How to Setup a Desk Subwoofer : FEAT- Edifier T5 _(Z Reviews)_

[@davidcai3600]

Hey thank you for this super helpful video. just watched it again after my T5 arrived with 1850db. Had some trouble hearing the subwoofer because i connected the two speakers to the source first. your method works because now I am connecting the T5 directly to the source making the bass much louder and better!!!!!!!

[@MichaelLargent]

For anyone finding this in 2022 or later, the r1700bts (note the s on the end) and the new Edifier models now have a sub out that when connected automatically adjusts the bookshelf's to work better with a sub (cuts the lowest end, balances the mids).

[@Patata0ke]

any bookshelf without sub preout have no prob with this T5 because the source will be connected first to the sub and then to the bookshelf.

[@V1ktorvaugn]

I just bought a pair thats bad ass

[@anandyahamdi]

@@V1ktorvaugn How's the sound quality combined with this T5?

[@V1ktorvaugn]

@@anandyahamdi i have yet to buy a sub just have the r1700s

[@davidcai3600]

just bought it on amazon coming with 1850db. heard that they have problems with the t5. dont know but I will see

[@spud1300]

This is such a handy video for someone like me who has no idea how to do this. Thank you so much.

[@TR4P_OUT]

What a cool wallpapper ❤

[@Folkishbeef]

I don't need this, but like every other video, you somehow make me want to buy everything. Great job Z.

[@greaskyy]

Hi, i have one question. I have R1855db and a T5 subwoofer, i conected the T5 from sub out port on the R1855db, they sound great but if i turn off the R1855db by remote (not on/off switch) the sub making loud thump noise, is it normal? If its not how to fix it? Thank u

[@MGrimm1226]

It was on Amazon for a moment, I bought one and now it's not on Amazon anymore. It's a good sub

[@griffter777]

Great review! Apologies for the dumb question. I own a Maratnz PM5005 which does not have a sub out. Will the subwoofer passthrough work if my set is: iPhone > Ifi zen dac > T5 > Marantz PM5005? Thank you in advance!

[@deanvm9158]

How will this sound with my R1280DB (one without Subwoofer) using a Y splitter? The Edifier website says it can be done. Thanks.

[@zeusgoddin-gaming]

If I just unplug the sub-woofer power cord, will the RCA pass-through still work? or Do we have to reach for the volume control everytime I don't want the sub-woofer?

[@shubhamrastogi8069]

I just brought this model during low frequency @ 35hz there is a rattling sound coming from the Hole i took my flashlight a see that there's some sort of foam making the Hiss SOund. Should i take it out? or do a replacement of product. let me know.

[@максиммаксименко-х8с]

Здравствуйте вы вытащили этот фильтр из сабвуфера?

[@ArunabhaBanerjee7156]

I have FiiO R7 and FiiO SP3. I would like to know will it work with my existing setup? FiiO R7 (RCA line-out) > Edifier T5 (RCA line-in) Edifier T5 (RCA line-out pass through > FiiO SP3 (AUX in)

[@CoajaCristiandance]

i dont understand. i can't connect directly to PC with 3.5mm jack?

[@zeeakhan4163]

Hi sir. Can we connect two T5 together? and will it make a big diff or one T5 in enough with Edifier 2850?

[@riezexeero7392]

Late to the party, but does this work with Edifier S1000w or S2000kMIII? thanks in advance

[@HoracioPz]

Hey Zeos, question, hope not get insulted for it by the rest of people commenting. Are 2.1 chinese amps worth it? For passive bookshelves like Neumis b5 and any pasive sub, I mean for a desktop use. I've seen these amps costing around $80, 50w per chanel, 100w sub channel, some even have bluetooth. Or the only way to go is get a powered sub and a normal 2.0 amp?

[@RockyLofeudo999]

Horacio Perez I’m using a Nobsound G3 2 Channel Bluetooth 5.0, with 2 RB42’s and its just great for a desk set up.

[@polvorin15764]

Based on this review today I decided to buy it. Here in CZ Europe it was on one eshop for sale for 114 dollars incl. shipping. I will pair it on my desk (tiny room as well) together with my pair of iLoud MTMs. Should be a pretty sick sound after the addition of some more bass under the desk. :)

[@DaveOGorman-h6i]

I have an SMSL AO300 all-in-one amp with a songle RCA subwoofer output. So do I connect single RCA from the SMSL to stereo RCA in on the Edifier?

