How to setup your OWN Router with Verizon FiOS & save Money $$$

[@KillerAndMX]

I'm an agent for Verizon Fios and this really helps me understand way better from the customer side

[@Chillingworth]

Thanks for actually trying to help. Verizon support is usually so bad, good on you for doing your job!

[@underseavision6771]

perhaps Verizon Fios would look into eliminating the need to use a Verizon Router (G1100 or 3100) to provision the STB's if you have TV service. I have not been able to remove the Verizon router (even with MoCA adapters) as the STB's will not function correctly.

[@AMPTechGrade]

@@underseavision6771 tough sell. They do a lot of cool thinks with their routers like doing speed tests on their side to troubleshoot a persons internet service. This special software also allows them to connect to the cable boxes with ease. I’m sure there’s an easier way of managing the boxes by allowing the box to talk to a server on the net but we’re opening up another can of worms, especially when people cancel cable in drones. I don’t work for Verizon, I just work in IT with an MBA & I know the whole infrastructure well

[@therightsphoenix1111]

Good evening Verizon... I was wondering if you could help me out here. That is so weird. I have had my internet connection inside yellow inserts not the white. Should it go into the white? Also, I want to connect a landline phone to the Verizon router do you know how I can do that? I looked into getting an adapter " Phone Line Over Ethernet Cable Adapter RJ45 Female to RJ11 Male " but I have no clue where to put it. Any help would be appreciated... Thank you...

[@michaelmarsala2930]

@@therightsphoenix1111 there is no need for this adapter. tell verizon you want to add home phone and they should install it for it. If not, trace that internet wire back to your ONT (basement or outside) and see if there already is a telephone jack linked somewhere in your houses jacks sometimes they already connect it

[@k4m1ageo41]

Hey, I don’t think you are annoying. THANK YOU for trying to help all of us!!!

[@godneneakadisconnected4679]

Hey there! I am an agent of Verizon fios. Now i can see how installation works. It is very helpful information i would said.

[@james8467]

I have a second Verizon G1100 router. How do I set it up as an extender? Step by step video and/or instructions for computer dummy would be greatly appreciated.

[@adventurer3645]

Thanks for this, very informative and helpful. I'm going to be switching to Verizon FIOS soon.

[@billhungerford5930]

Love your feisty attitude. Also, good info!

[@trinh318]

Great info. Thank you for taking your time to make this

[@brewdub]

Thanks for making this video. I was able to cancel my Eero order after watching! Going with extenders instead. Appreciate it!

[@AMPTechGrade]

Keep me updated & let me know how it works. I’ve never personally had the need to get one myself

[@brewdub]

@@AMPTechGrade wife talked me into skipping the extenders and just ordering the newest Verizon router. Hate dropping 300 on something like a router but we need the coverage.

[@johnfoster602]

I have a FiOS router for internet no tv like the one in your video. I was considering switching to eero pro, eero pro6, or Google mesh. Do you just plug the Ethernet cable from the FiOS router into the new router? Nothing else to set up? Which of the above router/ mesh systems would be best? We are having some issues with signal strength. Usually 1-2 bars

[@brewdub]

@@johnfoster602 I ended up just buying the latest Verizon router. It was $300 or more but it does cover all of my house which is what I was looking for.

[@MC-bw5fc]

Great video, thanks to you I made the plunge and got a new router. 🥳

[@atalx9332]

i'm trying to apply my Netgate SG-1100 security gateway. but since i do have internet/tv, how should i go about with this? i am wanting to segment my network to separate my IoT devices and my personal computer. i bought a NIGHTHAWK router to do this, however after watching your video, it seems that i am going to need my FIOS router.

[@zom7724]

Thanks I just got a ne router from Verizon and it don't work it just drops but im going to stick with my old router.

[@AnimeAlyssal1]

So you need a separate router with the ONT box? My new apartment had the ONT box already into the wall so I figured that's all I needed. What router would I need?

[@AMPTechGrade]

If you just pay for internet, any router will do from Bestbuy. If you pay for TV, you MUST have their router but you can buy the G1100 router from eBay to save money

[@kevineldracher9422]

Can you use this Router with a different service if by chance you bought it instead of renting?

