Thanks for video I had exact same issue with a new golf i just bought and got some new wheels, had annoying vibration at 60mph +. I had tires rebalanced and was afraid i had bad wheel, came across your video and was inspired to get solid aluminum rings, it took care of vibrations completely, drives great now Thanks again
@jvbfamily86138 ай бұрын
Hey got the rings but still getting vibration do u think they didn't balance properly
@its.Andy1 Жыл бұрын
Some mechanic shops definitely need to watch this video. Funny. I literally just got new aftermarket wheels installed today and one of the guys that swapped my tires from my Gramlights 57DR’s to my new Konig Hypergrams took off my hub centric rings and said “hey whoever installed your old wheels decided to put an extra center ring on your hubs.” And I was like 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️bruh it’s not extra. They’re SUPPOSED to be there. So I told them to redo it.
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
Oh wow! Dumb guy there for sure 😅
@SalimFromATL7 ай бұрын
It's unfortunate... Some mechanics just do the bare minimum and want to just get paid without doing extra, etc. Kudos to the ones that go the extra mile.
@boost331Ай бұрын
Waste of money. The konigs are LUG centric and not HUB centric. Using the 60 degree tapered lugs will ensure the wheel is centered on the hub. It is literally impossible for them to not be properly centered if the lugs are all properly torqued. Very few cars need hub rings and it is only those that use wheel bolts or use flat lugs or washers.
@its.Andy1Ай бұрын
@@boost331 dude. You want the weight of the car to be on the hub. Not the studs. Usually the diameter of the bore on aftermarket wheels are larger than the hub. Thats what the hub centric ring is for, to compensate for the different size.
@boost331Ай бұрын
@@its.Andy1 Nope. The weight is never on the hubs. Its there for centering. That is the biggest BS myth that people fall for here. 90% of the hub rings you see people using and even wheel shops installing are made of cheap plastic. You trying to tell me that little piece of plastic that you can crush with your hand is supporting 3000lbs+ off the ground? You fell for it.
@user-qv6sk6wy3k3 ай бұрын
I just had new aftermarket wheels and tires put on my new Tiguan, around 50 mph I got the shakes and went away until around 70mph. After multiple road force balancing from discount tire the issue never quite went away. After watching your video I replaced the plastic ones with solid aluminum and my vibrations went away. Thanks for the video.
@BrosFOURRSpeed3 ай бұрын
Nice glad to help!
@TheWorldOfKelАй бұрын
Glad I see your post, I'm looking into buying a Tigaun and want to go with the Sparco Terra Rims and it says I need the centering rings. Never used them but looks pretty straight forward install
@flyguy08124 күн бұрын
That’s crazy because I have a 2023 Volkswagen Tiguan S and I’ve had some 20 inch wheels and tires brand new with hubcentric rings and a roll force balancing and I never stop the vibration. It has speed around 70 to 75 mph.
@Tonybad8769 күн бұрын
Just put some 20s on my Tiguan and it’s vibrating at 100km/h. What size hub rings did u buy to resolve this issue???? Please help
@steveb8897 Жыл бұрын
You literally described all the symptoms I've been experiencing.. got new tires, new suspension, wheels balanced etc, couldn't find the issue and remembered I have plastic hub rings from 15k miles ago. Can't wait to get in there and see whats been going on then replace with metal ones
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
It should make a huge difference for you!!
@HPX584 Жыл бұрын
Did it fix it?
@steveb8897 Жыл бұрын
@PunjabRockstar15 tbh I'm not sure 100% what the cause was, here's why.. when I went to get hub rings replaced, shop found one of the wheels slightly bent. Fixed the bend and with new hub rings, all vibrations went away.
@Surveillance-10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, this fixed the severe vibration I had on my Lexus GS after getting new wheels. I bought the same ones you linked, installed at discount tire, and solved.
@BrosFOURRSpeed10 ай бұрын
Nice! Glad to help!
@istudyyou21309 ай бұрын
I had the same issue last week I got a 2011 GS 350 Lexus on 22 inch wheels. And my car was shaking. Really bad at 65 miles an hour. Now I can take it to 85 with no vibration.
@itsjustjonnoh4 ай бұрын
Bro! Thank you for this video.. I just bought some new rims and tires for my truck and didn't even think of this. Just bought some solid ones now before the shop installs my whole setup. I'll just sell the plastic ones. Very great video. Thanks again.
