How To Set Up FARMING & Manage SPOILAGE On Gleba | 14 | Factorio SPACE AGE

[@Nilaus]

OMG FIX THE DAMN SPLITTER! ARGH... It is fixed in the blueprints and next episode ;)

[@sunRay04]

Hey, I think you should fix the splitter

[@MarcoPolo1990]

that splitter hurts :D

[@JarPlace]

would be cool if the splitter was fixed

[@toneandersen2944]

I was just about to say. FIX IT :D

[@philippeperrault8400]

The nutrients can't get above 50 on the belt because the splitter was working against you :D

[@probag8414]

It's always refreshing when instead of a youtuber telling you you're PLAYING THE GAME WRONG, they tell you the reason they did something was because it's cool :)

[@MichaelFlambe]

Love Gleba, favourite planet so far, I started it the other day, and have finally conquered it after several base redesigns. Definitely a change in mindset needed, its only about throughput, and designs should never make spoilage. This is especially important because if your making spoilage, it means your freshness is low, and low freshness propagates from ingredients to their products (fruit mask from an old fruit is old fruit mash and worthless) Ironically, the problem ingredients are bioflux and nutrients, (and to a lesser extent iron/copper) because they can't be burnt. My advice to all is he following rules: a) Always harvest fruit, always process fruit, burn all extra processed fruit. (getting the infinite seeds is more useful, for landfill and infinite trees - and if you have infinite resources, your not wasting anything by burning it. Those tree planters easily keep up with demand, with each seed making x50, plus infinite power from burnt fruit) b) Only use bioflux, as a way to generate nutrients, bioflux stores well, and creates a lot of nutrients. I found a bus-like base with bioflux going both directions in a loop works best. The bus ends with furnaces, but the flux needs to go around and around until it spoils before being filtered and burned. c) Always turn all excess nutrients into infinite pentapod eggs, burn the eggs. (Later you just pick up the excess for science) Your pentapod setup should be near the burners, at the end of the bus, You can extend it by adding more flux and making more nutrients, it will easily remove all your excess nutrients and turn it into useful science. You're going to want to use nutrients primarily for this anyway, so just let the eggs burn until you need them) Following these rules you don't make much/any spoilage at all, as there is not enough time between creation and burning, and its easy to tack on other production into the process. You don't care about wastage because its infinite anyway, you don't care about using excess power because that's infinite now too. Bring recyclers from Fulgora to turn smelted copper and iron into nothing (or have large enough buffers, but would recommend recyclers) to have the infinite iron and copper, such that you never back up and kill your iron/copper bacteria. Gleba is best planet.

[@FArkhanor]

Thanks for the tips, will try !

[@givani30]

I have not yet redesigned mine but it keeps haunting me... everytime I check something else is broken on gleba lol

[@sdfPZXC]

Me love Gleba

[@maxvanhooren8606]

would your reccomend getting tubro/green belts first? So stuff moving around costs the least possible time? So going to vulcanus first. And I guess also fulgara for the recyclers?

[@MichaelFlambe]

@@maxvanhooren8606 belt speed certainly helps throughout, and would help, I have a perfectly functional setup with blue though. I suspect red would work well enough for getting enough science for the first few researches

[@zachariahkindle8926]

"Do you see the problem?" Brother there are 50 thousand moving robots on your screen, im surprised you can see the problem and youre the expert

[@kingcrimson1631]

Gleba is an amazing planet and very interesting design challenge. My first small build was fully belt based and was a spaghetti monstrosity but it worked (for one science machine). The second attempt was no belts modular block and fully bot based. This was super effective and efficient for dealing with spoilage. I thought using only bots might make it boring and easy but it still turned out be a challenge due to the spoilage mechanic.

[@DaReal_Magic]

i stared on gleba yesterday and made a belt based base. its a spaghetti monstrosity but it works so far. i guess i will bring in bots today and turn it into bot based wich should make it much more easier and effective

[@JB-kx9bx]

I’m glad Factorio has put this stuff in. I work at an Amazon robotics warehouse and we deal with damaged and spoiled products which causes a lot of problems we have to deal with.

