How to Stop Peeling Paint? Fix Peeling Paint and Save Money on Replacing Doors and Trim!

[@KevinsDisobedience]

Nice job, Chris. You guys always do everything properly, but let’s be honest ain’t no painter ever waited two hours for a primer to dry. They flash off in mere minutes these days, especially in the sun. We use shellac a lot for that reason alone. But I’ve used this particular primer plenty over the years. It works fine. Two things folks should know though: it’s never going to eliminate that alligator look of old painted wood, and it will not restick loose peeling paint, which is what many people seem to think it’s designed for, and kind of how it’s advertised if we’re honest. But we all know If it’s loose it’s gotta go, so you definitely want to make sure the homeowner understands what is possible and what is not with this product.

[@dianeladico1769]

It looks great. No sense in trashing a perfectly usable door if you can make it look good, and you did. Fantastic video, exactly what I needed to see. Only one suggestion-it would have been nice to see a closeup of the areas before and after the primer to get a sense for how much it levels it out. I've used their products for years and never been disappointed.

[@bobbyfritzmusic6685]

That's what I was hoping as well.

[@Chris-717]

Hey Chris, thanks for the videos! It's nice to see someone who puts a little extra time and effort into the job, to make sure it's done right.

[@Idahopainter]

Glad to help

[@inspiringbuilds]

Zinsser peel stop is a game changer. Like you mentioned it’s extremely important to communicate to the customers to align with their expectation as this will significantly improve the before vs after but is not a brand new look that can only be achieved with replacing most of the time. Keep up the great work as the goal is for us to continue to inspire others to build something awesome! 👍🏼

[@ClanHawkins]

Another fantastic video. Thank you Chris for so many helpful real walk through videos. You’re my # trainer for all my projects. I’m a painter by profession now and your videos over the last 4 years have given me the knowledge and confidence to grow into more jobs! Love ya man!

[@birdvert]

You're amazing! So knowledgeable, personable, helpful and kind. Your videos are fantastic. I'm a new home owner on a budget and you are my go-to for all my painting projects. Thanks!

[@quintenputnam4578]

It's really nice watching a TOTAL PRO in action!!!!! Thanks buddy

[@TheIceManChuck]

I have learned sooooo much by watching your video's. My paint jobs get many comiments. Thanks for all the solid pointers. You are my favorite KZbin channel!

[@Idahopainter]

Thank you for sharing and watching 👍

[@trainliker100]

I just had to deal with my house with horribly peeling paint. First, the Wagner Painteater is one of the BEST tools I have ever purchased. It is just amazingly fast, not bothered if a nail is sticking out a little, feathers edges of paint and primer, and if you get to bare wood, doesn't hurt the wood (it doesn't sand). For doing all the fascia around the roof edges, I spent more time moving the ladder than using the Painteater because it is so fast. With a layer of peel stop primer before painting, the fascia looks near perfect. On the peel stop, I tried a couple of brands including the one shown here. But I found the Sherwin Williams PrimeRX peel bonding primer to work better. But it is quite expensive and costs more than twice as much. It is a "non-Newtonian" fluid in its behavior meaning that its viscosity does not stay the same when mechanically manipulated. This means that when you are brushing or rolling it, it temporarily gets a bit thinner. When you stop massaging it, it thickens again. For this reason, I think it fills smaller cracks and such a little better.

[@patriciaterranova1074]

I appreciate your thorough explanation about Peel Stop primer. I have a Fypon architectural molded pilaster door surround plus colonial window headers that are 25 years old and only painted once. Some paint from door surround area has peeled to the point that the orangey foam base is showing, so it definitely needs attention. I like your recommended 3 coats which may be my solution to blend areas where paint has peeled. I’m reluctant to scrape since the product is not hard like wood. I will purchase a quart and try it out, then comment here about how far a quart will cover. I love KZbin training since it’s made my efforts payoff.

[@MD-cs7jd]

Wow, this is THE tutorial I needed to ease my panic over prepping and painting some old, terribly painted, chipping but beautiful baseboards and trim. This project finally feels doable thanks to you. Thank you!

