How to Shiny Hunt Manaphy

A lot of people didn't know you could hunt this, most that did, didn't know the right way, very few actually knew. So, I hope this helped to educate you on this hunt, feel free to ask questions!!!
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FAQ:
1) Yes this is transferrable to SuMo

[@shinycollector]

Some updated information: Trading resets the egg cycle (one cycle is 256 steps) so you can bring them down to the last 256 or less and be good to go and also NOT have to worry about the eggs eventually running out of steps and hatching before you can trade. This also means we do not need to trade a flame body Pokémon, flame body halves the amount of egg cycles not egg steps but if you’re on the last cycle it does not benefit. This saves time by removing that trade. Also Japanese D/P are the fastest games for doing this. I’ve also been told (although have not personally tested) that if you only do 4 eggs it is faster because it reduces your entries to the union room and reduces trades per reset. Someone told me they managed 16/hour doing this. If you guys get new information by testing things please let me know and I’ll try to update this!

[@jpeepo7985]

one question, if all 4 eggs were to be originally collected on ome save file, will that mess anything up?

[@shinycollector]

JPeepo no sir

[@jpeepo7985]

@@shinycollector thank you very much :)

[@Tailsfan777]

Late but I'm currently doing this hunt. Every video of this hunt I see shows them using the summary page to check. I would assume it would also appear shiny in the PC as well? I am hunting on 4 DS' with 20 eggs, and I have been using the box to check cause you can scroll through them faster and also swap Pokemon after checking. Also thanks a ton on the egg cycle info. That should save me a ton of time

[@shinycollector]

Tailsfan777 yes checking in the box also works, good luck!

[@mycatsnameisdash]

You can choose one: A: Build a career start a family, send your kids to university B: shiny manaphy

[@shinycollector]

Damn, that’s a tough choice

[@dimith2082]

Bloopybloop shiny manaphy whole day I mean whole life

[@lucideirune1635]

I am not into relationships so that is an easy answer. Besides, Manaphy is quieter.

[@JJLol1310]

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[@DoggoTheSimp]

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[@bag00nga]

If anybody actually gets a Shiny Manaphy using this method is a god. This is actually insane

[@tobysullivan2498]

duck 3eggs

[@shinycollector]

I'm at 150 eggs, and my friend Sonikkts is at 1200 I believe

[@bag00nga]

ShinyCollector98 Good luck to you and Sonikkts on the hunt then!

[@mewacific1512]

Piplup1704 The 10,000 one had to of hacked to get all of the eggs,so the Shiny would still be illegitimate,even if the eggs had the normal Shiny odds

[@chlobat9627]

I have massive respect for anyone who does

[@jacobturner9767]

Best way to shiny hunt for Manaphy Don't

[@alexnatsu1353]

Jacob Turner, that's not even a way to shiny hunt *mutters*dumbass*

[@JJGuey-vf1hb]

Jacob Turner or you can gen

[@OutsideBoxx87]

Jacob Turner do you know da wei

[@chiiche]

@@alexnatsu1353 ik this is from a year ago but it was a joke

[@imovedaccountssostfu8093]

Cosmic Planet AJ nowadays you just give them an r/whoosh

[@Daniel328DT]

Best way to shiny hunt Manaphy. *Proceeds to give 100 steps* Me: well I guess that isn't happening

[@shinycollector]

ÐαηΐεŁ328 DT lol yeah I tried it for a while, didn’t work out for me either xD

[@clinicalbrendon]

What does this mean? Is it like walking the egg to where there is only a 100 steps left to hatch? Cuz that's what I did and I'm still doing it

[@WaddIes]

manaphy is a shiny that just isnt really worth hunting..

[@ericaallisonc]

Master Penquin I know right? It's such a waste of time and money for such a lame legendary and shiny

[@cian2168]

I wish it was black. Something different from the usual.

[@cinansnickem228]

Master Penquin Unless you're streaming/recording the whole thing because then you can just go up to other shiny hunters and be like "You caught 20 shinies this week? Well guess what, i have a legit shiny manaphy"

[@WaddIes]

lol yeah but as a shiny hunter, its actually a shiny that feels more like a waste of time than actual satisfaction, maybe for the hunter.. but I mean.. look at it :P all that time for a slightly lighter blue colour.. I shiny hunt pokemon that are a slightly different tint, but I wouldn't spend THAT much time for one

[@shinycollector]

Master Penquin for me, and many other hunters, the hunting method is worth the shiny hunt just as much as the shiny. The fact that no one has done this legitimately yet is reason enough to hunt it for me at least

[@spaciebun]

Fastest way to get a shiny manaphy 1) Cheat.

[@shinycollector]

Bubbletail The Cheerful Azumarill wow, what a revolutionary.

[@spaciebun]

ShinyCollector98 Glad I could "help" you, keep up the good videos and carry on making people easier to find shinies! *

[@jonathansins8950]

I got one from wonder trade lol

[@kappapond]

@@jonathansins8950 Aww, that sucks man. F

[@RTGXII]

@@kappapond bro that's a good thing

[@hedecky58]

Great explanation for this super confusing hunt. Because of the difficult nature of this, I've declared it too unreasonable for me to do and I just traded for a questionable shiny Manaphy.