@BrosFOURRSpeed4 ай бұрын
Nice! Glad to help!
@jccnguyen Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video, you confirm that I made a good call. I put these into my custom wheels thanks to the shop's owner advice, solid alloy ones. Never seen those plastic ones by the way.
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
Yeah I had solid polyurethane before and they were fine. But I'd definitely make sure you stick with solid good ones! Crazy how big of a difference it made
@804MRMAN5 ай бұрын
You'll regret the metal rings. They'll eventually melt to the hub or wheel center bore. With or without anti seeze
@ForestCounter2 ай бұрын
How would it be possible to mount the wheels off center, when using the correct bolts for the wheel? How can the hub help center the wheel, unless it's a press fit? I can't deny your experiences. It just doesn't make sense to me..
@britpoper3 ай бұрын
I agree with what other people have said.Plastic isn't going hold your wheel in place or stop any vibration. They are simply for making it easier to line your wheel up. The wheel studs do all the work.
@BrosFOURRSpeed3 ай бұрын
Then how come the vibrations went away going to the solid aluminum ones vs the plastic ones? Also read through the comments. Tons of people installed solid aluminum ones and every one of them said that stopped the vibration compared to plastic ones or not having anything. Why do you think the factory hub has a solid metal lip to correspond the the recessed portion in the factory wheel? The solid connection eliminates vibration.
@britpoper3 ай бұрын
It's like mounting an engine with plastic mounts . How long do you think that will last? You need steel or aluminium to hold something in place not plastic. I do agree that they make it easier to line your wheel up but that's all.
@BrosFOURRSpeed3 ай бұрын
@@britpoper Yeah the aluminum rings hold the wheel in place perfectly centered while driving so there isn’t vibration. Plastic rings allow some give that the bolts alone can’t 100% compensate for. That’s why the aluminum rings solve wheel vibration
@kentdold38306 ай бұрын
If you don’t have the rings, just center them with tapered lug nuts. You only need two. Finger tighten both, then slightly tighten. Install the correct lug nuts on the other studs, tighten lightly in a star pattern. Remove tapered nuts, install the correct nuts. Tighten and torque all nuts.
@BrosFOURRSpeed6 ай бұрын
The rings still help. Most lugs are tapered foe a central secure fit. But the solid rings still help prevent vibration
@rongz11148 ай бұрын
Other videos on hub rings , they recommend plastic hub rings cause aluminum rings require anti seize or some kind of treatment before installing them so wheels won't be difficult to dismount when you eventually need to rotate or change tires. What say you?
@BrosFOURRSpeed8 ай бұрын
That could be usefull. However I've never had issues. I'll be taking the wheels off the S3 to put the car back to stock for sale, so I guess I'll find out if anything like that happened since I installed them lol
@804MRMAN5 ай бұрын
This is correct! It's not a one time thing either when applying antiseeze, that's where the problems come if you don't have a competent mechanic/ shop you deal with.
@michaelheffelfinger5086 Жыл бұрын
I think the main cause is simply the buyer analyzing the quality of the machining finish of the rims when they arrive especially universal rims. I just went through this and let me tell you from a distance (1') away they look great but the machining is rough when you look at the suff you dont see. My car did the death wobble between 49-55 mph and higher omg it was scary. I got the rings and it fix the issue perfectly. I took the center caps off the rims and every time they were off center to the main hub. The rings made sure it couldnt move at all now its smooth as butter. For 10 more $$ for plastic ones its def gonna be your fix.
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
The plastic rings let the wheels wobble. Not enough rigidity in them. The Aluminum rings solved the wobble issue since the wheel couldnt move up and down. The pressure was no longer on the lug bolts. Metal ring took it and fixed it
@shamimurrohmanali50327 ай бұрын
Just ordered these got the same car. Same issue. I hope this sorts it. Got the hollow stupid plastic rings. Getting vibration. Hope the metal rings sort this issue.
@BrosFOURRSpeed7 ай бұрын
Yeah this should make a big difference!
@shamimurrohmanali50327 ай бұрын
Honestly, mate, big up to you for sharing this. Changed mine to the mental spigot rings, and it has sorted out that annoying vibration. They need to ban them plastic hollow spigot rings. Don't even know why they make them. Thanks mate, anyone reading this with the same issue, buy them metal spigot rings. Sorted the problem out immediately!
