How to speed up golf...

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Peter Finch Golf

Peter Finch Golf

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@phantomdust9162
@phantomdust9162 5 жыл бұрын
You and rick should try the 14 club challenge. I think it would make a good video
@hagenrudisaile1028
@hagenrudisaile1028 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@playmakerbtw8376
@playmakerbtw8376 5 жыл бұрын
Helll Yehhhhhhh
@filip28
@filip28 5 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@Jacobvq
@Jacobvq 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a 14 Club Challenge 👍🏻😉
@reuk
@reuk 5 жыл бұрын
With Golf bidder clubs
@charleswalker101
@charleswalker101 5 жыл бұрын
One thing I observe more and more is that people don’t seem to prepare for their shot. Before getting to my ball I’m already sizing up the situation, distance, how the green looks, pin placement etc so the extra minutes thinking this stuff over on every hole and shot don’t get chance to add up over the round (also as you say expectation management) of what’s possible. Finally and slightly controversially... anyone else think that those who complain about slow play sometimes aren’t the quickest of players! Great content as always!
@rufussthoo4083
@rufussthoo4083 5 жыл бұрын
I agree Charles. The complainers are often the players that rush through one hole, complain about catching up and want to play through, then slow everyone else up behind them because they duff every shot on the next 3 holes (probably by rushing to stay ahead).
@patrikstreng6834
@patrikstreng6834 5 жыл бұрын
100% agree. I'm usually already 100m ahead of everyone while they're hitting the shot. Only thing I need to do is to watch out
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
Charles Walker very fair points Charles!
@paulhoughton5431
@paulhoughton5431 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Pete, yes slow play is the bane of golf. But as you say playing too fast also detracts from the enjoyment. You being at Thorpeness reminded me of a visit I had there about ten years ago. I'd only been playing golf a couple of years and was playing off about 21. We had booked two four balls for a stay over at the hotel with two rounds of golf. We got the times mixed up and arrived 20 minutes late for our first day tee time. The club pro (was famous and had been there 30+ years) his pro shop is opposite the first tee. The pro was not famous as an old player but famous for being surly and pretty scary! His mantel was there is no slow play on my course. We announced our arrival in the shop, he looked at his watch and told us we were on the clock from now and he would be checking our progress. Every few holes he would appear in his buggy from behind a tree, and state your still playing to slow. In the end we managed to get around in a little over four hours but he was not impressed when we finished. he said he expected better the next day. That night we laughed about the grumpy pro in the bar and said we would make sure we were not late on the tee the next morning. When we arrived at the pro shop the others were to terrified in going into the pro shop to buy drinks and collect cards. They asked me to go in..... I also had to collect a buggy key, as I'm an above knee amputee. When I entered the shop I saw the Club pro eyeing my prosthetic leg as I was wearing shorts. In giving me the cart key he asked what I play off? 21 I announced ...21 he thundered pointing to an old sepia picture of a one legged golfer on crutches. This here is Fred Smith (I can't remember the name) WW1 veteran lost his leg on the Somme, club champion played off 8! He went round on crutches in under 4 hours. I told the others on the tee we better get a move on, because there was no appeasing this guy. After a few holes we slowed to a more sensible pace, but while standing on the green a couple of coloured balls rolled onto the green. A female four ball was right up behind us. The women were playing faster than us! We stopped on the next tee to let them through and congratulated them on the fast play. We don't usually play this fast said one women, but that mans terrifying she pointed down the fairway at the pro fast approaching in his buggy. Thorpeness is a wonderful course and I will play it again soon I hope. Funnily enough I am the club Champion at my club at the moment I now play off 13.
@glennwiebe5128
@glennwiebe5128 5 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right, Peter, about the pace of play. I've been playing "ready" golf for over 20 years and didn't realize it was a thing. Whenever I play with people that I don't know, I attempt to establish before the first tee that we (I) play ready golf. If someone asks about the "honour" I reply that we honour the groups behind by not holding them up. That is usually accepted and away we go. You made a great point about watching your offline ball. It drives me batty to watch people drive/walk up and down the fairway (usually 20 yards farther due to their ego inflated drive) guessing at where the ball might have escaped the short grass. Playing quickly is different from playing fast. Great video! R&A and USGA, are you listening?
@MrSchwing27
@MrSchwing27 5 жыл бұрын
The clubhouse banter was the reason I smashed that like button. Absolutely love your content. Thank you.