[@Misimpa]

A hard planet, for me. Wrong first choice

[@drunkengibberish1143]

But if you are good at the challenge, you are rewarded with a huge amount of powerful research. So I think it is fine as is, an unconventional but rewarding planet.

[@mistercrude946]

Theres a mod that lets you start on every planet, and when I tried to start on this one.... yah it was tough getting enough fual for steam bpilers

[@garretthayden6355]

I think once I get past the learning curve, it’s a pretty cool planet. I actually really like the atmosphere of Gleba. I feel like a mad scientist trying to bend nature to my will. It’s pretty cool. But it definitely challenges you as a factory engineer.

[@Misimpa]

@@garretthayden6355 yes but as first planet it very painful. When you don’t know anything about planet mechanics

[@warwicksulista8320]

This planet legit gave me a panic attack. Im just gonna get the science with editor mode

[@acoolnameemm]

For Gleba Im really feeling like its very hard to get started, at least for me, but I also feel like once I get a hang of it and understand it that it'll be much easier. Problem being: I need to get started in order to get a hang of it. But I need to get a hang of it to get started. Hence why Im here. Edit: 11:39 is so so so so so nice. I couldnt figure out where things needed to go before it all spoilt. If that is Gleba, I will be coming back to this point in the video A LOT.

[@nahblue]

Really enjoying watching this *after* I solved gleba myself. In a very different way of course, no nutrition with bots ever for me.

[@manih5393]

you also need a spoilage chest at the initial inputs. those fruits can spoil on the belt and the moment some is collecting on the belt production slows down thus more spoil until everything gets clogged...(look at your yamako line)(if inserters input the spoilage and output it on other side ignore this), you can probably have your towers read the belt amount and only harvest trees when it dips below a certain amount, that way everything gets harvested just in time as it doesnt spoil while on the trees. As you said the seeds arent naturally positive for the most part so having huge parts of the inputs spoil can lead to the whole circle dying. (Note I only landed on Gleba yesterday but thats what I have noticed so far)

[@leftybdm]

You can mark requester dhests as "Trash Unrequested" and that will ditch the spoilage, if that's what you mean

[@zogthehog]

I have been watching your videos since starting Factorio in 2021, this time around I have a much better running base, but this episode made me subscribe to Patreon.... the Gleba blueprints are a life saver

[@maxs4553]

Your designes are always so neat, love them.

[@lolkeksik-k9t]

Its glebing time again!

[@Rioku1]

@Nilaus, Long time fan! First-time Commenter! ;) Why do you use storage chests VS Passive provider chests?

[@drsupergood8978]

Apparently the turret trick shown at between 1 and 2 minutes existed in 1.1 and earlier. It was not obtainable in game (thanks for showing how to do it in 2.0) but could be performed by modifying the JSON blueprint data in a text editor and importing it. The blueprint data that handled modules could be used to insert items into all kinds of things such as fuel, ammo, items, e.t.c. It just did not see wide spread use as by the time you unlocked construction robots to take advantage of it in base, turret drops usually lost their effectiveness and instead you used tanks or other methods of clearing nests. In 2.0 it has a lot of use and can even be used to trivialise your first small demolisher kills.

[@drsupergood8978]

At 32 minutes. The bio chambers do not use electricity and instead use the "yum" fuel of the nutrients. Between the productivity and the speed modules, the chambers burnt more yum of nutrients than they were producing. For this reason productivity modules are likely not as good as they first seem in this use case and need a lot of high quality high tier efficiency modules and beacons to cancel out the yum power increase. Otherwise you will need a very high throughput of nutrients. This is a 1.1 mechanic that modded players encountered as entitles like the angel's blast furnaces required burnable fuel and could have modules inserted. Increasing the power usage would increase the rate fuel is burnt while efficiency does the opposite. The same logic applies to stone and steel furnaces in the base game but they do not have ways to alter their efficiency (no module slots, not affected by beacons).

[@Nilaus]

They use "yummy value" and that is affected by beacons just like electricity

[@xColdstormx]

I also experienced this today. Efficiency seems very strong on Gleba, while productivity made the nutrient burn cost unsustainable. Are there any builds on Gleba that should get productivity modules?