@BrosFOURRSpeed7 ай бұрын
@@shamimurrohmanali5032 Glad you got it solved! Yeah I don't know why anyone make the hallow plastic ones. They don't work. The solid polyurethane ones are good too. But not cheap hallow ones
@TheCd5apple5 ай бұрын
I’m having the same issue and have the same plastic non solid ones , ordering me a set like yours and praying it gets fixed 😪
@BrosFOURRSpeed5 ай бұрын
Should fix it!
@TheCd5apple5 ай бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed if I get them here tmrw they are going on right away , I will let you know asap
@BrosFOURRSpeed5 ай бұрын
Nice!
@TheCd5apple5 ай бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed brother thank you so much it’s fixed !!!!!
@joe752810 ай бұрын
Hope you put Anti seized on the rings cause steel on the hub and aluminum rings will fuse together
@joe752810 ай бұрын
@user-lb9st8li1i I'm afraid i will learn the hard way as well on the plastic rings or having to replace the hubs cause i never put rings on to start with and it's been about four years when i put aftermarket wheels on
@BrosFOURRSpeed10 ай бұрын
I know my Supra has aluminum hubs. Cant remember if these are aluminum or not. But good point!
@ae101yota4Ай бұрын
Hi hopefully someone can answer my questions. I bought some aftermarket wheels and they came in with hub centric rings but for a different size of my car my question is how can I remove the old ones and replace them with the correct ones for my car ? They’re attach to the wheels do they just pop off ?
@LimitLess-545 Жыл бұрын
good info! Even though its short it was great!!
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
To the point ;)
@coltuppal Жыл бұрын
They used only for alignment. After the nuts are tightened they do absolutely nothing
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't agree. How do you explain why the car vibrated without them, and then didn't vibrate with them? It keeps any and all flex away from the wheel bolts and keeps the wheel centers while rotating.
@coltuppal Жыл бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed its because when you use them the wheel is central so no wobble but when you didnt use them the wheel was off centre because the alignment wasnt done. its the same as a clutch aligning tool. BTW this isnt my opinion its a fact
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
@@coltuppal The alignment didn’t change in this video. Alignment was done previous to the video. Only thing I changed in this video was the rings and them alone made the wobble stop. These hub centric rings make it to where the wheels didn’t vibrate anymore while driving. Makes them centric to the hub vs lugs. So for people with aftermarket wheels. It’s wise to have solid rings to make for a smoother ride then without.
@coltuppal Жыл бұрын
im talking about aligning wheels on your studs
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
@@coltuppal ok got it. However explain how driving without the centric rings made the car vibrate. And once the rings were installed, the vibration was gone. It’s because they hold the wheel perfectly aligned to the hub. The whole point of the video is showing how you need hub centric rings on wheels that have a larger hub then stock. And that the rings eliminate vibrations.
@clarkkent9634 Жыл бұрын
The rings do not bear any load. They are simply for lining up the wheel correctly.
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
It's not about taking the load of the car. It's about taking the vibration out. Clearly there was a difference from the plastic ones to the metal. When from the car vibrating to driving perfect. So having them a dense material makes a difference
@clarkkent9634 Жыл бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I get tired of hearing how if you don't use rings, all the weight is on the studs.
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
@@clarkkent9634 But technically that’s true. The pressure of the lug bolts is what’s holding the wheels tight. The rings alleviate it and absorb any vibration that the studs can’t handle. They clearly make a difference. Only explanation for why the car vibrated without the solid metal ones.
@stonecold2744 ай бұрын
Weird that no one has a definitive answer to this argument...have heard both sides and both are convincing. I have a problem if the hard plastic rings dont work, bc i refuse to put metal rings on the hub.
@clarkkent96344 ай бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed The RINGS DO NOT SUPPORT ANY LOAD WHAT SO EVER.
@AntLive29 Жыл бұрын
Good information my guy!
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad to share my experience with others!
