How To Snowboard Steep Double Black Diamonds

[@rileypartington]

The lean forward tip is really helpful. I always find myself leaning back. Also, leaning into each turn with your whole body is vital. Thank you for this vid 🙌

[@mtamashiro22]

Always fun to see the selfie stick shadow, but not the selfie stick.

[@noseymosey1556]

How does he edit it out??

[@mtamashiro22]

@@noseymosey1556 GoPro max. He made a video about it kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3fXp2Bql9dsm5o

[@jasonfrost5025]

Honestly that feature drives me insane. Like just leave it in. It looks so weird w/o it.

[@Trevor_bow]

Shadow people lol

[@Discus1185]

Same do

[@paddyd7642]

1. Stay on toe edge when possible 2. Emphasize front foot if it's not deep pow 3. Align your body to the slope as much as possible 4. Try to feel your edge and make sure you are right on top of it 5. Prepare for bumps 6. Understand that you will fall a lot if it's essentially steep mogul run 7. Get more comfortable with speed

[@SnowboardProCamp]

Great list 👍

[@andersbodin1551]

basically do nose butters

[@Yasukechosen]

How do you recover lol

[@1991atlantis]

​@@Yasukechosen just slide down on your but or belly the whole thing haha

[@jojosiwafan1076]

Yoooo that tip about not leaning back so far is so clutch I shared it to a homie after watching the vid on the chairlift and he instantly got better my mans didn’t slip out once when he kept his weight square Before I passed along that tip My friend was saying that it was because he hadn’t sharpened his edges in a while

[@lilkae101]

For me the hardest part to get down was going from toes to heels but those steps you said really help a lot! Nice one bro

[@SnowboardProCamp]

Awesome Matt!! Toes to heels can be a tough turn for sure!

[@liqiuicity]

Refreshing myself on some snowboard tips for this upcoming season out in Tahoe. Can't wait to step up from the blacks to double blacks this season! Thanks Kevin for all your vids. You seriously helped me get to where I'm at with my riding.

[@sirdudeness1386]

If you wanna get super radical and cray just straight line the whole double black diamond run....🤪😄😂. Real piece of advice when boarding or life in general, know your limits. You have to have the skills to pay the bills.

[@0ffaI]

5:00 This was really confidence inspiring actually. I'm used to ice coast double blacks, so I was too scared of hitting the powdery ones over West. Glad to hear it should be easier in theory 😅

[@aidenschwartz8282]

You’ve helped me improve so much in just one year of watching you, thank you so much for the awesome vids.

[@CanadianHardwoodPro]

I like this guy. He's so chill, seems like a decent dude. Thanks for all the vids man!

[@ManveerSingh510]

When you and the ski guy at 5:49 turned side to side at the same time, it was straight money.

[@Penguinchubb0]

Dang, good eyes

[@jamesmahoney1868]

This was a perfectly timed video for me. I'm a new lifty and new to boarding/skiing as well, they are having me run a lift on the Double black side. These tips will get me down there safely, thank you. Also I tell people that have no clue what they're doing to check out your channel. Hope it helps.

[@WantonMyth]

Did you draw the short straw? :)

[@Frank020]

Hope you don't get an icy day.. safety first. I would ride the chair down on bad days.

[@ajsorensen2585]

Great advice! Yeah I think with the heel edge - plenty of people have their bindings setup so their boots are over the edge, so if you're on a steep slope and lean back, high edge angle, you're quickly riding on your boots literally, aka spill city. On the toe edge your edge angle can be much higher, better balance - even if you have a wide enough deck to get a good heel edge without boots or bindings touching the snow, ice and crud snow make it even worse. Love the Whistler content, my favorite place to ride for sure! Hope you're all doing well out there!

[@SnowboardProCamp]

Good point on the biding hitting the snow on the heels. A wider board can help riders with larger boots and bindings.

[@zeuswrld9547]

I went on my first double black in jackson hole and slipped out for the longest 10 seconds of my life. It was so icy and there was barely any snow. I cried the rest of the way going down no joke.

[@wardwoerden]

Golden orca... looking forward to the review.

