How to stop complaining about GMs and BECOME the Grandmaster instead.

since i couldn't really get anyone to submit any gameplay of their team in GMs way back when and because i'm tired of people complaining about battleground GMs, i wanted to make a more up to date "how to handle GMs" video. coach datto here to tell you that if i gotta hear from a legendary scout rifle user ONE MORE TIME that it takes 47 shots to kill something in a GM, that i'm gonna lose my mind.
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[@JU1CETN]

“GMs are too difficult” my brother in christ you picked the hardest difficulty what did you think would have happened

[@superdaveozy7863]

I expected it to be Devil's Lair, so I can farm. Some are just wayyyyyyy harder than others. Freaking Lightblade.

[@jesusramos2796]

@@superdaveozy7863 skill issue

[@alex-gh9uu]

@@superdaveozy7863 nah, lightblade is easy. Battlegrounds are way harder tbh

[@blacksmithn7562]

Your cooking ​@@alex-gh9uu

[@ready1player31]

I mean they’re not even really THAT hard. There’s some master mode challenges that are harder

[@ShiverPike]

in a lot of gms, it’s more valuable to use supers and heavy on bursting down groups of champions or ads than bursting a boss.

[@Subsistence69]

Facts. And by doing that, you save your ammo for said boss anyway

[@Soup-10]

Yeah like I always use my Goldie’s on champions as if they stunned they always die and give back half the super

[@FrostReach66]

The amount of people I’ve played with who never use their super until the end of the GM on the boss is so beyond infuriating

[@r3al_b00gieboi]

Especially on GMS like Lightblade I just use primary on the boss and save my heavy for the champs

[@chefpunjab]

People like to save their supers for some reason...want to bring it home to mom..lol. I always scream-- make orbs......just make orbs. Things happen after that

[@Atlantic_dummie]

My friend's gonna need this for his hero nightfall runs

[@sopcannon]

practise with legend lost sectors

[@boxcar9407]

We all been there.

[@bezolsmate]

nothing worse than spending 16 minutes in Lake of Shadows because people forgot hero nightfalls still have champions

[@oxsila]

I don't know if they forgot, they probably just don't know lmao. Probably brand new@@bezolsmate

[@-Benja]

​@bezolsmate I swear lake of shadows gm is so easy! But that makes people think they can run around like its a vanguard op and makes the gm take like 30 + minutes its so anoying

[@benvezner6104]

2 pieces of advice I can give are: -Don't feel rushed cause of the timer, going slower and playing cautiously while learning a strike is a great way to see what types of enemies spawn where and when they spawn. -Find a "home base". Most areas in strikes have some sort of safe area that you and your team can call home and poke at enemies. This is a great place to assess the battlefield and plan an attack and if someone runs up on you, it gives you some time to prep so you don't panic.

[@dankerbell]

ngl i never even thought about the timer once, if it gets to the point where the timer might be an issue then it hasn't been going smoothly the entire time

[@ChaosRaych]

Yes! Just to add to that, don't risk your life over a Champ stun. Even if a Barrier or Overload is about to go back to full health, don't peek while you're weak. Let it go, play your life & reset. I see too many people leave themselves open bc they're thirsting after a Champ. I was guilty of it too when I first started running GMs

[@phonkydude2390]

If you are doing it consistently killing all champions and not dying nothing else matters, dont rush perfection

[@alexchong1757]

My preconceived notions of GMs aren't based on an experience I had three years ago. No, my preconceptions about GMs are ENTIRELY based on Jez videos.

[@n3rc347]

underrated comment

[@PyroZero_]

what an absolute banger of an intro

[@ZenithCipher]

“Pick *almost* any exotic primary!” Me eyeing my Tommy’s Matchbook: imma pretend I didn’t hear that almost.

[@ghostridernz17]

I mean its an ignition monster so its fine

[@ordohereticus5530]

Tommy with Precious Scars is a solar ignition god

[@Avoncarstien]

*any* solar exotic primary is good this season. The artifact mods carry bigtime. The scorch ones even moreso. Hell Skyburners is damn good. It's always been good but Polaris benefits more from the mods.

