How to solve the exponential equation x^ln(x)=2 by using logarithm

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@moeberry8226
@moeberry8226 Жыл бұрын
No solution for question 2. Your function is actually just a straight line y=e with a little domain restriction so the line y =2 is always below it and most importantly parallel to it and therefore never intersect. You have two holes one at (0,e) and the other at (1,e). And obviously the domain is (0,1) u(1, infinity)
@Luke-rb8dh
@Luke-rb8dh Жыл бұрын
Proving that this is a straight line, you can do x^(1/lnx)=x^(lne/lnx) = x^(logxe) =e
@twelfthdoc
@twelfthdoc Жыл бұрын
For the given equation, we can take the log of both sides use logarithm rules to bring the 1/lnx power down to the front. Unfortunately the product of lnx and 1/lnx causes cancellation down to just 1 and we are left with the equation 1 = ln2 which is a contradiction. Therefore, the equation x^(1/lnx) = 2 has no real solutions (despite how many times an engineer will tell you e and 2 are close enough).
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 Жыл бұрын
x^(1/ln(x)) asks what to the power of ln(x) equals x. But we know that e to the power of ln(x) equals x, so x^(1/ln(x)) = e, for all x.
@speaker_of_the_house66
@speaker_of_the_house66 Жыл бұрын
For all x > 0, x =/= 1. You still have to make sure the function is defined at that point
@ronycb7168
@ronycb7168 Жыл бұрын
Can you make a tutorial on how to graph tricky fuctions like those.. Thanks!
@اميرمحمد-ث4ك5خ
@اميرمحمد-ث4ك5خ Жыл бұрын
in last step you can bring the roots up and delete the e with the ln to get 2 in root and -1over 2 in root
@darkahmedp
@darkahmedp Жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic channel iam from egypt and have 12 and half years old and do calculus with this channel, thank you very much,with arabic شكرا جزيلا.
@dihey4689
@dihey4689 Жыл бұрын
X to the 1/ln X is e as x approaches infinity and we know by the fundamental theorem of engineering that e = 2 so X is infinity
@leonardobarrera2816
@leonardobarrera2816 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, actually, I need that for my homework You are amazing!!!!
@gregorkowalski1032
@gregorkowalski1032 Жыл бұрын
Love it.. But best of all is him playing in perfect way with red and black pens... Absolutely fantastic 😍😍😀
@odysseus9672
@odysseus9672 Жыл бұрын
Even better: prove that if we define the binary operator ~ by x~y = x^ln(y), then it is commutative (i.e. x~y = y~x). Likewise, prove that x~(y~z) = (x~y)~z (i.e. it's associative) and x~(y*z) = (x~z)*(x~z) (i.e. it's distributive across multiplication). From this, show that there is an infinite series of commutative and associative binary operators and that each one distributes across the binary operator that comes before it in the sequence.
@ultrio325
@ultrio325 Жыл бұрын
Assuming x is in the domain of ln, lnx/lnx=ln2=>1=ln2=>False. Thus, our assumption is false, and x is not in the domain of ln. Therefore ln(x), 1/ln(x) and x^(1/ln(x)) are all undefined, meaning the given cannot be true, i.e. the equation has no solutions.
@Spookyy6
@Spookyy6 Жыл бұрын
Bonus question: let X = e^a Substitute into the equation: (e^a)^(1/ln(e^a)) = 2 (e^a)^(1/a) = 2 By rules of exponents, that is equal to: e^(a*1/a) = 2 e^1 = 2 or e = 2 Since e is not equal to 2, the equation has no solutions.
@chipan9191
@chipan9191 Жыл бұрын
For x^(1/ln(x)), this can be reduced by putting it in the form (e^ln(x))^(1/ln(x)) which is e^(ln(x)/ln(x)) which reduces to e¹ which is e. Only caveat is that x>0 & x≠1, but the only real solutions at all points if this expression is e. That means it cannot equal 2.
@andresromero488
@andresromero488 Жыл бұрын
I saw some answers saying that x^(1/ln(x)) = 2 has no answer. And thats true, but almost all of them are incomplete. They only consider the real numbers, but, what if there was a complex answer? In complex numbers it is not always true that ln(a^b) = b*ln(a). For example, e^(3*pi*i) = e^(pi*i) = -1. And if ln(a^b) = b*ln(a), that implies that 3*pi*i = pi*i and obviously that's not true. And most of the answers I saw use this property. One solution that I think is more complete is this: For complex numbers, by definition, a^b = e^(b*ln(a)), where ln(a) means the "principal value of the logarithm" (Ii is similar to the case of square roots of positive numbers, where the "principal value" is the positive one). So for all numbers for which the function f(x) = x^(1/ln(x)) is define (all complex numbers except 0 and 1), the value of it is: x^(1/ln(x)) = e^(1/(ln(x)) * ln(x)) = e^1 = e Now we can afirm that the function f(x) is constant and its value is e. Therefore, there is no x such f(x) = 2. So there is no solution.
@greenforest9432
@greenforest9432 Жыл бұрын
Power of ln(X) on both sides. We have then : X = 2**ln(X). Then the ln gives the expression : ln(x) = ln(x)ln(2). X =/= 1 because we cannot divide by 0. So we can simplify by ln(x) in both sides : 1 = ln(2) which is preposterus. Then the equation has no solution.
@a_man80
@a_man80 Жыл бұрын
I have an equation, can you solve this: x•(x^x)=x+(x^x)
@fedebic5443
@fedebic5443 Жыл бұрын
That last x^(1/lnx) is just a fancy way of writing e, still very cool video as always!
@dhwaneelkapadia3265
@dhwaneelkapadia3265 Жыл бұрын
from the second question, how would we solve (lnx)^x = n where n is any number
@orlandot6
@orlandot6 Жыл бұрын
How do you know that the graph is gonna look like that?