[@ZReviews]

You can just use one of the inputs. If you find it too quiet a simple RCA splitter might help using both inputs on the edifier. Subs are mono by design anyway.

[@MGrimm1226]

I bought this and paired it with the R1700BT, and this sub puts in work.

[@turbo_wrath]

whats the best option to connect the edifier r1700bt without subout to a T5? to Personal Computer or laptop

[@mat_j]

what do you think of having two of those for a lower price of instead of Jamo C910 ?

[@ZReviews]

Ehh.. Two would help but usually you put them in different spots which means using them in a room and not a desk. So it is a hard sell

[@mat_j]

​@@ZReviews ok got it , thanks!

[@dangcao3370]

Does it work with Edifier R980T 4" Active Bookshelf Speakers ? I have a Dac amplifier

[@ruttabl1]

This is the perfect desk sub to pair with the neumi bs5, they look so similar with the dark wood grain

[@brugley1090]

My desk would not have enough space for a 8” sub but I bought a Fostex 5” 50 watt sub (PM-SUB-MINI-2). To help compliment my vans too T0’s. I used the sub out of the Vanatoos at 80hz and that was good but then I used a Mini Dsp 2x4 with both of them and put a curved high pass filter on the sub because it’s only a 5” driver at about 20hz. The sub does not produce low lows but it gets the job done

[@carewser]

Except that little Fostex is more expensive than the Edifier

[@brugley1090]

you missed the whole point that it wouldn't fit.

[@carewser]

@@brugley1090 my place is 170 sq/ft and I have 14 subwoofers of different sizes so unless your fostex subwoofer is in a tiny cubicle I find that hard to believe

[@brugley1090]

Its been a year since I've used it but at the time I didn't want a sub that reached extremely deep frequencies due to neighbors. since then I managed to fit a sunfire dual 8" sub on my desk, below my desk has a terrible phase issue so I'm forced to put it on top of my desk.

[@gourabasis]

Is this still good in 2022? Any better alternates? Going to buy in India. I have a Edifier r1700 bts.

[@gourabasis]

I bought this and i love it 😍

[@graceMASTER777]

@@gourabasis great to hear...i was planning on getting one to pair with a pair of JBL Stage A130 BS speakers driven by a SMSL A100 amp. Do you think it might fit well ? How does yours sound...is the bass boomy and just shaking the entire room all the time or is it real tight and slick while blending into the entire setup. Does it actually help getting that full range thick sound packed as one unit or does it rattle around. Basically just want to know if I can go ahead and pick one to be used in a 2.1 setup for a small to medium room while also being used for movies . What's your take .thanks in advance.

[@gourabasis]

@@graceMASTER777 sound isnt boomy when the sub is doing frequencies below 80hz above 110 it can. Its enough to shake the room. Or even be flat. No rattling or any funny business.

[@graceMASTER777]

@@gourabasis thanks for your input. Coz a lot of cheap subs sound all boomy and rattle around like crazy.Since you say it's a nice sounding one that means business,I'll have to take your word for it then.cheers mate

[@graceMASTER777]

Bro, what's the scene with the auto switch off feature. Does it cut off if there's a low music signal ( music being played at low level) ? Does it need only high volumes to start back again after it cuts off. Please explain in detail about this as you are the best person to ask. Many stupid reviews regarding this info are circulating around . Kindly give us the correct picture here. Thanks

[@Gajendraverma115]

how can i use this in edifier r1700 bt model, because i can’t see any subwoofer out there

[@TsunTzu]

7:43 - Yeah. Had to pause for a moment too.

[@N0va]

I chuckled

[@trooooyyyyy]

is ti ok to pair these with r1280dbs ill be using it for my tv in a small room

[@Nabalazs]

The timing of this video... I recently bought myself a Jamo S808. The 8 inch variant of that subwoofer you had in that jamo theater system video. The only reason I decided to get it is because the SA300 has a dedicated subwoofer output and I was like, SURE. Made life easy. I was kinda hoping this video will be a tutorial to setting up a subwoofer for the desk, instead of the actual subwoofer's review. But I guess its not any different from a living room setup. Sub crawl, volume, set it forget it. Also, the S803 + S808 + SA300 is such an amazing desk combo hoooly am I ever satisfied with it

[@TBonerism]

You and me too man. Snagged a SA300 with a pair of Neumi BS5s. And I just today bought a S 808. How does the S 808 sound for a sub on the SA300?

