How to set up a sump pump battery backup, it's easier than you think...

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In this episode: Backup power for your sump pump! You won't believe how easy it is to set one up!
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[@tranceplante]

Thanks for this 👍🏻

[@yuriykorenyak2351]

It is nice that you used your tower sump pump, it consumes way less than submergible pump. From teardown, it looks like this invertor is a quality one. I have a few questions: 1. is your invertor LCD always ON? 2. Any battery charge leak or necessity to do battery calibration if pump is not running for a long time and there is no power outage 3. Any invertor fan noise when on city grid?

[@dadstoysnthings]

Thank you for watching! I kept the pump since it's been working flawlessly, and there's no sense getting a new one. With this setup, I can get a new pump without the need to replace the backup system. To your questions. 1. Yes, the LCD is always on. Longevity wise, that might be a concern, but I have not found one with the same functionality at this price. 2. By leak, you may mean discharge? Yes, I do notice that the inverter is running to charge the battery once in a while, and we only had a few very short outages since I installed this. This is why I bought a LifePO4 battery. It has 10,000 cycles before reducing capacity. 3. No, I don't hear any noise other than the fan running.

[@yuriykorenyak2351]

@@dadstoysnthings Be careful, I just got Vevor 2500 inverter/charger. In my case: Inverter off - 0.013A, no load inverter on (idle) - 1.88A. It will kill 280AH battery in less than 6 days without doing any useful work. It is no go for me. Will try to do Inverter + charger + sump pump relay - in this combination battery could wait forever for life saving event without wasting any cycle or energy. Common, 20Wt in idle, it is insane. P.S. In your case you need to put a switch on LED - you don't need it all the time off.

[@dadstoysnthings]

@yuriykorenyak2351 Thank you, so far. The battery is working fine after 2 months. No faults detected yet. The LifePO4 battery I bought has its own BMS, so it's got a separate overcharge, overcurrent, and overdischarge protection. I'll put out another video after 6 months to show how the setup goes, if it's still going or if I'm seeing signs or experience actual failure.

[@Elzanto]

thank you, Im looking for something, I have two subpups but maybe I can use that with both as they don't always run at the same time. Is it still working? please let me know

[@dadstoysnthings]

Yes, it is working as intended, I do test it once a week, and that's just me being extra cautious.

[@walts9930]

Wonder if sine wave would be a better choice for more money. I have a third hp 6 amp pump and based on your videos, this seems to be the best bet to deal with the sump pump only In Toronto, it was not a fun month in July

[@dadstoysnthings]

I chose this as I found that most secondary backup pumps on a separate motor have a lower capacity than the primary. It may not be able to handle a higher volume as fast as the main pump. I'm not a plumber, so that's just my thought on the subject. At the same time, my tower pump, although old, is very reliable. If I have to replace it, I can plug the new one in the same backup power. And yes, that torrential is something I do worry about.

[@terryladd4217]

I used the link you provided for the LiFePo4 battery. I am a little confused that the Product Description (not the title) says that this battery is a lead acid battery rather than a LiFePo4 battery. Am I missing something? Please advise. Thank you.

[@dadstoysnthings]

Yes, that would be confusing indeed. I saw that as well, I went with the actual picture shown and what's mentioned in the detailed description. You can also contact the vendor first before placing an order to be sure.

[@sanjub23]

Hi does lithium battery pose fire risk specially if exposed to water? why didnt you go with the vevor gel battery

[@dadstoysnthings]

From what I know and I'm not an expert on this so I'll ask you to conduct your own research, LifePO4 is incombustible, meaning you can short circuit it or expose it to high temp and it won't catch fire. It also does not require any maintenance. Again, I'm not an expert on these batteries, so always consult the manufacturers' manual for safe handling or safety precautions.

[@bgrumble]

So the battery gets charged by the grid via the inverter?

[@dadstoysnthings]

That's correct.

[@juliendupont433]

Do we need a transfer switch with it ?

[@dadstoysnthings]

That's the beauty of this solution, you don't need anything else other than the inverter and the battery. The inverter will automatically switch to battery when it loses power from the outlet. When the power comes back, it will automatically use the grid power and charge the battery. Set and forget.

[@yuriykorenyak2351]

Could you kindly share the “no-load current” (idle current) value for the VEVOR 2000W sump pump battery backup system? This current occurs when the inverter is active, but no load is connected, and the device is unplugged from the power line. To measure it, follow these steps: 1.Disconnect the red cable. 2.Utilize a 10A ammeter to measure the current. 3.Ensure that the current remains below 2A for safe operation I contacted manufacture and they assure me Idle current should be between 0.5A and 1A.

[@dadstoysnthings]

Hey, I'm not ignoring you, I haven't received my clamp meter yet, the old one broke. I'll share the data once I got the new one.

[@dadstoysnthings]

Got my meter! It's measuring between .87-.92.

[@yuriykorenyak2351]

@@dadstoysnthings Outstanding values. If you will disconnect display motherboard, you probably will get 0.5A less. Thank you very much Sir. Great channel.

[@dadstoysnthings]

Thank you for your support as well! I wish there's a switch to turn it off, but I guess the more feature it has, the higher the cost. So far, I'm still happy with its performance for the price I spent.

[@stevedionne2252]

Hi can it be used with lead battery or just lithium🧐

[@dadstoysnthings]

As far as I know, yes. But I recommend deep cycle if you have one. If you're buying, I highly recommend LifePO4.

[@shawnmccarthy1811]

Do uou in verter always say working have the same one and always says working not charging

[@dadstoysnthings]

Must be a defective unit. Try to return it.

[@thenewhottimes3117]

Is that just a regular car battery?

[@dadstoysnthings]

No, this is a LifeP04 RV or marine battery. I could have used a regular deep cycle battery, but this one will last 10,000 charging cycles.