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[@dshappir]

1. I'm Israeli and I support the solution Cenk is proposing. In fact, I've supported it for decades 2. Cenk is correct in stating that the Israeli Right opposes this solution because they support settlements, and want to take more land 3. That said, Cenk is wholly glossing over the fact that this exact proposal was made to the Palestinians in 2000, 2001, 2003 and 2008. The Palestinians rejected it each and every time. I have no idea why Cenk thinks this time would be any different 4. Not only did they rejected it, but they launched violent attacks and uprisings each such time. This is why so many Israelis have moved to the Right. Because they've come to a conclusion that negotiations with and concessions to the Palestinians always end in violence 5. Special case in point: in 2005 Israel withdrew out of every inch of Gaza. Had the Palestinians transformed it into a successful proto-state (using the billions they received in aid) the pressure on Israel to do the same in the West Bank would have been overwhelming. Instead they elected Hamas, which started firing rockets at Israeli cities. And then did 7/10. 6. Hamas charter calls for the elimination of Israel and the killing of every Jew in it. They have never canceled this charter

[@Dan16673]

he is signaling, not actually thinking this could work

[@alyskabb]

Precisely.

[@mh8826]

while you are right that there should have been more effort from the palestinian side.. your revision of history is not surprising when it comes to peace deals.. Arab Peace initiative was proposed many times this century (initially 2002) with virtually all arab/muslim countries supporting it (along with the PA in the West Bank) even the US.. yes it was only Hamas that rejected it initially but certain groups within soften their stance as the Initiative was re-proposed time and time again... who didnt accept it? Israel.. who ignored it? Israel? peace is not a one direction path.. both sides need to be sincere so you trying to make it like one side derailed it is facutally false.. also.. the withdrawal from Gaza and how that mess came about is also incorrect.. giving a piece of land and effectively controlling everything from airspace to utilities to borders etc is not "withdrawal".. also.. you fail to mention (as even verified and reported in Israeli media) that hamas was actually pushed by the israeli govt to counter the PLO/Fatah.. its funny you mention the West Bank.. the West Bank has been relatively peaceful for decades now.. they do not have a charter calling for the end of israel.. what did they receive in return? mushrooming settlements and continued control.. if israel really wanted to make peace they should have propped up the West Bank as a beacon of what can be achieved if you are not hell bent on violence and stopped settlement expansion and have that area flourish freely... but it didnt and hasnt.. thus the palestinians have no example of any benefit to peace again.. mistakes and wrong have been on the palestinian side too.. but to make it out like its a one way street (as you have) is incorrect and the main reason why this mess has not resolved itself..

[@dshappir]

@@mh8826 first of all, I would be ecstatic if you were right. I would love for the Palestinian leadership (assuming there currently is one, other than Sinwar) to support a peace plan which matches Cenk's outline in this video. Unfortunately this is not the case, nor has it ever really been. The Palestinians were offered such a peace in 2000 and 2001 and Arafat walked away (and launched the Second Intifada), and again in 2008 and Abbas walked away. The Arab Peace initiative of 2002 was indeed a step in the right direction, but came too late with regard to the negotiations of 2000-2001, and didn't impact Abbas' decision in 2008. Most importantly, it effectively demanded the "Right of Return" for Palestinians, which as Cenk correctly explains, is a nonstarter for Israel. I didn't make it out as a "one way street". In fact I referred to the attitude of the Israeli Right before I even mentioned the Palestinians. That said, had the Palestinians accepted Cenk's suggestions they would have had a state long ago. They didn't and so they don't. And now, following 7/10, it seems further away than ever.

[@xkdjc94]

Cenk doesn't want peace. He is a Hamas spokesman in a suite. He wants to see Israel destroyed. He has spewed on his channel TYT countless of lies about Israel at a level that undoubtedly antisemitic.

[@NunYa953]

Apparently Cenk isnt aware of anything that happened in the 90s. 😂

[@mahamadoudiallo589]

He is. Neither side wanted peace in the past. Certain Israeli leader wanted peace and was killed for it. lol. Then Netanyahu propped up hamas as an excuse to grab more land. The past is messed up, they both need their state and stop dragging the world in this nonsense.

[@Snarkonymous]

Way to be completely obscure.

[@stevenobrien557]

Wow great counterpoint ​@@Snarkonymous

[@MrDragonorp]

​@@stevenobrien557the counterpoint is that Palestinians refused this exact deal Cenk told, like 7 times publicly, and twice as much secretly. even without Israel keeping settlments. they just dont want 2 state solution, they dont want peace. ask any Palestinian. people dance around the issue thinking Israel the problem. Survey done by the biggest Palestinian university, rammalah University, showed that when asked about 2 states 80% of Palestinians dont want it, 70% dont want 1 state, the other % is just a don't know. they even disagreed with a 1 state with a Palestinian ruling where Israelies and jews are living there as inhebitence but not Citizens. they just want the complete destruction and annihilation of Israel. its simple really

[@MarioPeeps]

Israel has not seriously entertained a peace offer since then

[@hughmungus01]

It's almost like cenk was born yesterday

[@tomergreenberg9398]

Awww so sweet he has no idea what he's talking about

[@YoniAiz123]

Good job Cenk, 76 years people from all around the world try to solve the conflict. You say it’s easiest conflict to solve and you can do it in a day👍🏻 sounds legit. You really understand the problem.

[@avenuePad]

Sorry, dude. Sorry that you lack the ability to decipher basic conversation. Cenk said it was theoretically easy, but then laid out in detail why it's so complicated. You're dumb on purpose.