[@davidreeves310]

I just bought that scrapper off you site its the best scraper ive ever used

[@roodypazoo5216]

I’ve used their opaque peel bind twice on some 38 year old T1-11 that the sun bakes . Stuff goes on well and made the top coat of paint go on nice and smooth .

[@daviddobbs1364]

It's good stuff. It's like liquid caulk. Great binders. It will definitely resist peeling. I'm a contractor in the Dallas area and have used it for years. It holds up very well

[@Idahopainter]

Thanks for the info!

[@kevinJmadsen]

I'd like to see a few close ups of the surfaces, before and after to see how the products are working.

[@quintenhunt]

My thoughts exactly - we’re all wanting to see how the product actually performs

[@ds-wr6py]

I’ve used it a handful of times. And revisited projects a year out. Works great.

[@scfinisher1355]

"3 foot rule".....don't get closer than 3 feet. If it looks good from 3 feet away then it's good!!😂🤣 I guess as far as the camera is concerned it's the "10 foot rule"🤣

[@rubengranadino8699]

But it looks good you guys prime therrell you know you gave me like three times you primed it that's great and then caulking it sanding it first then caulking it that look really good that's good deal

[@leeknivek]

how does a peel bond primer compare to using an oil primer? i have a side of my house that was painted with latex on bare wood, of course 80% of it bubbled off and peels in big strips, and i don't want to end up with the same problem again. i know that an oil primer will soak into the wood and seal it well, how does the water based peel bond compare? what would you recommend?

[@jtr4405]

Great channel big fan. Any chance of some close up shots while your applying the primer so can see easier would be great

[@_SYDNA_]

Wow. I wish I had seen this earlier! Perfect product for puckers around siding nails among other things.

[@jaheconstructionltd8140]

Peel Stop is a great product ! I use it everywhere I can A great tip if you are masking onto caulking and your tape will not stick due to chalking . You just put a thin coat with a paintbrush.on the caulking. And it drys clear . And tap sticks great

[@paulthompson1654]

For max penetration Peel Stop can be thinned 1st coat 10% water . Finish is transparent white washed look . This was on an internal flaking wall [not as bad as exterior ]. Combined with 120 grit paper combined with 2 more [ different brand] anti mould primer then 2 x top coats , finish was very good

[@Idahopainter]

Thanks for sharing Paul

[@JoeCamel-fn7dl]

Good to know I do not need to prime with a different primer before topcoat. Thanks again

[@JamesSmith-je8sw]

Opinion on latex vs oil based primer on raw wood on exterior? Do they make this peel bond in a oil based ?

[@WhippetOut]

Recently discovered the channel. Thanks for the great tips. I could watch you all day ;)

[@dohnmoore]

Live in Utah where can I get the products

[@Thoughtfulbuildsllc]

I just used my wife’s paint eater for the first time on a neighbors old cedar post and it stripped the stain right off! Such an amazing tool!

[@parsons585]

We used tons of Zinsser alcohol based primer at Disney when I worked there! We primed drywall after removing heavy 54" vinyl to prep for the new vinyl! After sanding the drywall surface after the old vinyl pulled off some of the top layers of paper the Zinsser sealed the drywall surface really good to be able and come back with a skim coat of mud to fill in imperfections which may show through the new vinyl! Zinsser once again to prime the walls after mudding to have a good sealed surface for the new vinyl! Had to use good ventilation though in those hotels and offices where we worked as the alcohol primer was quite potent!

[@billhamilton7524]

what's this have to do with exterior peeling paint ,,,start wearing a respirator

[@furfordpainting]

I use this same method for restoring surfaces for my customers. I use alkyd primer first on any raw wood just to make sure there is no tannin bleed through the peel stop. It works great on grained siding too. Amazing product.

[@franciscovillasenor2995]

Look into duraprime by mad dog. Does exactly what peel stop does if not better and also blocks tannins and even rust.