[@drewnader1726]

Works great with lorely splendor and the fragment that gives you class ability when you scorch.

[@Avoncarstien]

@@drewnader1726 no, in GMs you wanna ditch Lorely for Precious Scars. Yes, I know it looks hideous but *screw* the 500% class ability recharge for scorching and embrace the 400% EVERY ability recharge for bestowing restoration on your entire fireteam ^_^

[@FaIlHiGH]

Been helping a new light friend through all that the end game PvE content has to offer. She’s learning the ropes. She’s not the best of the best. However, she’s willing to learn and just plays the game while doing her best. She started GMs this season and gotten Conquerer this season. She’s 3 GMs away from gilded. Far from optimal. Doesn’t have the perfect or best builds. However, she’s willing to learn, knows that living is the most important, and just focus on having fun. Not the bullshit way you died to a double crossbow shot that took you down from 100 to 0 in Heist Battlegrounds: Moon

[@akka8588]

Good for her. I wish her luck with getting her conquerer title gilded.

[@sicklymoonlight]

i wish her luck in her destiny career

[@adamboy0559]

Yeah your doing amazing helping new lights. Nothing feels better to me than helping someone get something done they didn’t think they could before hand.

[@NorthEastMick]

Run the nightfall on master until you become super familiar with add spawns, champion spawns and what your build is capable of and when you feel confident that you’ve covered all bases you’re ready to run your GM. That’s the best advice I can give.

[@Subsistence69]

I second this. I usually run a master before the GM to warm up and refresh my memory and tweak my build if needed

[@emilebilodeau1954]

@@Subsistence69holy shit its the best perk in the game!!!

[@Subsistence69]

@@emilebilodeau1954 Yesssiirrrr!! 🫡💙

[@phonkydude2390]

This type of activities tent to be more of a memory game: Where is the safe space in this specific room? Where are the spawns? How many about each type of enemy spawns in that room? What enemies are you priority? Etc. etc.

[@NorthEastMick]

@@phonkydude2390 Exactly this 👆

[@therockfan10001]

Acquire options in the sandbox. What makes a GM easier for some versus others (experience aside) is having more options to work with. Get weapons for each element with good rolls. It might not be the meta weapon, but it might be the right weapon for a given GM if the surge and champion mods work out that way. Once you do that, you can run that favorite weapon of yours and use your options to fill out the difference. Example from this year alone: Osmiomancy Warlock deals with Unstoppable/Overload by default. So you can run literally anything you want for those activities. If you need barrier, throw on a sidearm, an intrinsic anti barrier, or just run the radiant mod. This is what I mean by options.

[@kidbu916]

This is what most of my Destiny play time is spent doing. Getting good weapons with solid rolls so that I can do whatever situations.

[@minkernator]

100% this

[@Hugh_Jas]

Can confirm, having 300 weapons I never use actually does help. Conqueror x11 because I can adapt to whatever the challenge is.

[@therockfan10001]

@@Hugh_Jas It is hilarious but true.

[@mrcloudd5185]

Love the video. I think commentary over GMs would help out new players see the lessons put in practice. I have noticed some of my less experienced friends get overwhelmed by the shear amount of things happening at once. I think that is part of what makes it so difficult for some players to learn spawns as they spend most of their time trying to desperately stay alive. It would also serve as a place for busy players to learn spawns and correct target priority without spending time on the game if they don't have that time.

[@karkland]

solo player with 2 things I would recommend: 1) try lower level nightfalls. those help with getting in the groove of GMs. lowest level is even matchmade 2) take it slow. its not a damn race and the amount of times ive wiped because my teammates tried to race through a room is insane

[@omgnonamesicanuse]

Yeah, commentate on your gms. Even as a veteran FPS gamer and all that, I’ll still find knowledge from watching your vids. You’re the best, dude.