[@user-hh2is9kg9j]

The problem isn't hard because it is complicated it is because one side has all the power and wants to take 100% of everything. The solution that Cenk laid out would give Palestinians only 22% of their historical lands and their country would be without an army and Israel would still say no to that.

[@Snarkonymous]

Way to completely miss the point.

[@BrandonWS324]

You just agreed with him without even knowing it.

[@davdonoghue]

You are aware that the US is the one country blocking any deals at the UN ?

[@victorkunin2333]

"It's so easy" Cenk - goes on to propose solutions that were tried since 1994 and failed miserably.

[@Snarkonymous]

You also missed the point.

[@HT-xt4cn]

When has cutting off the funding to Israel been proposed?

[@victorkunin2333]

@@HT-xt4cn This is an absolutely brilliant idea. US funding for Israel is the US obligation under Egypt-Israel peace treaty that US sponsored. So the idea of US pressuring Israel into a peace treaty by breaking US obligations to Israel under a peace treaty should really, really work!

[@HT-xt4cn]

@@victorkunin2333 It's funny how Israel gets the funding from the peace treaty as well as any other funding/weaponry it so desires! I'm sure if Egypt asked for more funding/weaponry whenever it was convenient for them they would get the same treatment!

[@Swiplys]

Failed because of Netanyahu and right wing Israeli (Jewish supremacy) agents who keep undermining every deal. This is why he is being investigated for corruption and his direct role in the assassination of former Israeli PM Itzhak Rabin

[@RobertSmith-lg7jp]

I think Cenk is pretty close with this. He knows that there is no solution that will prevent minor skirmishes from happening between these people.

[@sillydude8773]

"These people" this issue seems to give the dumbest most ignorant "people" the idea that they are somehow smarter and have the realistic take that "these people" can't seem to get. Look up the duning kruger effect my "person"

[@MrDragonorp]

he is so far off because he lies that palestinian will that the deal, but they wouldnt. survery showed it, 80% of palestinians dont want 2 states, 70% dont want 1 state, the other % just dont know. they even don't want 1 state controlled by them with Jews living there not as citizens (one of the questions asked). its absurd. they dont want in any constalltion to have anyother solution other then complete destuction of Israel its simple really

[@sreddie1]

He can't be more further from the truth.. unfortunately. Palestinians will NEVER agree to Jewish state at any borders at any conditions.. that is supported by facts. if he would be true, Israel wouldn't think twice, as a minority in this region, and agree with TRUE deal for peace. The only path for peace starts with deradicalization of their school system that will stop hating and deaminizing Jews, and acknowledgement of a Jewish state there...then we can talk about borders, terms, cooperation ect..

[@lgroots8691]

Huh?? It’s almost like cenk hasn’t been paying attention at all to the last 50 years in that region

[@sajedchreim7118]

No unfortunately cenk is not even close. This idea that Fatah can simply make a deal without Hamas is ludicrous. Like what the hell is he smoking. Hamas is not going anywhere. His statement about Hamas calling them terrorists shows this guy is a moron. Hamas have won so much popularity amongst the Palestinians both in Gaza and the West Bank. Think about it, fatah for the last 25 years, how many Palestinians have they negotiated with Israel for release? None. Hamas have time and again. Fatah are corrupt they don’t give a shit and the gazans will probably resort to fighting them if they attempt a takeover. Finally, he said Hamas has no leverage. Again, he’s wrong and it seems as though he’s not watching the conflict closely enough. At this current moment it would appear as though Hamas don’t have leverage but they do. To understand this we have to look at the broader picture. So you may ask , “what is Hamas’s leverage? Their leverage is showcased in their ability to avoid negotiations. Both make too make concessions. Keep their original demands in take. Again we must look at the entire picture. Israel are currently being destroyed both from the outside and inside. They are in such political, economic, and military turmoil. Their prime minister is at odds with his military head. He won’t accept any ceasefire, ontop of that he hasn’t been successful in his operation. He failed at every objective, kills his own captives whether on purpose or accident it’s the same. And worst of all his people are turning on him because they believe he’s prolonging this war to stay out of jail. Sonreally israel don’t have much leverage. Because we haven’t even spoken of hezbullah and the Houthis and the Iraqi and Syrian resistance. Hezbullah is not some scrub man. They are Israel’s biggest threat more than Iran. They also beat Israel in wars twice. They have the formula. And part of their war effort is to continue until the gazans achieve what they have shed blood for. And hezbullah hits Israel everyday it’s just our media doesn’t show you. I used to kinda like cenk. But he’s simply wrong here

[@maxehhh]

I dont know who this guy is but he has the history knowledge of a fly.

[@jacobcohen9205]

That's very generous of you, mate.

[@Basta11]

If you don’t know who he is then you’ve been living under a rock.

[@CrossOverNewz1318]

There’s no solution in religious warfare

[@Swiplys]

It's not religious as most of the Jewish people are secular and atheist. It's also not about Muslims because the IDF has been blowing up Churches all over Israel and Palestine. The problem is a little group trying to push Jewish supremacy.

[@ayushisharma162]

This isn't religious warfare. It's a land grab.

[@user_mll374]

Damn you hit the nail on the head!

[@CapnDavidMorgan]

Ya there haven't already been tons of peace deals that have been constantly broken

[@dg9334]

Israel never broke a peace deal with arab countries. There was never a final peace deal with Palestinians. The deals in the 90's were stages that would lead to eventual peace agreement and end of conflict. But that never happened because of the Palestinians and their demand for the "right of return", which was the last unsolved issue between the sides. Palestinians wanted to bring millions of arabs into Jewish population, which would cause huge bloodshed. And after Israel refused, Palestinians broke the deal and opened a second intifada with suicide bombers and terror attacks on Israeli citizens, and all peace talks stopped since then. So there was no final agreement and a peace deal. It was only peace talks. The real peace deals with arab countries still exist.

