How To Stop A PACIFIST Run In Undertale (As A Monster)

[@Yuti640]

The myth of consensual pacifism Frisk: I consent! Toriel: I consent! Isn’t there someone you were forgetting to ask?

[@MANOFACTION-jh4fz]

Chara:1:14 no there isn’t😄❤️🔪

[@phacey4444]

Another option would simply be to kill enough weak monsters that there's no longer enough to equate to a single human soul, preventing floweys transformation

[@dumbkian]

dusttale

[@abdillahahmad7025]

Frisk: does neutral and works with the government to send convicted death row inmates (or their SOULs) to the Underground Although that wouldn't count as a normal pacifist run

[@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf]

This is what they call a dusttale moment

[@Not_Nik0]

@@abdillahahmad7025pressure

[@agsilverradio2225]

Or, break the 6 human souls out of captivity; if you want a less dark option.

[@sfsd_]

"hey frisk" "yah?" "can you not do pacifist today please?" "okay"

[@АсланИскаков-м9э]

"wait, how you know my name?"

[@sfsd_]

@@АсланИскаков-м9э "of i tell you this game will become to meta for you to understand"

[@Koiishi_Komeiji]

Just like the last time, Flowey is the main problem here Pacifist is impossible without neutral first, so no matter what we do at the first run, mostl ikely outcome is next run Flowey will say "Remember... Someone is framing you for the deaths of many monsters. You have to find who is doing it. OK? If you DON'T, you'll be miserable FOREVER. And we wouldn't want THAT, would we? No... We just want you to be happy, right? Good luck." And next time you kill someone (you will because you don't know if timeline was reset), you will get a human and a little murderous flower who's goal to keep everybody alive to become god are on your back Which means after another reset, instead of following with plan, you'll be hanging somewhere where no soul can find you, trapped by Flowey until after true lab The same result will be for almost every plan you can come up with Setting up a shop to block ruins exit? Flowey is getting you before you can even get items to sell Telling Undyne that human is leaving from ruins in 10 minutes? Too bad next timeline your mouth is filled with vines Ironically, the plan to steal 6 human souls before Flowey is the only one that has a chance of working

[@TheFirstMantoDie]

Wow, what a valid thing there is. It would be best for as much people as possible to learn about this before uh... Wait, what was I talking about just now?

[@Koiishi_Komeiji]

@@TheFirstMantoDie i really should change my pfp and nick

[@lunabruce1804]

That's assuming they even reset in the first place after Flowey's fight, he simply tells them to reload after all, and resetting would undo their progress of befriending everyone :ooooo

[@Koiishi_Komeiji]

@@lunabruce1804 You cannot befriend undyne if you've killed somebody Entire "good" plan is based on framing Frisk for monster's deaths, so you have to reset

[@lunabruce1804]

I guess you have a pointt

[@CatLiver1]

Im not gonna lie I thought psychological warfare was gonna be putting yourself in such a state of constant suffering that the human would think leaving you alive would be more cruel than killing you.

[@abdillahahmad7025]

The flaw in attempt 4 is Sans can detect Frisk's actual EXP and LV. Frisk would just need him as an attorney of sorts.

[@kodawanberg6887]

*objection. *You didn't even shout. *why would i? (START ACE ATTORNEY CHAIN)

[@RackerTheRascalMashup]

Good point, everyone also likes sans so they would Believe him over a random monster

[@dylanzlol7293]

So, why not search for a way to take sans down?

[@abdillahahmad7025]

@@dylanzlol7293 Flowey had save powers and still had to try a lot of times to beat sans. A regular monster would have next to no chance.

[@dylanzlol7293]

@@abdillahahmad7025 but flowey simply said that he caused him a fair share of resets after advising us to not let sans know anything about us, implying that flowey couldnt beat him in a regular fight, it's not like sans cant be killed by a surprise attack

[@Solesteam]

3:11 Become an overworld tutorial froggit, tell the human they cannot exit the ruins because the rest of the game is incomplete due to some severe security issues, glitches and bugs with their computer's operating system.

[@dakotacornish6616]

Another much easier option would just be to pour out all the water from the water cooler so the human cannot save undyne

[@Makaibros]

okay, that's absolutely a genius move nobody will suspect us of doing that and it's something that can happen without killing

[@mon0lin]

My idea was to just take the rocks from the ruins puzzle and leave them stuck forever in ruins but this is honestly even smarter ngl

[@ProfligateEater21753]

The Snowpiece in Frisk's pocket:

[@dakotacornish6616]

@@ProfligateEater21753 alright that adds an extra step of getting a snoe piece and i dont think boiling hot sea tea will do it so now the human is cooked

[@NotLancer2018]

Best way: Just become an overworld npc and block a doorway. Nobody can get past you if you don’t allow them to initiate a fight

[@deadguyagain]