[@yimyams906]

love your content. i havent played Destiny in like 2 years+ and i dont miss a guide video, a gameplay video, a build video, or a thoughts video. the transition is dope and this channel is still somehow so enjoyable to me

[@MajorityFFA]

Thank you for making this video. While I personally don’t need this info, I do LFG a ton and the amount of times I run into people who are so clueless about exotic primary weapons is far too many

[@thomashicks9536]

I for one would love to hear your commentary on your GM clears.

[@randommixedletters]

Another thing to bring up for Strand suspend titan, as I just finished running through the GM list just to get the conqueror pip, is the new exotic Wishkeeper bow. With you already suspending everything in sight, you can just get large amounts of bonus damage on everything, while also making up for the suspend nerf by tossing traps along the ground and having a great time with it. It's no 'literally a special weapon' like quicksilver, but it at least plays to the strengths really well and feels quite nice. Also the only parts about battle ground GM's I hate are the Savathun projections, want to talk about needlessly tanky bullet sponges that insta kill you? Those witches are the things to focus on. Literally 3 people throwing spears and you each have to do 2 near full spears before they finally go down for no reason other than to randomly make you die from getting to bored to pay attention to their obscene AOE blasts. They could get that bar cut in half and I would not be mad. Rest of the experiences are pretty fun though.

[@matthewtimms1764]

I’m now gilded conqueror (7) all from solo lfg, no mic. Make sure you can heal and make sure you can stun all champs. Learn champion spawns and play with the team. Watch guide videos and copy builds. I did the cosmodrome Gm this season vengeful whisper and indebted kindness and a g-horn. This is a fun game. Start making the most of it

[@dankerbell]

yeah true, obviously communication is best for everything but i've never had any problems and i've only ever used mics for raids because it's actually necessary, but even dungeons and gms you can pretty easily go silent because there's simple mechanics in dungeons and none at all in gms, you just have to focus on staying alive and killing stuff

[@oxsila]

The one time I needed a mic was when Lightblade GM first came out and the strats for the bossroom weren't quite there yet. But yeah apart from that, enough experience and you can pretty much do any GM without a mic.

[@jacobs4]

would absolutely watch GM commentary. i remember WAY back when you did Q&A or guides over them in D1 -- something super refreshing and relaxing watching you do something so casually that's a true challenge for most

[@Sasha-mf6kv]

From someone who has done almost 700 GM's I've done carries, speedruns and solo runs. One major tip I can give that I see a lot of players not do (As long as your team isn't using rockets behind you) is strafe!!! A lot of Pve enemies actually really struggle to hit you if you strafe it won't make you invincible but it will help reduce the incoming damage you receive.

[@johndeacy8564]

Best video ever you've said word for word, exactly what I tell my clan mates, yet I get ignored, and yet they are still to complete a GM

[@Subsistence69]

Damn, not completing ANY gm? I exclusively lfg and Ive guilded like 3 times. Sorry about your clan 😂

[@swyrles4541]

Thank you Datto :)) Im hoping I'll be able to win a GM sometime before final shape!!

[@chefpunjab]

Love gms. The things that happen with different combos of builds between 3 friends or 3 strangers is insane

[@hobob1122]

Here’s another tip: when you’re about to die, just start repeating “I’m dead” over and over. Guaranteed to keep you alive

[@reformedctrlz]

Love hearing this stuff from you Datto. I have what you might call medium light experience with GMs, I have conqueror, but rarely get more than a handful of clears on more than 2-3 GMs per season. I can walk through the easy ones with zero effort, and the harder ones are doable if there’s a decent way to execute on them. Would love to see some commentary on some of the “hard” (TM) GMs chatting through weapon choices pros/cons and dealing with some of the higher difficulty encounters. Maybe some Sportscaster Datto coverage of successful and failed encounters? I don’t think having a full end to end run of most GMs is super necessary considering that most GMs contain encounters that are fairly obvious as well as one that are much more deadly, maybe focusing on those deadly encounters keeps the whole video super engaging rather than loosing people on the “oh I know how to do this part” sections. Love your stuff, best of luck!