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
Alex cheers Alex
@josephbaldwin3557
@josephbaldwin3557 5 жыл бұрын
I think they should increase the gapping between tee times. It's usually about 12 minute gaps why not make it 16 minute gaps or 20 minute gaps. Even at 16 that gives amateurs time to look for there ball if it's landed in some long grass. Where I play there is long grass, trees and out of bounds everywhere and not much room for error which meant I would lose about 5 balls a round but all that time looking for the ball adds up. So I think the gap between tee times would be the way to go :)
@rj6023
@rj6023 5 жыл бұрын
Joseph Baldwin I agree my local course books every 7 minutes no matter what size group is
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
Joseph Baldwin I guess some clubs could look at this but for others it might not be an option financially, particularly at the weekends
@davidrichard4300
@davidrichard4300 5 жыл бұрын
Great tips...a great tip you did not say was play only with 4 people and not more. I have been stuck behind a group of 6 and they were teaching 3 of them how to play and sharing clubs. I appreciate them teaching and helping but pay attention to the course.
@michaelmckinley3494
@michaelmckinley3494 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video mate! I love golf and I’m trying to spread the game to my family and friends. But no one teaches people what golf is for. They think its only fun to play amazing and play fast. I’ve been teaching them the things you brought up. Thank you for spreading this information. Your personality and creativity is insanely admirable. I’ve learned a lot from you and I appreciate you and the time you spend making the game better and in turn making our lives more fun. Golf is more beautiful than a score. Playing smart and in a timely manner is not hard to achieve. We can all appreciate our surroundings and each other all in a timely pace. We just need to teach balance. Thank you! Best of luck to you!
@jamesrudge8680
@jamesrudge8680 5 жыл бұрын
Love the sitting on the bench chat and completely agree that people should just be out to enjoy the time and not rush
@trevormagruder2193
@trevormagruder2193 5 жыл бұрын
Great content is this video. Some general comments on speeding up play: 1) Mentally prepare for your shot while you are walking/riding up to it. Don't get up to your ball and then starting thinking of the lie, distance, shot type, etc. 2) If you're not putting for money, in a tournament, or trying to qualify for a tournament you don't need to read the green from every angle imaginable.
@jeremyabbott9909
@jeremyabbott9909 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Finch... another outstanding video. I am an expat from the US, living in NZ for the last 6 years. Avid golf fan and ecstatic to have found your channel. Don't know if I would have come across you back in the States but stoked I have here. I absolutely live your approach, attitude, content and editing. One of my favorite golf content creators on KZbin. Thanks for all that you do
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Abbott thanks a lot Jeremy, appreciate that :)
@robertgraham8813
@robertgraham8813 5 жыл бұрын
More absolute gold from mr finch .we want 14 club challange with shieldsy
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Graham gotta catch us in the same time zone at the same time!
@andybeel7003
@andybeel7003 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely spot on buddy! Brilliant video encapsulating really good points that are soooo relevant 👏👏👏
@DavidS19551
@DavidS19551 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Pete...I have always felt that over thinking on a shot, which slows play, sometimes makes your shot worse. When I was playing..after I hit my shot, I was already thinking about the next to the best of my ability..because I didn't know what kind of lie I had but at least I was thinking ahead. Guys like Trevino, played quickly and he was pretty much talking even when hitting his shot. I think you are really giving some excellent videos and of course with good humor. Thank you Pete
@willsfishery3341
@willsfishery3341 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Pete!
@kevinkrzykowski8674
@kevinkrzykowski8674 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video Pete. I used to look at golf as a challenge to try and play the fastest, low scoring round possible. As I have come to enjoy the beauty, nature, and people that I share the course with, I especially enjoyed the end of the video about taking enough time to enjoy yourself.
@jd9799
@jd9799 5 жыл бұрын
Its simple things like going over to your ball if it's not in front of a person, know what club you're going to hit, tee off if you're ready rather then your turn. It will all help speed things up without having to run around
@Josh-lb6qb
@Josh-lb6qb 5 жыл бұрын
Love your channel Pete, because of you I have reduced my handicap by 10 shots so thankyou, keep up the good work
@hagenrudisaile1028
@hagenrudisaile1028 5 жыл бұрын
Me too
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
Josh Logue awesome to hear guys 🙏
@carstenriehm5687
@carstenriehm5687 5 жыл бұрын
Combining the last part of the video with the headline is great!
@yipshank7840
@yipshank7840 5 жыл бұрын
The whole course can only move as fast as the slowest group in front of them. Nobody wants to stand on every tee box for 5-10 minutes waiting.
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
Yipshank true story
@Droltan
@Droltan 5 жыл бұрын
The worst part of "slow play" is the impatient gits behind you hitting balls up your backside when you're just in the middle of the queue!
@wanderingbrummie
@wanderingbrummie 5 жыл бұрын
Agree, they are as bad as the slow guys in front, and dangerous too.
@craigphollingsworth1460
@craigphollingsworth1460 5 жыл бұрын
Or single players or pairs pushing to get through on weekend when there's no where to go . Generally find best to at least chat to them along the lines of - 'we'd let you through but all 4 balls ahead" etc etc
@180_RH
@180_RH 5 жыл бұрын
I've been a "wannabe" golfer for years. Go to driving range occasionally and go around the 9 or 18 hole now a again.. But, taken it a bit more serious lately, mainly to try lose some weight. Watching your videos has helped me loads with my game. Luckily, I live near Lichfield and have a gold club that has a 9 hole, 18 hole, driving range, putting green, pitching/sand area, plus gym facilities. 9 hole doesn't need a membership either, which is a bonus!