[@AMPTechGrade]

Idk, you might but you won’t get router updates

[@rytangold]

Thanks for your own version of how to video. I like the part where you show where to connect Ethernet cable fr FiOS ONT black or white box to the router. I wish people should just be kinder to you as your intention is just to help everyone. I have still the FiOS Actiontec MI424WR which is only coaxial cable connected for my cable TV & Internet service, I have also Obihai connected to the modem . So , I have to run a cat.6 Ethernet(50' $8 Amz Basic) connection to ONT box to use my own router ( Nighthawk, TPLink 1750). Call Verizon to activate Ethernet connection. Then that should work, right?

[@AMPTechGrade]

That should do it yes. I haven’t personally had to do it but I heard this was the process

[@commaro17]

Thanks for the info

[@MunkieFeet]

How about using Google Nest WiFi? Wouldn't I need to release the DHCP lease from the Verizon Fios router before plugging in my Google Nest router or any other router for that matter? From there it should be as simple as plugging in the ethernet cable from the modem into the new router. I don't have Fios TV as it's a waste of money in my opinion plus, creates connectivity issues when trying to remove the verizon router. I understand they're trying to make money, but wish it was simpler ...

[@AMPTechGrade]

Nope should work no problem, no need to release dhcp. Worst case scenario you can reboot the ONT

[@therightsphoenix1111]

That is so weird. I have had my internet connection inside yellow inserts not the white. Should it go into the white? Also, I want to connect a landline phone to the Verizon router do you know how I can do that? I looked into getting an adapter " Phone Line Over Ethernet Cable Adapter RJ45 Female to RJ11 Male " but I have no clue where to put it. Any help would be appreciated...

[@AMPTechGrade]

Nope you cannot plug phone cables into the modem. The old Plain Old Telephone Service that Verizon provides are ONLY off of the telephone port on the ONT/modem. So you have no choice but to run phone cable to that ONT (inside or outside), relocate the ONT, or use some other phone service like Ooma which provides phone service thru the internet (hence the Ethernet port on the router)

[@elementduro6605]

back in the day we used to HAVE to buy routers cuz the ISP would only give us a modem. Since then i have just rented the routers from the cable company/verizon. what the benefit of getting my own router these days?

[@AMPTechGrade]

None. Unless you want to do VLANs with a Unifi router, the Verizon router is more than adequate. You can even buy the Verizon router on eBay and not pay a rental fee. But I put together this guide for anyone who likes to buy their router from BestBuy or has one lying around from switching from Comcast

[@ninjagfuel6600]

That box hurtin😭Stop drop in me

[@davidgeorge4784]

My fios router is just running off of the coax cable. Can I still use my own router without having a tech come out and install cables. My OMT box is in the garage.

[@AMPTechGrade]

You would have to put your own router in the garage or run your own Ethernet cable from the garage to wherever you want. Switching from coax to Ethernet (for your router) is as easy as a quick call to FiOS tech support. You could buy a simple long Ethernet cable from Amazon and run it along the baseboards & pick up cable staples/hammer clips at home depot but Verizon techs if they come out can do this no problem for you and quick if it’s too complex

[@nickdonovan1868]

Is the Wan cable different than a traditional Ethernet cable?

[@AMPTechGrade]

Nope, it’s all Ethernet.

[@georgebrodie9795]

Question how am I able to get internet when all I have is a cable running into the back of my router ? Thanks for any help

[@AMPTechGrade]

I’m confused by your question. Are you having internet issues or are you asking how to get your own router working?

[@georgebrodie9795]

@@AMPTechGrade I’m not very good when it comes to routers or WiFi or how anything works. I’m more of a kind of hope nothing goes wrong when I’m using it. I guess what I was trying to say was that I have a fios actiontec router and I was tired of renting it and was thinking of buying my own router but noticed that I only have a cable in the back there is. O Ethernet cable attached to it

[@thomasdevito543]

The ONT sends MOCA signals through the coax cable

[@thomasdevito543]

If u can your better off running an Ethernet cable from the ONT to the router, you will get better speeds

[@prodigalsun1069]

Thank you for the advice. I was so close to buying that eeros 6 mesh.. I'll try the range extender from Verizon themselves. Thank you!

