How to setup your Radio or DSP to feed an Epicenter

[@gackal1982]

according to audiocontrol the epicenter should be installed before anything else, this allows to properly analyze full spectrum harmonics and better, cleaner bass restoration after that you woould feed that signal into the dsp's sub input and tune from there

[@SiikPros]

He sets the DSP to give a full range signal without any crossovers to the output going to the Epicenter

[@david029014]

This what I want to b know before or after dsp???

[@lowlowsandclothes9923]

I’ve tried it and it gives the system a lot of noise

[@dannydennis318]

This is what I want to know too. The guy installed my epicenter after the DSP and I've been told that it should go before I'm thinking about changing it

[@KevinxDoll]

this is what ive been waiting for. cheers

[@jessedukelacrosse6470]

Finally someone who can explain, I called audio control and all they said was to set monoblock at full range... literally all they recommended

[@HifiVega]

Digging the short videos! I don’t wanna run an epicenter, but you make me want to lol.

[@jasongamet3056]

I like to have my epi at the front of the signal chain as an input option into the head unit, in front of all crossovers, you have to be careful of your gain set up as the epi can be set to overdrive the inputs, but this allows for the full effect of the epi circuitry to be applied and let the crossovers direct those effects through the speakers as best applied via crossovers. You can adjust crossovers in the head unit or along the chain to achieve a variety of effects. sometimes a narrow band of Epi effects is desired sometimes a wider range of effects sounds better. just my two cents, I prefer to have full range into the epi for sure with options to narrow the frequencies if desired. Thanks for the insights, good info.

[@SG-Cichlids]

An epicenter can't over drive your signal. It puts out what goes on. The jumpers in the epicenter limit voltage. If you have it on the 5 volt jumper it won't allow anything over 5 volts out. This is done for safety for your amps and subs.

[@BaysideSoundz]

Man I had a epicenter in my old set up. I sold my car with my music but kept my epicenter and my subs. My new set up I'm gonna do next month, I'm adding the dm-608 and putting back in my epicenter. I love the epicenter especially for some of the music genre that I listen to. Im never running without an epicenter. I can't wait to try the dm-608.

[@DJReminisce_407]

I know this is an old video but in the epicenter manual it tells you to put it before any processor

[@jamlzak2536]

Very good explanation!!! Couple of issues I'm having though with DSPs and Epicenters/bass processors. I have a Stetson Bluetooth processor that I'm considering installing before my preamps to clean up the sound from the head unit before any further amplification. I'll have 4 channels of selectable A, B and AB outputs (or combined as 2 since 1 output has to be split to connect an amp from one output. Meaning 1&2 would be a left and right if used straight). Using it this way I could tune channel 1 however I like and run it to the preamp let's say on the right input, #2 however would be on the left input both controlled by the preamp fader as a mids and highs preamp. Channels 3 and 4 would go to the inputs of the second preamp for midbass/midrange and bass. I think this would increase my tuning capabilities. I also think DSPs have the same features as Epicenters. Select the frequency in the parametric EQ (sweep), adjust it's Q (wide), boost or cut, adjust gain, etc. with tons of more tuning options. The preamps I use have subsonic filters from 30-300hz.

[@subarolla]

Fernando is definitely the actor from 'Employee of the month'

[@wrenchesandcars5161]

Is the dsr-1 good if you want pure sound quality on a budget

[@troybandy2349]

Two questions why don't you just turn off the low-pass filter on the pioneer subwoofer output and let the full range pass and the epicenter has a subsonic filter on it would you also use the subsonic filter on the amp too?