[@shinycollector]

lol for a "questionable shiny manaphy" nice man. But thanks, really appreciate it!

[@Mercer526]

Found my wife's old copy of pokemon ranger. She was stuck on the final boss so the game still had the manaphy egg. Time to hunt for the next 5 years

[@shinycollector]

LOL good luck homie

[@0002bomber]

I've been waiting for this since you started talking about it on twitter ! Thank you for making this :D

[@shinycollector]

Watersoaker2 Glad you got hyped for my video! No problems 😁

[@IcyCreamStar]

Thanks for making this LJ! Now let's see how many people get a shiny starter or RE before the Manaphy.

[@shinycollector]

CreamKnight21 a lot, at least half probably

[@CaptainObliviousV]

I recently obtained a legit Manaphy egg from Ranger and was considering attempting this hunt. I never thought I’d see the day I’d actually need this guide, but I’m glad to have it. Thank you.

[@user-iv6gy7hb8u]

as somebody who shiny hunted manaphy; the recommended amount of eggs to use in the hunt is 4, not 5. the reason for this is because in generation 4, to be able to do a trade, you need at least two pokemon in your party that aren't eggs. so it's much more efficient to go about the hunt with 4 per batch, rather than 5.

[@notgabriel8624]

This hunt is insane.. but manaphy is one of my fav Pokémon.. hopefully in another game there will be way to hunt manaphy again, like an in game event to get the manaphy egg.

[@BadgerLordRoseThorn]

So I finally got my shiny Manaphy using your video guide and I am so stoked!

[@shinycollector]

No way!! Major congrats man!!!

[@BadgerLordRoseThorn]

@@shinycollector I thought my shiny Celebi was hard to get but I got that in 4,691 soft resets on the VC version of Crystal.

[@W0RLD0FLIGHT]

This is why I like you, your channel, and videos :3

[@shinycollector]

thank you so much! :D

[@W0RLD0FLIGHT]

You're welcome :D

[@TheGaboefects]

Actually you can get even more eggs and faster than that if you use an R4. If you beat pokemon ranger and save before recieving an egg, before getting the egg, you should save the SAV. data into your computer and after getting and sending the egg, instead of beating the game again you put your micro SD into your computer and overwright the current save data with the one you just saved in your pc, that way you don´t need to beat the game again. This is often used to clone pokemon in generations 4 and 5.

[@shinycollector]

TheGaboefects yeah you could, but that's even more illegitimate at that point which is why I left it out. That and I felt like people would get confused at that point. But I guess if you're already doing it on R4 anyways, then why not

[@TheGaboefects]

Well, if you really wanted to cheat since you are using an R4 you can just put a cheat to make the manaphy shiny. If you put yourself into doing this, you are still having to deal with a 1 in 8192 chances of hatching the shiny, not to mention moving an egg through 3 different games is still a very long a tedious process if you compare it to just doing random encounters. If you go through all this i feel like you really earn it, even more than people that hunt in newer games and/or using methods to lower the odds, but i suppose everyone has different thoughts and feels different about this subject.

[@shinycollector]

TheGaboefects I wouldn't have any problems with it, it would be a good choice to save time. But take the guy who hacked in Manaphy eggs and traded them across games and then released them and hacked in more eggs. That's practically the same thing, genning in an egg without working for it. Yeah he did put in work to get his shiny Manaphy and it couldn't have been easy still, but people still don't believe he did it right and he hasn't really even gotten credit in the community for getting it

[@SeaSlug]

well would it not be more legit if you don't use a r4 and just erase the data on a real copy? by that i mean a tool like r4i save dongle that can export the saves of real DS games and just have it nuke the pokemon ranger. or a homebrew app on a 3ds to just nuck the save as well. pokemon ranger is a trash game so 100000% legit manaphy is not worth it. or just pay someone to beat that trash game for you

[@natnew32]

Erasing the data on a real copy won't have the same effect.

[@WISHMKRMortem]

I see practically no info on it, so I’m assuming it’s locked, but can the Manaphy Egg from Shadows of Almia be hunted the same way?

[@shinycollector]

Yes, it would follow the same exact rules. When I made this tutorial people didn’t know about DNS (Idk if it even existed yet) so I didn’t include that. But now that we can DNS the event, it’s relevant. Btw just to help further inform people: DNS is not “fully legit” as many people think. It’s as legit as hacking the event in, it’s just safer and less expensive through DNS than using an action replay

[@djhoward4766]

@@shinycollector a bit late to this but can you reset the almia event at all? I was under the impression it was also a one time thing

[@shinycollector]

DJ Howard not sure, feel free to test it

[@Wow1w]

@@djhoward4766 it is a one time thing; after you transfer the egg off your Ranger SOA copy, you can't transfer anymore. *Edit* ok, turns out you *Can* technically hunt multiple eggs off the same cart, but it requires a way to backup/restore the save on the cart.