[@AMPTechGrade]

Let me know how it goes, happy to help

[@TheOutlandishOpportunist]

I use the Orbi WiFi mesh with gig speed and I have absolutely no issues! 7500sqft and no problems! In the process of running Cat 6 wire to the Orbi satellites.

[@MrOTSLYPI]

I just switched to Frontier (SoCal) 1Gb but the WiFi sucks!!! What do you recommend?? I thought of getting a Mesh Wi-Fi System but not sure if it'll help my issues. Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance!!

[@AMPTechGrade]

It probably will, sorry I didn’t see this sooner. I heard frontier FiOS has shitty routers (they use different routers than Verizon) so you are better off with a different router.

[@jasonborrelli3633]

Why is TiVo better can you avoid the fios router?

[@AMPTechGrade]

EXACTLY, they DO NOT Depend on the Verizon Router at all, unlike the Verizon cable boxes. You can get them cheap on eBay as well

[@miguelrico4338]

Do you need to do anything else after you plug it in? Plugged it in as in this video but new router doesn't seem to get the internet signal

[@AMPTechGrade]

Trace the cable coming from Internet/WAN to the ONT. are all lights green on the ONT?

[@st2251a]

Hay thanks for your info big help

[@martnez2003]

Don't you have to disable the Fios network Wifi first? If you have only internet from Vz, you only need the ethernet cable from the ONT to the new router and unplug the coax cable. I am trying to figure out this out before buying my own router to get rid of the Vz 100mb old router.

[@AMPTechGrade]

Nope. If you are replacing the router entirely, then leave Verizon router unplugged and plug in new router and then connect every device in your home to the new router. But remember, this only works if you DO NOT Have TV service from Verizon

[@ericmarnell1629]

Thanks for the video, it got me thinking about my FIOS issues. I’ve had two techs come out and they were unable to resolve the issues. I have Verizon for both TV and internet. Added internet after dropping Cox. So I have a G1100 Fios router. From the ONT, have a Coax cable plugging into the G1100 and also an Ethernet cable. I have a cat5e patch cable going from one of the LAN ports on the G1100 to another router (Turris Omnia). In turn, I have a 24-port gigabit ethernet switch plugged in the Omnia. With everything plugged in, I don’t get anything coming up for OnDemand videos with FIOS. But when I unplug the cat5e patch cable from the back of the G1100, On Demand comes back, but then no internet. Thoughts on this? BTW, my wireless is horrific. If I literally stand right by the G1100, can’t connect phones to the wireless network.

[@AMPTechGrade]

Look at your connections. ONLY put ONE Ethernet cable going from routers LAN port to switch. And don’t have a network cable connecting from one port to another port on the same switch, that creates a network storm where nothing will work. Also what kind of phone are you using?

[@AMPTechGrade]

Also I forgot you’ve got 2 different routers. What features do you need from your router? Verizon routers are really good, try a Speedtest from your PC hardwired to the G1100.

[@MichaelRei99]

So before Fios you were fond of Cox?

[@nick-eh5gb]

My question is this. Can you use a netgear router for fios internet and it work and preform fine? I read something on what little i could find about it saying how they use fiber optic and rlly only them fios routers support it or something i might ne wrong someone lmk if youve tried this

[@AMPTechGrade]

It’ll work. As long as you are just paying for internet only, you can use any router you want. All the Verizon router does is help troubleshoot slow internet but honestly it don’t matter, netgear will work

[@nick-eh5gb]

@@AMPTechGrade yea cool im just gonna do that then cause all im getting in internet only anyway and them charging 15-20 a month to rent one is crazy i was just gonna pay 200 to buy theres if it came down to it

[@brandonaddison1037]

Can you plug a G1100 router directly to a 24 port managed switch?

[@AMPTechGrade]

Absolutely! I don’t think the Verizon router supports SNMP tho but not a deal breaker still. They are reliable & powerful enough for gigabit

[@LyeraTech2000]

will this work for Verizon LTE home internet service?