[@garypriest7679]

Always great stuff

[@artart7943]

will this send me to clip city? say I turn up the knob for rock or corridos

[@leroyjohnson3791]

Can you actually tune your amp with the epicenter in line

[@Thepyeguy314]

Thank you for the video. I have a question about my dsp I have a 17 ram with stock head unit with no factory amp I have replaced all stock speakers with Rockford Fosgate punch 6x9 an 3.5 dash and 5 channel Rockford amp with dsp being dsr1 I also have all harness from datalink my question is why does my sound does not come in tell 18 and my max volume is 30 I have 0 sound from 0 to 18 thanks for any info

[@markcasillas2166]

Hello thank you for all yiur awsome videos,as the future advances so does car audio,I need help on a question,I have a Jeep Cherokee kL trailhawk Addition but the sound system is the 8.4 screen and has only six speakers it’s not the fancy alpine that comes in some of them,Anyhow I want to keep the stock head unit I do have a LC7i I am going to be running a four channel amp for the mids and highs and Amp for the P threes as far as harness goes what would I need to get by the way doing Fosgate 6 x 9’s in the doors and I have the adapters to plug and play already

[@hippo-potamus]

So...how is a normal person who has a normal 4 channel headunit supposed to hook up the epicenter to it? since appraently the sub channel isnt full range, and the other 4 channels are already being taken up buy the front and rear rcas to the 4 channel amp?

[@kellvinb88]

I would like to know this also

[@hippo-potamus]

@@kellvinb88 I tried hooking up the epicenter and it sounded like sh8t a total garbage over hyped product. Worst car audio purchase I ever made.

[@OfficialCPProduction]

What about how would I properly set my gains with an OEM radio with an Pac Amp Pro Ty13 going to a Stetsom 2848 8 channel DSP going out to 3 different amps. I want to properly set gains but the Pac Amp Pro Ty13 has a gain volume and other settings too.

[@SG-Cichlids]

Why use the sub sonic filter on the amp when the epicenter comes with a 33hz sub sonic filter in it? You'll be double filtering.

[@fernandopulido1607]

If I have an aftermarket stereo is the DSP still necessary? I guess so because it's an equalizer

[@kewlbug]

I was under the impression Epicenter goes before DSP. Maybe You are assuming the DSP only has 2 inputs. Mine is 4x8 I'm gonna go sub outputs to epicenter and then epi to ch 3 and 4 on the DSP. I'm not sure what range my Alpine sub out does. It is in "defeat" mode though. I'll have to test it. DSP handles all the crossover, eq, delay. So I still get Sub level adjustment, plus the Epi knob.

[@kewlbug]

Thinking about Epicenter to help w classic rock and stuff. I still listen to all kinds of modern stuff. Sealed 12”s. How would epicenter affect Setup w REW and a DSP? Running Alpine 149bt to DSP-408 to 4ch and monoblock. You are saying to run sub full and use amp crossover now? Do you know if the sub out on the alpine is full range?

[@rawfilmsent540]

Want to try out the xfire dsp but I don’t understand it

[@maestrosolodolo3859]

I have a pioneer deq 7600 ,do I connect it from, the stereo to the epicenter to the eq

[@ChristopherStJohn-bt3ww]

Would the kicker key 200.4 be enough power for the kenwood 6x9 and 3.5 components? Paired with the key 500.1, in a dodge challenger with premium, should I get an amppro still?

[@akuma4u]

Using a pioneer avh head unit (avh 4800bs) do i use the sub channel or front or rear rca to go in to the epicenter? Not sure which is the right way: using sub channel with the low pass off on the hu or the front or rear rca with the low/high pass off ? What im confused about is if i use the sub channel with low pass off on the hu, will it allow all frequencies to pass or since its a sub channel does it only allow like 15hz to 250hz range since its the sub channel vs the front or rear which may be 15hz to 10000khz? Hope u can answer. Thanks

[@1badawg66]

If you turn off the low pass filter on the head won’t you get full range to the Epicenter?

[@TheVapSter]

That's what i was thinking

[@broken_oak]

On the example with the pioneer radio you showed raising the lpf to 250hz but couldn't you just turn the lpf off on the headunit sub out thus providing the full range signal and then route the level out to the epicenter, then monoblock and lpf there?