[@xlaz13x]

I’ve been riding the golden orca for a few weeks now and can absolutely say it is the best board I’ve ever ridden

[@doooooooooooood1420]

I literally make those boards! It’s so wild to see them

[@billycox475]

That selfie stick shadow witchcraft freaked me out. 🤣

[@claytonayers6393]

Nice video and great tips. I'm an east coast AASI snowboard instructor. I would also like to add for anyone reading these comments for tips to try retracting or unweighting the board by flexing your ankles, knees, and hips right when you release each edge and pivot to the new edge. This helps change edges quickly with a lot of balance. Once on the new edge slowly extend your ankles, knees, and hips to control that edge and check speed. We call the turns in this video "leapers" because you rise up and hop at edge changes. That's a good technique too, but may not be the best for all steeps. Hope this helps some of you out there!

[@nicowarren7307]

Why am I watching this I’ve gone snowboarding 2 times😂😂

[@SnowboardProCamp]

You’ll get there!

[@costoncheatham7025]

LOL - I was thinking the same thing. I’ve been like 5 times now and I’m just getting comfortable with going down most green slopes and some blue 😀

[@kels7286]

I went down the black diamond my first day 😶 almost died 😂

[@costoncheatham7025]

@@kels7286 no way! All I could do on my first day was heel it all the way down on the green. After about 3 times down, my thighs were burning like crazy and I was catching cramps. I can’t imagine going down black diamond the first day. I’m being careful - I’m old 😀

[@costoncheatham7025]

@Chris Benson I remember when I first started - just like that. I can turn heel and toe side now. I started just to bond with my son (24) and it was really like torture. My body was getting beat up pretty bad - took two days to recoup. But now I’m really starting to have fun - can keep at it for hours with no pain.

[@lesp315]

Can you show this in not so prefect conditions? Like super hardpack for example.

[@Skubae]

good video man, first time i tried a diamon i hit a tree, didnt give up on the sport, 2nd time going i got black diamond down and now in love with the sport!

[@malcolmroy5669]

Tried my first double black diamond last year. I did another one yesterday. I struggle so much with that toe edge turn that I often just end up horse shoeing back and forth on my heal edge at decent speeds. Let me tell ya, I need to get that toe edge turn down because by the end my quads are on fire XD

[@ethanclapp9696]

Hey it would make my day if you responed to this. I have been watching you for three years and i love your content. I did my first double a few days ago. Much love.

[@SnowboardProCamp]

Ethan! That’s awesome brother! Thanks for checking out the vids the past few years!! Hopefully see ya on the mountain one day!

[@stephenmendoza7745]

The question that comes to mind for me is if it's more fun to shuffle down a double black or ride quickly down a blue or green run?

[@ryanward5770]

Imo it's most fun to ride the level that you can do well. If you can run blues super well and fly down them but you're slow when going down blacks then blues are more fun. Blacks will make you better though so its important to do both. Eventually you will be as comfortable on blacks as you were on blues and then progress that onto double blacks

[@inmotion_snow]

another tip is to take long winded S turns, helps slow everything down and not pick up speed

[@jmunk91]

Moral of the story; Black Diamond runs are no fun on a Snowboard....unless powder is present.

[@sam_s_]

You really need quality snow for steep terrain on a snowboard. That said, first lines on deep powder on a double black may be the finest experience life has to offer.

[@shawnyg16]

Unless you love the speed!

[@j0ndav1s]

@@shawnyg16 And the pain!

[@spooty6493]

You normally don’t even get that much speed because your constantly turning if it’s that steep and there’s no powder

[@SgtTonka]

Black diamonds are great on snowboard what are u talkin about

[@Bad_Riders]

Thank you for taking time out of your day to address this Kev, is this a hint at a return to address the updates for the beginner playlist?

[@RobertoVillaLobby]

Great advice! Got my carving down, now this is on the list next visit to the Alpes 🙂

[@vivala1210]

Perfect timing! About to try some Diamond runs at Mammoth tomorrow. Thanks!

[@yuangchen5399]

What should we do to allow us go in the direction of the tip of the board instead of sliding down towards the fall line?

[@usachiropractic]

What size board do you use?

[@JR-Canada]

Thanks Kevin! These kind of videos are THE MOST useful of all that you guys make.