[@AMPTechGrade]

Probably not, the LTE service comes with a gateway (basically a router with built in LTE modem). If you really wanna use your own router, see if it has bridge mode. But honestly, I would just use Switches and Unifi APs with their router, keeps it simple

[@NightwingTheDread]

so if i wanted to connect a directional antenna with a coax cable to my Fios g1100, which adapter would I need for the modem side, a TNC male or a SMA male RP, it would help immensely thank you!

[@AMPTechGrade]

I’m confused. If this is an antenna to boost wifi signal like how some routers have external antennas, nope that’s not the intent and will not work. If this is an antenna to pick up over the air TV channels, I believe it will work without issues. You’ll just want to utilize a moca filter right before the coax goes to the TV antenna

[@NightwingTheDread]

@@AMPTechGrade ohhhh I understand, no its not for TV, I wanted to connect my external antenna to my Fios g1100 router, but I thought the routers that have external antenna ports, you could extend the signal with a wifi antenna, btw I really appreciated your response, thank you honestly!

[@amoghugupte]

So if I do this, I don't need the GT-1100 router? I connect the ONT directly to mesh? Thanks

[@AMPTechGrade]

As long as you don’t have TV service (or a TiVo if so), correct

[@amoghugupte]

@@AMPTechGrade Thanks

[@bumbofumbo]

does verizon charge for the ONT?

[@amoghugupte]

@@bumbofumbo Not sure about your area, but I don't see any charge, also Fios owns the ONT.

[@AMPTechGrade]

@@bumbofumbo nope free of charge. But it stays with the property when you move

[@rugfixr]

To connect YOUR router; forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Using-your-own-router-with-Verizon-FiOS/td-p/851632

[@Mac_Vicious]

Good video, but at about the 2:30 mark you lost me. If I hook up a NIGHTHAWK directly to the little black box outside with ethernet cable, I can completely bypass the fios router? ...I thought the FIOS router was a modem router and needed to be incorporated in order to have internet. thanks bro

[@AMPTechGrade]

Nope, that black box outside is the modem, sorry about that. As long as you don’t pay for FiOS TV service, you can use your own router inside no problem and not even have to rent the FiOS router at all

[@AMPTechGrade]

My bad again, at 2:30 I was tryna explain where you can find that modem because it can be hard to find in people’s homes, like it can even sit outside in one of those grey boxes.

[@gutwallst6645]

Verizon Fios does NOT use Modem's

[@MC-bw5fc]

Excellent video...

[@billywalendom]

3.25 they charge?

[@marzero116]

Dang bought the unit from FiOS for only $90. $300 is robbery!

[@AMPTechGrade]

It’s not for everyone, but for those who love their TV and have 400/500, it’s something worth buying. But actually, you don’t even need it with gigabit because the rental is included at no extra charge with gigabit

[@BigNick3468]

What about the modem? Do I need to buy one of those too?

[@lordraveni8148]

fios doesnt use modem

[@redman8767able]

@@lordraveni8148 Wait, so you can just buy a decent router, plug it in and it’ll work? I switched from Xfinity to Fios (currently renting the G3100 for $15/month)

[@lordraveni8148]

@@redman8767able as long its compatible with fios then yup

[@AMPTechGrade]

That ONT I showed is Verizon's fiber optic modem that they provide for you free of charge, that you cannot buy anywhere. You just buy whatever router you want and plug it into this box. Nice, right?

[@michaelplitt2135]

I only have coax coming into my condo from the outside. Don't think I can use this.

[@AMPTechGrade]

If you really want to use your own router, you’ll have to get Verizon (or a local AV company or electrician) to run Ethernet from the ONT outside to inside. Or you can buy the G1100 off of eBay to save money every month

[@mitchelle245]

if you get the Moca adapter you need to forward the port for the cable box to get updates.

[@AMPTechGrade]

Do you know what’s the port or selection of ports?

[@akendema1]

My verizon tv guide is not working on my 3rd party router it sucks....

[@AMPTechGrade]

Buy the Verizon router off of eBay

[@akendema1]

@@AMPTechGrade 👌

[@daillengineer]

$25 Actiontec MoCA adapter from amazon. connect to the coax that was connected to the Verizon router and ethernet to your network.

[@shxdxwknight]

So I just plug the ethernet cable into the white port the other end plug into my router, and afterwards just setup my router and then I'm good?