@ZaxDrumsGolfandMore
@ZaxDrumsGolfandMore 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree about being realistic and know your yardages!! It depends on how full the course is!! I played my last 9 holes in 1,5 hours!! But there was hardly anyone on the course.
@Hartlepoolgolfer
@Hartlepoolgolfer 5 жыл бұрын
Loving your content lately. I find that some people don't line up their putt or do anything on the green until it's their turn! If your in a 4some the last person could be watching for 5-10 minutes when they could be getting ready to putt. Me and my mate always play near the greens whoever is ready instead of who's turn it is. We take two people around 3-4 hours. Ish. Depending on the course
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
Anthony Elliott good stuff 👍
@trommlerking
@trommlerking 5 жыл бұрын
mate, this is the voice of reason. A whole round of 18 is going to take time and thats a good thing. Just not 5+ hours. I think anything around 4h for a 4some is excellent. Loved the video!
@mrchris1980
@mrchris1980 5 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree with this any more than I do, especially the note at the end about just taking time to enjoy the game. I play on my own a lot and the worst thing is a group behind rattling through it so quickly that I, even on my own, have trouble staying ahead. I offer them to play through, but am politely declined. Problem is, then I feel pressured to rush, play bad shots, and feel bad about something I just want to enjoy.
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
Chris Jensen don’t feel bad bud, enjoy it
@potatocastmattyp502
@potatocastmattyp502 5 жыл бұрын
That last point I think raises a bit more of a debate. For me when I play my local course (and when I play on my own), I expect to be done in 3 hours max, I know the course, the views etc so I don’t need to take it in as much. When I play a new course with different (and sometimes spectacular views around Edinburgh) I’m more than happy to play a round on my own which lasts 3.5 hours because I see it as an experience, not just a normal round of golf at my home course
@logieuk
@logieuk 5 жыл бұрын
Played 18 holes last sunday, first time for me in 2 years just getting back into Golf. Played with 3 people who are 70, 74, 58. Got round in 4 hours with the new rules. Also if you are ready to take your shot and there is no danger, just take it. It helps massive instead of waiting for the furthest back to hit, then the next guy etc
@acemakerjay
@acemakerjay 5 жыл бұрын
Finished 18 this morning, we were a five-some in 3.5 hours in carts (buggy). Scores were 80, 82, 85, 87, 99. We always play ready golf. Plus leaving the pin in has helped a lot. Every once in a while I feel rushed.
@franksampsell3538
@franksampsell3538 5 жыл бұрын
Great points as always. As a relatively good player and one who hits the ball some distance, I hate having to endure 7-minute intermissions between my tee shot and approach while the group ahead takes a cumulative 35 strokes to traverse 380 yards. Any tips for maintaining a rhythm in this situation Pete? I have all the respect in the world for beginners or bad golfers... but if you need 120 swings to make it 'round a 6,200 yd. layout, please be mindful of the guys who don't. Sometimes slow play stems from the fact that people simply cannot take that many swings any faster... I just wish those folks would aim for less-busy times while they learn the game.
@petem9392
@petem9392 5 жыл бұрын
Two great points Pete Looking where the bad shots go I look away in disgust quite often lol. Ready golf is a great idea I play with some people who take an age to get their s#*t together but then want the honour of teeing off first 😡 it’s so annoying.
@aaronmelbourne9506
@aaronmelbourne9506 5 жыл бұрын
I play at a small local club which is roughly 7 km long my comp rounds normally take 3.5 to just over 4 hours. So normally when I play golf I like to get around at a decent pace but still find that as a group we normally have time to have a chat and enjoy our selves. I think the best tools of quickening up play is definitely ready golf, a couple weeks ago I played golf with a player who is a dogged honor system player and it drove me nuts, especially on the greens where he insisted on making sure the furthest putter would go. I am a type of guy who really loves to hit my tee shot as soon as I get to the tee box, depending on the group in front of course. Also another this I think quickens up play is players putting their bags in a location that is close to the next tee once they are near the green, I just find that players who would do this and take a wedge and a putter would normally go a lot quicker compared to players who leave their bags at the front of the green or the wrong side of the green. Great vid Peter keep up the good work.
@paulhorne9379
@paulhorne9379 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more about the group that are behind you putting pressure on, got a few like that at my club. All it does is put everyone's back up. I play golf to relax with friends, this obsession with getting around in under 3 hours has got to stop.
@samunator25
@samunator25 5 жыл бұрын
I am by no means a slow player (I think 😂) but I cant stand playing people who want to try and play a round in 1 hour. That makes the round unenjoyable for me.