[@garrett8794]

"With a few tips I think you can do these runs with ease and comfortably" Me, who has snowboarded once in my life: *nods enthusiastically*

[@narrowistheway77]

Looks like you bought the Golden Orca, you have quite the quiver these days 🙌🏼

[@SnowboardProCamp]

I just borrowed it from a snowboard shop in Whistler called the Circle.

[@david92082]

I went with the 157 Golden Orca with Falcors. Working nicely in Pow.

[@SnowboardProCamp]

Good choice!

[@AndreasSchubertSnow]

Stay golden orca boy.

[@FromSimone]

Won’t be on a double black but this will help me on blues for sure 🥲

[@JaredPhillips]

That run looks so fun!

[@jasonfrost5025]

I like actually carving and going fast. Iono why people like this slow mogul stuff.

[@TheNecio27]

I went from not knowing how to Snowboard to NOW being able to go on double diamonds ALL thanks to Kevin's TIPS

[@amyrohr671]

LMAO

[@TheNecio27]

@@amyrohr671 whats so funny 🤨

[@cccEngineer]

It was just written funny. I can see the humor in it as well. It makes it seem like you went from not knowing how to snowboard to doing double blacks in a week.

[@TurntBucket]

this feels like a beginners guide. when ppl that should be riding double black should know all this stuff already.

[@MattCarl]

Awesome video! What’s your camera setup for this one? GoPro max? If so are you rocking the GoPro pole too?

[@henrygeorge3089]

Tips are on the money and perfectly in line with what you’d get on a private lesson. Would have been better had someone else filmed the riding though, and here’s why: Jump turns, although they feel safe, are something you want to get away from if you really want to ride 2X blacks like a boss. Learn to commit to each turn and ride them out to develop flow rather than constantly starting and stopping with jump turns. I couldn’t imagine trying to film myself using proper turns though. They are challenging enough without a selfie-stick in hand!

[@kuanhau4323]

Would be good to explain that toe sliding the start isn’t good to do often because it creates ruts for people who want to take their riding to the next stage and do it with flow. It can also cause icy patches making it more difficult and potentially more dangerous for those after you. Best practice on a groomed track the movements then take it into the db. Showing the next step of how to enter the db with flow would be a good target for people to aim for as the ideal

[@cw4115]

How much forward lean do you set in the high backs on terrain like that?

[@cameronbrill8276]

I’m probably gonna try my first double black this Friday, thanks for the tips!

[@jackgalle1421]

My first double black I went in on my heels and slid a quarter down the run on my heels because I was too out of control to turn because it was icy

[@amyrohr671]

same i feel like i have more control on my heel edge

[@kathyranmo]

Can you do one of these when there’s bumps? I’m in telluride and so many of the steeps also have bumps.

[@phildinovo]

Depends on the “bumps”. If they’re defined moguls, you need to plan your turns to follow the lines through the moguls, quickly alternating directions a lot. If it’s bumpy because it’s hard pack, you can still follow this advice but you need to keep your knees loose enough on the turns to absorb the terrain.

[@caitlinleanna5028]

another tip, before going anywhere near the really steep stuff practice going toe to heel back and forth with your weight forward pivoting on that nose, I've seen way too many people try steep trails when they can't do that basic move and it is essential to being able to stay in control.

[@kuanhau4323]

That’s true, if people don’t have the refined fore aft movement they will struggle and often over pivot. Or be too afraid to get their weight on the front leg

[@Frank020]

Honestly didn't know that...I need to pick up that skill. Like cruising around you don't know where you will end up.

[@Thekraziesars]

great video going to attempt my first double soon at blackcomb!!

[@SnowboardProCamp]

Amazing!

[@Loki-lh1gr]

The different levels of double blacks can very depending on the skill level of the park itself, the one in the video is a dub black cause of the rocks and small drops shown at the beginning

[@daltonv5206]

Guilty of leaning back while trying to turn through steep moguls. Ends up in a big ol butter and me washing out

[@SnowboardProCamp]

I had a bail yesterday not full committing to my turn.

[@kadenwood5292]

@SuzN dude, ur whole channel is just full of comments and replies telling snowboarding channels they suck. Go hit the slopes urself and teach some people there if ur so raw.