[@DustinMikkelsen]

I hadn't run a GM in years, but teamed up with some guys from work and we did Crota, farmed Last Wish, and did a GM. Now we play together every week.

[@xspectre_id]

Really awesome to see you vibing Hierarchy of Needs. I’ve been using it loads this season and I’m loving it.

[@drewnader1726]

Same. People hate on me for using it, but it's been crushing this season.

[@Goose683]

on the topic of you providing commentary on your own GM runs, I think that would actually be really helpful for the people who need it.

[@TalonRedskye]

Gilded Conqueror multiple times & still coming to these videos for advice, there's always room to learn & always advice to take. Doesn't matter who you are, time in = experience = efficiency.

[@kevinzielinski9568]

Absolutely would love a voice over of what you're thinking playing a GM!

[@MrBraxtonP]

Elitest Datto content. Finally.

[@cgpazevedo]

Two things I like to emphasize to people: trust on your team mates when they make a call, and when 2 people go down, I will usually call for whoever is left (depending on which super) to just use his super. Most roaming supers have massive damage resistances and even if you dont kill a thing, it can allow you to reposition or get a res in a difficult position, just in general get some breathing room .

[@andyshearer8142]

Great video, I used to struggle with even Solo Legend Lost Sectors because I didn't understand how to set-up my Loadout. Now I have done Flawless Solo Master on pretty much all of them. GMs are another step-up but the Lost Sectors are great preparation.

[@TheAlpabot]

Your commentary for your GMs would be great! I think a video going through the spawns of enemies and good spots to fight from for each nightfall would help a lot of people .

[@quinncandler6886]

hugely interested in commentary on your own GM clears!!! What you're doing, not doing, and thinking/making choices about, is so so helpful to mid-tier gamers (like ur boi) trying to upgrade from master to grandmaster level content. Esp when I work a million hours a week and don't have the time investment to learn just by doing, the payoff of learning the right strategies to focus on is huge

[@davidredsox]

Thanks for the video Datto. You kinda went fast over this part, but honestly I think the "no double primary" part of the video is one of the most important things. So many people I come across still use two primary weapons and a heavy, even in higher difficulty content. I don't understand the thought process, especially since primary ammo has been infinite for so long now. Get a good primary, get a waveframe GL or fusion rifle, and a non-sword heavy weapon and go to town. There's no need to waste a weapon slot on a second primary weapon that you'll swap to after your first one runs out of ammo.

[@radtacular2218]

I'm absolutely ready to have that conversation about Battleground GMs. I'm with you, I think they're great and I'm happy they've meant numerous new GM puzzles to crack.

[@aaronarnold6444]

Great video and great advice for those who want to tackle GMs for the first time!

[@tazthenightfury2055]

One tip I use for gms is playing your life. While a death doesn't set you back too badly, if you're careless and rushing through, you're gonna waste your revives more often than not. If you have to run to a safer position to deal with a situation, do it

[@mildchaos6037]

I’ve never had a team run out of revives. It’s always team wipes

[@dankerbell]

yep your life is more important than anything, even killing a champion that's about to heal, because saving your life and killing the champion will get you even more lives for when you absolutely need it but dying and potentially not killing the champion is a massive setback

[@baltazar514]

Yes commentary on your gm clears across different classes/builds. I gild conqueror every season but it'd be great to learn from you

[@BrentAltomare]

I would watch the hell out of you breaking down your team’s play in the GMs!

[@lilydusk5042]

I find the most success in a GMs (esp.) in LfG running what I have dubbed a "GM Triage" build, running either solar warlock w/ Bantle (mantle of battle harmony) or Solar Titan w/ Pheonix Cradle & HoN They're both builds built around benevolence looping to keep allies alive Also something incredibly cool about Pheonix Cradle is that you can use your super to throw healing hammers at people, turning it into an amazing super for support, Occasionally when clearing while in super I can chuck a hammer at a friendo whose nameplate just had an exclamation point appear over their head when their shield pops and not have to worry if my healing grenade is up

[@urazz7739]

I got the Grandmaster title once back in Witch Queen but haven't felt the need to get it and gild the title ever since truth be told. Especially since some GM Nightfalls are painfully frustrating to do successfully.