@jorgeguerra8045 Жыл бұрын
I bought some aftermarket wheels from discount tire and they forgot to install my hub rings I didn’t find out till after I took it to four different stores discount tire stores purchased new tires had a control arm and brakes replaced and finally my mechanic said hey your missing centric rings 3000 miles later boy was I pissed after a round trip to Denver from Houston it was a rough ride WATCH OUT FOR DISCOUNT TIRE PEOPLES
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
Wow that's crazy! Yeah I learned a lot about wheels with these. Makes a huge difference. Wheels feel heavy too when the rings aren't proper
@RichsRantMMAofficialchannel9 ай бұрын
Fitment sold me the hollow plastic ones for $15, tried them and still wobbly… I ordered some aluminum ones on Amazon for $10. I’m hoping this fixes it.
@BrosFOURRSpeed9 ай бұрын
You should be good! The plastic ones are no good. Unless they are solid polyurethane
@RichsRantMMAofficialchannel9 ай бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed no i believe that they are the same ones you had. Gorilla brand, plastic but hollow in the center. So annoying to have to remove my wheels again but I hope it will be the last time. Thanks for the help!
@BrosFOURRSpeed9 ай бұрын
Yeah would definitely stick with solid rings
@RichsRantMMAofficialchannel8 ай бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I put the aluminum rings on and helped a lot. They were also less expensive than the plastic rings . I was only able to hit 100mph but it felt solid for the most part. I did get some anti-seize and put a little on during installation so that should keep them from corroding. Thanks again for the advice! 👍🏾
@BrosFOURRSpeed8 ай бұрын
@@RichsRantMMAofficialchannel Nice! Glad to help!
@anthonygutierrez61848 ай бұрын
I just got new wheels for my Audi A4 but I need to buy this I just don’t know the measurements that I need
@mikelee96084 ай бұрын
I have the ring still doing it !
@BrosFOURRSpeed4 ай бұрын
Maybe you have a bent wheel? Or worn tires?
@DrSpaghettiLegs Жыл бұрын
Really hoping this fixes my GTIs wobble never even considered the hub bore diameter when diagnosing this issue for like 3 years
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
Hope so! Just make sure you get the exact fit. Any bit off and they won't do much. So get the exact to the tenth of a millimeter and you'll be good
@DrSpaghettiLegs Жыл бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed it worked! I can finally enjoy driving my car again
@imaplayeryolo5623 Жыл бұрын
Pray it fixes my issue 😂
@Sinz_-fl9nj Жыл бұрын
I just ordered the plastic ones 😢 but when i get my next tire rotation ill put the aluminum ones on...
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
If they are solid polyurethane you'll be good. But the hallow plastic ones are nearly useless. Definitely go with aluminum to make sure things are perfect.
@StreetDrivenDaily5 ай бұрын
do they need to be replaced every year or so ? had to get those for my GTR as i run rohanas aftermarket wheels. solved all the vibrations.....
@BrosFOURRSpeed5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't think so. We had these on for 2 years and they were still nice and tight
@jay2F_3 ай бұрын
I’m looking to hopefully buy some aftermarket wheels next spring but I’m kind new to this how will I know what size hub rings to get that will fit with the wheels I buy ?
@BrosFOURRSpeed3 ай бұрын
Just look up your cars stock hub size. Can measure it too. I just measured these wheels center bore to figure out the size I needed. They are cheap, so if you have to buy two different sizes if you're unsure. Not the worst thing
@mootsa36 ай бұрын
If I were to get hub centric rings would I be able to use spacers? The spacers I bought are only 4mm.
@BrosFOURRSpeed6 ай бұрын
Your wheel spacers should be hub centric then if they are that small. Are they just thin disks?
@mootsa36 ай бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed They are but they have a small indent within the center ring so i’m not sure if that means they are hub centric
@BrosFOURRSpeed6 ай бұрын
@@mootsa3 Interesting. What brand are they? Do they fit snug on the cars hub? And does the cars hub stick past them to lock into the wheel?
@mootsa36 ай бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed They are apr and I have not even test fitted them yet.
@BrosFOURRSpeed6 ай бұрын
@@mootsa3 That’s a good brand. You’d think they are good then. Test them out and see if you have any vibrations. Do you have longer wheel bolts? If needed
@barbercvo_195 ай бұрын
I put new aluminum hub rings exact side and new set of tires and balanced and it still had slight vibrate. Do you think it’s the rims. ( the rims are brand new
@BrosFOURRSpeed5 ай бұрын
Could be the wheels themselves, suspension or hubs. Try your stock wheels if you can to know if it's the new wheels or the car itself
@manuelOrtiz-lh1iy Жыл бұрын
I just got 22s for my Colorado from Audiocity USA they send me three types of centric rings but one fits right on hub but won’t go on rim the large goes on rims perfectly but loose on hun with out smaller so would I have to use all three together or use two different one
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
You can only use one ring per wheel. Might have to order on Amazon or something. Measure the diameter of the cars hub and the diameter of the wheels hub. Click the link I put in the description. They had a bunch of sizes
@daveisraging1346 Жыл бұрын
I just got after market wheels and I installed them with plastic hub rings and I still feel vibrations going 60mph +, do you think that aluminum hub rings will solve this issue, thank you.