[@MrBenherrmann]

Something lacking in most of these subwoofer reviews, and in particular, from the T5 is this: 1. Alright, using the R1850's as an example - so they have a subwoofer output (a 3.5 MM output - sigh...). Now, when I connect the T5 to the R1850's via a 3.5 MM to dual male RCA cables, do the R1850's automatically know I have a subwoofer connected, and if so, at what point (if they do it at all) do they automatically choose a low frequency cutoff and at what frequency is chosen? 2. I ask this, because on the T5 I would not know what frequency to turn the dial to. Would I choose a frequency on the T5 of let's say 80 Hz, or do I (as some would suggest), just turn the frequency turnover know all the way to right to 150/160 HZ which somehow automatically syncs the subwoofer with the R1850's. And it would seem that this would be too high a turnover frequency? Am I making sense here. I guess what I'm trying to do is to tune and sync the T5 with the R1850's - is it done automatically, or do I have to set the frequency turnover dial on the rear of the T5 to a specific frequency? And will this just double the effort, meaning, if the R1850's are trying to push 45 Hz, will the subwoofer be doing the same thing, thus doubling the frequency and over-accentuating a particular frequency/instrument? I hope that I'm making some sense here as this is one area that has been driving me bonkers with regards to getting a definitive answer. Thanks... Ben

[@skintyfia]

Hi! Same question here. Same set up. I have the R1850DB speakers and the T5.

[@_BrettHamblin_]

I am literally no expert by any means, but my understanding is: (and please someone correct me on this if I am way out of the ball park) I'll use your R1850's as an example. I actually just returned my S880DB as there was just not enough low end for my liking (nor do they have a sub out) and I've just ordered the S350DB. The R1850's have a frequency response of 60Hz - 20KHz, these are the frequencies the speakers are going to primarily focus on. The T5 has a Freq response of 40Hz to 160Hz. Now my understanding is that you would configure the LPF on the Sub to max at just under 60Hz so it can produce everything below what the Speakers are not capable of so as not to bring in two frequencies simultaneously and distort the clean sound you're trying to achieve. The speakers will concentrate on what the sub can't do and the sub will concentrate on what the speakers can't do.

[@ducttaperulestheworl]

for your question 1 iirc the R1850 subwoofer is a direct out loop from your volume control. I could be wrong but that shouldn't affect your tuning since the lower speaker frequency will be blended by your initial sub tuning anyway. If you are worried about phase issues then you probably need a better sub with phase control. Question 2 When you setup your sub you are tuning into the "phantom" crossover point based on your ears. Subs are helping your speakers to achieve a wider range. If you are getting weird midbass peaks then you probably set your crossover too high. Alternatively you can always cut the bass off your R1850DB and let your sub do the work. I would like to say to trust your ears and ignore the numbers. Generally you twist the sub vol/lpf to blend into the fullrange, assuming your fullrange is doing fullrange. Just like what's told in the video. To set the bass level you like and then match the speaker volume or the other way round. So maybe set your speaker to the way you like then introduce the sub to blend into the background. There are times where speaker specs crossover is at say 60Hz but we always forget they don't do a sharp cut there. It's all in a slope and you blend the subwoofer slope to your fullrange. The speaker frequency range can be used as a guide but if you factor in your room acoustics then the frequency is totally off since you don't live in anechoic chamber. If you really want to be technical with numbers then using a phone app like spectoid or go all out with RTA mic with SMAART software to find your crossover point. But nothing beats a custom tuned speaker to match your ears since we are not building a clinical studio room here

[@edil157]

Can I use this with my Edifier S2000 Pro? Can you show me how?

[@sinswithin]

So would it be worth it going for this and a couple of decent passive speakers? Or would it be more worth going for the s350db? Or is there a slightly better 2.1 setup for around the same price range or a little more if you're willing to do the work?

[@trevorwalta5697]

I own the s350db, they're great, it's the same sub, and the bookshelf speakers paired with it are incredible for the money. It sound good outta the box, but tweeking the treble and bass dials to your liking definitely helps

[@MuhammadKharismawan]

It's 100 usd these days

[@drjuliotavares]

Does anyone knows if this would be a good match with a pair of edifiers S2000 MKIII? I use the S2000 in my living room tv for music/movies/games.