[@spaceraven4170]

Honestly having commentary on some of the hard gm clears would be helpful ngl, that’s most where me team and I struggle on gms is the hardest ones, would be nice to hear your strats and inner thinking behind those gms

[@sophieirisviel4100]

note about the “target small enemies first” stun the champs and just ignore them, it’s very helpful to make that unstoppable ogre stop beaming you so you can deal with the acolytes

[@GE_Doom]

In the celestial nighthawk build you have the Bolstering Detonation mod while also having a healing grenade, unless I'm missing something shouldn't this be changed?

[@jaimeesquivel1729]

That's a hell yes for Datto commentating his gm gameplay

[@eggy1505]

aaaand its ALL over my screen... Thanks Datto! 😘😘

[@epitome278]

Thank you for saying use your super! That is one of the most frustrating things about blueberry gms. People holding their super not generating orbs and making gms slog

[@rodnybalsamic]

12:19 ey man that rocket sidearm cooks lol does tons of damage and has great ammo, 1 shots gm barriers and also surprisingly 1 shots oracles, has replaced my xeno and succession for them lol

[@jehovahsfitness3151]

This video is golden even for someone who is experienced running gms. Still see a lot of people with clears that are fully content with double primary. From my experience, you will survive more if you play boots on ground or close to. Use your lift or glide for momentum to transition cover. High ground is also good but don’t underestimate the enemies pushing you and surrounding you. In psiops cosmodrome when the brig spawns, you can go up on the shack to its right, your left about 10 o clock looking at the brig from the payload. It’s decent cover, however if you stay up there, stuff will spawn and sometimes they’ll jump up from your right or from behind you. Vandals from the skiff also can and will surround you, leaving you in a crappy position for your team to res you. Being hyper aware of the angles enemies have on you is vital as well. USE YOUR EMOTES. This isn’t trials, you’ll actually go in 3rd person. If you don’t know what’s around a corner and you’re playing it safe, do a little hootenanny and 3 peek whatever’s over there. If blackout is on, you need to abuse this if you’re inexperienced.

[@Schalaster]

Another advantage of exotic primaries is that they have a higher chance to create ammo on kill. On that note, using Heavy Ammo Finder and Heavy Ammo Scout can make you the MVP. Honorable mention: Special Finisher. My basic tip for harder content: Read the modifiers. Knowing which elemental threat and what debuff modifier (e.g. Attrition, Scorched Earth, etc.) is active can influence your loadout and playstyle. Same with overcharges and surges, using a matching weapon can make the enemies feel less spongy. Since the removal of Match Game, using damage types matching the enemies' shields isn't as important anymore, but it can help. Some people even write up how many shield types and champions spawn in each GM.

[@Nathaniel2323]

datto you using hierarchy of needs made my afternoon thank you!

[@blacksmithn7562]

I started doing gm back when anti-barrier sniper first came out at the time all i did were raids but after jumping in a gm for the first time i realized how important cover positioning actually was now i have 10 gilded conquer seal its the best activity in the game more then half of the time me and my friends gets talk and take them pretty casually even the newest one this season we only failed it ones and changed some weapons around and we were able todo it under 35 minutes there a lot of fun and i recommended people to try them out also i think if youndid commentary on your gm run they would make great beginner videos content for new players that are interested in end game content.

[@Steve_evets]

im just getting back into d2, still grinding power (1750 rn) and im so confused about the current state of the game. 50% "GMNF is too hard" and 50% "the game is too easy." I was looking for some barrier champs and got my ass handed to me by one 85+ light above me (which is fine, 2d enemy scaling do be like that). The last Hard nightfall i ran was with nightfall card modifiers so i have no reference. how does this compare to eg. a prestiege Leviathan raid?

[@drewnader1726]

Definitely do the commentary for some GM runs. Really interested to know whats going through your head in certain scenarios.