[@jag5316]

I understand the need for professional painters to use a product like peel stop to keep projects within the customer’s budget but as a DYIer , my opinion is that if paint is peeling, the layer should removed entirely with the carbide scraper so it doesn’t become the weak link, causing additional coats put over it to peel in the near future.

[@erickanorris567]

it can still peel again even if you go to bare wood. This should last 10 years

[@jag5316]

@@erickanorris567 Peeling after 10 years is unlikely if the bare substrate is first coated with two sanded coats of an oil based primer.

[@thomasabreu90]

I keep watching you’re videos and keep buying the tools you use. Last purchase was the caulking gun and now it’s the 5-1 with that blade. 😁😁

[@Idahopainter]

Thank you for your purchase and support🤙

[@ANGIEB52]

Does triple stop prevent tannins/ bleed through from Redwood ? 🤗

[@alana-christinadittrich]

What grit of sandpaper do you recommend for sanding between coats of Zinsser Peel Stop Triple Thick Primer? Thanks!

[@owensmith1258]

Looks good man. You have been an inspiration to me ever since, I started following your channel. 👏🏽

[@ximingze2238]

Hi, can you spray with triple thick primer? If you can what kind the tip would I use?

[@glenharris2926]

Hi Chris, quick question ? you sprayed the door shut, once you open it there will be parts of the door Unsprayed, would you need to spray the door again open , Or would you brush those bits in?

[@miken8343]

He removes the weatherstripping and masks off. This creates enough of a gap and when properly masked off the sprayer will reach inside where the weatherstripping makes contact.

[@Brian_P]

Peel stop is great. I have used it on the entire exterior of my house. A bit more expensive.. but I look at it as insurance that my paint will look better for longer.

[@borgx76]

looks pretty awesome man, and have to ask you about this product.. do you recommend this primer to be used on a OSB plywood sheet? I use this material for a camping house on 2 bedrooms and need to make much better finish .. thanks and you are doing a great job

[@Idahopainter]

You could but I would prime more with a penetrating primer for that

[@Avital4414]

Superb video. Super clear, specific, helpful.

[@spencercolgan]

How do you like that ladder? I’m not crazy about it because it doesn’t give you the ability to put a tool bucket at the top; but what do you think?

[@Idahopainter]

Really like it

[@rachelself41]

Thank you for the tip on the primer.

[@russellg3775]

Fantastic job, and clear instructions, thanks a lot!

[@Idahopainter]

Glad to help

[@wtkrenn]

Chris: do you know what you budgeted for labor on the door or window trim? And what it ended up taking?

[@oregonsdank]

Before lumber cost rise I'd demo that trim and install brand new painted trim in an hour with normal exterior paint. Not sure what's cheaper.

[@hooner52]

1. Can this stuff be sprayed? Graco Magnum X5. 2. How long can bare wood be left without primer on it? I'm going to paint my house, but (new job) don't have vacation time to do it all at once. Plan on starting prep on a Monday, continuing a few hours a day after work, calling in on friday and having a 3 day weekend to get it completed. Can bare wood be left for a few days without primer on it? I plan to primer the entire house. 1958 cedar shake that's textured, so can't sand it smooth.

[@bongzonthebeat]

Ever use peel bond? Thats been my favorite

[@e.j.7420]

I like your respirator… what brand and where can I get one? 🙏🏽 thanks

[@Idahopainter]

paintlifesupply.com/products/rz-respirator?_pos=2&_psq=Rz&_ss=e&_v=1.0 🤙

[@glorygracek.1841]

I am just looking for something to use on our very old wood shed and front porch. We tried painting it about 5ish years ago and the original paints are still peeling off. That paint we don't know how old it is because we bought the 10 years ago and the paint was very old then. And our picket fence up front is looking worn. Hope this works! But man are we gonna need alot of it!

[@michaelrodgers3124]

I am currently flipping a house now, having this issue on paint peeling throughout the whole house, walls,ceilings its everywhere i bought a gallon of this that your using, do you suggest i roll the whole house in this before primer? would it be worth it to use this peel stop? thank you, love the videos!

[@cindyk4145]

How long will this make the paint job last? My last paint job lasted 8 years, will this make it last longer?