[@HABIBULLAHxZed]

Which subwoofer did you get? I have the same s2000mkiii and am looking for a sub.

[@sunnydawarkhan]

sir can we attach T5 or any other sub woofer with edifire 2750DB?

[@Jordiephotography]

is this compatible with mr4??

[@markevinlagsac3252]

yes. it's compatible to all speakers because of the RCA passthrough.

[@nikro7239]

Would it work if i used external sound card for controlling volume?

[@byCDMC]

it would

[@dennisbelamide5286]

Can I connect this T5 subwoofer to my presonus eris 4.5?

[@danielsowers4960]

I bought the s350db based solely on your review, use it in a 18x20 living room, 10' ceiling, I crank that fucker every chance I can keep my bass knob on +3 plenty of low end for me still haven't heard a chuff.

[@YANNProd94]

is it worth it ?

[@danielsowers4960]

@@YANNProd94 absolutely

[@THISLOVETHISHATE99]

im struggling to find a mono amp to replace mu kenwood km-209 150watt thats powering my 12 everywhere i look theres nothing ive been at this for more then a year my 12 can handle 900watts

[@zarifvice7026]

Which gaming headset has really good imaging with great soundstage!!!!!??(also headphones) for gaming!!!?

[@edwin_cho]

Hey.. hoping somebody can help me out.. I'm left with a pair of Bose jewel cube, hoping to purchase a Smsl Sa300 and this T5. I'm not an audiophile but does anyone think this setup works?

[@jeffmillar78]

I have edifier powered speakers going into my computer I don't have a DAC yet. There is line 2 on speakers so if I got a DAC I would run line out to computer line 2 to DAC and DAC to subwoofer line in would that be how I wire it and then set volume like you demonstrated. Is this correct if I wanted to add DAC and sub to my computer setup to get 2.1

[@marcosvictor4935]

Zeos, you need to experiment with mixer softwares, like Voicemeeter, Also, DSP softwares, like REW. Let us know what you think of them. I use Voicemeeter to control my speakers and sub, also have custom Corssover and a little bit of room correction in it. I've hooked it's gain control to the keyboard volume buttons and that's how I'm happy for cheap.

[@filippiasec]

Perfect timing, Zeos! Just looking how to extend my micro ilouds

[@j1nftw1n]

Paired mine with Cambridge audio x201 and it's eargasmic. Perfect baby subwoofer to pair with baby monitors 😁

[@filippiasec]

@@j1nftw1n Thanks! Iwas thinking about tannoy 2x8 inch. Does the cambridge have high pass filter for monitors (so ilouds wont play what sub plays)?

[@j1nftw1n]

@@filippiasec don't quote me on this but subs normally come with low pass filter so it doesn't play what the monitors are playing instead of the other way around. Looking at the back of the tannoy it has a low pass filter as does the x201.

[@filippiasec]

@@j1nftw1n Hry, Tannoy is the same. Some studio subwoofers, or emotiva s8 has the high pass filter, aonyou dont need say mini dsp or external crossover. Zeos talked about this in detail in emotiva s8 review (not in EU :( ), when pairimg with iloud mtm. Wanted to do the same with micro monitors, thus looking for such a sub.

[@filippiasec]

@@j1nftw1n There is some quite noise from the bass reflex if iloud monitors around 55 Hz

[@matthewseifert5244]

I have this subwoofer, and the chuff still happens no matter the position, unfortunately. I was using it as my desk sub, under desk. I actually got a replacement bc of the chuff, and it still happens with the replacement :(.