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
I'd definitely try them! The link in this video has several sizes. Make sure it's the right size and try. Definitely a noticeable difference from the plastic ones I had to these aluminum ones.
@vi2official1454 ай бұрын
Is there a certain brand I should get for a Honda civic
@BrosFOURRSpeed4 ай бұрын
They just need to be the correct size to fit snug on your cars hub and wheel hub
@skmk390010 ай бұрын
I don't understand why mechanics aren't using it. Also auto parts shops like AutoZone advance O'Reilly ...etc they never have in stock
@3DS__Gamer Жыл бұрын
Is that what real is? I though it was the tire quality. Danm 🤭😲
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
Yeah the hub centric rings make a difference! The tires are 2022 build date and Michelin. So it’s not them
@boost331Ай бұрын
Almost all modern cars use conical lug nuts and if the wheels are torqued on properly there should be no need for any centering rings.
@BrosFOURRSpeedАй бұрын
Then how come there are tons of comments of people who found vibration with aftermarket wheels and hollow plastic rings and then saw vibrations eliminated with the aluminum rings? That was my experience, so clearly the lugs bolts alone don't always prevent vibration. Why else would the stock wheels and hubs have the hub centric design?
@boost331Ай бұрын
Likely improper installation the 1st time. There are a few things that can cause that. If the lugs are not torqued properly or in the correct pattern the wheels may not sit flush. If there is rust\crud on the hub surface, the wheel may not sit flat. Cheap plastic rings are exactly what they sound like. They can be poorly manufactured making them uneven or wear\warm over time and temp changes. After high school I worked at a tire\wheel shop for a few years. I would never recommend hib rings to anyone unless the car used flat lugs\washers. Some people insisted on them cuz the internet said so though. Never had a car come back. Of my own dozens of modded cars, I have never used them either. My BRZ has Anovia wheels and my mazdaspeed 3 has Konigs on them currently. Both have a giant wheel bore and no hub rings at all. I believe what you found is that aluminum rings worked better than plastic in your case. My point is that you dont need them at all.
@BrosFOURRSpeedАй бұрын
@@boost331 I’ve tested this several times on my cars tho and even slowly tightening each bolt in a star pattern to spec, still found vibration. The center hub needs to seat perfectly or there can be vibration. With the metal rings it takes all the guess work out and never have issues
@boost331Ай бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed If it works for you, so be it. No harm in it..... Usually. I have seen the aluminum rings oxidize and fuse themselves to the steel hubs making for a nightmare to get them off. I cant explain why the hundreds if not thousands of cars I put wheels on including my own have never had an issue with no rings at all yet some have these problems. 🤷♂️ Your typical 60 degree conical lug nut (tuner lugs) ride along the taper in the wheel forcing each stud into the center of the hole. Being off center is what causes vibration so something went wrong somewhere along the way.
@BrosFOURRSpeedАй бұрын
@@boost331 the cars I’ve done this on all have aluminum hubs. But for those with steel hubs, so anti seize grease would be beneficial.
@fredjones5327 Жыл бұрын
I have the same symptoms on my Tiguan but I cannot find solid aluminum hub centric rings for 57.1, I have after market 20” wheels and it’s just says 57.1 cb
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
Did you click the link in the description? You should be able to find one on Amazon. Just need the wheels bore and your cars hub bore
@fredjones5327 Жыл бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed yes I did but on Amazon it’s has 57.1 to another bore size or the other way around, where I bought the wheels it just says 57.1 cb size…
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
@@fredjones5327 what’s the bore size on the wheels? And what’s the size of the hub on your car?
@fredjones5327 Жыл бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed bore size on the wheel is 57.1 on the truck I do t know I’ll find out
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
Take a measuring tape and measure the outer diameter of the hub on the car, and then the diameter of the hub on the wheel
@jamilmcintyre3178 Жыл бұрын
when you mean vibration did this also mean seeing your steering wheel shake crazy?