[@kasper368ify]

Im a shiny hunter and dont really want to do this hunt

[@TheTrueFoxFell]

I noticed you mentioned something about the egg cycles and not needing to trade a flame body pokemon, but how can you tell when youre on the final egg cycle? Also, if I were to trade two manaphy eggs to Diamond, and one hatched shiny on Pearl, would they both hatch shiny or do they gain completely different values to make them unique? I plan on doing this hunt soon with 2-3 eggs I've managed to accumulate so I want to make sure I have everything set solid before I do

[@bwburkeGaming]

How exactly is the "Manaphy egg" flag stored in the Ranger save data? Is it possible to overwrite the save on an actual cartridge through external tools, then have it give another Manaphy?

[@shinycollector]

bwburkeGaming it might be possible, I'm not very knowledgeable on ranger's technical functions so I can't help you with that one, but if you manage to find out please let me know!

[@dadman8474]

Was absolutely blown away when I pulled out my old copy of Pokémon ranger and got the manaphy egg over 12 years later…

[@eonflutehza131]

Insanity, major respect to those who go through with this.

[@emretroll]

This shiny hunt is really on my bucketlist, but i gotta have the dedication to actually start the hunt

[@shinycollector]

It’s honestly a lot more fun than it seems!

[@suraca8695]

Currently planning out a route for a shiny living dex in gen 4, this is probably going to take the most time out of all of the pokemon I've routed so far. It would be interesting to see if you could do same rng manipulation to get a specific tid/sid combo for the egg consistently. Edit: It is possible!

[@tsushimon3958]

I'm attempting this myself for ISHC, even tho I probably won't get it in time before the competition ends. Really tedious, but it'll be worth it once u finally get it, so whoever hunts this, no matter what, don't give up, that shiny manaphy will come eventually! c:

[@shinycollector]

Tsushimon good luck! If you get it before ISHC ends that would be crazy fast!!! I've put mine on hold a bit, at 160 so far

[@natnew32]

What's ISHC?

[@cinansnickem228]

Can someone please tell me why am i watching this? I don't own a single pokemon game, not to mention i knew all of this already. Send help

[@snivader]

Well, you're not alone..

[@karellengkong1918]

if someone pulled this off it would be on a whole new level of amazing

[@ricky4064]

I was also wondering if using an R4 to beat Pokemon Ranger for this to work. Im glad you made this bc ill probably start this hunt soon too

[@shinycollector]

Yeah it absolutely works, good luck on this hunt, it's a killer one!!!

[@JessIsSketch]

I an imagine someone getting manaphy eggs the legitimate way: Employee (if purchasing at GameStop): hello how may I help you? Person: hi where are the Pokemon ranger games? Employee: oh over there! Person: okay thanks! *20 minutes later* Person:*holding like 20 Pokemon ranger games* Employee: O_O um okay that'll be *insert the price of the games here* Person: Okay *pays then leaves* Employee:WTH was that?? Manager: I don't even know... -_-

[@marcosmanrique8570]

Evie Pokemon lol

[@alienxotic5028]

Hey, it gave them money!

[@Wow1w]

Best hope all of used copies didn't trade the manaphy egg already ;)

[@seabit253]

I clicked this fully expecting just one word. Don't.

[@shinycollector]

CactusErebittsu I mean if I could offer any advice, that would be it.

[@silverhawkplayz4347]

Thanks this helped people like me who like hunting Impossible Pokémon.

[@andrea_poulpy6487]

a french youtuber was speaking about a "buffer egg" for this hunt, because when you've checked all of your manaphy eggs on a game, you must walk one step to enter in the union room to trade them in another game, so it can happen that you loose one of the eggs. The buffer egg is here to hatch before the manaphy eggs and prevent you from loosing an egg (I'm sorry if the explanation is a little bit confused, it's hard to explain it even in french 😅)

[@shinycollector]

Yeah it makes sense, I've thought of doing that as well. But even if that egg hatches, it doesn't stop the others from hatching

[@andrea_poulpy6487]

ShinyCollector98 in the fourth generation games, the egg mechanic make that it's impossible for the manaphy egg to hatch when there is the buffer egg

[@nicolaslambaren7112]

Love the content!

[@txferretgirl]

man once you get a game that can hatch shiny manaphy then you are golden

[@shinycollector]

txferretgirl well keep in mind it will only work for that specific egg, you can't keep send eggs to it and hatching them and they'll all be shiny. Each egg has a different personality value

[@BadAshKetchum]

I attempted this hunt a while back. I got tired of taking forever just to hatch the eggs, so I tried to get smart and put some steps onto the eggs before trading them to my hunting games.... this didn't work and I ended up hatching all of the eggs without being able to trade them anymore because the eggs only had 1 step left to hatch

[@glyon506]

I have a question. You know how once you exit the union room, to enter it again, you need to take one step to talk to the receptionist? Do those steps add up?