1: learn the green soul technique from undyne (if possible) 2: sneak attack and either green soul them or never end your turn 3: profit from eternal suffering

[@dodo3095]

Not gunna lie an au where a random monster relentlessly chases down the human being as annoying as possible in hopes of dying sounds hilarious Also I think you are underrating the potential of killing papyrus. Sure, directly killing him wouldn’t work but I would set up a puzzle on one of hotlands bridges and just cut the ropes of the bridge while he’s doing it. Convincing him to try the puzzle would likely work if I just acted really sad that someone as cool as him wasn’t trying my puzzle. Another option is to just push the water cooler in hotlands into the lava so there’s no way to befriend undyne (or just push the button to dispense water until it runs out) this is probably the easiest and least dark way to do it and since it is all the way in hotland you have plenty of time to do it before the human gets there over and over no matter how many times they reset

[@ConnorMurphy-fo2or]

Papyrus is show to be able to fly

[@ConnorMurphy-fo2or]

I like the undyn idea tho

[@davidbrickey8733]

That water cooler idea is brilliant. It's maaaaaybe not Flowey-proof if he thinks to check on it early enough and stands guard, but barring that (and that seems unlikely) you're home free.

[@GodtrikzLMAgain]

"And because the human always has the first turn" Sans: are you sure about that?

[@CaptainUnown]

Pull a Gerson and set up a shop in front of any mandatory entrance The ruins exit, the tunnel to hotland, right in front of the King’s house, You can’t move through or go around a shop so Frisk would be stuck, and like Gerson says, “I know you can’t hurt me here” ( referencing how you can’t fight in a shop) It’s foolproof!

[@Jasher144]

... what if the human is fast enough to get through there before you

[@flower-hope-galaxy3866]

@@Jasher144 well, then call them out for breaking reality.

[@jkingsoul5115]

Pfff. This guy thinks reality is objective when the Punch Card exists. Shit is broken.

[@rascaltherascal]

@@jkingsoul5115 ...make sure the shop is before waterfall?

[@jkingsoul5115]

I mean. Sure. You can. Does not change my original statement in any form though.

[@Rainbowplayz-ix5ix]

Just kill one of the doggos and blame the human. Undyne becomes impossible to befriend if any of the dogs die.

[@Yogapants_73]

Undyne becomes impossible to befriend if ANYONE dies. She will hate you if you murder anyone under any circumstances so you can blame any murder on the human.

[@jruler93]

Yeah, and as long as you don't move during Doggo's turn, he can't touch you. Easy win.

[@gamercentral2417]

Similarly to what the comment below you says, sans can check XP so it wouldn’t work

[@gameingtothemax6266]

@@Yogapants_73 except asgore and flowey (if you befriend her), probably cause she knows asgore didn't give you a choice

[@YourLilZero]

That sounds good but sans can still detect your exp and LV and tell the truth to the monsters

[@TheZoruaKid]

Funny idea: Spend time hanging out with Napstablook, so when they need to fight mad dummy they aren't accidentally saved

[@davidbrickey8733]

This one's actually hilarious, but since Mad Dummy had run out of both kinves and minions to attack with, Frisk probably would have been able to Flee at that point even without outside intervention.

[@AmatsuneS2]

​@@davidbrickey8733 Mad dummy didn't give us our turn after she did miss the knife, just like sans

[@Bolufo099]

Or instead of lying to every single monster in the underground, you could lie to Alphys, saying that a very dangerous human is coming, and ask her to evacuate everyone like she does on the geno route

[@MoRiSeR_]

Just distract PAPYRUS while the human passes by. Get him to never meet the human. Or just kill a bunch of weak monsters before Flowey absorbs their souls.

[@danielsantoro6332]

Step one, run to Hotland. Step two, drink all the water from the water cooler. The human can't befriend Undyne anymore. Step three, victory!

[@Jasher144]

nope that wouldnt work frisk would prob go to alphys and ask for water or maybe just move undyne out of hotland

[@colecampbell6707]

I thought of a way of ending the Pacifist run. Empty the water fountain. Frisk can’t befriend Undyne if they can’t give her water.

[@Jasher144]

nope that wouldnt work frisk would prob go to alphys and ask for water or maybe just move undyne out of hotland

[@colecampbell6707]

@@Jasher144 the problem with those solutions is that Undyne is gone when Frisk leaves the water fountain area, and she would be too heavy for Frisk to move. One thing they could do is yell for Sans to help IF he’s still at the stand.

[@Mushrooms683]

Beat me to it lol.

[@Bobboerba]

It would be better to knok it over and make the tree

[@crazyanimations2097]

I have another idea, when Frisk falls down and meets Flowey for the first time, approach slowly from his back and DESTROY him. He's the one who broke the barrier anyway, so without him a pacifict route is impossible.