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
Sam Dicker 100%
@stormzyaoe581
@stormzyaoe581 5 жыл бұрын
If I'm playing on my own it takes around 2.30 hours to 3 hours with being let through by a few groups which is fine. For a two ball or 3 ball 3 hours to 4 ish are great. And 4 ball shouldn't matter because they should let everyone faster go through and they can enjoy there 7 hour round
@dbillau
@dbillau 5 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about 9 or 18 holes in an hour.
@kelloran
@kelloran 5 жыл бұрын
The worst is if you're in a 4ball and the 4 flights behind you are 2 3 balls. I don't mind letting people pass but 2balls should join each other or you will have to wait.
@lukejarrett1973
@lukejarrett1973 5 жыл бұрын
Having a routine around each type of shot- or even each club- gives you the time to slow things down without actually wasting time. Unfortunately, part of my routine is the club-drop-over-the-shoulder follow through finished with a 10 second teapot looking up at the sky!
@garethwhitehead4938
@garethwhitehead4938 5 жыл бұрын
Been a fan of your channel for a while now. Really enjoy the content you bring out, keep going mate!
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
Gareth Whitehead thanks a lot Gareth
@krusbaer11
@krusbaer11 5 жыл бұрын
So many has misunderstood what slow play is. It's not about how fast you walk or how many seconds you stand over the ball etc. It's more about being prepared when it's your turn, on the way to your ball think about which club and type of shot you prefer and put on/keep your glove on. Go to your ball directly, don't wait next to your mates ball. It's the small things that adds up and save you time so that you don't have to rush and can enjoy your round much more.
@lukejtav7452
@lukejtav7452 5 жыл бұрын
Ready system all the way. Nothing annoys me more then a group of 4+ only playing in sequence, all waiting for each other on each shot, all having 10 practice swings, changing clubs back and forth before they decide to actually hit the shot. Go to your ball and if your ready and it’s safe to do so, take the shot. It doesn’t matter that your mate is two metres behind you and on the opposite side of the fairway.
@aaronmelbourne9506
@aaronmelbourne9506 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree I find the old system actually effects my play massively and just isn't enjoyable.
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
LukeJTav agreed
@austinwest7155
@austinwest7155 5 жыл бұрын
I Definitely like to take my time and enjoy myself and try to make each stroke count. That being said if someone behind me is clearly better and playing faster, I let them play through. As for the time nazis, I totally agree. What’s the point?
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
Austin West quickerquickerquicker 🤦‍♂️
@Ryan-pv7nw
@Ryan-pv7nw 5 жыл бұрын
i work at a course that does 50k rounds a year and pace is always an issue around the par 5s, for exactly the reason you spoke about. People really think they'll pure their 3 wood 270 onto a peninsula green haha, just lay up and have a wedge in
@bobbyk3469
@bobbyk3469 5 жыл бұрын
Know your limitations, be ready to hit, and do your scorecard on the next tee! Don't sit greenside figuring out who gets a stroke.
@stevencowan1788
@stevencowan1788 5 жыл бұрын
Magic mate .bang on with this video
@bigdeano162000
@bigdeano162000 5 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree with your comments more here Finch. I'm stuck at a golf club full of old hackers who are obsessed with speed golf. I cannot for one minute understand why you would rush something that you enjoy so much. I'm all for playing at a decent pace but I think people are getting so obsessed with slow play now they are taking the fun out of the game. How the hell can you expect to get the best out of your game if you take zero care over your shot? Ps play 9 holes if that's all you have time for.
@patrickbuckley9694
@patrickbuckley9694 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoy yourselves out there!
@phones-boloniak3443
@phones-boloniak3443 5 жыл бұрын
I think one of the contributing factors to slow play is congestion. In order to play 18 holes in 4 hours, which is a good pace for a group of four, each hole should take 13 minutes and 20 seconds. However, all public course in my area send groups off every 10 minutes, forcing more and more groups into the course. With so many groups on the course, any small slowdown can cause several groups to bunch up.
@jerrypk1188
@jerrypk1188 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect. I think we'd get along just fine on the course.
@jcrb8894
@jcrb8894 5 жыл бұрын
Brooks keopka has entered the chat
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
J Crb8 🙊
@barryreynolds5820
@barryreynolds5820 5 жыл бұрын
Found you through the Rick Shiels, 1,500 yd par 10 challenge. Great channel bro, keep up the great content!
@furiouspuppy
@furiouspuppy 5 жыл бұрын
I played golf for decades in the midwest U.S. Walking a round most days after work solo for
@MrJoel9679
@MrJoel9679 5 жыл бұрын
Peter, what do you think are the times it should take to play different holes?