[@AMPTechGrade]

No. You unplug the cable from the “white” port on the Verizon router and then plug into YOUR router’s “internet” or “WAN” port and just set it up and you’re good

[@daillengineer]

You have to tell Verizon to activate the ethernet port on the ONT

[@lorddude123]

This seems unnecessarily complicated. You can just run it into the compatible modem router via the main cable

[@InSaiyan-Shinobi]

Can I connect my vpn to there router?

[@AMPTechGrade]

If you are trying to connect to your work VPN from your laptop with this router, then yes. If you are trying to get one of those whole home VPN services using this router, it won’t work, not that advanced.

[@sva7242]

your not annoying but really did not talk using your own router i can all the info you said a store tech what people is how to go in set it up. thank you

[@AMPTechGrade]

That’s the thing, we all have different routers. I can walk thru the setup but it’s different with every store bought router. & they are honestly easy to set up if you follow the instructions for the KZbin video of The router you bought. All I’m doing is explaining the caveats of what to be aware of when installing your one router on the FiOS network. Appreciate the feedback tho

[@skymiller530]

I WANT TO RING PEOPLE'S NECKS who simply say, "Just call Verizon up". What fantasy world are you people living in? This is 2022; NOBODY ever answers a phone. Besides that bro, none of this video made sense. I STILL don't know if I can use another router with the Verizon router. Nice try though. I admire anyone who trys.

[@AMPTechGrade]

Call during the day at like 2pm. If it’s beyond your help, that’s what they’re there for. Sorry tho, I tried to cover scenarios like if you have FiOS TV but yea, any router will work as long as there is no built in cable modem

[@sj9851]

Thanks for the info. Btw, It's illegal now to force customer to pay router/modem rental fees. You should update your description.

[@CBRYDR]

That's not accurate. It's illegal for companies to charge you for equipment that you own and want to use.

[@whatisthis601]

Thanks for the bs shill

[@AMPTechGrade]

The ONT (in this case modem) is provided free of charge and you can’t get your own. One less thing to worry aboug

[@ZohaibKhan-d2p]

to much yapping

[@AMPTechGrade]

You don’t want it to work? Be my guest. I remade this video 3 times to get to the point. But half the viewers here don’t even know how a router even works

[@imperialhorus3499]

I like your video but u annoying so I subscribe. No that not true just cause u said it. Continue making tech video with instructions guide by guide

[@AMPTechGrade]

I hear ya. This 1 was hard to make. Not tryna bore people but I wanna be as straightforward as I can. I’ll try better, thank you :)

[@kevinburrell3359]

your white boy slippers

[@deth2allbutmetal74]

All for a $99, fee for a tech to come out

[@AMPTechGrade]

I mean they’re paying for the Ethernet cable, gas, truck miles, union fees, etc by the hour lol. if you know what you’re doing, do it yourself, otherwise your better bet is to pay the fee

[@KillerAndMX]

Or get the IWMP for $15 a month

[@audiocalls2822]

If you complain about a $99 fee, you must be absolutely happy if minimum wage was $5 an hour

[@THEVOICEANARCHY]

YOU MAKE NO SENSE -

[@AMPTechGrade]

I jumbled thru a lot of things I’m sorry. I just want to make sure people don’t have issues or hiccups when setting up their own router on Verizon FiOS. What part are you confused with?

[@samuel_colson]

@@AMPTechGrade you're fine. I couldn't say for certain what a router was a couple days ago and after some research from various sources, I followed along quite well. Some of these people commenting on your videos expect you to address every little thing without putting any effort of their own into, uh, their OWN problems. Thanks for the video! It helped me prepare for my new router and apartment!

[@KingBaconMonger]

@@AMPTechGradeThere are people on KZbin who comment on how awful any video is and I can't tell if they even watched it. Like that's "their thing". Their hobby. It's what they do. Or maybe they're 9 years old. Can you imagine having someone in your family or a neighbor who was like that? If it's that bad, make your own video and see if anyone likes it.

[@leatherneck7476]

Please don’t use Gods name so disrespectfully.

[@NGC7000]

Too much talk for nothing