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
Yeah is wobbled a bit. Not that much tho. Car felt more like I was riding over consistent bumps in the road. Like the whole car would bounce up and down. If I put my head on the head rest, it would bump my head forwards and back
@tonydacosta457511 ай бұрын
yea mines is crazy i bought wrz wheels for my golf and we have the same bolt pattern but different offset and it shakes crazy at times then its normal at times so i definitely need a hub centric ring
@Fvcyoupayme10 ай бұрын
I just changed my brake pads and rotors and now my steering wheel shakes. Mechanic possibly lost one of my centering ring but never knew such a thing existed. Now I have to double check because I even balenced my wheels 3 times
@tauseefchauhan845 Жыл бұрын
what are those plastic ones? so i don’t get those lol
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
They just came separate with the wheels. Definitely stick with either solid polyurethane or aluminum. Hollow plastic is garbage. At least these metal ones are cheap
@pedrocols Жыл бұрын
After keep going back to get the car balance 5 times, they finally told me I needed hub centric rings...geez....
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
Yeah these make a world of difference!
@sethgolding768711 ай бұрын
Same with me!
@abnervaldezestrada3167 Жыл бұрын
Hi
@BrosFOURRSpeed Жыл бұрын
Hi
@Dismemb3r5 ай бұрын
be careful if you have steel rims, and use aluminum hub rings as they seize over time
@BrosFOURRSpeed5 ай бұрын
Yeah that's be good. These are all aluminum for me
@DSI992 ай бұрын
urban legend. aluminum rings carrying car weight? go and learn your physics mate. when the stud are properly made you should be able to rotate those rings in place because they can not carry any load.
@BrosFOURRSpeed2 ай бұрын
Then why did the solid metal rings eliminate the vibration when the hollow plastic ones didn't? The lugs do hold the wheel tight. But there is still some vibrations that the bolts alone can't overcome. Solid rings add that extra solid base to the hubs to keep things perfect
@phottomatt42028 ай бұрын
I don't think these are actually needed if you install your wheels with a little care. The lug nuts will actually center the wheel for you if you wobble your wheel while you snug up the lug nuts. The wheel gets off center because the mechanic isn't taking the time to do it correctly, they just drive the lugs on with an air gun and don't pay attention. There's nothing wrong with using them, I'm sure it makes it easier but if you take your time and install the wheel correctly you don't need them.
@BrosFOURRSpeed8 ай бұрын
No you still need the rings. I put these wheels on and I always slowly snug bolts in a star pattern. The metal hub ring further keeps them centered. I've done this on many cars. And since I installed the wheels each time, the same way, how else can you explain why the vibrations went away with the rings installed and came back with the rings removed? The rings makes the difference
@TokyoHomes5 ай бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeedI always use It hub centric rings, few years ago mechanic forget to put It hub centric rings and my car was vibrating so when I re do it with It hub centric rings no more vibrations.
@BrosFOURRSpeed5 ай бұрын
@@TokyoHomes yeah they make a difference!
@TokyoHomes5 ай бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed 100%
@vector1508 ай бұрын
so I have twied 4 different pairs of plastic rings and 4 different pairs of metal still a vibration. Wheel hubs replaced, cv shafts, control arms inner and outer tie rods. But rides smooth with factor wheels. Been using the rings konig said i need. Not Iw ill having the wheels balanced with out the tires mounted.
@BrosFOURRSpeed8 ай бұрын
Dang that's weird. Has to be a bent wheel or poor balance
@vector1508 ай бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I will post here later what my findings are when they try balancing it without the tire on the rim. I'm hoping it's just a belt in the tire
@BrosFOURRSpeed8 ай бұрын
@@vector150 Yeah hopefully you get it dialed in!
@vector1508 ай бұрын
@@BrosFOURRSpeed thank you very much for the reply and inwill update later
@Muklolan6668 ай бұрын
Had the same issue...either your tires or your rims. Do you have any curb rash on the rims? They could be slightly bent. Tires also make an incredible difference. I had cheapies on and they would vibrate at high speed and make a lot of low speed noise. Swapped out the rims and the tires for some good bridgestones along with solid plastics hub rings and she rides smooth as butter now. Good luck!