[@mamat792]

Nice! Very informative. Love how you showed the tools. I didn't catch the details about the initial sander used, instead of a scraper. Where can you find Zinsser?

[@erickanorris567]

at any hardware store

[@garygriffeth7235]

Did you tape off the soffits or pi ain't them after the siding?

[@philsketball]

Can you explain how you painted and show close up results of the door? It was closed when you sprayed it. Can you do a close up of the before and after of cripple thick?

[@Idahopainter]

I have a video on that

[@philsketball]

@@Idahopainter link?

[@fujiobass]

Thank you for the video, I love it. What caulking are you using on this ?

[@Idahopainter]

TowerTech 2

[@Fb33EYE]

Great video ! Does the Wagner Paint Eater work on removing white paint from fireplace brick ?

[@Idahopainter]

Yes it does!

[@Avital4414]

Chris: do you caulk previously-painted interior doors the same way (meaning caulk all the cracks between internal parts of the profile)?

[@Idahopainter]

Yes🤙

[@Avital4414]

@@Idahopainter thanks!!

[@darrylbrown6887]

Love Zinsser primers. Recently discovered them.

[@houseatreides4128]

I'm currently using the Peel Stop Plus product on my house exterior, I've just started and so far the primer is sticking to the galvanized drip edge really good. I'll be spot priming the rest of the house tomorrow.

[@fonzy8419]

Hell yeah baby! Nice work!

[@Sacredview]

How would this compare to Kilz3? Or even 2? Thoughts please. I'm repairing 28 year old siding and cracking & peeling paint

[@cuttnhorse2013]

I recently had cancer, and lost my right kidney. Trying to get my strength and stamina back. Have you done a how to on sanding and restaining fiberglass entry doors? Door faces the East in the morning,and it has faded and needs to be reconditioned. My back door has the same problem. Maybe the painter before never prepped or took extra care for my doors to sustain partial sun. Both doors are covered by porch roofs. Thanks for your time. I live in Oneida Tennessee.

[@jorgeromero-zw3sx]

I am a follower and I have a question about a paint problem that I have. I would like to ask for your advice on the best way to fix it. I am painting the exterior of a house with acrylic latex paint and the paint blistered. Can you please guide me on the best way to fix it?

[@Idahopainter]

Would have so see it

[@spencercolgan]

Chris. What is that belt gadget you’re using that holds the tape?

[@pouetance]

paintlifesupply.com/products/tough-gaf-tape-holder

[@Idahopainter]

ToughGaff

[@deejohnson5163]

Very nice job. Did not know about this primer.

[@gustavoaguilar9640]

What a great video Chris like always !! Forsure gunna use that product in the future for exterior!

[@marcelguarachi]

looks like you only primed the outermost section of the jamb? or maybe only where the peeling paint was?

[@cindyk4145]

I used this and its thick in the can but when i brushed it in, it looks thin..you can see the wood through it..yours looks thick on the wood???

[@Idahopainter]

It’s a primer not a paint

[@cindyk4145]

Can you put an oil based primer over this? Or just paint over it on wood? Paint had primer in it.

[@kyleclemente5939]

I just locked up an entire room yesterday with this product. I talk to zinnser or Rust-Oleum product specialists once a week. Best primers in the game!

[@rubengranadino8699]

Hi I'm a journeyman painter and I'd like to know I like I use the gripper on that stuff is it ripper from Glidden but I've used inzer products to all them I've. Used gripper.never used peel stop need to. Try. It

[@Idahopainter]

It is good stuff

[@rubengranadino8699]

@@Idahopainter probably better than gripper

[@marianmiller2802]

This was a great video. I am little afraid to use the paint eater. I don't want to get swirls in the door. I find it difficult to use a light touch.

[@topredbirdfan]

When you spray exterior doors when there closed. How do you tie in the edge of the doors in the weather stripping? If you open the door I’m sure you would see the brown paint. Thanks

[@hlindsay3120]

Have you ever use calforina paint suppose to be compare to ben moore paint

[@jgg204]

painting weathered and deteriorating wood is only temporary. you will have to come back and paint again and moisture can still get in without knowing. it's why i always suggest just replacing the jamb with azek and then you'll never have to worry about rotting ever again.

