a technique to removi g the back cover off, without causing damage?, yours seems to pull off, easily!

[@LifestyleLab_]

Shouldn’t be any special technique, just make sure you’re twisting the right way!

[@ycming]

would you use this same process for other coffee machine ? thanks

[@nomadsolos]

Again - * * * * * 5 star review from me. Such useful information.

[@SanDiego-nk7zo]

Thank you for the informative videos! Would you modify your process if using a puck screen? They are quite thin, but would you tamp any deeper?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Yes, you’ll need to leave more room as to not put any pressure on the group head when locking in the portafilter

[@rogeliorios13]

Very informative video . I just got my palm tamper I am about to use it.

[@amrazing33]

After doing this, I'd recommend adjusting the dose by increased the amount of coffee ground until the tamper cannot go all the way in this 7.5mm position. Why? Because if you don't maximise the dose but set a volume, you can have air pocket inside the puck

[@balalalala13]

Thank you. Dou you have a suggested depth for the bambino?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Same technique regardless of machine :)

[@justaprivateuser]

Hey Bought the sam thing just a different brand, wanted to ask does the ground coffee get stuck on the sides when using distribution?

[@artmercado1735]

thanks, I just notice i have a shower screen imprint and I have the same 2-in-1 leveler tamper

[@tonimathias-grumley6631]

Great video on things I do use. I have the same tamper and love it but always wondered how to get it right. Kinda eyeballing it to the built in tamper and dosing tool that comes with the unit, but find it inconsistent. So how much coffee are you using and what is your grind setting? Also, i see you dose first, then tamp. I have seen others do the opposite and was always confused :-)

[@tsnstt]

Can you please tell me what is the best distributor size I should use with my 58mm Portafilter? Thank you 😊

[@Milofchg]

Some of these distributor/tampers from Amazon have the depth levels printed/markings on the side of the flat end of the tamper itself.

[@ami.ability]

This video was very interesting. But I have a request 🤓 Can you tell me how deep the razor is? (This value is equal to 7.5 mm according to your suggestion). I'm a designer but I do not have access to a razor. (Although in another video of you I found out about razor problems). Thank you for your response 🙏🏽

[@tangofoxtrot40]

Hi will this setting work for the bambino plus also? Thank you in asvance

[@LifestyleLab_]

Yup!

[@noeramirez4975]

Hi, Lifestyle Lab , what about use the same deep than the razor tool?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Also an option :)

[@rob3332]

How many grams of coffee are you grinding into the portafiller? 18g?

[@LifestyleLab_]

The answer is, it depends on the coffee! Dose properly for your basket, see this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/hH3FkodoqMZ9raM

[@rob3332]

@@LifestyleLab_ ok cool thanks I'll check out the vid 👍

[@balalalala13]

Thank you I was using my distributor/leveller and I tightened it too rigidly. Now coffee is jammed in the threads and I can't unscrew it. Any suggestions?

[@JoeyVaracalli]

Have you ever tried using just the distributor in heard a few people try this with good results the folks over at whole latte love use just the jack leveler

[@LifestyleLab_]

The distributor side of this tool has the exact same functionality as the Jack leveler, so yes! Just like the Whole Latte Love folks I dont even tamp anymore. I simply set the distributor to the correct depth and spin until there is no resistance. Perfect, consistent results every time

[@JoeyVaracalli]

Lifestyle Lab are you still setting it at 7.5mm ruffly

[@LifestyleLab_]

Yup, I left it there the whole time I had the Barista express in my kitchen. Now I use the Appartamento day to day, and have used the same process shown here to set the depth for that distributor

[@JoeyVaracalli]

Lifestyle Lab that’s awesome my buddy has the apartmento it’s a beautiful machine.

[@JoeyVaracalli]

Lifestyle Lab that’s awesome my buddy has the apartmento it’s a beautiful machine.

[@cable729]

Thank you! I was wondering how I was going to judge "30lbs of pressure"!