[@sreddie1]

He can't be more further from the truth.. unfortunately. Palestinians will NEVER agree to Jewish state at any borders at any conditions.. that is supported by facts. if he would be true, Israel wouldn't think twice, as a minority in this region, and agree with TRUE deal for peace. The only path for peace starts with deradicalization of their school system that will stop hating and deaminizing Jews, and acknowledgement of a Jewish state there...then we can talk about borders, terms, cooperation ect..

[@mouaadjaaidi5011]

@@dg9334 yeah. People tend to want to return to their stolen home you know? That happens... The reality is Israel should have never existed. That's a fact. But now that they exist, and have such military power, what should palestinains do is surrender and demand reparations to both England+USA and Israel, and create a prosperous country. Then, they should contribute to the restoration of Blad al-Sham, work with Sham population to get rid of the artificial countries they were forced to live in. I'm talking about Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Jordan, Palestine... They should restore their unity, realize that they were divided just to be weaken and be easily controlled and not get too powerful that the Zionist project wouldn't be possible. This is just pure facts.

[@alyskabb]

​@@mouaadjaaidi5011Most Israelis fled pogroms in Arab countries, Yemen, Iraq, the IRI, Egypt, Morocco etc etc... where are they allowed to live? ( The Jews previous homes are occupied, although you don't see many Jews going back to 'where they came from' to unalive the current 'occupiers'.

[@Speedofsound9]

Yeah broken by Israel lol

[@FreefromTyranny]

Cenk “its easy” Uygur

[@avenuePad]

Must be bliss being that obtuse. Cenk was being ironic. Theoretically, the way to peace is easy. Politically, it's far more complicated; and, Cenk outlined the complications.

[@MihoyMinoy-si8fb]

OF COURSEEEEEEEEEEE

[@evergreatest5821]

Pshhhh...right....😅😅​@@avenuePad

[@JSBPisgah]

True, he is making good points.

[@greybushMEproductions]

@@avenuePad "Hamas even said they'll get rid of that little thing where they say Israel has no right to exist" Stanky Ugyar. Tell me sir, how is it living in lalaland???

[@HardCorn12]

Sinwar won't sign any deal cause he waits to see how the war between Israel and Hezbollah will evolve and he wanna see if Iran will respond - don't be Naive - its not just Netanyahu(pain be upon him) who holds it back.

[@jimkeo6926]

I watched the Palestinian protest in nyc. They were chanting “we don’t want a two state, we want it all” 😂

[@on2a]

Fortunately they have the support of America to take it all… oh wait lol

[@jimkeo6926]

@@on2a America didn’t give Israel to Jews, it was the British 😂.

[@on2a]

@@jimkeo6926 they gave them the funding to bomb the $hit out of Gaza though

[@davdonoghue]

Could be worse - they could be the ones acting on that chant ? right ?

[@jimkeo6926]

@@davdonoghue what do u think is the best solution?

[@davidpallone9887]

I just love how confident and idiotic this guy is at the same time

[@ugk26]

It’s pretty mind blowing, you said that well.

[@ciro2001]

Pretty much like your statement..

[@TheFacelesssoul]

Cenk to the dispossessed: "Too bad; Tough luck!"

[@worldturt]

That is very typically how life goes

[@alienboss7150]

So you think if Israel leaves, Hamas will just stop attacking them? Wait……didn’t they already try that before?

[@roycohen.]

People falsely assume that Hamas is a rational entity.

[@S.Zimmerman5728]

Lex, you usually bring experts on your podcast. This guy knows absolutely nothing about the ME conflict. He’s just a guy with a (useless) opinion.

[@fredjohnson3336]

Who is more arrogant, Trump or Cenk? He’s absolutely unbearable how many times he say “I can do xyz…” No Cenk, you will not be put in charge of the negotiation for peace in Gaza. 😂😂😂

[@Jealod24]

I’ve been to Gaza and there were no sign of Israelis… because they left two decades ago.

[@EastlakeRasta7]

And yet Israel controls all the utilities and borders, sounds like a glorified internment camp, especially when you consider the land Israel is taking has aquifers.

[@alexandrekassel3794]

It's easy making peace with imaginary peaceful people.

[@Hiptoys]

You are wrong! That is not a solution Cenk

[@doresearchstopwhining]

Why?

[@blinoldluv]

@@doresearchstopwhining the solution is US should stop supporting it.

[@doresearchstopwhining]

@@blinoldluv It?

[@blinoldluv]

@@doresearchstopwhining lsrael of course.

[@user_mll374]

Ummm... Israel HAS NO LAND IN GAZA ALREADY. So what occupation of Gaza is this guy even talking about???🙄

[@odedrokachify]

Cenk-“it’s only up to israel and US”…,.ignoring the fact Palestinians leadership rejected the deal he outline repeatedly, and that Palestinians would still vote Hamas in West Bank if election held. Sure Cenk-Palestinians are not a side in this, and certainly have no blame, accountability, or room to improve

[@sginrummy88]

they rejected the deal because netanyahu keeps demanding unacceptable things. the latest ceasefire was rejected because netanyahu wants to divide the gaza strip into half. also, israel assassinated the hamas negotiator. how is that in any way acceptable or good for negotiations

[@GwrecksMachina]

No one falls for this bad hasbara anymore. Everyone knows it’s Netanyahu blocking the ceasefire

[@stevenobrien557]

But Hamas agreed! Well, they didn't actually agree but Cenk is confident that they "pretty much" did...