[@shinycollector]

G Lyon slowly, but that’ll take thousands of cycles, and if you do sets of 4 or so, you’ll be at about 40,000 before that, and will most likely get the shiny first

[@mateesery4448]

I expect to see a shiny manaphy reaction video soon on this channel. Kappa

[@shinycollector]

Mateesery 44 I don't know about soon, like I said, only 10 an hour, I'm at 150 eggs

[@andrewroy9263]

Wait, the manaphy egg from pokemon ranger can never hatch shiny on the original gen 4 game I trade it to? Thank you for this.

[@pokefriend123]

This video really helped and now I’ve managed to hatch my 4th shiny Manaphy egg thanks for streamlining this for us!

[@shinycollector]

Ok but false

[@pokefriend123]

ShinyCollector / ok but how many legitimate shiny Manaphy do YOU have sir?

[@shinycollector]

pokefriend123 fuckin zero, this hunt is too crazy, only one person that I know of in this community has even completed it once.

[@Flamyll]

@@pokefriend123 If you're trying to pass off doing this hunt multiple times legitimately, you have to be *out* of your mind. 🤥 It's far too taxing on time/patience/fortitude just to do it Once. I got my shiny Manaphy after 2 and a half years and I know for a fact I will never *ever* do this hunt again. Of course if you've actually done it 4 times you would get a ton of views if you uploaded a video/stream a 5th time hunting it. You could gain alot of followers that way.

[@toxagen1144]

you can also use a jailbroken 3ds and TWL to delete saves as well instead of using an R4. What I did was get the event, beat the mission (I was playing shadows btw) and then get to the transfer screen. Then I made a save state using Checkpoint and then transferred the egg. Then I wiped the game using TWL and then rebooted the save file using Checkpoint. This works for me

[@rubenzzituh]

question: with the r4 method, if i save the .sav file from after completing the game and before transfering the manaphy, if i replace it for the one after transfering the manaphy, will it be the exact same egg?

I think that just means you can get multiple eggs, but not sure if they are the same.

[@janzander459]

so how about creating a backup of the save file from the rangers game and just replacing the old one after each trade of the egg? or will it always give the egg the same values? or is it generating them as soon as the game is started or whatever?

[@knowhatnot347]

Another easy way to see if a ranger copy has the egg is to go to an old video game store and if they have Pokémon ranger you can ask to test the game (works for me every time I’m looking for games, they usually allow you to test them) then you check if it’s already been redeemed off of ranger net, if it has, too bad. If it hasn’t, you’re pretty lucky (this is how I got mine)

[@flaymien_2450]

So would this manaphy actually make it into the new generation, because poke transporter has a lot of checks for the legitimacy of pokemon. I used tweaking glitches to get darkrai and arceus in pearl, and poke transporter stopped both of them from moving to gen 6. Furthermore, Nintendo stopped all shiny jirachis because sooooooo many of them are hacked however they fixed that. Even if the manaphy is obtained totally legitimately, because this is such a complicated method, poke transporter may see it as hacked and stop it. dyou know if that'll happen?

[@flaymien_2450]

Lit. Thanks.

[@j4kltheoneandonly03]

I just learned about this today after doing the DNS exploit for two manaphy eggs. One’s already hatched but I’m using the other to shiny hunt. I bet it would take months to find the shiny, but I’m motivated to try lol

[@ketchup901]

This will only work up until a certain point. When you exit the union room, you need to walk one step to the left in order to talk to the lady to get back in. Therefore, after approximately 2000 cycles of creating new games, your eggs will start hatching while trying to go back into the union room.

[@shinycollector]

Ketchup901 that would be true if manaphy took 2000 steps, however it’s closer to 10,000 so even with flame body it’s a little over 5000 cycles assuming 4 eggs to maximize cycles, that’s 20,000 eggs. Or if you opt out of flame body more than 40,000 eggs. Plenty for a shiny.

[@ketchup901]

Are you sure it's 10000? All internet sources I can find says it's 10 egg cycles or around 2500 steps. Of course you could circumvent it by having a throwaway egg with one step remaining, preventing the Manaphy eggs from hatching since only one egg can hatch per step.

[@shinycollector]

Ketchup901 oh you’re right, I confused its cycle with manaphy. However, you can just go put them in the box and save, then take them out and hatch each time to set back its cycle a bit because of how the gen 4 egg mechanics work

[@ketchup901]

Wouldn't that eventually just get you to the same situation where you can't get back into the union room?

[@shinycollector]

Ketchup901 no, putting them in the box resets it’s cycle your steps to and from the pc would be reset each time you put them in the pc

[@greek34uk8]

Any advice on how to get the eggs in the beginning Also to save poke balls just have the Pokemon you trade over have a poke ball if you run out

[@arechopcan2569]

Well I'm not too worried since most of my life I've been told I'm a patient kid, so I think I might actually have a shot at getting that shiny Manaphy even tho it barely changes in the first place lol

[@j1t176]

Was trying to get info on hunting this in BDSP, consensus was that it wasn't possible. And not I'm here. Thinking I'm gonna try this. Also what are the theoretical odds for this hunt?