[@christophergruenwald5054]

Weight forward, swing the back around. I figured that out this last season on the slopes riding moguls. I did slip out a few times on my heal edge. I’ll have to try spending more time on my toe next season.

[@Tony-cp6vu]

I would love some tips on how to stop snowboarding heel to heel. It's feels so unnatural to go heel to toe and very natural and comfortable going heel to heel. I'm scared that if I keep snowboarding like this, I'll never be able to correct i

[@penelocent]

I had this same problem but with my toe edge the best way to do I think is to just keep trying your toe edge the more you do it the more natural it will feel. Good luck!

[@SnowboardProCamp]

Check out some of the toe turn and toe sliding videos in the beginner playlist. Will help a lot!

[@carsonsiegenthaler7765]

Your doing a great job, thank you for the helpful information and great content!

[@SnowboardProCamp]

Thanks Carson!

[@RealGoogleYouTube]

You suggested being more on your toe side than on your heels, but unless you switch legs at some point, doesn't it end up being close to 50/50 toe/heel?

[@spotless008]

@SuzN correct me if I'm wrong..but he was saying on black trails only try to spend more time on your toes than on heels (unlike the usual goal of 50:50 times) because you do have more control on your toes when the trail is so vertical (black)..And spending more time on your toes is as possible as spending more time on your heels (which most people who are learning do, they spend more time on their heels).. If you want to spend more time on toes, that just means to have longer lines (diagonal or similar) on your toes and more brief shorter lines on heels.. totally doable

[@spotless008]

Ron.. just do longer diagonal lines on your toes when on black trails..then it won't be 50:50

[@Frank020]

Looks hella steep. Longer boars harder to flip turn like that?

[@BlazerDuck07]

We have some gnarly double-blacks here on Hood.

[@Herestotheroc25]

Yes you do that shit was crazy

[@dj_thakur]

Another great video on the orca gold 😲😲😲

[@pandahz79]

what is the filming set up? what kind of cam the angles are sweet!

[@marcosperez2755]

Are u using torsional twist to initiate the turn

[@hionaking2530]

Cool to watch your videos man keep up the good work brother an hi from New Zealand

[@noam7911]

What is the action camera you're shooting with?

[@db17k]

golden orca babyyyy

[@robertganditoru3261]

Nice Tips! Keep up the good work! Nice black run, no ice = no problems:)). If(ice){ DO NOT try to brake; Go along and pray for the best; } else { HAVE FUN; }

[@alanconnor9952]

Thanks, great video. To the point tutorial and stuff that will be easy to remember on the hill. Looking forward to trying it out 🤙🏻

[@dragonsreingsupreme1]

Any tips for moguls on extreme single and double blacks?

[@charlesdove5046]

Bend your knees

[@charlesdove5046]

Also take your time

[@SnowboardProCamp]

Will have to do a mogul video! They’re tricky.

[@dragonsreingsupreme1]

@@charlesdove5046 well yes but I am trying to get better at path picking for fast mogul weaving instead of just picking all of the time.

[@basementeater]

It's all about the pump and turn when it comes to moguls. Pump over smaller ones and turn over and under bigger ones. If you can get a nice line you should be able to pop little airs over some of them as well and as you improve you can double them and it becomes fun. It's a lot of work and it takes a lot of energy but once you're used to it it's so fun to see others struggle why you cruise right along.

[@anttibuller1540]

noticed much difference with golden orca and normal?

[@christophermatthews555]

Looks like this was filmed last Wednesday. Pretty good bluebird conditions that day on Whistler and Blackcomb.

[@kathypos2828]

Great information, thank you! I'm making every mistake you mentioned. I'm working on riding stacked and holding my jacket. :)

[@guccimane2802]

Hey Kevin how do you ride in icy conditions

[@almightinesssuper3736]

are you able to run this with step on?

[@cookiecracker6266]

Great video Kevin.

[@TheJc16.]

great comment cookie cracker

[@cookiecracker6266]

@@TheJc16. great complement Jc 16

[@zppv5981]

Hey kev! What do you record your audio on? Sounds crisp! 👌

[@pocketdog8382]

I think the #1 mistake is when boarders go on runs that are too steep for their ability. They get too scared to commit to a turn (because it is scary) and they end up plowing straight down the hill on their heal edge thereby ruining the trail for others (I wish parents would instill this early with their learning children). If you do end up in this scenario and really can't make a turn then at a minimum you can zig zag/carve from one side of the trail to the other on the toe side edge (i.e. go regular to one side then switch to the other) You will have lots of control, won't get going too fast and you will leave some snow for others to enjoy. Then try a turn here and there when you feel it is safe.