[@mich6425]

I don't have that issue with my S351DB

[@laptech3767]

I’ve got chuff with edifier bookshelf r1700bt . Why the fuck they chuff

[@stevesnodgrass7434]

I use t5 with rt 1850 with no issues

[@xayroMS]

@@stevesnodgrass7434 Worth? I was thinking about 1700bts + t5 or S351DB

[@OGKingfish]

@@xayroMS I've got the 1700bts and T5 as desk speakers running though a modi 3E (I know it's a meme tier setup but I'm broke af) and they work great. Gets super loud for desktop and the T5 fills out the low freq nicely. I do keep it right to the right of my desk and can feel it in my seat when it's cranked pretty high. The biggest drawback of this sub by a country mile is the fact that there is no frequency cutoff so the 1700bts speakers are still handling low(as low as they can at least) freqs as well as the sub rather than just letting the sub handle em. That said the speakers feel kinda thin in the bass department with out a sub so it's not a massive drawback. Definitely get a sub if you get the 1700bts. I have noticed that the sub seems slightly quieter? when run through my DAC rather than just straight off the speakers via my computer and I'm not entirely sure why. Perhaps it's just cause the source is just cleaned up. Otherwise, no chuff and my lpf is set around 50hz since that's about where the speakers cutoff is. Hope this helps. EDIT: Disregard what I said about quietness, I'm an absolute brainlet who had a desktop EQ running while comparing. It's absolutely fine.

[@j1nftw1n]

Using a Cambridge Audio x201 as my desktop sub. Small, discreet and packs a punch for it's size.

[@abudankmeme1477]

How connect them with R1280DBs with own sub out and with PC

[@orchestertan123]

what is your low pass filter settings? at what number is it set?

[@mrn234]

Depends on your speakers.

[@federicoalvarez1256]

Is there any other subwoofer with such a "direct pass-through" connection? Or is there any adapter to make this type of connection? I have an edifier s1000 and I would like to add a subwoofer to it.

[@xheveneleven9327]

sir can i pair this with my edifier s1000mkii?

[@allansh828]

I would stick to headphones until I can build my own house from ground up. Speakers are too complicated.

[@n.o.b.s.8458]

Sometimes the rabbithole can be a bit daunting. I setup my mom with bookswlves as a soundbar alternative and she loves them. Just do powered monitors until you feel like you really want more customisability.

[@anonymosphilos8912]

Even for open headphones I can recommend trying out a subwoofer :D (closed headphones sadly block the sound too much and it will feel weird because you can feel the deep bass, but can't hear it). Depending on the music it makes it much more engaging, but neighbors, roommates might be annoyed by it.

[@ragecandy]

You can just get powered monitors and be done, the vanatoos even come with usb input so no dac or amp needed

[@michaelwolfe2445]

Get a pair of Ai40s if you’re in an office, or bedroom. Good for the money. Very Attractive. Nice sound. Zeps has a review

[@allansh828]

Michael Wolfe that’s probably too cheap to be any good. I audited a KEF LSX pair, thought it could be my gateway drug into speakers. It sounded very disappointing. I would get something nicer or nothing.

[@rabbit3637]

hi, can this be use on Klipsch r-41pm?

[@markanthonypraico3099]

hi can any1 tell me the size of the port on the side of it?

[@Shipoopy86]

Hey Z so I couldn't help but notice you had to turn off your window AC unit because of how loud they are. I just bought myself a "Midea U" shaped Unit, They're SUPER quiet. if your still using window units at your new place you should Check them out. The loudest my AC unit gets is 45db.

[@iranash1797]

I bought the Klipsch 10inch sub for my desk and uhhh it was much bigger than I thought which is pretty funny now I am watching this video looking at how massive the sub is vs my speakers

[@ichewwie]

Z... do you know about the GSX300?

[@BassDad8]

Starting at about 5 minutes in: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!! I bought the Edifier r1700bts so hopefully I won’t have to do…. That.

[@kumargeorge4977]

I hv it. I luv it. Thx

[@ROLEXLOVER123]

This should complement a pair of edifier 2750db as they already have a connection labelled sub out.

[@assyafiqkamal5095]

@NOTREALLY HANKAARON hi, does it work ? you're connecting your r2000dbs on your front out and T5 on your sub out right?

[@assyafiqkamal5095]

@NOTREALLY HANKAARON great! I'm getting one of those. thanks

[@kentondavis4972]

Would like to see you test the 8” Outlaw Audio M8 subwoofer.

[@AFG_Esq.]

What happened to Dayton Sub-800s?

[@BayernMunchenFan11]

good afternoon Zeos

[@vincentjr.crisostomo8721]

Can i do this with an ifi zen dac?

[@soundhead18]

“LPF” means “Low Pass Filter”

[@jundaaaaaaaaaa]

he is zeos he knows

[@diuran1919]

who will recommend a not too big active subwoofer the size of this edifier with bass very fast and bass that will answer for more bass instruments .