[@diegolopesme]

just become the rock in the ruins

[@elliecassar1881]

flowey is facing the front, so unless you distract him by maybe throwing a rock then getting behind him quietly u cant kill him like that

[@Jasher144]

its impossible to make NO sound so rip

[@crazyanimations2097]

@@Jasher144 well, Toriel DOES hit him tho.

[@xandtheironminer602]

Video idea: Can you complete a Genocide run as a monster? Idk if monsters can canonically LOVE up or not, though. You can figure that out if you do this idea.

[@shoebill4902]

Dusttale

[@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf]

I’m pretty sure they can since LV is just a measure of level of violence and while though monster and the underground has it, we know Flowey gained a lot

[@justjames4]

I would be interested in a video about that as well.

[@andrzej8144]

​@@shoebill4902 Well, it's not cannon AND has several mistakes when it comes to actual UT characters and all that (sans doesn't remember resets but in dusttale he does?)

[@Bobboerba]

Ez become monster steal the humans items kill everyone (no serieus just stealing the true knife and locket is all you need to sweep)

[@KyleRosenthal-pf7gu]

This is dark but what if you convince Alphys that she is beyond saving psychologically torment her to no end and convince her to well unalive herself. It’s dark but the whole story revolves around Alphys learning from her mistakes

[@archetypalheart7572]

That would be so fucked up... Might make for an interesting story tho

[@mimikyu4327]

So, i came up with a few ideas for each major character to prevent them from being befriended: Toriel: One of the harder ones, perhaps you could kill a random monster near the balcony and wait for her to return, crying over the dust. If ahe askes, tell her the human killed your friend through tears. Might convince her to try to kill Frisk, and might not be willing to help them against Asgore. Might not work and probably not necessary. Papyrus: Probably the most important one to deal with, since he invites the others to help against Asgore. Tell him about a puzzle in Hotland you want him to try to solve. This puzzle would be built on unstable ground, so when he tries to go and solve it, he falls into the lava. Sans: Most likely impossible to deal with. Undyne: Spill all the water from the water cooler, so the Human can't spare her and has no choice but to leave her behind. Alphys: probably the weakest link of the group. Tell her Asgore and everyone else in the Underground found out what she did in the true lab, and Asgore sent you to fire her. After this, she most likely disappears. Asgore: Most likely impossible to deal with, but also doesn't matter much.

[@theonetruemilkman4894]

Simply just convince Toriel to not check if a human has fallen by telling her about some kind of emergency in the Ruins. This way the player dies over and over to Flowey's initial friendliness pellets, and there is no way to escape it without Toriel's help.

[@13KuriMaster]

Another route could be to use Psychological Warfare on Alphys.... he's already suicidal at the start, and is implied to off herself in several neutral endings. You don't need to fight her to get rid of her... you just need to get her to do it herself sooner.

[@cyanideytcuriousseadoggo]

That can also stop a lot of endings. Timed right and infinite death loop to Mettaton

[@LuckyLuckLuc]

One thing you could also do, is tell Flowey about the fact that if they absorb all the monster souls, they will get emotion back, and seemingly, Flowey doesn't really want that from the dialog in the geno route. That way Flowey becomes photoshop Flowey as in a neutral route, and cant break the barrier even if frisk can somehow talk down Flowey from the photoshop form, nor would frisk be able to leave, as it takes the power of at least a human soul and a boss monsters soul to leave

[@LuckyLuckLuc]

This only works as long as you can find Flowey, but that might be okay as Flowey follows frisk, and you can just wait near where they pop up and tell them then

[@danielgonzalez-vm5lj]

Won't work at all his geno dialogue is literally about him trying to feel emotions again and failing Plus he does want the god powers

[@LuckyLuckLuc]

@@danielgonzalez-vm5lj "Curious what would happen if I killed them. "I don't like this," I told myself. "I'm just doing this because I HAVE to know what happens. Ha ha ha... What an excuse! You of all people must know how liberating it is to act this way." Failing, and accepting it, leaning into it Sure, before frisk fell, a long time ago, Flowey might have been not okay with killing, but now? just tell them that they would go back to caring and they *Might* go along with your plan (None of this is guaranteed, but could happen depending)

[@legendgames128]

TASers are the most determined kind of player, having control over the entire world in 1/30th second increments! They can rewind to ANY point, change luck, do things that no human should be able to do...

[@wiibi6996]

How does one defeat tas?

[@Joey498]

@@wiibi6996push the water cooler in the start of Borland’s into the water. Become any monster that has fire magic to burn the rope bride the human escapes undyne on so they can’t run away. Or my personal favorite, just be with napstablook when the mad dummy fight happens so he doesn’t save the human.

[@fadingdreamx]

*you try to tell the monster that you dont want to kill them. "Coward."