[@iksarguards]

I’ve listened to this whole walkthrough and now I’m cross eyed

[@shinycollector]

King of the Ogres yeah sounds about right

[@Seth-lt7st]

I just spent...about 2 hours finishing my old Ranger Copy I had from 2012. Surprisingly it had a Manaphy egg in it and I am hesitant to go about this especially since I have one egg and probably aren't getting anymore

[@mercedes8954]

I've restarted my ranger game several times to get new eggs and it's worked so far? I just have to beat the game which only takes me about 5-6 hours so i can get 1-2 eggs in a day without using a cheating device if i'm really trying. Is this a glitch or is it actually possible to get multiple eggs from one game?

[@shapeswitch_mood7221]

"Somewhat unethical"? I don't think that a game that only give one item and that is it forever is fully well though. It is like in Pokemon (not Rangers), you failed to capture a legendary, and no matter if you reset, it is gone forever, and the game is doomed.

[@shinycollector]

See that’s the thing, ethics vary person to person. I don’t have a problem with it but some might. Also it’s totally different, manaphy is a mythical not legendary. It’s supposed to be super rare and nearly impossible to obtain.

[@jakustavius]

If the Manaphy Egg's shininess is determined by your Trainer & Secret IDs, couldn't you use RNG Manip to ensure you get IDs that generate a shiny? I'd understand if people think that's unethical, but would it work?

[@shinycollector]

Yes you can RNG abuse it, but that’s not shiny hunting hence why not referenced in this video

[@christianfnsskov9045]

I’m curious if it is possible and would like to know, but could you walk with the 10 eggs so they only have around 50-80 steps left and then save, so you wouldnt have to take all the steps everytime to hatch it?

[@shinycollector]

Something like that, but not quite that. Trading resets the egg cycle (one cycle is 256 steps) so you can bring them down to the last 256 or less and be good to go and also not have to worry about the eggs running out of steps and hatching.

[@ThatsCrunchyBro]

very cool, didn't know this was possible

[@shinycollector]

ThatsCrunchyBro thanks! Not many people did :D

[@shinysamurott613]

I hunt shinies but the only mythicals I'm actually going to hunt for are: Mew (Possibly as it is difficult to obtain a shiny transferable mew in gen 1) Celebi (Coin case glitch) Darkrai (Void Glitch) Shaymin (same as Darkrai) And maybe Arceus (can be encountered with the void glitch but unlike Darkrai and Shaymin you can't save before encountering it so it takes way longer) As well as any shiny mythicals released later down the line. But Manaphy it would be extremely difficult for me to get my hand on even one pokemon ranger game and even then this is still near impossible.

[@shinycollector]

Shiny Samurott so are you against cheating devices? Because some of these can be obtained by better/easier means if you're okay with a cheating device as just part of the set up. And yeah as for Manaphy it's the same odds as Darkrai, Shaymin, etc. just takes more time

[@shinysamurott613]

ShinyCollector98 I just don't use them personally. I would do it but I'm not really in a position to get a cheating device right now.

[@thefuzzylucario6716]

There is a way to get Arceus with the void glitch/tweaking. I've tried it, made it to Arceus twice, but my game froze. There's a team that knows how to do it though; it's been a while since I tried again.

[@Excalibur0126]

Late to the party, but would it be faster to transfer a new batch of 10 eggs from the Ranger games instead of trading the existing eggs to a new save file? I'm under the assumption that you can transfer multiple eggs to the same save file.

[@shinycollector]

Each ranger copy can only give 1 egg, even if you start a new save on it, there’s literally 1 egg per existing Ranger. Also, it’s shiny locked on the game that originally gets the egg, so even if it worked that way, it would be impossible due to shiny lock

[@Excalibur0126]

@@shinycollector If I’m taking the R4 route, then it shouldn’t be an issue since I can just reload the save to before the transfer (as referenced in the video). What I’m wondering is: is it faster to play through the game again or reload the ranger save to get more eggs?

[@that1lizardjamie]

Something worth mentioning here is that if you fully reset the save data of any Pokémon Ranger game using CFW, you can get another Manaphy egg. Don't waste the money.

[@lewismesaros8638]

Could you just run a series of steps until the manaphy egg is about to hatch, then trade the egg over? Or does trading it reset the steps to hatch?

[@shinycollector]

Lewis Mesaros it doesn't reset the eggs, which is the bad part. Because you'd need to walk in/out/around in the union room which adds steps. Eventually it will just hatch before you can send it to the other games and you'd need to collect all the eggs over again

[@ThedomiNATION]

Im doing this with five manaphy eggs all from separate ranger games and I think its easier to cycle the eggs between three different games instead of two. You can trade half to one game and hatch then trade those to the third game while trading the second half to the second game then cycle through. I wish I had 8 eggs so I can do the most out of the three games but I am not going to buy 3 more ranger games and play through them.

[@shinycollector]

The domiNATION if you don't mind checking how long it takes for a full cycle of that from starting a new game until hatching all the eggs, I would really appreciate it!

[@ThedomiNATION]

ShinyCollector98 I'll have to time how long it takes for one trade first. I know it takes about 20 minutes to get a game ready to trade. All I would have to do is see how long it takes to do the five trades between the three games. The reason I think three is faster is because you will have one game to restart at all times without having to trade back and fourth in order to make sure you dont delete some of your eggs. I'll let you know how long it takes to do one of my cycles of five eggs.