@johnjones8026
@johnjones8026 5 жыл бұрын
This is why i am going to stop playing public courses. last time i played me and my mates got round in around 4hrs or so and i think thats perfectly fine. But on the 5th hole we got told to speed up, i come out and play golf to enjoy it and better myself. I understand if someone is taking sooo long over there shot, what to do etc. But we was meerly playing at a consistent pace.
@barryreynolds5820
@barryreynolds5820 5 жыл бұрын
I play in a modified stableford every Sunday with a group of 20-30+ golfers. As you can imagine, there is a high level of skill discrepancy in that large of a group. One way we speed up play is to make double bogey the maximum on any given hole. I honestly think that should be an unwritten rule among casual players too (who aren't trying to establish a handicap, of course) and if they tank on a single hole, pick it up, take your max allowed score based on handicap, or a double (if you're within tap-in range) and move on. For example, I am a 13.1 index and if I squirrel one OB on a drive on a par 5 and choose to re-tee, by the time I chip it onto the green, in let's say 6, doing my best to hole out for 1 modified stableford point, but miss, I pick it up. Doesn't matter if I am 5 ft or 50 ft from the hole, I mark down a 7 (since that's the max i can take as a 13.1 hdcp) so we can all move on quicker. I think if we all did that, it would create a noticeable decrease to the average round time across the board. Great vid!
@waynemillsteed2625
@waynemillsteed2625 5 жыл бұрын
Love your blogs Peter, i enjoy the walk and smell the roses, so to speak... from an Aussie that accent, sounded like they should be on horse back chasing foxes 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
@kevinm.8611
@kevinm.8611 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing up the mentality of the “speed golfers”. The idea of playing 18 hole in under 2 hours and that being a “good” thing, is annoying. It goes both ways, people who are pushing everyone ahead of them so they can get done in 2 hours 20, are just as bothersome as the 5+ hour groups as well.
@bigomondis104
@bigomondis104 5 жыл бұрын
If I catch a deal with a cart and am the first out it'll take me 3 hours. If I'm walking and enjoying myself with my buddies, about 4 hours if the course is close, if the tee boxes are far apart, closer to 5 if walking. Was out early one morning and there was no one behind me all morning and I was keeping pace with the guy in front of me, not pushing into him, until hole 12 where these two guys are racing through playing. Didn't look like they were having much fun
@intentionaloffside8934
@intentionaloffside8934 5 жыл бұрын
Slow play is a complex issue, as usually players of various skill levels are on the same course. With so many courses closing every year we need to encourage beginners and ladies not chastise them. I agree that Golfers need to manage their expectations, and allow enough time to enjoy the whole experience. The camaraderie with the people you are playing with, a game of skill and tradition, and time spent in touch with nature. Still beats any day in the office!
@tyeeggleston6159
@tyeeggleston6159 5 жыл бұрын
I feel that golf courses, on the weekends, will over pack their courses just for the sake of more $. Also, if you hit an errant shot and cant seem to find it within, oh say 3-5 mins, just take a drop and move on. Unless youre playing in some tourney or club championship there is no reason to look for your golf ball for 10 mins. Pete, i like what your say about being "realistic" in your hitting abilities, ive seen way too many golfers trying to reach long par 4s and 5s in 2 when they can even hit the ball 200yds off the tee....I dont claim to be the longest hitter or the fastest player in the world either, but at least i try to keep moving and not delaying the group behind me. Play "smart" all around, from tee to green and everything else in between.
@sailingnoboundaries
@sailingnoboundaries 5 жыл бұрын
Just finished walking nine. Two hours and plus two to par. I won’t do anything else on the weekend because the courses around me play five and half six hours on the weekend, but four and half during the week. This is because we have lost four courses in the area to home development and the others have started booking tee times eight minutes apart to accommodate demand. One course even has gone to seven minutes at peak times. Operators need to consider split tees, course routing i.e. don’t open with a blind tee shot par 5 or a long par 3 and “suggesting appropriate tees based on skill level. Instead they send the Marshall out to yell at people to speed up, which has the opposite effect. It’s greed on the part of some operators that is also a big part of the problem.
@ericsutherland9932
@ericsutherland9932 5 жыл бұрын
One of the big issues I face at my local club is a reluctancy from golfers to let groups behind them play through if space has opened up in-front of them. It is extremely frustrating because I have no issue if you're not that a great a golfer or do take your time, but it is important to be aware of that and just let people through. This is a problem especially in the evenings, not much to be done on a weekend morning or afternoon but in the evenings when not a lot of people out playing there is no issue with letting the single or double behind you play through.
@pmd2i1
@pmd2i1 5 жыл бұрын
I always let people play through in situations like that. That being said, the group playing through should definitely play ready golf, even if it's just on that hole. It's irritating let another group play through, only to have them take ages to decide who is teeing off first, or take 10 practice swings on the fairway of the 15th. In context, I play mid week, early afternoon rounds, so it's not especially busy
@alexdeel2339
@alexdeel2339 5 жыл бұрын
Wise words Peter.