[@EliteExpat]

Israeli bot needs to stop lying

[@Ilyak1986]

Errr, sorry Cenk, but...fat whiff on this one. Israel already left Gaza in 2005, Gaza elected Hamas in 2006, and Hamas murdered Fatah in Gaza. Gaza got plenty of foreign aid to demonstrate that they could build a functional state (yes, there was an Israeli blockade on weapons, but a blockade and money is preferable to getting the snot bombed out of you), and they built a terror base. Hamas is not a rational negotiator. As for Fatah, well, they still have pay for slay, and their populace still despises the Israelis. Are the settlements a point of contention? Sure. But the West Bank populace in general hasn't exactly done themselves any favors either with their opinions, ideas, statements, pay for slay, etc. And FURTHERMORE, didn't UN article 80 establish that all the land west of the Jordan belong to Israel? So by *that*, then all the "Palestinians", which are simply remnants of Egyptians and Jordanians that tried to massacre the Israelis back in 1967 that those nations didn't want to take back, are the ACTUAL occupiers/squatters of the land, and indeed SHOULD be dispersed. Or would they rather Israel just bomb them to dust?

[@GolerGkA]

Wait, so what is in this deal about the most important thing to Israel - security? How will this deal guarantee that Jews will not be slaughtered there, as they have been for the last 200 years, from massacres of indigenous jewish communities (that have been living there for 2k years continuously, like the community in Hebron) up to today, when another truck full of explosives was found standing near a bunch of school buses. There is one thing Israel cares most: safety of it's citizens. Yesterday, 2 million israelis went out across the whole country, protesting to get the hostages back as soon as possible. This is the whole point of current war, to get them back, and the whole point of future policy: to never let that happen again.

[@nicholaslovett6248]

Cenk is dreaming in technicolor. Two state solution died in 10/07/23.

[@ransizzles]

This is the problem that people like Cenk dont want to accept. If America stopped supporting Israel and lend them fend for themselves, the whole Middle East will unite against Israel and slaughter millions. People are delusional to think if Israel stops fighting that all this is going to stop. Hamas is not interested in peace, its clear as day.

[@NoobZxReviewZ]

Couldn't have been said any better.

[@patrickwalker4159]

Security comes to Israel by giving the Palestinian at least the bare minimum that is owed to them. Occupying Palestinian land makes Israel insecure.

[@GolerGkA]

@@patrickwalker4159 Jews were most insecure when Arabs had all the land. And then the whole history of the conflict has shown that any goodwill Israel shows comes back to haunt it.

[@Robert-sp2ms]

Did we negotiate with ISIS, Cenk? How about Al-Qaeda? Is that enough for you to realize how juvenile your argument sounds or should I give more examples?

[@SkylarTheWriter]

Comparing Israel to ISIS is an interesting choice…

[@idansim1]

Cenk thinking that its straightforward to have peace is wild, it just shows how little he actually understands about the situation.

[@waterbottles4744]

How to solve it? How about stop inviting Cenk on for airtime. That would help...

[@lukebuondelmonte2559]

“Brother” - Cenk

[@sethbrooks9596]

Riiight

[@on2a]

When you can’t argue the points..

[@greybushMEproductions]

@@on2a "Hamas even said they get rid of that little thing where they say Israel has no right to exist" - Stenk Uygar 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣 When you miss the entire point....

[@noelmcinerney8411]

Cenk is nuts He's talking unjust peace

[@eyalnoiman]

@@greybushMEproductions they say publicly that they will repeat the massacre all over again

[@TaeglicheNarzisst]

Thank you! ❤

[@deforetime3094]

You didn't think about one thing... 2005.. what you suggested happened, Israel left gaza in 2005. In 2007 they chose hamas to lead them. We learn from the past

[@sdvanon1285]

Gaza became an open-air prison. Israel controlled who could enter or exit Gaza, controlled any and all goods (including food and medical supplies) that went into Gaza, would not allow Gazans to have an airport or harbour, controlled water, electricity and Internet connection, and regularly bombed the place. Americans fought a war to liberate themselves from the British government, and Americans had far more freedom, safety and opportunities than the Gazans had and have. Why do Americans deny Gazans true independence and opportunities while boasting endlessly about opportunities in their own country and celebrate their war of independence?

[@deforetime3094]

@@sdvanon1285 why Egypt dont give them water and electricity? Why Egypt have a border with them thet currently close to any Palestinians thet try to flee gaza? Gaza is kinda a county. an unclaimed territory thet was belong to many counties antil Egypt gave it to Israel in a peace agreement. Israel gave gaza independence in 2005. They elected Hamas in 2007. Israel own nothing to Gaza. They can support themself. It not Israel fault they did nothing with the land they have. Why they didn't improve their economy? Build themself better life and homes? Your mistake is to think Israel responsible to Gaza civilians. No. Gaza government responsible for their civilians. And Israel control the goods so they wont ship weapons instead of goods and supplies

[@deforetime3094]

@@sdvanon1285 why Egypt dont give them water and electricity? Why Egypt have a border with them thet currently close to any Palestinians thet try to flee gaza? Gaza is kinda a county. an unclaimed territory thet was belong to many counties antil Egypt gave it to Israel in a peace agreement. Israel gave gaza independence in 2005. They elected Hamas in 2007. Israel own nothing to Gaza. They can support themself. It not Israel fault they did nothing with the land they have. Why they didn't improve their economy? Build themself better life and homes? Your mistake is to think Israel responsible to Gaza civilians. No. Gaza government responsible for their civilians. And Israel control the goods so they wont ship weapons instead of goods and supplies