[@GreenIz510]

ditto? i am seeking this same answer to this question. I have a Pioneer AVIC-8201NEX with a front, rear and sub outputs. Am i supposed to use one of the front or rear outputs from my head unit? or is the sub output able to send full range signal also?

[@broken_oak]

@@GreenIz510 If you turn off the lpf on the sub out its full range. This imo is the correct way to run this setup.

[@abdomination]

I thought the epicenter needed to be set for the midwoofers too?

[@djmaverick8108]

hey five star,i have a factory radio/eq/lc6i/kicker front row,where to connect the epicenter after the front output?

[@markbest4230]

I have a question. I have a AM head unit, speakers, amps and a DSP. I don't want to use the inferior crossover of the amplifier. Will I use the 250 hz crossover point of the DSP into the epicenter and then to the amplifier? The DSP has a cx slope of 24db, L-R, respectively. I love that! I believe if I use the 12db cx of the amp, it will be additive, resulting in 36 db/octave. It's a kicker amp, DXA 1200.1.

[@markbest4230]

AM is aftermarket. The speakers are AM as well.

[@esmokebaby]

If I use a line converter with acubase from audio control will I have use with a epicenter

[@obsant7214]

Haven’t watched it fully yet so not sure if u talk about this yet lol but how do I wire my epicenter to be able to still be able to turn it down and play rap music but still have power going to the amp

[@angelsoftheseventhdawn]

So, with the Epicenter Plus, I'm experiencing some artifacts in the "restoration" of some music that has simple bass lines. In a particular song, the bass will either cut out or it will sound like the bass player got confused started playing the wrong notes. Do you happen to know what would cause this? My Epicenter is still factory set.

[@jameswendellmiller]

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[@jameswendellmiller]

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[@StacyBarrow]

Does the HU setting apply if I’m only using the DSP for subs?

[@newmedia2335]

Is Boss BV800ACP with CarPlay a good head unit?

[@kingjvofficial6160]

Can you do a video with a dsp and a esp2 or 3 please thank you!

[@shu1o]

Epicenter conundrum accubass or epicenter can I only have one? How are you able to take advantage of the accubass from the lc2i if the epicenter requires the full range channel where the lc2i pro doesn’t offer accubass.

[@rudykraker4905]

Could I run my epicenter on the Subwoofer output on a Alpine CDE172BTI believe it's a mono output thanks

[@TheNiner29er]

They like a stereo full range input with at least 20-800hz frequency response.

[@WAT3VATVUSA]

which is better AudioControl DM-810 8 by 10 Channel Matrix Digital Signal Processor or 3SIXTY.3????

[@TheNiner29er]

I've found that a LP filter of 800hz and below is all the Epicenter needed.

[@Bars_on_wheels]

This ppl are awesome 😎

[@rawfilmsent540]

What if your radio is outside of your car with 6 equalizers

[@deenasty894]

What if you have an equalizer do I use the rca from the deck to the equalizer out to the epicenter or ?

[@comardelgado]

You can do that but the most important thing is that you have to feed the epicenter an unfiltered signal. If the eq have a low pass crossover that can't be turn off, then you're not gonna send a full range signal to it.

[@KH-yv1bo]

i need a more in depth video tutorial on this topic

[@murdamechanik]

Hey guys I have a kicker iq1000.5 amplifier and I have a helix dsp mini. I wanted to use the helix as my dsp and not the built in one on the amp. Is the subwoofer crossover defeatable on the kicker amp? Or should I use the helix dsp subwoofer crossover. If I set a slope of 12 dB on the amp and 12 dB on the dsp does it become 24 dB d slope? I’m confused on this

[@rubbensofficial5511]

Could use the dsp if I only had the sub amp ,what would be my benefit?