@OccasionalWoodcraft
@OccasionalWoodcraft 5 жыл бұрын
As a very new golfer, this is one of the things that terrifies me. I want to go and learn to play but hate the thought I'm slowing people down behind me. I spend time on driving ranges to practice My challenge is how do I learn course play without being slow and maybe needing 8 shots on a hole at times?
@craigphollingsworth1460
@craigphollingsworth1460 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone should be irritated with someone who takes more shots or who is searching for a ball - happens to us all. This is not the point - it's the unnecessary wasted time and faffing.
@winstonsmith11
@winstonsmith11 5 жыл бұрын
Just go play the best you can. Try on every shot. If someone is up your ass, let them through. You'll never get where you're trying to go by rushing.
@Adrian-yv8sy
@Adrian-yv8sy 5 жыл бұрын
That Clive voice suits you you should keep it up ha Totally agree with everything ultimately it's just be ready to hit your shot when it's your turn
@chrisgolfer7528
@chrisgolfer7528 5 жыл бұрын
We have many guys at our club that are in an electric carts and they drive up to a ball then the guy get's out, finally hits it, puts the club back in the bag, fills the divot and gets in the cart which then travels 10 metres to the right and then the other guy gets out and goes through the same routine when he could have easily walked there and been ready to hit!
@NJTRAF
@NJTRAF 5 жыл бұрын
Personally I know my (rough) yardage for my clubs, once I get my drive away, as long as it’s somewhere on/near the fairway I’m keeping an eye out for a 150/100 yard marker as I’m walking, im looking further up towards the green for hazards and the bail-out option and I’ve lined up 2/3 clubs as an option dependant on what I want to do and what the lie could be. I do a good 75%+ of my prep before I even reach the ball. I do a similar thing for the greens, once my ball is on the green I’m looking for where the dips, shelves and contours are from a distance and getting a rough idea before I reach my ball. Even reading the green, I have a quick look behind the ball, line up and hit it. I’ve tried taking longer and trying to get all the angles and it makes absolutely no difference. I play ready golf when I play with my mates because it just makes sense, some of us hit it further than others, some straighter and so on so again it makes sense just to hit it when you are ready. Also, dependent on what we’re playing - say Stableford - once I know I can’t get a point on a hole I concede it. There no point playing to a 10 on a Par 4 stroke index 18 when you’re playing stableford as it makes no difference to your score. And if you’re having a mare you might as well just move on to the next hole and put that bad one behind you
@markbailey9503
@markbailey9503 5 жыл бұрын
When i go for a round Pete i make the most of day of golf last as long as i can i have picked up a tent before to play the hole day after.
@gbouton2011
@gbouton2011 5 жыл бұрын
I played Bethpage black today. It was amazing and terrible at the same time
@rayhitchcock4899
@rayhitchcock4899 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent attitude Peter, love your videos. If you ever tire of playing (Ah Ah) you should consider sports psychology.
@Fitzer-si5oo
@Fitzer-si5oo 5 жыл бұрын
Played in my first competition two weeks ago, there was a queue of three four balls on the 14th tee box. Slow play is a big problem for sure!
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
Fitzer 1892 oh dear 🤦‍♂️
@GolfingMalky
@GolfingMalky 5 жыл бұрын
Great topic for debate with some nice ideas from yourself. I don't suppose there is any one simple answer but a starting point could be sensible discussion within the club itself at an AGM or the like. Get members to engage in the discussion. Even ask non-members to contribute. Offer 9 hole rounds / packages / comps so players don't have to worry about committing 5+ hours every time they go play Cheers
@samuraisoul1043
@samuraisoul1043 5 жыл бұрын
Peter can you and rick play a round with hosing Choi swing v bubba Watson swing would love that nine hole flip a coin and winner picks player . Gold it would be. Great video bout how to enjoy the game btw.we used to have a break at ninth hole let people through have a chocolate and smoke break . Weather depending tho
@blakemurray2834
@blakemurray2834 5 жыл бұрын
This whole I scenario happened to me I was 270m away from a par 5 green and I said ohh yea no way I'm getting there so I stepped over the ball with my 3 wood and crushed it I landed it on the green 10 feet away from the whole and stopped dead the group on the green went off at me but it was a great shot
@stevenielsen3
@stevenielsen3 5 жыл бұрын
Blake Murray you were right to hit that shot....that’s what FORE is for....ya the group ahead is pissed but the group behind is not
@ciaradonnelly4627
@ciaradonnelly4627 5 жыл бұрын
Three good tips to a steady round, ready golf, leaving your bag towards the next tee on the green and leaving the flag in for most of it
@Fugee68
@Fugee68 5 жыл бұрын
I've been playing golf for about forty years and two of the most common things that I believe have slowed play are range finders and lining the ball up with a line on the ball when putting. Was Tiger the first to do this? I often play 18 holes by myself and am constantly 10-15 minutes quicker if I don't have my range finder with me. Lining the ball up really frustrates me. I can walk to the next tee in the time it takes somebody to line the ball up, check they have lined it up correctly, readjust it and then miss the damn putt. I don't understand that they've banned having caddies line up players because it takes too long, but still allow lining the ball up.