[@amiraloves04]

Great content! This looks like a great tamper! Thanks!

[@AntonMayamsin]

Hi. What is the diameter of this tamper? 53mm?

[@LifestyleLab_]

53/54mm Made for Breville 54mm baskets

[@didarsehra9053]

excellent video. thank you, it worked like a charm😊

[@michaeljohnson_ok]

Curious. Is the supplied tamper not already set to match the portifilter and screen it comes with?

[@c0mbat15]

He didn't actually talk about the benefits of the palm tamper. It's very heavy and makes even tamping much easier than the cheap plastic one that comes with the Breville. Plus the Breville one doesn't allow you to be exact. The black part of this tamper doesn't go in to the basket so it means that his 7.5mm will not go any further.

[@LifestyleLab_]

Here's a good video talking about the differences: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqnQpHZ4hKeGq9k

[@gollabalaji]

Thank you for the videos. Very very helpful. Would the tamper height be the same for the single dose basket (7.5 mm)?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Yes, you want to maintain that same gap from the shower screen. You will just need to find what dose works for your coffee in the single basket

[@gollabalaji]

@@LifestyleLab_ Thank you so much for the speedy reply. Makes sense.

[@PiusNyamora]

Thanks for the great video. Can this work for Breville Barista Pro?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Yup! Exact same portafilter

[@eocs5285]

@lifestylelab_ I just bought my matow dual head and I cannot unscrew or adjust the tamper side. Is that a product defect. I can see you were able to adjust yours. Mine won’t budge. Is this a dud!? 🥴

[@LifestyleLab_]

Should definitely be able to unscrew. Make sure you’re holding the correct part steady while trying to turn

[@rahmatwijaya9975]

I use the Razor to calibrate the depth. For Tamper use the same depth or slightly deeper from the razor dan 2 mm less for distributor.

[@LifestyleLab_]

That's also a good use!

[@eosme]

have you noticed when using 18.5 or 19g dose, using this distribution tool, you'll end up pressing down on it since the shallowest setting still would be too high?

[@LifestyleLab_]

The 54mm Brevilles definitely max out at just over 18gr with most coffee roasts

[@eosme]

@@LifestyleLab_ but even at 18g, sometime i feel the disti end up pressing down on the grinds first before you an use it. otherwise, it'll just get messy

[@LifestyleLab_]

It wont impact the quality of your shot, I actually ONLY use the distributor side to do all the tamping. Just make sure you are rotating the distributor from the second it touches the grinds, and all the way as you press down as to avoid tamping in a star shape from the distributor blades (that would affect shot quality)

[@cdvax11]

A consistent accurate dose weight is very important. A half gram difference in dose weight which will change dose volume which will require a different the depth setting.

[@eosme]

cdvax11 well since I started using WDT method, 18g dose no longer had issues when putting the disti side down. Breville built in grinder had way too much clumps which caused my question in the first place. Now issue solved.

[@pokegaiyui]

I've experienced different variantions of dosing when it comes to the density of the coffee been. Sometimes its messes up the depth when you are used to a high dense bean then decided to switch to a low dense bean, which in turn takes up more volume, so I have to lower my dosing for lower dense beans. So looking for advice on this.

[@LifestyleLab_]

You can change your dose slightly like you're doing to adjust for these variations, but the main variable for dialing in should be grind size. If you are having trouble fitting 18gr in the basket, grind finer. If that results in too slow, or no flow, then reduce the dose.

[@joshfoster4678]

Following!! I have fresh beans from my local roastery, and was wondering what grind size you'd use for 18g dose

[@LifestyleLab_]

@@joshfoster4678 I have a whole video on dialing in! Going to be easier than me explaining in the comments :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmHKaaijpa6BfbM

[@pip5461]

@@joshfoster4678 Depends whether you are using a pressurised or non pressurised basket

[@joshfoster4678]

@@pip5461 using the double shot pressurised basket, I'm floating around 35/36 seconds for 18gram dose.. it's constant drip not a nice slow flow. Any help?