[@j1nftw1n]

Cambridge audio minx x201, smaller and more refined than this big boy 👍

[@sureshkrishna2225]

Can we connect to receiver

[@froggybear4033]

Hey Z!! A gamer here. Was wondering if you are going to review the DROP + KOSS GMR-54X-ISO GAMING HEADSET? Thanks! Love the videos.

[@TylerStout]

I got a pair of the non-drop open back ones for my girlfriend and they were pretty good sounding only issue was the headband snapped in the middle because it's all plastic with no metal. Replaced with shp9500 which they sounded similar to.

[@filippiasec]

Regarding the patent - I guess you might buy a B&W like port and replace it.

[@audiosmackdown]

11 in stock at Amazon

[@carewser]

$130 for a sub that goes down to 38hz and puts out 70 watts RMS seems decent, i'm pretty sure my bigger heavier Edifier S730 sub doesn"t go any deeper

[@moriopl6176]

Get it: 1. Perfect for Iloud micro monitors 2. This fricking sub plays down to ..... 28 HZ (!!!!!!) 3. cheap like wtf bruh 4. can connect it to fking everything cuz of rca passthrough 5. ???? Fuze switcher???? cant figure what that does but when u flip it it can sound better. (depends on position of sub in ur room( 6. BABABOOYE

[@YANNProd94]

is it worth it ? T_T

[@declin_ro3823]

yes

[@JMNTN]

why not Dremel some pits in the port and see if it actually helps

[@justinbalko439]

Getting a Rythmik L12 for my desk soon :)

[@hvskyline1368]

I wanna get a rel😍

[@TheNotoriousGamer]

@@hvskyline1368 You don't want a REL. Get a Rythmik instead, save your money and enjoy its better performance.

[@albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797]

Pls review the jbl club one. It is a bluetooth anc headphone and it has graphene drivers and goes up to 40000hz

[@drewhour]

The one huge downside is the aggressive eco shutdown.

[@byCDMC]

easy fix, put more volume to it, and turn volume down on the sub

[@ElsweyrDiego]

what is eco shutdown?

[@lamecasuelas2]

What's the deal with the wallpaper?

[@abdomination]

You must be new.

[@lamecasuelas2]

@@abdomination i'm really not

[@hampussepe9487]

now I wanna know about Adams sub for the T5V's should be a perfect match according to Adam audio

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

The t10 or their professional range?

[@hampussepe9487]

En Joshi-Godrez t10, i would love to hear his opinion on the s3’s or something in the s line, also to hear it in person but i dont have the money for it maybe some day

[@TheNotoriousGamer]

@@hampussepe9487 Studio monitors are amazing! Studio subwoofers are absolute RIPOFFS! Do not waste your time with the Adam T10, or any other studio sub. Also matching a sub to be the same manufacturer as the speaker is completely meaningless. If you want a quality sub for a small to medium size room, go with a Rythmik L12 or an SVS SB1000/2000. These sealed subs will run circles in bass quality and being sealed they will go as low as your room will allow for. Overall you'll get deeper and tighter bass. Use a MiniDSP 2x4HD as your audio interface and perform room correction.

[@bobc455]

I need an “indicator” light

[@Geerladenlad]

What would 25 of those sound like? 🤔

[@freepress8451]

WTF we had synchronised yawning @6:21

[@projectorz7707]

if you want to get dizzy,then watch this

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

Why do you value everything in sound exept base preformance? Tone, timber, texture, detail, dymanics, speed, and volume all play an essential role into how well a base diver preformes, yet you seem to think (please tell me I'm wrong) the only job of a sub is to go wub wub. Its the exact same logic as saying the only thing a headphone is designed to do is to get loud. Ive heard quite a few, and to put it breif. Up to about $1000, smaller subs of the same cost are going to sound better, and in some cases, even extend lower than larger ones that only perpose was desinged for people that think base is supposed to be loud; blouted, unfrefined, one note, flabby, and all. You always get what you pay for, cheap subs are not designed by engineers, and trial and acoustic lab tested. Their designed to get loud and distort. Get a rel, adam, nubert, b&w, dynaudio (even svs and hsu) or any other manufacture doesn't just put in the cheapest chinese amp they can. This is a pretty salty rant I admit, but I dont get how you can appreciate the qulities of a $4000 speaker yet think base is just base. The driver being the same size has nothing to do with its preformance in any area including extention.