[@j4kltheoneandonly03]

I’m looking for a new Pokemon Ranger game to get the manaphy egg. I started looking at Amazon and see that the games arent pricy as expected, but I do wanna know if they have the egg or not. That’s the tricky part.

[@GlitchedCactus]

So did this video explain what Underdog2020 was talking about on twitter?

[@shinycollector]

BlueGamer11 oh what was he talking about on twitter?

[@KouvisWasTaken]

so basically you just need to trade a manaphy to new game files?

[@shinycollector]

DiegoGarx yep trade to a new file each time and hatch it

[@Piplup-js5uu]

What would be the best way to hatch the Manaphy eggs so you save the most steps. Would hatching 4 at a time be the best or trading all of them over and hatching the eggs then? Also a bit of a different question but R4 cards (Or at the very least mine) have a way to save and load games and I've heard you can use this to get Manaphy eggs really quickly. I'm assuming you would think this would make the eggs illegitimate but i'm just wondering what you think. Not what i think you think.

[@shinycollector]

Piplup1704 trading all the eggs then hatching 5 in your party (w/ flame body or magmar as other one Pokémon slot) then checking all 5 summary at once. Swap those 5 for your other 5 in the box and hatch those, then check, then soft reset. This is possible if you make copies of the save and it would be able to shiny hunt by this means. It does make it a little more illegitimate feeling to me, but if you're using R4 anyways then why not. And in the grand scale of the hunt and hundreds/thousands of hits you'll end up having in it, I wouldn't blame anyone for wanting to just play it once and copy the save for the eggs. Each egg would be transferred over with its own Personality value (unless very unlikely happen to get the same one) so it would be huntable like this

[@Piplup-js5uu]

So if i got let's say 10 like in the video and i got all 10 in my platinum they would all have a separate chance of being shiny right? (Unless you get the same personality value which as you said in unlikely) Right now i'm at the dusk factory in pokemon ranger and i hate Mr mime also the reason i asked is because i was thinking that trading 4 hatching trading back etc. would take 3 trips to the PC across both games whilst trading them all and hatching them then would take 3 for the first game and 3 for the second meaning it would technically be better to hatch 4 at a time (I can just get more manaphy eggs if i run out of steps anyway)

[@shinycollector]

Piplup1704 yes they each would have their own chance of being shiny. And restarting the game after 4 would be longer because you'd have to wait the minute or so for the game data to delete, and then go through the beginning of the game and all the dialogue over, now you're at 8 minutes rather than 3 to just trade, or I guess 6 to trade twice. That and you have more chances to get a shiny starter, which wouldn't be that bad, and more chances to find an uncatchable wild shiny because you don't have pokeballs yet, which would suck. Trust me, I did try many other methods to this hunt, and this IS the best way.

[@Piplup-js5uu]

OK i'll take your word for it. In case you're even slightly confused i meant trade over 4 hatch them if none are shiny SR trade back take those 4 back to the PC replace for another 4 trade hatch until all ten have been hatched. That would be three trips to the PC. Also i realised you can't really go for a specific nature in case you want one. You just have to get lucky

[@lifestylegaming90]

I have one more question for you. I had a game that HAS the egg. I know it will suck but can I do this with one egg?

[@shinycollector]

Yeah it’s possible

[@lifestylegaming90]

@@shinycollector awesome so this should be fun. Got really lucky had this game for used game for years. Never touched it bc I though they took the egg. Finished the game just bc and there it was!

[@applesatemyface5605]

Do you happen to have an updated link where I can buy an r4?

[@kjelltolsma5065]

So i recently picked up a used copy or pokemon ranger. Ofc i reset the old save file without putting too much thought into it. Now i realise manaphy is a thing, and i looked into it a bit. I dont remember the home screen from my predecessor, but i do know there is no ranger net option for me. Does this mean the manaphy is still available?

[@shinycollector]

Kjell Tolsma no idea, beat the game and check

[@rei6078]

People shiny hunting Manaphy are like the real life Phantom from the movie lol

[@ValiantPixel]

Let me see if I understand this correctly. If I were to obtain Manaphy eggs in HG/SS and Platinum, I could trade all 3 eggs into Pearl, save the game before hatching the eggs, hatch those eggs, then reset and trade the eggs back into one of the HG/SS/Pt games before creating a fresh file in Pearl and doing it all over again? Does that mean you don't need to generate a new egg every time you're unsuccessful? Is the number of Ranger games that people keep talking about just a method of increasing the number of Manaphy's hatched per save file? I would appreciate any kind of clarification from someone out there.

[@AngelPerez-pl9dr]

Yes, exactly that, 10 is more or less the number of mons you can catch at that point in the new game, so to speed things up you transfer 10 eggs each time. But unless you are against RNG manipulation I wouldn't use this method at all. You can RNG manipulate the egg's PID knowing the TID/SID from the other game (which usually involves catching a shiny in that game to begin with) or (even better, but more difficult) RNG manipulate the TID/SID in the other game, which may be slower and more difficult, but you end up with a new save with known TID/SID (great to keep using RNG manipulation) and a shiny starter. That way you don't need to buy 10 games or use an external device (R4).