[@drewksidetour]

I ended up getting the matow palm tamper before watching this video. Do you think it will do well?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Yes! They're basically the exact same

[@drewksidetour]

Awesome, just got a Bambino Plus for sale at $399 and going to try this method you posted for palm tamper!

[@LifestyleLab_]

Good deal! Great machine for the price :)

[@fliptek23]

Would it be the same depth for a single shot basket?

[@timzlow]

Hi... does it mean the tamping depth is more important than the tamping pressure itself?

[@LifestyleLab_]

It means that CONSISTENCY is more important than tamping pressure, and that tamping depth is an important factor people often overlook

[@mauricehollands2425]

Why not use the depth of the razor, included with the machine, to set the depth of the distributor

[@johnathanl2663]

I think that tool only recently started shipping with the Breville Barista Express maybe like a year and a half ago

[@NetworkErrors]

I actually did measure my tamp side using the razor depth but you want the distributer side at minimum to leave enough room between the the grounds and the distributer end to get an even distribution if set too deep into the portafilter it will distribute the grounds in too tight leaving the grounds uneven within the puck causing an uneven extraction plus other than distributing and leveling the grounds the whole point of the depth on the razor is for the correct tamping depth and i believe it applies the same pressure as using 30lbs of pressure w a regular tamp.

[@dadamj]

@@johnathanl2663 bit longer than that, I've had mine since Sept 2017

[@barbarahanson7017]

Extremely helpful. Thank you.

[@hkkrr]

I can’t get the link to the dosing funnel to work. I mean, it works, but it takes me to a tamping mat. Can someone tell me which brand the one used in the video is? Thanks!

[@chinthiamtay9032]

Hi there I hope you can help me out here. I did exactly what you did in the video but I'm working with Barista Pro instead. With a full does of 18g, I realise that there's just too much coffee, I can't seem to be able to tamp the coffee further after adjusting the level of the tamper...

[@LifestyleLab_]

You're likely grinding too coarse. The finer you grind, the more beans you can fit in the portafilter. If you're choking the machine by grinding finer, then you will simply need to lower your dose for those beans. Different beans grinding differently

[@chinthiamtay9032]

thanks for the advice, I adjusted the grinder to a finer setting and it did work out well. Just one more question, once dialled in, what's the ballpark weigh of a double shot using the double shot button on the barista pro? Is there a range for it?

[@cynthiahowar6608]

I just bought this but the tamping side of mine doesn't appear to be adjustable. The distributor Side is. Is that possible on the newer models?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Both sides should be adjustable, might just be stuck

[@topjets5616]

I watched a video from Aju's Cafe and I think he has the best way , you just adjust tamp till the razor tool no longer scraped coffee :)

[@fluffycritter]

It's good to have this technique around for folks who lost the razor tool or who have a different espresso machine which didn't come with one.

[@pmich]

Brilliant.... Going to check mine to ensure its correct

[@MarkMphonoman]

Thanks, this was EXTREMELY helpful. 👍

[@mycinemax2653]

so the tamping force are not needed?

[@bennybennyson1079]

Easiest way to do this is just measure it next to the Razor tool you will get exact depth u need

[@fashionwoman2010]

Will this apply for the pro model as well?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Yes absolutely

[@scut92]

I've been looking to get this tamper/distribution tool on Amazon for a few days but it's been sold out (for UK customers atleat). Does anyone know where else you can pick one up?

[@LifestyleLab_]

I know the distributor. He's dealing with some supply issues due to global events. They will be back in stock within the next couple weeks

[@burnsbits5829]

I've been looking for some time now but it's not been available. I'll keep checking back I guess 😉

[@a_b897]

Very glad to hear it’ll be back in stock soon!

[@LifestyleLab_]

It's now back in stock in Canada and the US. UK might be a little while longer apparently...