[@bonebreaker9103]

Does anyone else have a bug with Hierarchy of Needs when you fire your arrow to activate the ring it doesn't do it. And you lose all 6 stacks . Anyone else?

[@darth_talon628vods4]

I'd like to see you review your own GM content if you want to, have been trying to get my fireteam into harder content and linked them the vid, hoping they'll watch it and at least try it out once. Intimidation is a huge thing for harder content, and even when players with a thousand + hours say "You'll do okay, we'll just take it slow" they crumble under the idea of doing the harder content. Thx Datto for posting this, could be really helpful😊

[@Minustheguy]

Would love to see you do commentary on your own GM clears

[@lincolnneaves182]

Commentary on your GM content would be lovely to take notes of!

[@drewnader1726]

Now that fireteam finder is a thing, i highly recommend using it for Master nightfall strikes. Very similar difficulty, but way less punishing. Really works great to get ready for GMs

[@luk4aaaa]

Hierarchy also goes insanely hard together with nightstalker on deadfall anchor with orpheus, highly recommend that build too.

[@nopejustnope3900]

"Skill issue" is the best response to some of these arguments

[@Senor_Fast]

All*

[@UMADBRO64]

Christ, you just reek of virgin.

[@insomniaddictesp]

Skill issue is a stupid response because it doesn’t tell people anything of value that they don’t already know, angers them, and then you perpetuate their propensity to blame everything but themselves for their issue.

[@macho8240]

​@@insomniaddictespGood

[@gengarclefairy3475]

@@insomniaddictespI feel that insults their intelligence more then just saying skill issue

[@Undercovertaz1]

Would love commentary on GMs Datto! Of course there's more to be learned from others mistakes than watching a perfect run but equally it would be great to watch a commentary of a clean run by your fireteam as a little 'track preview' with some advice. I want to get conqueror and I think the biggest barrier is the time it takes to brute force it and run, fail, run, fail, run your way through GMs to learn the spawns. I just don't have the time in my day between work and study.

[@FFfan100100]

Ever sense Polaris came out its been glued to my hip I do swap off it but boy has it always be a favorite and still is

[@Gravesyte]

Wait hierarchy is good this season? I don't have it's catalyst yet but I've been wondering about it's potential

[@Bopmyglizz]

I did like three grandmasters in my destiny lifetime(I don’t make the necessary light level) but I remember being so nervous to do it but it was so easy to get through if u have a good build, game sense, and a competent team

[@ShervierJ]

I was literally gonna ask for more coaching videos on your next upload lol

[@Toxxicqt]

the only legendary scouts or pulse rifles i would consider bringing into a gm are those that have perks that make you stun champions extremely fast or easily, like adaptive munitions and under-over for anti barrier. for scouts these are: doom of chelchis, randy's throwing knife, staccato or pointed inquiry (pair it with genesis for free reloads or shoot to loot, this gun is heavily underappreciated imo). for pulses: the main ones i will recommend are insidious or ogma pr6 as they both have a bit more going on than other pulse rifles with adaptive munitions or under-over (insidious has demo, dragonfly or rapid hit to pair with adaptive, while ogma features both disruption break for more kinetic damage AND turnabout for an overshield).

[@Rex200024]

Malfeasance gives me so much super energy and its even better when the champs are unstop, ive popped so many wells for my team without phoenix protocol :)

[@illegalsalad6536]

I’ve been having a lot of fun on titan with Tommy’s and loreleys. Especially with the catalyst allowing Tommy’s to scorch and combined with the fragment where you get your class ability faster when you scorch for more sunspots.

[@oxsila]

Precious scars gives you restoration on every kill AND heals your teammates...

[@dweww]

post-commentary GMs would be a great way to learn/see advice put into practice!

[@richiecapone4648]

@Datto is there a way for you to review gameplay outside of uploading to youtube and then twitter messaging or is that you only go to for now?

[@kaizen_5091]

Commentary during gameplay I find super helpful because I can see what the advice or decision is related to. Seems to stick more in the memory that way.