[@49gamer51]

If they don't have the bandage which guarantees a 100 percent chance to flee when it gets to your turn simply don't do anything this will probably even work in a genocide run as well as technically speaking the only instance of this ever happening is during the Sans battle on a LV 19 human like that's literally what I would do especially if I know that there's a genocide route going

[@Hypercube2017]

Me: _chases Frisk across the Underground trying to kill them/get killed_ Toriel: _yeets my [grass] into the void_ Me: _attempts to psychologically scar Frisk_ Toriel: _yeets me off the top of Mt. Ebott_ Me: _tries to kill Papyrus/Alphys_ Sans/Undyne: “You done [Frisked] up.” _proceeds to kill me themselves_ Me: _acts worse than Jerry, Glyde, _*_and_*_ Loox_ Me: _yeets _*_myself_*_ into Hotland’s lava_

[@joshuapohle6909]

Undyne can't be spared, you could just build a small wall and prevent the human from escaping to hotland, not letting them stop the fight with undyne until they either kill her (aborting the route) or undyne kills them, over and over until they give up.

[@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf]

Assuming the human isn’t strong enough to get rid of it that’s actually surprisingly effective and……. dark

[@ViniciusDiasissy]

Just wait untill there's some dialogue in the fight saying. "Undyne breaks the random wall behind her, just because she can"

[@randoncourter4923]

​@@ViniciusDiasissy*suplexes

[@gamercentral2417]

Wouldn’t exactly work. Any wall a basic monster can build can most likely be broken through

[@Puptoon2022]

Step 1: Start as Pyrope Step 2: Burn the bridge to Hotland down Step 3: Watch as the human can’t escape to Hotland and has to kill Undyne. Step 4: Profit?

[@knight123x4]

1. Be a Whimsun 2. Wait until ASGORE Fight (Before T.Pacifist) 3. Wait for them to start a FIGHT action 4. Jump in the way of the Human's attack 5. You instantly die due to being a Whimsun, resulting in EXP gained Profit!

[@Jasher144]

u have to be following them all times they would notice you and prob juke you out

[@knight123x4]

@@Jasher144 Fly high up, out of their line of sight Profit

[@wiibi6996]

@knight123x4 The underground has a celling though, so it's unlikely

[@knight123x4]

@@wiibi6996 True, however it is high up enough that the crystals up above seem like stars! Us Whimsuns would be completely unnoticeable at that height!

[@chasingcheetahs5017]

Before the run, what you need to do is tamper with a switch and the rest is history. if you know you know

[@gamerdomain6618]

Okay, but then they complete an UnderTale Yellow Pacifist route, which is technically an UnderTale Pacifist route.

[@chasingcheetahs5017]

@@gamerdomain6618 They don't get watched by Alphys (unless she puts cameras in the dark ruins which is implied to be abandoned completely in the pacifist route due to dialogue with Dalv) so it's unlikely they will be able to get to the true lab. Maybe I'm thinking too deterministic and instead in spite of a butterfly effect Flowey absorbs the human souls and the souls of most of the monsters.

[@gamerdomain6618]

@@chasingcheetahs5017 Well, to discuss this more seriously instead of making a joke out of it, it's not like it's impossible to rejoin the main path from lower ruins or lower Snowdin. It's just something that Clover cannot do because of Flowey. In fact, the fact that lower Snowdin is just as populated as upper Snowdin would imply the opposite; that there is likely a viable method of transit between the two that simply isn't seen directly in UnderTale Yellow. If this isn't Frisk's first try at a route, then they'll know to go to Papyrus already, so you'll probably be stuck with pursuing them until you stop them down there in some way.

[@chasingcheetahs5017]

​@@gamerdomain6618 And Frisk most likely won't go to dunes, as the only reason Clover got there is because they went there via the aviator. So even if there wasn't a way to go from lower Snowdin to upper Snowdin, they would probably find their way to lower Waterfall (if it even exists, and I just realized lower Waterfall exists in base Undertale, so it's very likely that Frisk would make their way to Hotland.)

[@TheNotSoGreat1]

Well, in theory, you could do your own genocide route to gain enough LV to match opponents like Papyrus, Undyne and even Asgore. You could also manipulate quite a few. Papyrus would be none the wiser if you propose a friendship, you could backstab Undyne by telling her that the human was attacking you and Asgore clearly has a distaste for murder so he probably would do his best to ovoid killing you

[@StarshadowMelody]

blow up the bridge. you know. the one papyrus had a bunch of traps on. get some C4 or TNT and turn that painted rock formation into rubble. make sure you get the whole thing you don't want to let the human parkour across the gap. You might be able to kill off an important character using a trap, as well. It might not need to be an explosive one, but everyone likes explosions.

[@Chill-person-here]

0:13 wow that’s gonna be fun… I might join, probably not I’m mostly lazy 🤷 who knows, I might do it later

[@realPurpleOrb]

I would simply make sure every encounter is triple Jerry. If that doesn't work, nothing will.

