You can use it on Ninja V but you have to pay a $75 upgrade
@MarcosRochaTV9 ай бұрын
Ah I see, somehow I missed it on their website.
@_MurphyAlexander_9 ай бұрын
You have to pay to use EL Zone if you buy the new Ninja V?
@Kori_INJN9 ай бұрын
I was watching this on my TV and grabbed my laptop to point out it is on the Ninja V with the paid upgrade
@BootStrapTurnerVideography9 ай бұрын
@@_MurphyAlexander_ No, there are two new Ninja models that have AtomOS11 built-in, the Ninja and the Ninja Ultra. The Ninja V and V+ are legacy products that recently received the free base AtomOS11 upgrade, but require the purchase of the "OS11 Feature Pack" in order to receive the same features as the newer Ninja/Ninja Ultra respectively. The V+ or Ultra is necessary if you wish 6KP60 RAW or 8K/30P.
@ZacBarnesMusic9 ай бұрын
@@_MurphyAlexander_no, only if you own the old one. The new updated version come with it
@JoATTech9 ай бұрын
I got original Ninja V and I got EL-Zone ... but had to pay $79 to get this option ... it's paid update for Atomos OS11.
@JoATTech9 ай бұрын
Actually LUTs does not impact the EL-Zone output ... it's the same with and without LUT. The most important thing is to set proper color profile and gammut (as you showed up in this video).
@richardmetzker80273 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. Can you output the false color EL zone overlay to another monitor?
@MarcosRochaTV3 ай бұрын
I dont think so, only the image as is.
@willianaleman61149 ай бұрын
Thank you for the informative insight. I wish the EL Zone System could be implemented on the Atomos SUMO19, even via a paid firmware update.
@gereral1_jackofalltrades3 ай бұрын
Does Shinobi ii have this feature at default?
@Jae_MaV2 ай бұрын
It does now with the latest 11.2 update.
@gereral1_jackofalltrades2 ай бұрын
@@Jae_MaV yep updated it works perfect in clog c100 mkii. Rec 709 lut also works perfect with el zone and does not skew the measurements from log. Good job atomos. Want to see it in video I just did? Click on my logo and see the birds at my door video to see exposure. This was filmed in clog with el zone.
@mcneilbelle6 ай бұрын
can you do one on arri exposure
@-austinsmith4 ай бұрын
For Ninja V+ it's $200 to update to get EL Zone along with other features.
@_MurphyAlexander_9 ай бұрын
So false color and EL Zone both measure your expose with stops and use colors to show them on screen. What make EL Zone more useful or is it?
@MarcosRochaTV9 ай бұрын
EL Zone works in Stops so it is much more intuitive. Other false color systems use the IRE scale, not Stops. To learn more, you should check out Ed Lachman's website: www.elzonesystem.com/ - I've also done other videos on how to use the EL Zone system and setting exposure using SmallHD Monitors. The concept is the same if you check those out.
@_MurphyAlexander_9 ай бұрын
@@MarcosRochaTV appreciate that information.
@schmollywood8 ай бұрын
Hi, I wonder if EL Zone works properly with your camera. If you close the aperture EL Zone would show you the crushed dark parts in black. If you feed the Ninja with Sony S-Log3 / S-Gammut Log EL Zone is displayed completely out of whack meaning it doesn’t display the crushed dark parts as black but only goes to dark purple. It’s a bug I’ve noticed only yesterday and have already opened a support ticket with Atomos. People on some Atomos forums have confirmed this bug. As far as the signal coming from the RED goes I wonder if the Ninja shows EL zone correctly or has the same fault
@jxjm8 ай бұрын
@schmollywood Has Atomos solved this bug yet? I'm thinking of buying the OS11 Feature Pack for my Ninja V+ ...
@schmollywood8 ай бұрын
@@jxjm No it’s not yet fixed
@schmollywood7 ай бұрын
@bldgzr The EL zone on the Ninja will never reach black when feeding it S-Log 3 since it’s implemented wrong
@schmollywood7 ай бұрын
@bldgzr …even if you have absolutely no light hitting the sensor it will always only go to display purple due to wrong implementation by Atomos
@schmollywood7 ай бұрын
@bldgzr Not really, it’s an FX3 and connected to a SmallHD with EL zone it works flawlessly feeding the exact same signal. Other users noted this problem too. So I wonder if you feed S-Log3 / S-Gammut Cine or if you feed it a different Gamma
@smallbizdigitalmedia9 ай бұрын
I shoot in Sony S-cinetone picture profile not log. Do you have to shoot in log for EL Zones to work?
@MarcosRochaTV9 ай бұрын
Yes, you have to output RAW or Flat profiles
@Pete_Bennett-BWP8 ай бұрын
How does this work for other camera manufacturers as you mentioned, Marcos? - it really doesn’t. It’s purely for RED cameras 😢
@Franckystudios5 ай бұрын
It's sad that it is a paid feature on the Ninja V. I had to pay for SDI RAW and plus the back unit, now they are charging for an update to use a monitoring tool. At this point, I should just sell it and get the new one, after all of these paid features, it's more expensive than the new one or the 7''.