[@esmokebaby]

Iam no expert but I don't think there would be a benefit at all due to the fact that it wouldn't have any other speakers to tune with and would be a lot of money wasted for just a sub

[@clintonking1841]

Can an epicenter be installed with a factory amp on my 2020 accord with the 450watt system?

[@SUTH_33]

Epicenter just for sub amp. doesn't need for factory multi-channel amp

[@flaq2401]

On tu da nex one guyz!

[@raulrosales326]

how can i add a dash eq using lc7i?

[@Tenzen.]

I just wish more people worked on Lexus. Then I could get help finding a spot to make a "Fernando Fuse Mount". There's like no where to put one in a V8 Lexus engine bay...at least not within 18"....=(

[@chriscuthbertson]

Why wouldn't you run the epicenter before the DSP?

[@deelos2269]

Why? he stated a bunch of times that he's giving it full range unfiltered channel like if was coming out from the head unit. Do better pay attention

[@edgarvazquez2486]

The little possum say BYEEEEEE. lol

[@Hesbonful]

Hi Sir. Thank you so much for posting the video. Please advise. I can't get my subwoofer to produce 20Hz bass; it still has punchy bass, which I don't want. Should I use an aftermarket cross over like "boss" to get the 20Hz wavy bass? I have a 12 inch, 2000watt Pioneer sub in ported box (responsive to 20Hz) with a dedicated Pioneer mono block 1000Hz amp in my car. The remaining midranges and tweeters each have their own 6 channel pioneer amplifier. Finally, I have a graphic equalizer. Please advise, sir, if I should get a cross over I, and tune it to 20zHz ? I have tried using several graphic equalizers, but none of them had a 20Hz bass knob to enable this kind of bas.s

[@JC-gd5of]

I have a question about the RCAs. My aftermarket head unit has Front Out, Rear Out and Sub Out. (Stinger Heigh10) My DSP (PRV Audio 2.8x) has A and B inputs and 8 outputs. I then have three amplifiers (all mono amps); 1 for Tweeters, 1 for Mids and 1 for Subs. How would you run the RCAs? A 6-channel RCA from the Head Unit to the DSP? If so, where would you connect the six channel RCA on the DSP? Would you then run individual 2 Channel RCAs to go from each output to the specific amplifier? What about the remote turn on? How would you run that? A single run from the Head Unit to the DSP? Then three individual runs from each amp to the DSP? I need a lot of help lol

[@InsulinAdikt]

You need to do more research. It is obvious to me that you haven't even read the manual for your dsp. Start there. Also, you need a 4 channel amp for those tweeters and mids. Mono amps aren't meant to be used for speakers where you will have a left and right input. I wouldn't even try to install a system with your current level of knowledge. It doesn't sound like you have any clue how car audio works. I recommend this channel, as well as caraudiofabrication. Mark from CAF makes really good short instructional videos that are well explained.

[@JC-gd5of]

@adam entrekin You literally added your 2 cents just to be relevant. If you’re not going to answer my questions, please don’t comment. If I’m asking the questions here, clearly I’m trying to educate myself. If you haven’t run full range mono amplifiers on multiple speakers before, I would suggest you do your research. Now get off my post.

[@TheVapSter]

Why not turn off LPF on the deck? Give the epic full bandwidth and let the epic, dsp and or amp do the filtering.

[@deelos2269]

When you guys watch the video, do you guys pay attention he's giving it full range literally mentions it bazillion times 😂

[@tkay4401]

Do you "need" a DSP to use the Epicenter? If your radio has six channel output, can you simply use the two for sub output to run into the Epicenter? Or, would it still be best to use a DSP so you can send full range signal to the Epicenter?

[@TheNiner29er]

An Epicenter does not require a DSP, feed it a full range input from the radio then let the sub amp do the LP filter

[@lowhertzhighspl]

2 mins in and i'm lost

[@lordclancharlie1325]

Same thing. I watched it again at .75 speed. Now I get it.

[@matiasgentili2178]

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