[@deforetime3094]

@@sdvanon1285 @sdvanon1285 why Egypt dont give them water and electricity? Why Egypt have a border with them thet currently close to any Palestinians thet try to flee gaza? Gaza is kinda a county. an unclaimed territory thet was belong to many counties antil Egypt gave it to Israel in a peace agreement. Israel gave gaza independence in 2005. They electedhamas in 2007. They can support themself. It not Israel fault they did nothing with the land they have. Why they didn't improve their economy? Build themself better life and homes? Your mistake is to think Israel responsible to Gaza civilians. No. Gaza government responsible for their

[@Speedofsound9]

Bro stop trying to Google search "why I'm right about israel" and read a fucking book. You're supporting a genocide. If I were being accused of supporting a genocide. I may just look into why.

[@Basta11]

The point is that they don’t want peace.

[@jenyarybakov]

Why do you even ask this question some american turkish guy that never been to the region? What is his qualifications to talk about israel ?

[@harelarmus]

this guy have no idea what he talk about

[@sebastiangutierrez1780]

K, why be completely vague then lol (??)

[@Ismael2019pop]

Possibly the worst plan I’ve ever heard to end this conflict. It’s full of deceit and methodically what the CIA would probably do

[@Snarkonymous]

Lol what deceit exactly?

[@on2a]

Netenyahu that you?

[@kaizen_monk]

Hey Lex please also invite Mossab " son of amas" as your guest, so we can listen to both sides perspective..

[@maybraik4733]

He is a spy that israel is paying . Don't beleive anything he said . The israeli intelligence tell him what to say and he follows . That's his job

[@TravellingFreak991]

That guys a coked up clown.

[@iditbes6962]

And mast interview Einstein Wilf, author of The War OF Return.

[@illumoari]

What a dumb comment, if you didn't realize by now that that guy is a puppet, you want to invite someone who has not a single palestinian backing him and whose been living off israel contracts after having spied for them... does that sound like a credible source to you?

[@ayoubzahiri1918]

they captured him, tortured him for years and brainwashed him, then trained him, he's a mossad product

[@SM-dl7ib]

They made this deal in 06 and Hamas happened. Nice try ccenk

[@solomonakoto5644]

All he has said is very true and will work, the issue here is he is behaving like Total War wouldn't work or isn't a viable solution. The whole framework he has concocted isn't appealing to Israel solely because total war is an option and is completely advantageous to them. Israel wouldn't take any deal that they believe isn't more advantageous than total war

[@brandonsvorinic]

'Put in Benny Gantz'.....wtf is Cenk talking about

[@redscar183]

welcome to the "wtf is cenk talking about" club

[@mulder1987]

He is just lying about all of it. There’s no deal. No one agrees on any of that. And Palestinians already have a state. It’s called Jordan. Another state would be just an Islamic state.

[@locybapsi174]

Okay so give West Bank to Jordan. Because its palestinian anyway

[@yeahwatevabro1118]

💯👍🏾

[@AHMEDHUSSEIN-i2h]

Fake Hasbara script. Palestinians have Palestine.

[@Dan16673]

there is zero chance anyone is giving up all the aid if a solution is found. conflicts breads earnings

[@aurochs1]

I love it how people who don't live here and don't even have 1 week long memory capacity wanna give us the magic solution for this conflict. Israel already did serious and stratigically devastating compromises towards "peace" in the Oslo Accords, when our insane leaders at the time brought the PLO leadership from exile to Judea and Samaria and Gaza, armed them and charged them with supressing terrorism, IDF left the cities of the West Bank and Gaza, and what we got was daily suicide bombing in public areas. The Oslo Accords also paved the way to the Disengagement from Gaza which result in rockets every year and the 7th of October. The fact is that the "Palestinians" (a Pan-Arabist/Islamist invention to fight Jewish nationalism, there was never such a people or ethnic entity) sole identity is in opposition to us, and their only purpose is to struggle to wipe us off the map. 67' was never the issue, and a "Palestinian" state in the "occupied" territories is just a springboard to advance towards the destruction of Israel. Also, I find it funny that a Turk has a problem with "occupation". Give Anatolia back to the Greeks

[@playafly131]

Hi friend, so what do we call the people who were in Palestine right before 1948? Does it really matter who they are as long as someone was there and kicked out for Israel’s formation? He calls that Ottoman Greek ethnic cleansing as well. He says his family likes to gloss over it and reminisce the good ole empire days, but not him

[@aurochs1]

@@playafly131 Hi, "Palestinians" are Arab immigrants from Egypt, Arabia etc. Third most common "Palestinian" surname is Al-Masri which means "Egyptian", likewise they have other such surnames that indicate where they arrived from. There is not this fantasy of a native Palestinian population that has been living here for hundreds of years. And so there is no reason to have another Arab state when they have over 20 of them. Arabs already massacred Jews before 1947 and the fact that they got kicked out because shouting "slaughter the Jews" and going out to do that didn't work out for them, is their problem. The Arabs who remained in the 48 borders enjoy full rights and even affirmative action that helps them get to well-paying jobs in society. What to do with Gaza and the West Bank Arabs, idk what to tell you, all I know is the giving up territory means they're with AK47s in near by Israeli neighborhoods soon after, or showering them with rockets. You can check what Zuheir Mohsen said about the invention of the Palestinian identity as a tool to combat Zionism, you can also see this video where a Hamas spokesman admitted everything I'm arguing in an interview to Egyptian TV: kzbin.infoztV1lH4hvBY?si=oNRDMHgxwMZuLfb4

[@HkMp5Guy]

I find it odd that he doesn’t hold the Palestinians accountable at all but says a peace deal relies on the us president or Israel’s people. Nothing about Palestinian people and Hamas

[@sebastiangutierrez1780]

Israel and the US have 97% of the power, and 8% of global support and only 48% of democrats while 63% think Israel is an apartheid state committing ethnic cleansing and genocide. Palestinians are just the European-occupied brown people du Jour, just like India, Native Americans, Hawaiians, Aborigines, Nigerians, South Africans

[@johndrake3472]

Cenk is gonna solve this for us - I’m waiting with baited breath.