@Kanal263
@Kanal263 Жыл бұрын
No solution for question 2, because ln on both Sides is Equal to 1 = ln(2) e = 2 and thats Wrong.
@guitarttimman
@guitarttimman Жыл бұрын
e^sqr(ln2) = x
@felina3581
@felina3581 Жыл бұрын
How did you graph that in your mind
@max-hi1bk
@max-hi1bk Жыл бұрын
I dont understand the first step, how can lnx to the power of lnx be lnx times lnx? Like 4^4 isnt 4x4
@teamzumali2914
@teamzumali2914 Жыл бұрын
I used lambert function to solve the first one, does it work?
@temujnbn9456
@temujnbn9456 Жыл бұрын
I come up with this equation: logx(5x)=2x/5 Can you solve for me
@SuperYoonHo
@SuperYoonHo Жыл бұрын
Thanks MR BPrP SLOW
@darkahmedp
@darkahmedp Жыл бұрын
Phi,it has no solve, because we get in for other sides and with some maths we will get in(2)=1,that's mean 2=e.
@ruilongsheng2845
@ruilongsheng2845 Жыл бұрын
lnx=√ln2, x=exp(ln2)
@OBGynKenobi
@OBGynKenobi Жыл бұрын
Why is lnX*lnX= (lnX)^2, but sinX*sinX = (sin^2)X ??
@ezecattalin8
@ezecattalin8 Жыл бұрын
e^(±√(ln(2))*i)
@colinjava8447
@colinjava8447 Жыл бұрын
Got it right, I'll try the harder one.
@spektator5418
@spektator5418 Жыл бұрын
haha nice ending question I tried taking random samples before trying anything and the answer was always e then I tried graphing the function and its litterally |y|=e there is no solution!
@SuperYoonHo
@SuperYoonHo Жыл бұрын
last question 1=not ln2
@hac1_ahmet
@hac1_ahmet Жыл бұрын
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@timtsai6860
@timtsai6860 Жыл бұрын
右邊那隻是茶里的玩偶嗎?
@adelitogd
@adelitogd Жыл бұрын
YOO I ACTUALLY GOT THIS CORRECT LETS FRICKING GOOOO
@sohampinemath1086
@sohampinemath1086 Жыл бұрын
Fun one
@aug3842
@aug3842 Жыл бұрын
x^(1/lnx) = 2 ln(x^(1/lnx)) = ln2 1/lnx * lnx = ln2 1 = ln2 however 1 ≠ ln2 => no solutions
@mrlitty8330
@mrlitty8330 Жыл бұрын
Wait what? For the question at the end of the video, I got 1=2 because I tried taking the ln of both sides but the left side canceled out to 1.
@Ni999
@Ni999 Жыл бұрын
1=ln2 means that it's a trick question, there's no solution. Remember - x = e^lnx so x^(1/lnx) = (e^lnx)^(1/lnx) = e for x>0 and x≠1 so e ≠ 2.
@p12psicop
@p12psicop Жыл бұрын
x^(1/lnx) = e
@leeshaocheng239
@leeshaocheng239 Жыл бұрын
I think the answer might be complex solution
@muhammedfuadpt5137
@muhammedfuadpt5137 Жыл бұрын
There will not be a solution for the last question
@finmat95
@finmat95 Жыл бұрын
wow...
@fatihsrk
@fatihsrk Жыл бұрын
W(2) :-)))
@NurHadi-qf9kl
@NurHadi-qf9kl Жыл бұрын
Ln x=1 ; x=e
@social6332
@social6332 Жыл бұрын
very funny question.
@velk_wanggoudan
@velk_wanggoudan Жыл бұрын
ez one babe
@muhammedfuadpt5137
@muhammedfuadpt5137 Жыл бұрын
First
@leonardobarrera2816
@leonardobarrera2816 Жыл бұрын
Oh, lots of luck sir!!!!
@godturtle6274
@godturtle6274 Жыл бұрын
the only solution would be e so 2 doesn't worl
@starpawsy
@starpawsy Жыл бұрын
If I cant solve it in two minutes, I move on to another video. Bye.
@douglasdeoliveiracardoso9345
@douglasdeoliveiracardoso9345 Жыл бұрын
I didn't understood how e^ln=1
@andresromero488
@andresromero488 Жыл бұрын
By definition of the natural logarithm. The logarithm of a number x to the base b is the exponent to which b must be raised, to produce x. That is b^(log_b(x) = x). The natural logarithm is the logarithm in base e. So ln(x) actualy means log_e(x). That means that is the exponent to which e must be raised to produce x. In other words, e^(ln(x)) = x
@douglasdeoliveiracardoso9345
@douglasdeoliveiracardoso9345 Жыл бұрын
@@andresromero488 didn't get yet, I already knew about that definition. what I want to know is the proof that it is right, the derivation
@guitarttimman
@guitarttimman Жыл бұрын
Notice that I didn't need to watch the video.
@sourovdas7883
@sourovdas7883 Жыл бұрын
heha
@Claytonbeastboy
@Claytonbeastboy Жыл бұрын
No solution. When you cancel everything put you get 1 = ln(2)
@Claytonbeastboy
@Claytonbeastboy Жыл бұрын
Oh holy crap I guess that's just e huh
@at7388
@at7388 Жыл бұрын
Why are you boring us with elementary school assignments?
@СВЭП-и4ф
@СВЭП-и4ф Жыл бұрын
I solved by substituting x = 2^t, which leads to 2^(t^2) = e, => t = (log2(e))^(1/2), => x = 2^(log2(e))^(1/2), interesting that plugged into calculator both my answer and answer from video lead to 2.29918476743
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