[@nguyendi92]

@@xColdstormx I guess just jam all of them into iron and copper production

[@AbsoluteHuman]

I don't agree at all? Of course the example in the video doesn't count because it's not a real production recipe and just a way to kickstart production or get rid of some spoilage, but in all other recipes I tend to use productivity... I need to see some math but from the looks of it nutrients are very cheap and actual production increase covers the losses. Like pentapod eggs require 40 nutrients to make and they hardly burn more than ten per one cycle, so it's a net positive for sure.

[@nguyendi92]

@@AbsoluteHuman Nah, I tried with other modules, the rate Nutrient burn is too high. It's a problem to actually Supply the machine with that high amount of nutrient, the bots cant handle it, even turbo belt would deplete a full belt in just a few machine

[@jmb47kkamikaze80]

I legit raged quite my first run in space ages as restarting got me a little titled 😂😂😂 . Than figureing out every planet is gonna have a small restart feeling unless you melt you brain on nauvis . Obviously for veterans it's no problem but I'm no veteran and don't like copying blueprints unless I can tell myself "yeah I was not going to figure that out anytime soon so fine I'll copy it'. Sadly I came across a spaghetti logic system and I'm actually intrigued to just make a massive spaghetti factory with logic just to speed up the first stage of expansion and will fix everything later with robotics as I hate placing things by hand 😂.

[@hanslanda8960]

you should make these guide at gleba start and not when you already got it kickstarted

[@ShadowNinja42069]

thank you for this episode. its helping me get through gleba myself lol.

[@ginsengaddict]

You're feeding spoilage into one of your seed buckets!

[@chimmy_jim]

Yay spoilage! Great series, thanks!

[@ThaFuzzwood]

14:35 You came up with cityblocks, so suburbans is its evolution.

[@Onkelcuno]

Spoilage burns pretty much instantly in any machine that burns stuff. 200 spoilage vanish in a second in a steam engine.

[@giin97]

FARMING, in FACTORIO?! Be still, my beating heart 😂

[@richardhaughton9633]

Hey Nilaus, Could you make us a great NAUVIS start so we can start space age with a nice base that can be scaled in the future.

[@erikstahl2044]

He already has for his patreons!:)

[@memory_stick]

Yep, if you are no patreon you can stamp down his 1.1. base in a book blueprits, still 99% valid (need to update the hub with some copper where the recipes changed)

[@airfu3ion284]

17:50-17:60 my brain spoiled.

[@YasaYasamura]

i give up on trying to making belt on this planet, guess i'm going (almost) full robot on gleba

[@Nikowo1610]

Omg miku hiii hiiiii :3

[@YasaYasamura]

@@Nikowo1610 hhhhhiiiii

[@SteveMorris-c2r]

There has to be some use for spoilage other than throwing it away. You can use it in the burner towers right? So I wonder how effective it is as a fuel source?

[@submachinegun5737]

250kj, which is 1/8th of coal, but it’s used in a 250% efficiency burner tower so that’s probably decent for power especially since it’s getting rid of a waste product. Also the spoilage to nutrients recipe is probably pretty good since the spoiled value of the nutrients doesn’t affect the end product when the nutrients are used to fuel the bio chamber I think, so use spoilage nutrients to fuel bio chambers and other nutrient recipes to make stuff that requires nutrients

[@dan.21]

You also produce carbon from it, it is the only way to get it on Gleba

[@Oscar-yk6ww]

you use it for carbon which is used for coal synthesis which is how you make carbon fiber and also rockets on gleba without shipments

[@givani30]

You don't need coal for rockets on gleba, because there are alternate recipes for sulfur, plastic, rocket fuel and lubricant ​@@Oscar-yk6ww

[@ember3579]

You're gonna get an obscene amount of spoilage even with the most efficient setup possible. You should have no problems with finding use for them if you want.