[@mathewszulman7659]

Us won't cut the funding because of more than just money. If you think its just over a 100mill you dont understand.

[@JohnSmith-uc9cr]

Lex' lack of political challenge and serving more as a platform, is a missed opportunity when interviewing ppl like Cenk and Trump.

[@DanielNiklaus]

Gandhi would have given a very different answer. Naming only the Israelis and the US to solve the problem excludes all the other parties.

[@dunconny]

He's so clueless, it's amazing

[@Dvbsaletom]

Thank you America for supporting Israel all the way to victory

[@sashabozdaganian]

Bro has no idea what he's talking about, we already got out of Gaza ay 2005 and we got October 7 in return. Israel will stay in Gaza until the Palestinians will deRadicalise,

[@kunalreang10]

He's a Hamas spoke person in the west

[@illumoari]

What a baseless comment. Keep out of this discussion.

[@illumoari]

What a baseless comment. Keep out of this discussion.

[@KaboozeGlobalMedia]

Cenk has no authority to speak on these issues. Maybe he should commit to fast food reviews for kids

[@davdonoghue]

Better to listen to those who are sponsored by corporations or maybe those in mainstream who need "Political access" ? is that it ?

[@quintrankid8045]

I don't agree with Cenk, but he doesn't need authority from anyone, he can say what he wants. We have freedom of speech. And also, I don't want to be in a bubble, I want to hear what people I disagree with have to say.

[@daviddonoghue8256]

@@quintrankid8045 My thoughts exactly - soo many comments on here with "I dont like what he has to say because" .................nothing ? I think that there are bots here or something.

[@greybushMEproductions]

I think what you mean is he doesn't speak from authority. But yes, he doesn't have the knowledge or experience to presume to know how to resolve this enormously complex issue. And the way he speaks about Hamas demonstrates a gross misunderstanding of what they are all about.

[@Bsilbs]

His brother has strong influence within the Turkish government, the government of a country that has a large economy and is one of Israel’s biggest trading partners. I think he has some authority to speak on the matter 😂😂😂

[@jameslevitt7313]

If every Jew in the world can have a “ right of return “ then the indigenous people MUST have alright to return !!!

[@user-mf9mb5qh8x]

Which indigenous people are referring to? In U.S. they are already in the country. They didn't need a return. True they have been mistreated and have justifiable grievances and to that extend they are currently in the political process and not currently the subjects of a violent suppression or genocide.

[@jknowstheway1462]

alright to return!

[@abbabi1975]

They are NOT indigenous. Over 80% are from Jordan dummy. Germany, Japan, and most Arab countries have right-of-return models. Why focus on Israel? READ MORE

[@jameslevitt7313]

@@user-mf9mb5qh8x which people exactly are you talking about ?

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix5733]

Indigenous? The Jewish calendar is 5784 years. The Islam is 1400

[@neoneherefrom5836]

This guy should be president. He takes problems people haven’t been able to solve for decades and fixes them overnight. CANK 2024

[@kobikaicalev175]

this is either sarcasm (?), or the definition of a demagogue, do you actually see any actionable items Cenk's proposing?

[@neoneherefrom5836]

@@kobikaicalev175 believe in CANK and results will come CANK/ANA 2024

[@fastbreak0822]

Cenk is intelligent and explains his viewpoints well....... I like that dude has a view , backs it up, and sticks to his guns... Passionate dude....... Many peeps don’t like these qualities .... I do.... I also relate. The entire episode is great Lex not just this clip.... One x

[@amazinghappsandevents]

Bibi is sick... He needs to be sidelined.. Israel deserves better.. Palestinians should be respected and left alone....Another thing is that natanyahoo regime should be arrested and charged for war crimes..

[@SoothingSemantics]

Cent needs to share whatever shrooms he’s been eating

[@IRGeamer]

Lex and Cenk, a match made in wilfully ignorant hell...

[@JonKunis]

He would be taken so much more seriously if he talked like this whenever he’s challenged on shows like piers

[@michaelopoku4837]

This guy lives in a fancy world.

[@Doogle999]

There are a half million Israelis now in the West Bank, so how does Cenk suggest they be removed? 😂 Gaza was like 6-8 thousand people who were forced to leave, and that was difficult enough

[@barrykee8876]

I wonder why he says Israel should negotiate with their enemies (Hamas) to get to peace, but when Trump tries to talk with Putin or Kim Jon Un they/he calls him a lover of dictators. I guess double standards are fine as long as they can be used for your parties ultimate goals.

[@podawe8051]

We had Trump for 4 years already. What about him makes him a "wild card"? Maybe he is a little bit but not 80% chance. Also, who would you rather run a company, a billionaire who has been doing it his whole life, or Kamala Harris? I don't think a single rational person would say Harris.