[@Idahopainter]

Thanks for sharing

[@Tinyteacher1111]

@@jgg204 What Azek? Is it a different trim? I think mine is beyond repair! My contractor painted regular bare wood door trim with Glidden prime and paint mix! Ugh!

[@jgg204]

@@Tinyteacher1111 azek is a composite trim. it never rots and last forever.

[@Tinyteacher1111]

@@jgg204 Thank you! Thats exactly what I’m looking for! I appreciate it!!!

[@Tom_ME15]

Curious if you have tried the Kilz 3 Premium primer and how does it compare to the Peel Stop? I normally use the Kilz but I might have to try the Peel Stop on my next project.

[@lexandersantana8089]

Killz 3 is a decent water based primer, but the original kills works great, the black labeled one that’s oil based. The red label is good for interior. Killz 2 & 3 are just not as good

[@richwilson7017]

I like the wet sponge idea before you finger it. Good job.

[@mysterion1313]

I applied this exact peel stop paint on top of Vulkem116 caulking now the surface is permanently sticky. It's been over a week the caulking has been dry for approximately 12 months before I painted it, any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[@TimeFlyingBy1884]

Would you recommend this Zinsser primer for fascia boards?

[@tonilynn421]

I would love to see a close up of the finished door jam.

[@honeygolightly7889]

Can you use this product over an oil based paint and under a water based latex?

[@Idahopainter]

Yes

[@derikmichael1822]

Great product. I would say peelbond is a bit better but still a good cheaper alternative. I've used both many times.

[@Ron9257]

What would you use to paint a pot metal water fountain at a church. All the paint is off, going back gloss black, but what?

[@philloyaknow]

When you open the door won’t there be a dark brown line of unpainted wood where the sprayer didn’t get behind the frame? Always wondered this... thanks

[@918scott]

I would assume that he used the door as a backdrop. Then when it dried, he removed the door, sprayed it again which gave it the second coat and filled in the lines you spoke about. Right or wrong, that's what I do. ":)~

[@philloyaknow]

@@918scott cool, I bought a Titan 440 and haven’t seen anybody doing this, was wondering about overspray going inside and the best method to do it

[@leonardmccannon3136]

Tom Kitten Yes, there would be an line of unpainted door behind the frame. We don’t know how he addressed this. If there is existing vinyl weatherstripping that is press fit into the door frame. You can just pull it out , and then tape of the sides of the frame, and door before spraying. This works fine. To be be extra sure you don’t get spray through the gap In the door door frame and into the interior of the house, you can also seal the back side of the door with tape as well. If the weather stripping is not removable then, you would have to do that part by hand. The video doesn’t address this because it’s presumably taking a short cut for this video.

[@kiwigirlNZ]

@@918scott Further up in the comments, he said he removed the weather strip.

[@clivesaunders5576]

nice job dude I like to see good work!

[@mikhaillisitsyn1247]

What do you think about Sherwin primerx peel bond.

[@neilpeach5215]

Is that stuff good for interior or only exterior use like peeling paint on a ceiling

[@kiwigirlNZ]

It's for interior, and exterior work. It works beautifully on peeling ceilings.

[@agems56]

Does that primer only come in white? I have very dark brown exterior paint!

[@swimmerstevieg]

They also have a clear color.

[@adriancastillo1143]

Is this better than sw bonding primer?

[@ricardorodriguez4353]

Can I apply solid deck stain over this? Thanks

[@Idahopainter]

Not recommended

[@elonmusk8667]

Looks way better! Great job Chris.

[@estebanvializ9985]

Outstanding work. Always inspiring excellence. Thanks for sharing.

[@mikeszep7038]

What is the orange masking tape for?