[@TarisRedwing]

Man you had such a good map start all my growing spots where tiny, not near each other and waaaaay far from where I landed with huge walker bitters everywhere :/

[@greenfoxx1820]

Same issue here. I needed to import weaponary heavily to secure a base... Even more so cause the harvesting creates so much spores. First try my base got raided and i was like "yeah i got las.... ahh damm!" ... 3500 HP Pentapods that stomp walls are bad for your health. Atombombs.... help. Importing ressources i need and craft them locally xD.

[@cornbonzo7027]

With KZbin’s compression the turbo belts don’t look like they’re moving, only the little green arrows on them do

[@KomithEr]

I'm continuously stalling for nutrients with this

[@greenfoxx1820]

Use Spoilage to have a steady flow of low quality stuff. When you get bioflux, setup a bioflux nutrient one too. Set it to activate if you have less then x Nutrients. Now you got alot of Nutrient on a 2 hour timer, as Bioflux is stable for a while. I use spoilage to get something out of wasted stuff and bioflux for the main Nutrient needs.

[@KomithEr]

@@greenfoxx1820 yeah I put down 2 making from bioflux and that fixed all the issues

[@jaylast5550]

So I have been using assembling machines instead of biochambers if possible. My reasoning is that it does not require nutrients which I am always low on and instead uses electricity which I have a lot of. However, Nilaus also has a lot of electricity and uses biochambers anyway. Since I am not as good at this game as Nilaus, I'm just curious as to why someone would make this decision. Thoughts?

[@chainingsolid]

Biochambers have a 50% productivity, witch for the 2 recipes that generate seeds are almost required, to get a positive feed back loop. (It's 50 fruit gets you 1 seed on average with 0% prod)

[@MemphisMG86]

hi nilaus, i know it's probably not going to happen today or tomorrow. but maybe there are plans to revise a blueprint book and bring it up to 2.0 recipes? some templates are “broken” or not quite right from the recipes (even if only a few) maybe there are also new blueprints that have turned out to be effective in your current run

[@MirageGSM]

There is not going to be an update in the near future. The only recipies that are changed are the power towers (and the RCUs have to be removed).

[@AnthonyHarivel]

Gleba is another name for hell, right ?

[@Wilzekify]

Actually it just means „soil” in Polish, but seems like devs agree with your interpretation

[@AnthonyHarivel]

@Wilzekify New polish word for me unlocked. Thanks !

[@ember3579]

This method seems absurdly bot heavy. Why not do flow-through main bus style and have burners and compost bins at the end?

[@Liwet.]

Does your production tab tell you how much spoilage you produce?

[@scottbarbary5112]

I'm seeing so many KZbinrs saying you can't make sulphur on Vulcanus but you can. Do they mean it isn't infinite or that it's hard because it's not that hard, or do they not mean sulphur?

[@ShadoFXPerino]

My favorite part was when he said it's glebbin time and glebbed all over the place

[@warwicksulista8320]

I dont understand why the devs went so overboard with this planet. It feels like they saw how vulcanus and fulgora were to similar to nauvis and decided that we should pay for it

[@doro69]

for me this setup keeps grinding to a halt, there is just not enough nutrient produce there to keep nutrient flowing so it ends up shutting down

[@ramax7357]

just in time 😄

[@habaz7838]

Is it worth it to put buffer chests near the silos to hold each planet's major exports?

[@edgar9651]

I wonder how many people can keep up with you...

[@robertwilde3986]

What if your production backs up to the point the yamako fruits(not mash) spoil on the imput belt, shouldn't thete be a spoilage catch there as well

[@4hdh489]

The splitters that are supposed to take spoilage off the outer nutrient belt for the first 2 builds are set wrong and are filtering out the nutrients it looks like. Idk if he fixes it later in the vid yet. Guess ill remove this comment if he does fix it

[@MirageGSM]

He fixed it in the comments.

[@annihilator_ron7691]

Gleba is glebbing hard

[@benjpac5]

I tried your solution, but found it to be too fragile w/spoilage and belts. Someone said burn everything before it spoils? I think bots might be the most resilient way, but i could be wrong

[@maloo2brvo26]

Purchased the space age dlc and designing a space ship is incredibly confusing. I wish you had a low space orbit option so you’re not getting hammered with rocks while designing the space ship.