[@Mogorman87]

A country isn’t a company you detard

[@HankSemoreButz]

💯

[@aaronc9532]

A country is not a company.

[@SupposeImRight]

Companies like Trump University, which scammed everyday Americans? Or perhaps the company where the state of NY found him liable for fraud (and where Trump didn’t fight back on summary judgment)? Or perhaps one of his bankrupt companies? Imagine caping for a billionaire. Imagine thinking that running to the defense of billionaires will materially benefit your life.

[@SiLoMixMaster]

Yeah the 'Trump will nuke Iran' part was where the TDS kicked in again. Cenk is the king of straw man fallacies.

[@joeanderson4508]

Cenk does not know the recent history or basic facts. For decades, Israel refused to engage with the PLO or Palestinian nationalism. To their credit, the Israelis recognized that a political settlement was necessary, engaged with the Oslo peace process, and brought their former enemies, the PLO, to the West Bank and Gaza. Prime Minister Rabin lost his life for these efforts. In 2000, a peace offer was pretty much agreed by the Barak government in Israel which would have allocated about 95% of the West Bank to a Palestinian state, with land swaps for the 5%, and all of Gaza, with a formular for sharing Jerusalem. To disrupt this process, Hamas and others launched the Second Intifada, with suicide bombings targeting buses, cafes, restaurants, etc. in Israel which killed over one thousand civilians. The Israeli electorate brought in Ariel Sharon to restore security, and his government built the walls and other security infrastructure in the West Bank. Sharon also ended the Israeli military presence in Gaza and pulled out Israeli settlers, but PLO rule was so inept and corrupt that they were overthrown in Gaza through a military coup by Hamas, which went on to build out its terror infrastructure. Netanyahu over the years has allowed funding to flow to Hamas as part of a divide and rule strategy, playing the PLO/Fatah off against Hamas, which allowed Hamas to consolidate its rule in Gaza. A political settlement is possible, with a modified version of the 2 state formula, but Hamas needs to be first defeated militarily. They will never allow a political settlement with Israel, only tactical pauses while they build up capability for further violence.

[@zicob2536]

Arafat should have taken the deal made with Ehud Barak!

[@dg9334]

Because a terrorist can never agree to peace, not his nature. An what was the issue that caused him not to take the deal? The right of rturn, on which he planned to bring millions of arabs into Jewish population. Like that would be a good idea.

[@AHMEDHUSSEIN-i2h]

There was no deal. Arab states deal of the century for Israel in exchange for recognition. Guess what happened...

[@illumoari]

Ah your idea of peace is humiliation ?

[@zicob2536]

@@illumoari you have no idea what was offered.

[@illumoari]

@zicob2536 i do know because i followed camp david negotiations, contrary to you and your thieving ancestors I dont believe i was chosen to steal ppls things. You should go back to whatever country they came from.

[@MendeMaria-ej8bf]

No right for Palestinians to return? Only for Jewish people?

[@abbabi1975]

It's controlled immigration. Like Germany, Japan, Korea, and pretty much every Arab country. Are you okay?

[@Avi-x2r]

We want them to return. To Arabia.

[@MendeMaria-ej8bf]

@@Avi-x2r Arabia? Where is that?

[@kingofclematis4039]

This interview was a mistake.

[@ciro2001]

You're a mistake..

[@madara868]

@@kingofclematis4039 why?

[@Dan16673]

its not meant to be solved. too much money is made on the conflict

[@DavidCraig-hd1rj]

“All it takes” is to get Bibi out…since that hasn’t happened in 20+ years (apart from a small stretch that barely counts) it’s not really that easy

[@MrDragonorp]

if it doesnt count then why do gaza is in the news so much ahahah. Gaza strip is not a small territory compared to the judea and sumeria territories

[@alyskabb]

Bibi out, I would agree, BUT not replaced by Khamenei'.

[@DavidCraig-hd1rj]

@@MrDragonorp I don’t think you understood my comment. I’m not talking about Gaza, “a small stretch” is referencing time, not a geographical location. I was saying Bibi has held onto power for a long time

[@gilbaz]

This is completely disconnected from reality ... he doesn't know history, he doesn't understand the situation on the ground in Israel and he definitely doesn't understand how to negotiate in the middle east. Cenk is so far from reality but talks with so much confidence... this is the worst kind of stupid

[@kingpic]

Naive and not practical. Please host better thinking people.

[@daniskiba-ne7ve]

What about Iran?

[@SuperPerfectMan]

Yeah he somehow forgot about Iran who gave Hamas all this money, power, training it’s not like at peace the Hamas guys will just go back to their regular job as lawyers, carpenters or doctors nvm running a business? No their sole existence and founding is from Iran who desperately don’t want Israel to make peace with the other Arab countries which would make Iran to lose influence…

[@marclassman311]

I appreciate his concerns and ideas, however, the conflict digs much deeper. So I’ll ask a “simple” question to propose an analogy: Did the Emancipation Proclamation of 1863 eradicate slavery and racism?

[@watersandblue6001]

cenk has no clue.

[@madara868]

Do you?

[@tomasromero9573]

It's easy just to spend more than APAC's 110 million for 20 billion return. 220 million for 40 billion return for Palestine!

[@platinum5168]

i cant agree with every bit he said but he made plenty of sense during the first half of the video

[@vitaminboss]

No mention of freeing the remaining hostages.

[@on2a]

Hate to break it to you.. Satanyahu doesnt care for them

[@CliveJordan-e1q]

​@@on2aand hamas cares for them that's why they kidnapped them???

[@laizerwoolf]

@@CliveJordan-e1q but what's the use of hostage if you can't make a deal though?