[@daniellech8778]

Hey Chris, do you think this product is the best for rough texture a 6in by 12in brick to prevent flaking paint/brick falling off? The wall is old and I think my problem is how much moisture is on the inside of the wall. Is it possible to put some on the exterior to help prevent the moisture from leaking through and stop having the brick crumbling off the side of my building. Thanks Chris and also love the new tool videos

[@lexandersantana8089]

You’ll need some block filler or elastomaric paint.

[@MrNeville78]

Can I use for bathroom doors that bubbled up do to moisture

[@Idahopainter]

Yes

[@larryaldama1673]

Thanks Chris ..🇺🇸👍

[@brandongomez1842]

Did you take off the weather stripping/qulong or you just put tape over it?

[@scfinisher1355]

Does anyone know if any supply stores in or around the Boise area carry "Norton" brand sandpaper?? Or in Idaho at all as I WILL travel some distance to get the best sandpaper & in my 15+ years experience have not found a better sandpaper than Norton. Anyone who has sanded extensively knows the value of a non clogging sandpaper & all i have been able to find in the Boise area is the 3M sandpaper (garbage sandpaper) Any info regarding what(if any) stores in the area may carry this brand of sandpaper would be greatly appreciated.

[@Adri_57]

Great video and sick sunglasses!!! Those shades remind me of “white sands” in Miami Beach!!!

[@mikeblincoe8188]

Can you spray that primer?

[@Idahopainter]

You sure can

[@918scott]

Great video on peel stop! I would really like to see them make a "Peel Stop TOPPER" The idea is that for very weathered wood like what you were dealing with, you apply your normal two coats of peel stop then apply the much thicker topper that would fill in the gaps almost like caulk. The challenge is that it might be so thick that it leaves brush lines but if you do a final sand after application it should look nice. If they don't want to make another formula, someone like you could make a liquid or powder that is added to the paint to thicken it. (like what corn starch does in gravy) Any thoughts?

[@tjscott1204]

Elastomeric patch , mix it with primer. Dap makes it

[@918scott]

@@tjscott1204 Wouldn't that be a bit thick to paint on? If you only added a little bit to the primer then would it be enough elastomeric properties to achieve the no cracking goal?

[@tjscott1204]

@@918scott I do it on checking wood facia and wood window trim. I do it thick, Two coats . Or fill with caulking first then a coat of this mixture. I think it looks good. It's not perfect but I don't try for perfection just durable and good looking

[@tjscott1204]

Yes it's durable. And two coats work really well. I have experimented with raw checked wood

[@JohnSmith-pk5xg]

I just used this peel stop on my rental property. It improved the surface of my window frame and corners of the house for painting.

[@Idahopainter]

Good to hear

[@jeffroberts5056]

Long time viewer, first time caller. You inspired me to paint the exterior of my house and I’m using many of the products and tools you use. I just painted a wall with this product and I’m wondering if I got a bad batch. It is white in color and thick, but did not roll out with heavily pigmented coverage as you show here. I used a drill and paint mixer and ran it for several minutes. The can was never opened but I did purchase it 18 months ago. Weirdest primer I’ve ever seen.

[@NHL11Rocks]

You never use this kind of primer for walls.

[@KMF3]

I have an exterior door that is in a courtyard wall. It is exposed to extreme Sun heat and occasional rain. I sanded it down to the bare wood put a primer on it and then used an exterior paint and now it is peeling and bubbling over the bottom half on both sides. I redid the door in my garage and took my time letting it dry between layers. I don't understand how this happened does anybody have any ideas? I looked it up and the most that I could find is that somehow moisture got trapped below the paint I don't know how that's possible. Oh I also used an exterior top coat. And before I started painting I wood filled any cracks and put silicone on the parameter of a missing window so that moisture would not get into the wood.

[@broncoviejo78]

Hola! 👍🏻 ? What model sander do you have and type of wheel you are using? thank you for the 101 training videos they really help. Cheers!

[@kutykutyka]

If Chris won't be able to respond, I'm quite sure he's using the wagner paint eater with the wheel that comes with the machine. I've been using one of those for a few years now on my jobs.

[@KMF3]

Is that a sander or an angle grinder