[@BrazenRain]

Small driver = big excursion = all of the above qualities negatively affected

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

@@BrazenRain If its deisgned poorly. Go and look at the kef 92. 11hz 9 inch woofers. One of the fastest and tighest subs on the market. Its all in the design.

[@TheNotoriousGamer]

​@@En_Joshi-Godrez You are right but also wrong. The limit of a quality sub is about $500, and goes up with regards to output capabilities. Just do not play into the cult of REL and the like. Out of all the companies you listed, only SVS and HSU have valid offerings. Everyone else you mentioned makes overpriced crap. Too many of these "Audiophile" companies make subs that are complete jokes. I say this because you have these companies charging $2000+ for extremely small subs with very small amplifiers. REL wants to charge $1000+ for a 10" sub, when a 12" Rythmik exists for $500. Output is a valid and important aspect of performance. Having output does not mean you have to curtail the quality of the bass you get. On the contrary, a larger sub with more output will result in A LOT less distortion than a smaller "more musical sub" playing at the same volume. Take my favorite bang for buck sub, a DIY Dayton Ultimax 18" sealed subwoofer. This sub can play at 120dB! But it also has lower amounts of distortion than a 12" JL Audio sub. I can guarantee it has less distortion than any REL sub. Not only does it play loud (louder than most ported/passive radiator subs) it plays extremely clean. And it is CHEAP as hell. It would take $10K in REL subs to match the output of one of these subs costing $700. These small sub companies are running scams on the public. The more excursion you get from a woofer, the more distortion you will get. It doesn't matter how much engineering goes into it. If you can see a woofer visibly vibrate back and forth you can bet your ass it is distorting. Smaller subs are also not as efficient as bigger subs. An 18" sub will get a lot louder than a 12" sub if fed the same amount of power. So big subs put less strain on their drivers and their amplifiers.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

This is one of the most embarrassing and baseless comments I've ever read. Pretty extraordinary how you can say so much with no meaning behind whst you said. Please get an education in the field your critiquing, before you do so.

[@BrazenRain]

@@En_Joshi-Godrez Much like an undersized woofer, your words have an increasing level of distortion the louder you speak. What are your credentials?

[@filippiasec]

Cant find these in EU at all.

[@roninesce8362]

@filippiasec Amazon Uk for example (not EU any longer) 😁. Try other Amazons

[@filippiasec]

@@roninesce8362 Got my Tannoy TS2.8, thanks ;)

[@marcior.2153]

I just bought one from a hardware store for 126.05 EUR.

[@lotechgreg]

OK, .... This vs Polk PSW10 @ $130...... ??????

[@Grimspoon]

That beeping in the background

[@Ditterfrantzen]

Unfortunately my brother your camera is shaking too much, really distracting & Annoying

[@Grandpa_Bangge]

Got a freakin' headache watching this...

[@evgeniytarasov71]

Ну вы и оператор. Смотреть невозможно, голова закружилась.

[@PATENTSANDDEEDSSECTIONLPDDDENR]

too shakey

[@Zastrutzki]

Oh look, an adult weeb! Thanks for the tips, though.

[@95PoundMole]

I can get a note from my doctor for watching 33% of this rambling pointless video. The flailing arms do remind me of Johnny Cakes' magic though. Oh how sweet that dirty mustache diner reidue was!

[@Omar-o2g7d]

Unfortunately, you keep shaking your camera of phone that really made me DIZZY

[@ihsann6070]

I was dizzy because the camera was running left and right

[@Omar-o2g7d]

I couldn't continue, this continous shaking movement is too much annoying

[@kiiwii3605]

Subwoofer is 💩💩

[@kevinhamlett1400]

Zeos you should not have to explain all that people on your channel should already know all this. Crossover frequency should be common knowledge also for your viewers.

[@abdomination]

So, he should just give up on expanding his channel and increasing subs then?

[@kiiwii3605]

this subwoofer is rubbish

[@mich6425]

Why?

[@mrn234]

@@mich6425 Cause it doesnt meet his standards... Its a budget sub not everybody can or wants to afford something for 300+ bucks

[@mich6425]

@@mrn234 I don't have issues with my S351DB set. It has the same type of woofer. Sounds awesome.