[@burnsbits5829]

@@LifestyleLab_ thanks for the update. I've looked at cost, and really with post and exchange rate I might just order from US 👍

[@benlin4838]

Does the tamper work for Rocket Appartamento portafilter (58mm instead of 54)?

[@LifestyleLab_]

No, in my rocket Appartamento review video I do link to a 58mm distributor though :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJy7dmuwqJKWepo

[@iGarni]

If you increase the tamper does the distributor decrease or they are two separated parts?

[@LifestyleLab_]

They are two separate parts

[@iGarni]

@@LifestyleLab_ Thanks

[@daijoubu4529]

I measured the Razor with a caliper/vernier and it seems to be around 6.6mm so I've set the tamp to the same height

[@calvintran8691]

you can confirm your method by checking the depth sets by the Breville razor dose trimming tool

[@dooferme3852]

I have just measured mine and it is 7mm and not 7.5 mm....

[@MyHam-os4bq]

This helped so much. Thank you.

[@micah9261]

I just bought this on amazon. What bit on the tamper do you twist?

[@larjkok1184]

I hope you’re joking.

[@samuelleask1132]

Thanks for the video! Very helpful

[@kakejelly]

Would the tamping depth (7.5mm setting) be used for both the single and double shot porta filters?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Yes!

[@kakejelly]

@@LifestyleLab_ amazing, thanks for the speedy reply!

[@dpwild328]

I thought one of your videos on tamp pressure suggested you get at least 20 lbs of pressure?? With this method you may be getting less.?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Not if you are dosing correctly for your basket size :) But yes, this is definitely something to be careful of when using a puck tamper

[@andreiakg]

Thank you this is very helpful!

[@zacharyproulx3306]

I'm having the issue of 1. When I press it against the shower screen some grinds stick to the screen. 2. Using a different bean, requires a different grind size, and requires a different adjustment on the palm tamper/distributor. - while trying to adjust my grind size with a scale weighed dose, fine or coarse, I have to adjust the tamper as it takes more or less space in the basket adding another variable. The screen method doesn't work for this as when I grind fine, it takes less space in the basket, and coarse, more space. 3. With the more or less space, any adjustment I made on the palm tamper now has to be changed. Am I doing something wrong? I'm having a very difficult time adjusting it and had better results using the regular tamper.

[@LifestyleLab_]

This is the downside of a palm tamper, it only works well when fully dosing the basket. However, simply adjust it to the point where you are still getting good compaction of the puck, or better, increase your dose so it fills the basket and doesn’t leave too much headroom

[@stephaniecarrasquillo3794]

What happens if you put the tamp and distributor to the max size?

[@LifestyleLab_]

You won't be able to tamp all the way down

[@ggivensjr]

Will the dosing funnel work with the Breville Smart Grinder using the Breville double spout portafilter and the hands-free portafilter holder?

[@LifestyleLab_]

No, unfortunately you'll need to rest in on the bottom, but it works just fine :)

[@MrDdibz]

I have the same machine and tamper, when I did my test. I still have the shower screen screw indent on the puck. (before brew) Is that okay? Should i tamp it even lower? thanks D.

[@LifestyleLab_]

Yes, you should tamp lower until you just barely no longer see the indent

[@MrDdibz]

@@LifestyleLab_ okay thanks, i thought it was just the shower screen. Didn't know the shower screw in the middle counts too as i read some saying the screw is okay to touch.

[@ggivensjr]

@@MrDdibz screw should never show. I don't think you have it screwed in all the way. Screw should be below depth of screen.

[@isisemkeb]

I have been waiting for this video for more than a year. Thank you, thank you, thank you 2M views.

[@Jazzcat1980Rip]

So with the Distributor set to minimum it’s function as almost nil. Would it not be better after the Tamper is dial in to adjust the Distributor to be more functional? Most of the European or American Distributors are more than $100. The Chinese are under $50 for comparison. Just to be clear your concept is dead on for the final product. Thanks good video, Kevin