[@asystematec]

15:58 Yes, would love GM commentary!

[@equinox731]

Big one I see people struggle with: pay attention to enemy animations. Is that scorn stalker about to throw a grenade at you? You need to be ready to move. Is that raider's crossbow, hobgoblin's rifle or vandal's rifle glowing and about to take a shot? You need to be moving behind cover. Don't sit in a narrow choke against taken knights shooting fire. Don't get caught in the open by a collossus. Don't forget about the taken centurion spawning axion darts. Be aware of the enemies that you're facing, which are most immediately dangerous, and what they can do so that you can react accordingly.

[@Nukyyy]

Actually really like the idea of you doing the opposite of an Esoterickk run. You commenting on what u deal with first, what u know of rooms/encounters and how you approach them.

[@brandendunagan8822]

Well I was going to post that pheonix protocol is not nessasary as you see in the video at 2 minute mark you get your super back after the 50% mark extremely quickly anyways with team supers and killing, but as this is a new player guide I think its fine. Just reamember after you get used to gms to start experementing with other setups. Protocol is good but when you place a well correctly and chain supers with teamates you will likely get it back before it ends if you have enough things to kill without having to use the exotic protocol.

[@TheDanielKemper]

I have gilded Conqueror 10 times at this point, and whether I'm with clanmates or blueberries with no mics, 2 things are always key to a GM. First- Cover is your friend. Any time I go into a new encounter or section of the arena, I always take a couple moments to look and see where all the structural spots are. There are ALWAYS more places to hide or put distance between you and the ads than you think, and this way if you're low health you're not panicking to find a place to recover. Second- always play your life. Get into the mindset that if you die, nobody is coming to res you. It will do wonders for your decision making about when and how to engage, and when to break off from a fight.

[@wazzupcutty6984]

I think knowing when to move back in a situation is crucial especially when people cant sense that a group of enemies is just gonna push then back and kill them

[@slawsonize]

Absolutely would love to hear you thoughts on how you attack the GMs. Watching other creators slash their way through the GMs solo just does not help the average player understand what to prioritize or why specific area is better to set up in over another locations.

[@jwar1389]

I love how the skill of the Destiny 2 player base is so diluted at this point that Datto has to now reiterate FUNDAMENTAL SKILLS and KNOWLEDGE to players because they are whining that the hard content is hard. Guardian Ranks is a flawed system but maybe some Guardians aren't cut out to be Rank 11 lmao The information in this video is exactly what I teach to new players whenever someone I know joins the game

[@acdrew13]

Excellent intro! I would be interested in some commentary of your gameplay, maybe even some of your teammates gameplay to keep the element of you don't know every move. I think it would be great to see both successful runs and some wipes so we can see the right way and the wrong way to do things.

[@adamlandry1786]

As someone who has one consistent buddy to pair up with for three person PVE, playing Nightfalls on Hero Mode is 100% acceptable while you are learning. It gives you the awareness of the map without having to feel like you’re frantically moving between engagements. Take your time. You’ll catch more of what is around you if you’re not skating and surfing from beginning to end.

[@MrGreenMnster]

Lol the annunciation of Loreley Splendor Helm had me rolling. Like bro, I didn't know that is pronounced as Lorelei from Pokémon.

[@babateau]

Appreciate the help.

[@MuhammadAli-qk2fe]

Great advice, I hate seeing people complain about good loot being locked away behind nightfalls and GM's. Even if you are a new player and get all the light subclass aspects and fragments fully unlocked and high to 100 resistance, you can do a GM. The most important things are positioning, pacing, and perseverance. Even if you don't have many exotic weapons, a legendary with explosive payload will be just as good as you will essentially have a permanent damage boost. Good luck to everyone!

[@tannerreese6199]

To answer the question at the end, yes I would love to watch full gm runs with commentary or even just listen to your teams voice coms would be interesting to me.