@grahamtomlin3272
@grahamtomlin3272 5 жыл бұрын
My biggest bugbear is people not being prepared for their shot, they get to the tee box and find they don't have a tee peg, then when they eventually get their ball on the tee they start to look for a glove and only then put it on and then they take several practice swings before duffing it 50 yards in front of them. A little forethought goes a long way to making the game faster without having to rush.
@heindrichdyer8294
@heindrichdyer8294 5 жыл бұрын
Pete I'm really struggling with my feet alignment. Will you please make a video on that.
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
Heindrich Dyer 👍
@heindrichdyer8294
@heindrichdyer8294 5 жыл бұрын
@@peterfinchgolf thanks, that wil be appreciated. Im a 8,5 h/c and its costing me alot of shots. I'm struggling to shoot 42 on 9
@nevillecoleske6368
@nevillecoleske6368 5 жыл бұрын
On my own it takes me 2.5 -3 hours, that without rushing. 2-3 ball normally 3.5 hours. How long do you take on average for a normal round?
@Thetruth1120
@Thetruth1120 5 жыл бұрын
Im a relatively fast player n i also enjoy my time spent on the course. What kills me is when the 4 some in front of me all wait for each other to hit, just for everyone of them to shank the ball into the woods. All the while more n more groups are stacking on the tee box. I get it everyone has a “learning curve” but if u see your holding up multiple groups just pick up n go to the green or move on
@savaged
@savaged 5 жыл бұрын
how about letting players through? I've had slow players ahead with a building gap in front of them who refuse to acknowledge me because I'm a single player. it was a slightly posh club. that never happens at my local municipal
@wanderingbrummie
@wanderingbrummie 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, we are pretty quick but if it’s clear ahead we’d always let a faster group through, who wants to be pressured all round? It’s supposed to be fun.
@RHelenius
@RHelenius 5 жыл бұрын
I speed up my own game by imagining what my next shot is, and visualizing the different shots I have to make. I try not to spend a lot of time at my ball, considering which club or taking 5 practices swings. If I need to do that, I do it. But it's one of the ways I can see other players can speed up their game as well. It does frustrate me, when I am playing with someone(Usually older generation), they walk 200 yards to their ball, then start considering if they need to hit a hybrid og a pitching wedge. How to deal with that?
@Phunk51
@Phunk51 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly the thing that gets me with the slow play is putting. I peeves me that people who are obviously above a 20 handicap are lining up putts like their in the final round of the Masters. Get a read, hit the putt, move on. Don't mark your ball, clean it, line up the perfect lines up, get a 2nd reading, go to the other side, and then hit a putt. Also, for the PGA, get a shot clock out there. Don't make it 2 minutes either. We need a shot clock under a minute once it's their turn to hit.
@ajaytuk7416
@ajaytuk7416 5 жыл бұрын
Most pay and play courses have only themselves to blame with regard to slow play- get rid of the rough ( just have semi rough) so you can see where your ball is form 30 or 40 yards away. Clear the undergrowth etc- make it almost impossible to lose your golfball. I may be reminiscing a lot but certainly when I started playing the range of playing ability was much better than it is today. Take 4 x 24+ handicappers one or two is always going to have to look for their ball every hole plus they are taking 5 to 6 shots a whole, they are going to be slow- and its no real fault of theirs. However that sets the speed standard for every one behind them... go and play at a play and play 9:00AM with 3 of your mates and have a round ( take your camera ) you will have plenty of time to film. Its not to say you wont have a good time.:-)
@cormacmcguigan8359
@cormacmcguigan8359 5 жыл бұрын
Well said Pete 👍🏼⛳🏌️‍♂️ enjoy your game but don't hold others up unnecessarily
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
Cormac McGuigan exactly
@UTBaller22
@UTBaller22 5 жыл бұрын
I am going to give another revolutionary tip to the best way to speed up golf. Don't play slow! BOOM. YOU'RE WELCOME AGAIN KZbin. (btw, love the channel my man).
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
UTBaller22 haha cheers bud
@compa4929
@compa4929 5 жыл бұрын
Pete, in your experience is the game really slower now than say when you were 20yrs younger? I don't notice the game is any slower now than when I played in college.
@Chris-yj1zg
@Chris-yj1zg 5 жыл бұрын
Great impression 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 sure that guy plays at my club 🤣🤣
@philipdorney7531
@philipdorney7531 5 жыл бұрын
Here as usual any good courses to play in portugal while I'm here that you'd know of Pete ?