[@AndromedasCartoon]

A valid reason I could think of for stopping a pacifist route is the fear that other humans would declare war if the monsters make it out of the underground...

[@megaday3373]

you are so underrated your editing is great! automatic sub!

[@userunknown5322]

attempt 5 idea: commit a Dust Sans and kill EVERYTHING. (no monsters are befriend able, because. well. you killed every. single. one. best you can get in that case is a neutral.)

[@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf]

Get enough LV to start going after the stronger monsters like undying and papyrus gets crushed by sans because you don’t have time reset and load abilities to memorize attacks Get stopped by Flowey could also be an option since you’d be infringing on the plan Get stopped A determination extractor in true lab or Asgore

[@gamercentral2417]

That’s near impossible.

[@userunknown5322]

@@gamercentral2417 near. not truly impossible.

[@gamercentral2417]

@@userunknown5322 yeah sure. The gap between a normal monster and a guard is insane. You ain’t getting past doggo

[@andrewlmagnuson]

broggit: through an entire AU of braindead people, this froggit is the only smart one. takes the appearence of a normal froggit, weapons: a tank, trash lid, tounge. he once said "SCREW GAME LOGIC, SCREW POWER SCALING, AND SCREW YOU

[@Tyron-sd9hg]

As you know, my genocide stopping plan was pull a sans first turn and stop them from having theirs, using sugary items to stay awake, however, that plan would mean I’d go first, so.. why not just refine the plan? 1. Grab as many sugary items as possible 2. Teach the rest of the generic monsters my strategy. 3. FORCE THEM TO QUIT BY SHEER STALLING FOR DAYS ON END. (If we run low on items just throw them impossible to dodge attacks to kill them and restock.)

[@Drago_Cuven]

spend time with the human, then, when toriel leaves them, leave with toriel and act like the rest of the underground has become absoltely feral with few sane monsters left, act like they've even considered cannibalism and would happily eat eachother let alone a small fragile human. that way toriel immediately decides to destroy the exit before the human even gets to toriel's house.

[@32th]

you could also just kill Flowey. Flowey is the only one who can absorb all 6 human souls AND the monster souls, so if he's dead, the barrier can't be broken

[@Bobboerba]

Asgore: unle- Everyone: NO!

[@Ligmaत्यो]

dustbelief papyrus (if its the remake that you play as papyrus even better he is my favorite undertale charactor and here is a fun fact he makes twice the puns that sans does)

[@Hypercube2017]

This… *_de-escalated_* quickly?

[@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf]

Flowey: i’m taking notes. This will convince frisk😑 to do genocide for sure. 🌻

[@RackerTheRascalMashup]

Flowey: do you want me to not become god that badly?

[@Solesteam]

There are a few common monsters that may be able to sneak around, the flying ones, maybe a moldybyg... perhaps maybe even a temmie (not the shopkeep, the commoners) a pyrope might be a good option with their solid stats and rope body if not for the fire head... They're chaotic enough like the annoying dog... Perhaps a microfroggit, they're not enemies in the official game but they are a canonical creature and likely a subspecies of Froggit so you may be able to just hop right on by Asgore and wedge yourself into one of the soul jars to screw flowey over, or better yet, use the power of that one soul to nab the others and kill Asgore, become the next monster King! The tyrannical microfroggit! Destroyer of worlds!

[@bipolaro4ka352]

..Flowey laughs and goes underground, a human comes out of the ruins. Froggit jumps into the room and screams at the top of his voice: "Hey, Asriel, my niga, let's have a chat." "What did you just say?" Flowey reappeared and grabbed the frog with vines. "Oh, I just want to tell you that I know everything about you, Dreamurr." "HOW?" - the vines are shrinking harder. "Well, let's just say we're in the same boat. You appeared as a result of experiments on determination and got the opportunity to save. So, I got this ability earlier, you see, I'm also the result of an experiment. I saw flowers that came to life, some even almost resembled conscious monsters. I was afraid that a flower or other entity would appear, determined enough to take away my ability to save. So I killed them all, and that's why you lost the opportunity to appear and got a new cut." Flowey seemed to go berserk, but then he restrained himself with all his might and said: "Carry on frog" "Thanks for your patience, so... I was doing about what you were doing when you got this power. At some point, I got bored and decided to wait for the seventh human, and with their appearance, I realized that I had lost my ability to save. At this point, I already thought that this was the end of my undertale, but I decided to observe and then took advantage of the fact that a man wounded Asgore and, killing him, I got souls. The souls rebelledlost and I lost. Human left the underground." "Did you lose by having SOULS? Wow, you're such an idiot." "Yeah, and I got the ability to save again and decided that I could use a partner, I added more determination to one of the flowers and after a while I realized that you just took away my ability." "Either you're lying, or you're really an idiot." "Well, how would I know everything then, right? In the end, I decided to pretend to be an ordinary Froggit" "It's a neat story, but how did you know I was a Dreamurr?" "Well, being a crying flower, not everyone calls *them* "... Well, how do you want to defeat a human? We still can't save" "I don't want to anymore. Just don't worry about it, you can't beat the power to save. I tried, I did my best and I couldn't." "Just because you couldn't, doesn't mean I can't." "You're going to lose anyway, mark my words." "... Don't bother me or I'll do to you the same thing you did to me." Flowey grew legs and ran away. Some time later... "Souls? What are they... Oh..." Flowey gave up the battle. "Well, you've won." "Great, now you can suck on my giraffe balls." "What the fuck, go fuck yourself" Frisk, having no idea how to get a better ending, decided to leave the underground and make a more popular rap. End.