[@FrancoKing419]

Would it be illegitimate if i duplicated an already finished pokemon ranger save file with the manaphy egg? I'm sorry if this a dumb question.

[@shinycollector]

Kind of a gray area imo

[@ChromoNoah]

Can manaphys transferred from an r4 card be transferred up to gen 8 or 9?

[@kurtgs4867]

I know you can use the DNS exploit to get Manaphy eggs from Shadows of Almia, but is that event once per save file or once per cartridge? If it’s once per save file I may be able to hunt it, although it’s probably once per cartridge

[@shinycollector]

I believe once per file, I hadn’t mentioned it because DNS wasn’t as known when I made this video, also that’s not fully legit too. It’s like hacking in over WiFi but yes an option

[@kurtgs4867]

@@shinycollector Thank you. Now, I just need to find my copy!

[@kurtgs4867]

ShinyCollector Also, how much of the game will I need to play if I do use the DNS exploit?

[@shinycollector]

KurtGS no clue

[@superkonijn988]

So once you have received the eggs on game 1 You want to trade over the eggs to game 2 If they hatch and are not shiny then you have to trade the eggs back to game 1 and hatch them there. Am i correct? Also can,t you have multiple save files on a R4? Isn,t it smarter to make multple backups/copy the save file before you send the manaphy egg over? Or have the eggs in the pokemon ranger game set values before you even transfer them.

[@shinycollector]

super konijn98 you're almost correct. Start a new game on game 1 before trading them back. Then continue, hatch on game one and if not shiny there create a new game on game 2, trade them there, hatch them, and so on. Yes you could do this but I felt like it would be confusing to a lot of people so I left it out. Also it feels less legitimate to me because at that point you're not earning the eggs and you might as well just hack them in.

[@superkonijn988]

ShinyCollector98 ah tnx for correcting me. And yeah copying save files isn,t very legit but i got curious because you left it out of the video but now i know why Thank you for answering my question

[@takashi5204]

I'm really late to the party, but how do you get a flame body Pokémon before the first gym badge to still be able to trade it with a fresh start game?

[@shinycollector]

You don’t, you prep it on whatever save you have before starting the hunt

[@takashi5204]

@@shinycollector I was thinking you couldn't trade with saves with more gym badges than you. I'm brain-farting. Thank you for the response!

[@TDAdvocate]

You also can use a tool that lets you flash saves onto DS cartridges or a CFW 3DS to flash saves onto DS carts and use only one copy of Pokemon ranger multiple times. Either of these two options I believe to be the cheapest and most legal way of going about dealing with this. Cause if you have a way to legally dump your own Pokémon ranger Rom to use on the R4 then you likely can just keep reflashing the cart with the proper save files to endlessly get these eggs. And I realise this video is old but I believe even then these two methods I mentioned were available in some capacity. And if you weren’t aware you can no longer get the egg legitimately without flashing someone else’s save file at this point in time so you will have to do some kind of flashing as finding a cart that hasn’t had the egg used yet is almost impossible unfortunately. Hopefully this info can help someone else since this was all a pain for me to figure out.

[@ha_ur_dead6675]

I’m going the 3DS CFW route in an attempt soon. I have a legit copy of shadows of almia with an egg so I just backed up my save and got several eggs. Now I just need to set aside some days to trade between my DP and HGSS games. Any extra eggs at the end will be removed.

[@VaultDwellerAdventures]

I want to try this hunt for a while! I think is one of the hardest ones...

[@shinycollector]

It’s not worth imo haha

[@Aroggo]

Hello shiny collector :) I have a question. Im trying to reset a shiny manaphy now. I picked it up from the Green guy. And when i swap it to my other games, it always has the same nature. Is this normal? Can it ever be shiny because the nature and the Stats are always the same?

[@shinycollector]

Nature and stats are set, shininess will vary. This is normal you’re good to keep going on the hunt!

[@Aroggo]

@@shinycollector thank u very much for your quick Response. Its modest nature. I hope i get a shiny manaphy soon :)

[@Nearnae]

I am confused by on step. Lets say I get one egg, trade it to another Diamond/Pearl and hatch it there. Can I soft reset to try and hatch it again? Or do I have to trade it to another Diamond/Pearl game?

[@shinycollector]

You’d have to send it to a new game each time. If it was not shiny on any game, rehatching it on that same game would get the same result

[@ItsNep]

Would it be possible to delete the save file of a legitimate cartridge via an R4 save dongle or something?

[@shinycollector]

No but if you’re trying to do all that you could just wipe the R4 save? Just as legitimate at that point. Or you could wipe the save with custom firmware 3DS

[@ItsNep]

@@shinycollector Alright thanks! Also - Is there any reason why you would play the original Ranger over Guardian Signs, since the latter allows you to send as many Manaphy eggs you want (to different cartridges ofc)?