[@avishaidavis6038]

​@@laizerwoolfWhy would Hamas HAVE hostages? Why would they kill 6 of them from close range before fleeing?? This it NUTS

[@greybushMEproductions]

It's the Stank...

[@calvineaton8261]

Trump and the aborham accrords had all this settled.

[@fatzlebowski1549]

Cenk is sounding rational on this. It's just a shame he is such a liar.

[@Mogorman87]

Name one lie

[@HankSemoreButz]

@@Mogorman87that Trump would lose the election in a landslide in 2016…

[@TroyJScott]

@@Mogorman87 Cenk lies when he says Trump being re-elected will end democracy. That’s horse shit

[@ndadikpa]

He speaks as if israel did not give the Gaza strip to Palestinians for peace...and they elected a hard-core govt...dug tunnels, brought in missiles and have been shooting at israel since. The Philadelphia corridor is how missiles come into Gaza so how does israel give that same corridor back to Hamas! Terrible situation. Israel cannot give the security situation of the Westbank...neither the Philadelphia corridor... But we might be wrong

[@richarddefortune1329]

I'm sure you're calling him a liar because he called Donnie Boy a big liability.

[@Edro1973]

There is no deal past or future that is going to bring peace to that place.

[@xkdjc94]

Lex, you seem to bring a lot of Jew haters on your show like Cenk Uygur without telling your audience about their background. Don't appreciate that.

[@reliveit.film.productions]

Not complicated? No one will leave Gaza until the hostages are released

[@MarioPeeps]

Cenk always speaking fax

[@AhmadAli-wy2lw]

This man wants Palestinians fight each other. You have to educate yourself better on the question of Palestine if you care for Palestinians.

[@brentriley4911]

Last Dec. Hamas proposed Palestinian elections asap after a ceasefire.

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

Sorry, Lex. So far, the ONLY person who I find undeserving of trust is Cenk. He's a sham artist (and a bad one at that).

[@Woke365]

I demand Israel give the Palestinians land. I demand Israel stop the land robber settlements.

[@samienaamien7038]

LEX SHOULD RE-WATCH HIS OWN FACIAL EXPRESSIONS WHEN HE INTERVIEWS PEOPLE FROM THE MIDDLE EAST. YOUR FACE SAYS EXACTLY WHERE YOU STAND, LEX, WHATEVER YOU MAY SAY...

[@MendeMaria-ej8bf]

I mostly agree with Cenk Uygur's insights and positions. ❤

[@TheArabDemocrat]

For a long lasting peace, there needs to be a modicum of justice. Cenk proposal does not guarantee the requirements for a long term peace. It will last as long as the balance of power is in the favor of Israel. There need to be either 2 states solutions along the 1967 border and a graduated rights of return of Palestinians (20-50k per year) or a one states solution where all are equal.

[@SuperPerfectMan]

Yeah peace in the Middle East is just a tweet away, maybe an email perhaps a phone call but main point is that’s easy. How stupid is this guy? And he just forgot about Iran?

[@sean4060]

There will never be peace

[@quintrankid8045]

Never is a very long time.

[@johnboydTx]

​@@quintrankid8045 Beginning of Written Record so far 🤔🤷 ... Long Time

[@Hellon1832]

As long the Muslims trying to occupy Israel, no. We need to fight the Muslim occupation

[@paulywalnutz5855]

you end it by pulling all support for israel and offering to help them relocate back to native lands in eastern europe or brooklyn and iof they refuse you allow iran and the arabs to have there way with them

[@briandavidsuder8319]

What I come to understand is all information starts with ‘What’s the source’? Then ask what’s the agenda of who is sharing. That will dictate the narrative from there.

[@belovedbattlesword2383]

Would I let a billionaire successful businessman be run my company? Probably

[@patrickwalker4159]

The point is that he has only ever worked for his dad and himself, and businesses of his have been bankrupt six times. Many business people wouldn't touch Trump solely because of his erratic behaviour. It doesn't matter how successful he might be, he would be a massive headache for any employer.

[@ericfromeng]

@@patrickwalker4159 Imagine thinking you could become a billionaire without some of your businesses failing along the way. Brainiac take.

[@patrickwalker4159]

@@ericfromeng The real take there was that Trump is erratic and that some business people may not trust someone with their business who has been bankrupt on several occasions.

[@vitaminboss]

There's absolutely NOTHING successful about Trump and his horrific track record in business. After 40 years of failures he made it big portraying a phony successful person and then capitalized on the TV show and his newly built fame. No different than Kim K, or Kanye.

[@diggerman00007]

#BDS...LONG LIVE PALESTINE

[@vj3337]

"America stop funding THEM" ? Who decide that? America is there to fund THEIR state. When and how much America send THEM decide by THEM.

[@mrt445]

The majority of Americans do not want their tax money to go to Israel or Ukraine. I certainly don't.

[@jenkrash8122]

4:90 egypt only did peace hen they could return land that they lost. they know that they will get it back only with peace. they tries 4 times before.

[@marcheezy.]

Re CEO, you have to include the only other choice. So, my answer is yes. If the Dems don't field a new candidate, I would hire Trump as CEO of my company instead of Kamala.

[@xenocromium]

Most realistic take i've heard so far

[@michaelcavella4597]

most simplistic.

[@MrDragonorp]

most Idiotic, because Palestinians just dont want a peace deal, its simple. they will not accept, they dont want it. I also agree with this peace deals, majority of Israelies do. but the majority of Palestinians diagree, they disagreed 7-10 times only publicaly who knows how much disagreement secretly