[@bradleyoneill1938]

what if we kill sans with a rock when he wasn't looking

[@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf]

Flowey:He would just dodge……. just trust me on this OK Chara:🔪❤️

[@Solesteam]

4:36 Not if you do it every time... until Flowey gets irritated with you constantly doing this one ruins cutscene over and over...

[@Chill-person-here]

Ooo this is gonna be interesting : 0

[@Chill-person-here]

14 minutes ago!? I just texted this? Sheesh time passes quick | :

[@bruhntastic3021]

Hi nice video brother

[@Osmicombo]

dig a trench at the end of snowdin, burn the riverpersons boat. Checkmate, no kills. Pacifist Pacifist prevention.

[@aboogala4678]

I'd just be a Froggit NPC and eternally block the Rock from going on the switch. Can't befriend people if you never get to meet them.

[@MasterofInterspace]

5:40 Not to mention, Flowery would also be there. With the same plan. And wouldn't care for Migosp taking the souls from him

[@zachattack9455]

Alternatively, you could block the way to an important area (like the true lab), therefore Frisk would have to to kill you to proceed, since running away wouldn’t do anything for them.

[@humbleskye]

I could just be a dog and eat the letter then there will be no pacifist run

[@danielgonzalez-vm5lj]

Undyne gives the EX letter which is impossible to drop would probably not be possible to eat either its too tough

[@Bobboerba]

@@danielgonzalez-vm5lj lava

[@JudgementBird643]

What if you drain all of the water from the water machine in Hotland, making it so Frisk can't rehydrate Undyne?

[@theWavesinger]

If you were a microfroggit, you could easily sneak into the throne room and absorb the human souls

[@Mushrooms683]

Destroy the water jug in hotland!

[@dragaciusmb4946]

Another option would be to simply barricade the ruins door. Can't befriend everyone if you're forced to live with goat mom forever.

[@thejester4130]

I have antoher idea that could work, try to get the group of monsters who are family to the amalgamates to attack or confront alphys, if we can frame alphys like she is hiding their family and did horrible experiments on purpose, we could get them to confront her. Then wither through getting the mob to kill her, or making her feel guilty enough where she would probably end her life in the dumb(did not say it was the most cheery idea) alphys would be out of the picture

[@ExpectoPetroleum]

1. Sneak into Alphys's lab 2. Steal all leftover dt (and if possible make dt extractor work and get the rest from amalgamates and flowers that didn't come to life because of lack of Asriel's essence on them) 3. Inject all of it into you, becoming an invulnerable amalgamate 4. Become a scripted encounter in the True lab and don't let human spare you (fleeing from amalgamates is impossible so that problem is solved) 5. You've successfully prevented a true pacifist run

[@mastermewtwo5503]

There is funny enough, a simple issue that can be exploited (as some other people pointed out): Undyne. Her whole deal is being determined and only wanting you dead. Frisk has no choice but to flee, so you can either make a barrier of some kind before Frisk can escape to Hotland, or warn Undyne to simply not allow it and keep Frisk's soul green. Then afterwards, a back up plan is to empty out the water cooler at the Hotland entrance. If Frisk somehow gets there and Undyne chases until dehydration, they won't be able to get the water to rescue Undyne.

[@Quenemnomeseiimaginaisso]

-Final froggit -go to new home and pick the worn dagger and heart locket(no real knife or The locket because we are'nt in genocide route) -go to ruins -kill all monsters -go to snowdin -kill papyrus =No souls enough to flowey turn asriel,and no befriend papyrus.