[@Marsbased-qc3dy]

If I remember correctly, in Nauvis orbit there is no damaging rocks, so you’re free to design space platforms there in peace. There’s little asteroid chunks, but they don’t do any damage to your platform.

[@Flippin_Tables_Like_Jesus]

Unless you have a bunch of rockets to launch everything you need at the same time, building spaceships anywhere but Nauvis orbit is untenable.

[@dehb1ue]

I turned excess spoilage into carbon and burned it in the heating tower.

[@КирилоХацько]

I suppose belt base in next 3 episodes

[@dragonplus12]

What means red, yellow and green tiles?

[@user-jr2ue9nu6y]

any idea how you get seeds on gleba

[@thomasbrynko8120]

How do you get the system to prioritize giving the nutrients first to the machines making the nutrients? I tried to copy this exactly, but found that the system would share the nutrients with the other pods and would quickly have the entire system shut down because the buildings making the nutrients, did not have any nutrients...

[@adrienmoreno1932]

Same issue -__-

[@MrKenHuang]

instead of putting nutrients into logistic box, put into outer belt, have a provider box monitoring outer bult, if greater than 50, grab it.

[@ojgaming2573]

How did he set the ammo amount for turret ghost? cant seem to get it to work

[@nicholasvoges2219]

I'd also love to do this. cant figure it out.

[@ojgaming2573]

​@nicholasvoges2219 I figured it out. You set the ammo value from going to map view and zooming in then selecting the ghost

[@nicholasvoges2219]

@@ojgaming2573 how do you set it to be anything other than a full stack? thats the piece i cant figure out.

[@ojgaming2573]

​@nicholasvoges2219 right click to put 1 item at a time I think. Otherwise just split the stack before hand. Sorry it's been about a week since I've played and can't remember off the top of my head

[@CandymanJones]

Silly question but are your blueprints set up to be on an X,Y grid? I was looking at your base in a book and wanted to make sure I was reading it right

[@CandymanJones]

Also kind of new to your series so please foirgive me if this is something already explained

[@memory_stick]

Yes, most of his blueprints are grid aligned (all of the base in a book are) The new ones are mostly on his substation grid, which is (since last fulgora episode) also grid and rail aligned, meaning rails wont overlap substations by 1 tile.

[@Liwet.]

23:18 Literally can't see his mouse because of how much is going on.

[@Liwet.]

33:35 The positioning of all your nutrient producers in the lower right kind of irks me. It needs to be moved over 1 tile so it feels more "balanced" to my eyes.

[@michi2966]

What can I do against this factorio addiction? 😭😭😭 I am grown business man 😭😭

[@Dragonlord7012]

Obligitory: Spoilage Loop

[@dwadaw567]

guys i have a huge porblem, i can not get enough spoilage to get this going, how do i farm that?

[@greenfoxx1820]

use Bioflux for nutrient after the loop gets going and ya get some.

[@dwadaw567]

@ thanks man

[@civicsix1460]

Ive been trying to find people to play factorio spance age with me can anyone help?

[@adrianmillard6598]

Well... I enjoyed the video but it made me decide that this planet isn't for me. The game has lost it's appeal. It's time for something different.

[@marklauridsen7892]

gleb

[@LelandHasGames]

So far, I hate this planet. It's too difficult. There's something about putting a time limit on your resources that just really irritates me. Even the research packs have an expiration date. I'm honestly at the point where I really don't want to play the game.

[@cameronbatten8624]

first :)

[@idiokrat]

Please, slow down your talking speed. To only talk as fast as you're able to think might help.

[@0ShadowArcher0]

OK... i watched the video.... i was on the planet ... and... well... i hate that planet with all my might. I will never ... ever visite that shitshow again. Frick that technologie.

[@SageThyme23]

stop rushing through this planet so quickly dude. its like you're actively trying to get off of the planet

[@janstoots1772]

You really need to explain better what the hell is going on, maybe it makes sense for you but it makes zero sense for me the viewer that havent played on gleba

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[@DeadAndAliveCat]

Holy fucking shit this planet is awful. Having to deal with this shit made me drop Space Age entirely.