[@RedDaemon69420]

Good all round advice to beginners. As a top 50 Sherpa for GMs. My advice for beginners are: 1- focus on knowledge of the GM and the game over the loot. The loot will come for free in time. Spawns, champions and mechanics, good cover positions, knowing when to be aggressive and when not to be are examples. 2- a good player beats a good build. But a good strategy beats both. 3 - see opportunities rather than problems. E.g. A big wave if ads is not a danger, its an opportunity to make orbs, get super energy, get buffs, show off a trick/build etc... Last guardian standing- opportunity to practice survival, patience, turning the tide and really testing ur knowledge. 4- practice, practice, practice. Nothing will get you better than doing more GMs.

[@JJARCHIE]

" Im not being overwhelmed by the ads , they're just potential heavy ammo drops "

[@adummy9664]

Something I would add is consider your weapon rolls under a different set of priorities, namely if a perk requires a kill activation or not, you're going to get a lot more out of a perk like Frenzy or One For All in high level content since these perks don't have a kill requirement to get rolling compared to your standard Rampage or Kill Clip which will in turn help your weapons to not feel so weak since they should have a damage buff of some kind active most of the time. Some examples of this to somewhat go against what Datto just said, one of my favorite weapons is Doom of Chelchis because it can roll with Explosive Payload + Frenzy (Or One For All if you prefer) which compensates for the usually low damage of Scouts since you're getting to double down on those neutral damage buffs. And another weapon I like is Chattering Bone, even though again it's a Pulse Rifle (Which honestly I feel like are at least decent now with the amount of buffs they got.) it can roll Kill Clip + Kinetic Tremors as well as getting an extra 10% damage boost for being Kinetic (Which matters for consideration in high level content.), Kinetic Tremors acts as a neutral damage boost which then helps lead into getting Kill Clip rolling. As a quick note this is also why I would still consider Fatebringer one of the best Handcannons in the game still because it's Kinetic, and also rolls Explosive Payload + Frenzy so you have a constant damage and reload buff active all the time without even needing a kill.

[@pyroelionai9537]

Where would we go to submit a run for review? I don't have one atm, and I don't think I'm awful, but I do feel like I die a bit more than I should. Could also just be because I'm a hunter on solar though, lol. Almost never die on void, just don't like running it as much.

[@christhiantrevisan8084]

13:51 One thing to keep in mind is: while you must focus the adds to not get overwhelmed make sure to keep champions in check(mainly overloads and unstops), keep them stunned(not kill, only stun) as long as you can to buy time for you to kill the adds, sometimes your team is to focused on adds and unstops/overloads can easily kill your entire team because you were too focused on adds and let them free for far too long

[@StonehengeRelic]

I tend to practice for GMs by running Legend/Master Nightfalls solo. A solo Master NF can feel like a full fireteam GM, and you can learn all the enemy packs and memorise sections without the interference of teammates, allowing you to take your time.

[@howbob4118]

As someone who does all the gms every season. Love this video and would recommend this to all those who want to try it :)

[@nathanbeach7940]

I’d love to see some commentary over gm gameplay, especially for hypernet current. I feel like the gms this season have some interesting stuff going on, and I’d be interested to see your thought process in higher stakes situations (where you’re making plays and not just plinking behind cover)

[@JeffKryger]

I think a commentary on your own runs would be FANTASTIC! It doesn't need to be a full play by play, but maybe an intro with what builds you and your teammates did and why, and then some highlights of the encounter. Bosses for sure, but then any other tricky areas and what your approach is. Maybe there was a situation where things got a little dicey, how'd you handle it. So not like a 30 minute video, but like 15?

[@mattinater_]

I'd be so down for you to do commentary on your own stuff, would love to see that as that tends to help the most of all

[@Redexe69]

Just a few questions. Why not run banner of war instead of drengrs lash? Champions aren’t really stunned for that long when suspended even with the correct fragments. I know you said that the builds were very basic, but it just kinda confuses me

[@VictorDeumakin]

Well said Datto, this was some solid advice and I’d also like to add that it is okay to take your time with GM’s 30 minutes to an hour is a solid run for me.

[@zeckariah9833]

Elitist Datto is back and I'm here for it.