[@worldwideanimation2345]

Okay, I am back from the last video and ready to give my own strategy, ok, here's the plan: first, the monster, I know it doesn't sound good but hear me out, temmie, imagine you are Alphys, going about your business when suddenly, there is a knock at the door, a temmie, you are confused when suddenly "Alphys, I know what you did in that laboratory, I know what happened to all those monsters I won't tell anyone, but you need to seal it, turn off the power to the door, block it off, seal it shut from the inside with cement, anything, this is an urgent matter, someone is coming, someone who knows, and they are going to cause every last monster in the underground to die, but if they cannot enter the lab, then the end of all monsterkind shall be prevented, go Alphys, and never let the human in. And the best part is you didn't even technically lie to her, you just didn't mention it would be temporary, worst comes to worst and the human is a speedrunner so fast Alphys doesn't have time, shoot and break mettatons switch, bam, no mettaton means WAY less media attention, mettaton is probably why ALL of the monsters in the underground show up, it's a gamble but it's also just a last resort.

[@KaydanWestfall]

fool-proof solution: be any monster in the ruins, be befriended by the human and follow them on their journey, up until they're in the undyne fight and undyne collapses due to heat-stroke. all you have to do then is push them into the lava, cut the bridge, or kill undyne in any other way to prevent pacifist route, and flowey can't do anything if you're constantly near the human. the only issue would be convincing toriel that you're trying to "help" the human, but even that might be possible if you play the "i wanna help my friend" card

[@yeetman2610gaming]

You could wait until undyne causes the soul to go green, kill undyne yourself, and then become an enemy in the battle. The human cannot flee since their soul is green.

[@Jenb13171]

Step 1:become froggit Step 2:kill whimsun Step 3:LV is how willing you are to hurt not your power Step 4:laugh

[@lightningfan21]

step 1: be vulkin, no reason in particular i just like vulkin step 2: throw the water cooler into the lava step 3: frisk can no longer help undyne, victory

[@PixelPalettes]

The beginning announcement reminded me of when I made an Undertale OC who was the kid of Dogamy and Dogaressa… I don’t remember what they looked like though

[@expepem189xl3]

Actually, you can probably do a Pacifist Pacifist Stopping, by simple: Befriending Papyrus and taking them to some EXTREME cook-off somewhere away from the Human path.But you maybe will need to time everything correctly, because Papyrus would probably try to return to stop human shortly after cook-off. It will work due to the fact that Papyrus is Requared to breach a gap beetween Human and Undyiying (i forgot the name), so if there will be No Papyrus, Human cant befriend her, and make her go on date with Alphys, so that would mean that they cant get in the lab, and yata yata yata.

[@Thankedsphere99]

For attempt 2 you could maybe also just piss them off enough their LOVE increases, if Undertale. Yellow is canon.

[@Vulpes_Brandy]

I think the easiest way to prevent a true pacifist run would be to remove or empty the water cooler in Hotland. Then Undyne will get sick from the heat and the human can't befriend her.

[@worldwideanimation2345]

VEGETOID AGAIN, BURROW, TAKE THE SOULS, KILL ASGORE+ALPHYS, WIN.

[@lazar5113]

Steal one of the lily pads in the first waterfall puzzle and force the human to kill you to get the lily pad they cant proceed unless they get the lily pad

[@heswallowedburningcoals19]

Easy. Empty out the water cooler before the human faces Undyne. Even if they run away, it becomes impossible to befriend her if you don’t give her water in Hotland, as she becomes too overheated to engage with the human further. Pacifist route ended!

[@blazie42069]

Also another option is to just pull a sans and trap them in a never ending battle since eventually they will die regardless since they don’t have the love to break out

[@gamercentral2417]

Wouldn’t work. Sans could only do that cause he cheated and has some sense of self awareness. Also because he’s probably not from this world Also the human would just instantly spare you by moving to the spare button

[@blazie42069]

i mean without a high enough lv they can’t move the box and if you end the battle they still can’t break out

[@gamercentral2417]

@@blazie42069 wrong. 1. There’s nothing implying moving the box is level locked 2. It automatically ends the box too, so yes they can break out

[@TimothyHolden-t2t]

You could just kick the water dispenser in before undyne chase the human. To stop them from pouring it on her or destroying the camera during the mettaton neo fight to stop the human from getting the rating up to 10,000.

[@AGoodUsernameWithoutNumbers]

My solution is stopping toriel from getting to the human at the start of the game. There should definitely be some way to stop her at one of the puzzles like blocking the door of the first puzzle, allowing flowey to kill the human

[@CR1MSONACE]

6:45 And even if they do find you, what are they gonna do to stop you killing monsters? Kill you? I think not.

[@gamercentral2417]

Incapacitate/alert the guards

[@lancerino2099]

i doubt the way you presented would've worked, it seems clear that a few monsters other than sans can know either if you've killed someone or not, like when undyne refused to hangout with you if you have more than 0 xp (considering you couldve killed someone in the ruins and she would never have found out), so other monsters and alphys would be like "nah.... this one is chill...."