@derek2787
@derek2787 5 жыл бұрын
For me there is a subtle difference between slow play and a long round. If it's a fairly quiet day with not too many on the course, but you end up stuck behind an unnecessarily slow group, that's slow play and can, if you allow it to, be irritating. On the other hand, if the course is pretty full with no gaps anywhere, you know from the first tee that it's going to be a long round. The end result from both scenarios is going to be the same, yet we might get annoyed with one, but accept the other. I would suggest that we should treat both the same. Don't get me wrong, I'm far from a fan of unnecessarily slow play, but I play golf to relax and enjoy myself, I can't do either if, for 18 holes, I'm constantly moaning about the pace of play. We can choose to let it ruin our enjoyment or we can choose to mentally shrug our shoulders and let it go. I choose the latter option.
@brianwashere7966
@brianwashere7966 5 жыл бұрын
For me its about rhythm. My buddies and I always play ready golf. We'll give a cursory look for a ball that could be/is potentially lost. If we can't find it in a reasonable amount of time, we drop and move on. We target a 3-3.5 hour 18 hole play rate on a 7000 yards course and always hit that mark when we're unimpeded. We're not rushing but we're not gathering moss either. I'm over 50 and a steady play keeps me loose and my buddies say the same. Whenever we have to wait around on the tees for 5+ minutes while the group in front of us searches for .50 cent balls for what seems like an eternity its takes a toll on the old bones and muscles. And when that happens usually by the 12th hole fatigue and tightness sets in and makes the remaining holes unbearable to play.
@wanderingbrummie
@wanderingbrummie 5 жыл бұрын
Guess it’s not the price of the balls that keeps them searching but the desire to build a good score? I hate losing a ball if I’m scoring well.
@rossco1986
@rossco1986 5 жыл бұрын
Played 18 this morning took just over 4 hours and couldn't keep in on the plant this weekend!! Also stopped at halfway house for a sausage sandwich with brown sauce of course! 🌭
@waynedoherty73
@waynedoherty73 5 жыл бұрын
just finished a round with clive and barry only took 45 minutes this time.
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
waynedoherty73 haha
@joshanthony8534
@joshanthony8534 5 жыл бұрын
If you practice and get better, less shots equals shorter time
@rayhitchcock4899
@rayhitchcock4899 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, and practice can be fun and very rewarding later on the course. You never get anywhere without putting a lot of time into it.
@CJ-111
@CJ-111 5 жыл бұрын
I don't judge my round or shots by time. If I'm playing too slow, I'll pick the place up if need be. If the course is quiet, I'll take that extra 30-60 seconds.
@pauldavid22212
@pauldavid22212 5 жыл бұрын
Midweek round 3.5 hours walking is about my normal speed. Don’t bother with weekends as it’s just too busy and slow.
@nbirkett1
@nbirkett1 5 жыл бұрын
2 things that I notice a lot: If you're putting for bogey from 20 feet, there's absolutely no need to mark your ball, clean it, clean your putter face and look at the putt from 4 angles before hitting your shot. Most of my time is spent waiting to hit my approach shot while people take a long time on the green. If you're on the tee and the course is busy, have your club, ball and tee ready. So many times I'll see the first player in a group hit a tee shot, and the second player won't even have a club out. Please plan your shots while other people are hitting.
@davidnormington5407
@davidnormington5407 5 жыл бұрын
Typical round is 4hr. However, in Scottsdale summers an easy pace 2hr round can be had.
@Golfislife420
@Golfislife420 5 жыл бұрын
teamwork makes the dreamwork as hes filming alone!!
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
sean koster 😂
@Golfislife420
@Golfislife420 5 жыл бұрын
i can film and caddy if you need one!~
@dreadn0ught_k
@dreadn0ught_k 5 жыл бұрын
You drive a Focus? Man of class
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
Dreadn0ught haha I do not drive a focus
@potatocastmattyp502
@potatocastmattyp502 5 жыл бұрын
Another pet hate of mine is when I play on my own, and there’s a 3/4 ball in front and they don’t let me through! The excuse being “there’s a few groups ahead which are all slow”. Fair enough if I’m a 2/3 ball but when I’m a 1 ball, I can easily get a hole clear of people after only a hole or 2, maybe I have a chance of playing through everyone but I’m never have that opportunity when I’m not let through (sorry, a little rant from me 😂) I have more rants about this but I think I’ll save that for another time 😂
@TheGolfClan
@TheGolfClan 5 жыл бұрын
Would be curious to see a video about how to keep pace of play while recording every shot 🎥
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 жыл бұрын
The Golf Clan wouldn’t exactly be representative of the golfing community 😂😂
@zachmartin8230
@zachmartin8230 5 жыл бұрын
I play with a variety of handicap golfers, from 0 to 16. The most frustrating for me is the 16 handicapper trying to play the ball from a lie there is no way he going to get out of. Put the ball in play and learn to make good contact then play the ball down.
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