[@shinycollector]

It's Nep well that’s a WiFi only event, so for legitimacy that’s not an option and DNS servers are not legit. Also DNS servers either didn’t exist or no one knew of them when I made this video years ago

[@JoseCruz-dk3fi]

Did you complete this hunt or are you still on it?

[@shinycollector]

José Cruz I stopped after 220 hatched I believe

[@hekirb3382]

I just realized, peoples keep saying "pokemon ranger" , do you actually need the first game or do you need shadows of almia? Looking at the box art for ranger, it looks like it only contains up to gen 3 mons, so it seems weird that it would be the one to give you a 4g mon

[@shinycollector]

Only original ranger gives the egg without a WiFi event

[@chrisdibra8416]

thinking about how long this would take makes my head hurt

[@shinycollector]

aeron dibra hunting it, it takes forever, my soul hurts.

[@aerospherology2001]

You can completely erase the Ranger save file from one cartridge and reset it over and over instead of buying 10. Resetting the save data like that requires external tools, though.

[@enoyna1001]

Like what?

[@that1lizardjamie]

@@enoyna1001 Personally I used TWLSaveTool on 3DS, but I'd imagine that there are other methods that will work. From what I recall, Checkpoint doesn't reset the egg for some reason. Please do not quote me on this.

[@Lul_Demigod]

Thats odd because i used a site called pokegtsdns and got the manaphy egg from random and it took forever to hatch and when it did it was shiny due to my lack of knowledge on shinies i thought jt was supposed to look like that

[@petereppinga5581]

For some reason my Manaphy has on 4 different games the same stats en Nature. makes this it still possible to get it shiny?

[@shinycollector]

The stats and nature are already determined, but your TID and SID vary per save. Those, in combination with manaphy’s stagnant PID, can cause it to be shiny with the right save file

[@ethancampbell9096]

Are there any r4 cards you recommend?

[@shinycollector]

Ethan Campbell literally the one I put in the description

[@derekmijangos9071]

This is impressive...

[@shinycollector]

Derek Mijangos thanks, a lot of research has gone into it!

[@Blaze4ification]

Can I just buy it on the wii u virtual console instead? Are you able to transfer from it to the ds games?

[@shinycollector]

I don’t believe they’re compatible, no

[@stache6334]

Which r4 is the best to use?

[@YermTerragon]

if only we had a 3DS pokemon ranger game. then people who buy it digitally would be able to completely reset their games and get tons of manaphy eggs

[@ThomasP7572]

The personality value stays the same right? So could one could use RNG manip to get their TID and SID to match the known shiny value of a Manaphy to get a shiny. But at that point one might as well hack to get the shiny I guess ._.

[@shinycollector]

Yes it’s personality value is constant. Yeah you could RNG manip your info while creating a save but it’s probably easier, and doesn’t require you to start a new save, to RNG manip the manaphy egg. It’s just not quite hunting at that point

[@Ylaiah]

My god. Manaphy is one of the pokemon ive wanted since i was a kid but never had the chance to get because i didnt know how. Now i really want to shiny hunt it because it would make it worth that much more to me but idk if the time is worth it. Even Shiny Hunting Shaymin is a pain with all the things i gotta do otherwise. Should i go for it? (I got the Oak's Letter through a DNS method)

[@shinycollector]

Shaymin is one of the quickest, if that’s a pain you don’t want to do manaphy. I have patience and I’m used to slow hunts, but even I don’t want to do manaphy

[@Ylaiah]

ShinyCollector I’m very new to the Gen 4 shiny hunting scene so I’m still building my patience up.

[@mimi1883]

I finally bit the bullet and got shadows of almia. The hunt is on! Dns here I come 😎

[@shinycollector]

Best of luck!

[@chrishopp5998]

Can you rng the trainer id on the second cartridge to match the id of the manaphy egg?

[@shinycollector]

Probably

[@Innautico]

Can you transfer a shiny manaphy up into Pokemon HOME or does the game's legitimacy checks flag it?

[@shinycollector]

Yes it could transfer, there’s nothing illegitimate about this!

[@lifestylegaming90]

I need more information on the r4 please? What one do I get? (No longer coming up on the link) how do I download ranger on this r4? (I have never done anything like that before)

[@shinycollector]

Sorry, I can’t really advise, there’s a bunch of R4 knock-offs around. Most of them work, it’s just a chore to find the right kernal & firmware for them

[@lifestylegaming90]

@@shinycollector I understand. Thanks so much for the replay back!

[@potwatch9357]

what if I transfer them to an recent gen and do the same like sun and moon but the same prosses as with the 2 platinum games?

[@shinycollector]

Ashot44 I don't think you can transfer eggs from gen 4 to 5 so you're already stopped there. And this was fixed in gen 6&7 so whatever the egg was originally received on will be what it hatches as, and it will stay that way

[@RelaxingTurtle]

If I used an action replay to get the eggs will this method work or not?

[@shinycollector]

Not sure, since Action Replay can make things act differently than normal. I’d like to say yes, but I couldn’t confirm that