[@cccEngineer]

Gotta remember though a lot of times it's impossible to know just how hard it is until you get to the steep part.

[@GrantTarvin3]

Hey man what jacket is that and size!!

[@goerdn]

How do you like the golden orca? Mine is in the mail

[@SnowboardProCamp]

Review coming soon!

[@Miggzybear]

How did you make the stick diaper

[@SnowboardProCamp]

It’s the GoPro Max that makes the stick disappear. Really cool camera!

[@Miggzybear]

@@SnowboardProCamp shhhh, thanks for the reply

[@Ape510]

What are your thoughts on traditionally waxing your board versus using DPS Phantom Wax 2.0? I just found out about this stuff but I'm not too sure about it.

[@richc4157]

I got the phantom 2.0 applied by mec 2 seasons ago and it is still working great. I think it is slightly more sticky than a super fresh wax when just standing i.e in the lift line, on wet spring snow - but barely noticeable. On the run it is fast and feels like the second or third day on a fresh wax. Basically its great so far even in spring conditions, saves time and money if you usually drop your board off to get tuned/waxed and avoids ever having that cats tongue stickiness of spring snow on an unwaxed board. I'm now working on sharpening my own edges so I never have to worry about shop tuning again. If I get another board I will definitely phantom again.

[@jagmorelife6250]

whats this run called on blackcomb

[@ChaseYokoyama]

Why am I watching this at 2AM if I live in Hawaii.

[@Zeneroth]

Side question, how are you removing metal from your selfie showing up

[@MeepMeep88]

Lol what happens if you just go straight down without turning?

[@DubWoodcock]

Hype beast golden orca... hows that thing ride?

[@philippeprovost3398]

Great video as always! Did you try the sims distortion?

[@SnowboardProCamp]

Not yet. Will look out for that one!

[@leogaming4663]

Dude that is not called “snowboarding a steep line” its more like just “decending a steep line with a snowboard”

[@AnthonyTalerico]

You beat me to it lol

[@axelgranzini6797]

You make a tutorial then 😂

[@Triippy]

Can you please do a review on the 3D boards Burton sent u !

[@ering3173]

Thanks for this! Great advice☺️

[@MakeThatChange]

Now I'm ready for heli skiing! :D

[@timroberts]

You’re definitely right about the conditions. It’s not fun navigating through an iced up mogul field.

[@jacob_1554]

Nice tips!

[@liamquigg4042]

Kevin can you teach me how to snow board?

[@liamquigg4042]

Hi

[@fchas15]

Ride the Couloir Extreme next! Antti Autti is a great inspiration!

[@dizgotti1355]

back hand for the control, for sure 😎.... good conditions can def make or break the day 🧊 ... 1 more tip, don't try it with a selfie stick on the first run 😅

[@emilianpopov9699]

Solid tips as always!

[@yuriyborodin2019]

Golden orca is super cool board

[@PappyP]

lmao tysm my coach always makes me do these steep runs and I just get terrified and heel it the whole way

[@harryhe]

how u like the golden orca, kevin.

[@SnowboardProCamp]

It’s sweet! Will have a review video up soon!

[@Biscuit1rl]

Whats a Double Black Diamond run? is it just a normal black run,? sry on snowboard/ski in europe.

[@basementeater]

It's the next difficulty up from a standard black diamond. Black diamonds are for advanced riders and double blacks are expert only.

[@edwardrb4642]

Don’t know if you guys noticed but I can’t see the GoPro stick but in the shadow of it

[@mrtrullz]

Gopro max

[@edwardrb4642]

Ohhh dang that’s cool

[@edwardrb4642]

But still thxs for the tip

[@michaelduha]

Good tips to safely get down a steep run. But I feel like if you have to watch a video to get down EX terrain you probably should go down them yet. You will end up snow plowing the side of the mountain off.

[@beano12343]

my insides start tingling when i get the slightest glance of this nightmare cliff