[@randomperson5289]

The dusttale solution, kill everyone yourself, grind exp, move up to stronger monsters, then kill papyrus, then hide your appearance isnt unique so you can hide amongst your kind

[@Borispocalypse]

my oc is called mountaindewman, and xe has a lime green mohawk, cool sunglasses, and mountain dew powers (think if woshua had a poison gimmick and was the final boss)

[@yeetman2610gaming]

1.Become froggit 2. Name yourself Shayy 3.??? 4.profit

[@clivah1499]

the framing plan sounds good 'till you remember that the waterfall is being overseen by undyne. Also, Alphys oversees the underground. And Toriel kinda knows who the human is so they'd forgive them and still protect them. (No way of disturbing frisk while toriel around) And that's not including the spiders, The ghosts, The flying enemies, The tsunderplanes. So, overall, no matter what you do, you're going to have witnesses. ... yea the plan ain't working, chief

[@crazymartin526]

Okay but what if, we spawn camp the human? If they are mad enough they won't be in mood to spare and may kill few monsters to get rid of some of their anger

[@CharaYela]

Honestly, we could combine Attempt 4 and 3. We just need to kill all the weaker monsters, then become strong enough to kill the snowdin monsters THEN we kill Toriel. That's it, the cutscene of a pacifist run can't happen if Toriel isn't around or something. The thing is, we should kill Toriel after the human reached waterfall. So we can be completely sure that they SAVE after Toriel's dead, they won't even know. Now of course, killing all the Ruins and Snowdin monsters after the human has gone to the end of Snowdin can't really give that much EXP but considering that a full power attack from a boss is 9 or 12 and the HP of a normal monster is equal or above 70, if you combine this and the max HP you gained after level up's, you would almost probably reach Toriel's health and being able to tank most of her attacks. Even better if you do the optimal loox (which is just picking on them), you would fight Toriel at level 8 (or 9 maybe.). In conclusion, you and your extra hp and attack could theoredically kill Toriel and so end a Pacifist run. (And if you feel like you want to secure this outcome, you could try and kill Papyrus BUT there's the chance that you won't be able to finish him due to the other monsters evacuating (because dud, it's not like nobody would notice monster's starting to die) or the human finishing the Undyne date making her arrive to snowdin and probably stop you on the spot) I just realized how much i wrote. *Man.*

[@reesewhittington6778]

Simple answer: Blockade the Ruins so that nobody can leave them.

[@gameingtothemax6266]

actually attempt 3 can be done with more than just papyrus alphys and undyne, because flowey is an important part of the pacifist route too, as is his manipulations, and flowey is quite weak on his own, so yeah, just kill flowey alternatively just start your own genocide route dusttale style so that 1 you gain LV and can kill a major character, and 2 there aren't enough monsters left to make flowey into asriel and he just gets stuck as omega flowey

[@toekneemart5597]

I thought the guilt trip option would be guilt tripping alphy's I feel like implying knowledge and attributing guilt about the true lab could probably go a long ways(or maybe steal and eat the key(might have to eat it repeatedly) can't enter the true lab without the key which they can't get without killing you(assuming they can't do surgery and it doesn't somehow leave your body))

[@SuperBatSpider]

Complete the trilogy, how do you stop a Neutral run? Force them to pick one extreme.

[@jruler93]

After Undyne gives Frisk the letter for Alphys, you could tackle them to steal it. Then steal the second letter, then Alphys can't be befriended. Alternatively, just stand in front of the door to the True Lab. Heck, you could even put something in front of the door, since the player can't move most objects.

[@shellpoptheepicswordmaster755]

You can't drop the 2he letter

[@jruler93]

@@shellpoptheepicswordmaster755 You can't drop it, but that's not to say that, if there were some entity capable of stealing items from Frisk, that it couldn't be stolen (though if enemies could steal from Frisk and Undyne's Letter DX were stolen, then that'd be a pretty miserable way to lose a TPE run).

[@didu173]

My original character is called black froggit. Black froggit is a shadow figured made by mental problems of gaster associated by the fall. "How was the fall you could say ey? Ribbit." Anyway, trully black froggit is peak fiction that hasnt been achieved before. He only appears at a fun value of 38 because thats black froggit's favourite number. Also, if you get fun value of 83 (his most disliked number) you can fight him on a genocide run after beating sans. You just have to interact with asriel in the wild east. You cant kill starlo, because he will unleash the black froggit on to you. Black froggit has 38 atk (his favourite number) and 83 def. (His most disliked number) Please put the black froggit to the game deltarune. Oh please scott cawthon.

[@BlockAgent007_]

Well if you think about it, Flowey won't be able to break the barrier unless he has enough monster souls to add up for a 7th human soul. So probably killing a bunch of generic monsters is enough to stop the run.

[@Mech3001]

Just go to Hotland entrance and knock the water dispenser into the lava so the player can’t befriend Undyne

[@PandaPiguinOfficial]

napstablook but he actually is up for it this time and uses sans’ special attack

[@reubenthenerd1815]

Or just place a box on any necessary passage so the human cant progress