How to stucco a pizza oven

Ken Aberson demonstrates how to stucco over an igloo shape pizza oven,

[@harriscarveth]

well done. very neat. a top job !

[@frustrating123]

+Tracey Carveth Thank you Tracey. I just noticed your comment. I had an issue with my comments coming through obviously.

[@alexandrocastilya6605]

Hello and congratulations, I wanted to know what material is the white one under refrettari bricks and where to put the nails with ease thanks.

[@AndrewOvenden]

Nice job. I just completed mine and I'm wondering if I need to build a covering over my oven or will the stucco be enough to keep the moisture out? (I live in Northrup Carolina, so we have moderate amounts of rain throughout the year and occasional ice and snow in winter). Thoughts? Thanks.

[@AbersonPlastering]

Hi I'm so sorry I was unable to get back to you to answer some of your questions. I took some time off. Hope everything went well for you. I would definitely invest in a cover, which I'm sure you did. Ken

[@antoniopecora9837]

Hi Ken. I finished my pizza oven and I'm glad I listened to your advice and used Portland Cement Type S given I couldn't find the plastic cement here in Canada. Oven turned out very nice! I dp have a follow up question.... I added a clay chimney flue and rendered it with about 2 inches of Portland cement type S (chicken wire to bond it together). My dome doesn't heat up at all given the insulation I added BUT the chimney flue does heat up since I didn't add any insulation. QUESTION: If I set the mosaic tiles on the chimney flue with the Custom Building Products PremiumPlus Standard Thin-Set Mortar, is there a risk that the tiles will fall off given the high temperature? Perhaps I should use a high heat mortar mix instead?

[@Rustie_za]

yes, not immidiately (1-2 years) but post that time you will have those issues

[@GreenLadyUrbanFarm]

would this be safe to do on a cob stove?

[@morticae]

Came for the stucco advice, stayed for the cameraman farts 😂

[@AbersonPlastering]

😂

[@antoniopecora9837]

Hi Ken. I will be putting my perlite pizza dome onto the fire brick pizza base and wanted to get some expert advice… Want ratio of fire clay to sand would you recommend to mortar down the pizza oven dome to the fire clay base? 1:1 ratio? I wanted to make sure it’s secured and will not move. Thanks!!

[@AbersonPlastering]

Hi Antonia. I wish I could help you but maybe someone else here can better answer your question. If I had to guess I may go up to 3:1. You will need to run a test

[@simonegazzera1049]

Hi, how much is the thickness of the full fiber ceramic insulation? how many degrees do you measure on the external layer when the oven is hot (400-450 °C)? After one hour or two hours? Thank you

[@AbersonPlastering]

Hi I'm so sorry I did not get back to you for a replay. I took some time off. I do hope you were able to find the information you needed. I don't know the answers to your questions. I just do the stucco applications. Best wishes, Ken

[@floriandinbucatarie4022]

So there are 2 layers of the cement right ? Firts one its the scratched one ,then next day one more layer of cement but not scratched? And last one its the plaster right ? Thanks in advance sir

[@AbersonPlastering]

Correct

[@AbersonPlastering]

Probably

[@richard3332]

What kind of mixture are you adding as first and second layer? Is there a difference between them?

[@AbersonPlastering]

Richard. The first coat is a 1 part plastic cement to 3 parts sand. The second coat is 1 parts plastic cement to 4 parts sand. Or pre mixed scratch and brown material would work fine. Sold at large box stores. Wait a day or 2 before applying the second coat, Then at least 2 weeks before finish coat, to let the material bleed and cure. Waiting a month is even better to be sure it is ready to be finished.

[@richard3332]

Hi Ken, Thank you so much for the information. I'll have to find it somewhere here in the dutch stores... Have a great day! *waves from Holland*

[@floriandinbucatarie4022]

@@richard3332 hey richard i have the problem in finding those materials ,how did you sort out if you dont mind ?

[@antoniopecora9837]

@@AbersonPlastering Hi Ken. Instead of plastic cement, could I use Portland cement? Thanks!

[@AbersonPlastering]

Hi. The second coat has more sand than the first. The first coat is 1:3 and second coat is 1 cement to 4 parts sand. Remember to hydrate between coats

[@antoniopecora9837]

Hi Ken. Would a type s concrete mortar work in the event we can't find plastic cement? I understand that Type S concrete mortar already has sand mixed in. If so, I'm assuming we would just add water and that's it? Any thoughts are much appreciated!

[@AbersonPlastering]

Is this for a pizza oven? If you can’t find the plastic cement then go for it but try a sample first to make sure that it doesn’t crack too much and make sure it’s not too soft and be sure to hydrate end of the day and the beginning of the next day

[@antoniopecora9837]

@@AbersonPlastering Great. Yes... this is for a pizza oven that I'm building. I made the pizza oven dome from perlite and portland cement (5:1 ratio)... I added chicken wire for structure. The next phase is to cover it with insulation, chicken wire and then 2 coats of the Type S cement (following your video). Hopefully it works out!

[@AbersonPlastering]

@@antoniopecora9837 what city

[@antoniopecora9837]

@@AbersonPlastering Toronto

[@AbersonPlastering]

@@antoniopecora9837 oh I like Toronto. Is It the Toronto in L. A. Or in Canada?

[@cheapwhiskey30]

Can you stucco the bottom of a barrel if it is laying horizontally?

[@frustrating123]

+Patrick Elliott I can stucco anything

[@troylee3179]

Did you keep the stucco wet for a few days to cure

[@AbersonPlastering]

great question Troy, Its been awhile since we did this. If my mind serves me well we did.

[@TheTrueRae]

I want one.... "smile"

[@frustrating123]

+TheTrueRae Smile We deliver. Smiles x miles. Ken

[@TheTrueRae]

+Ken Aberson ""Grin"" from Vacaville CA to Idaho? Whew I can see the delivery charge for that LOL.... However, if I am ever near enough, expect a call! You do awesome work!

[@frustrating123]

+TheTrueRae Smile Thanks so much!. Cheers

[@floriandinbucatarie4022]

hey sir please can u tell me what material did u used ???please please

[@AbersonPlastering]

Hello Zamfir, for the base coat we used sack material from Home depot, scratch and brown coat. All you have to do is add water. For the finish coat we used Omega Products international, medium akroflex finish. It also comes in smooth and coarse material as well. Hope this helps you.

[@floriandinbucatarie4022]

@@AbersonPlastering it helps me a lot sir ,i guess doesnt get cracks ?

[@AbersonPlastering]

@@floriandinbucatarie4022 The acrylic stucco stretches and will inhibit cracks. but I have seen the acrylic crack too just not near as much as regular stucco. Good luck!

[@floriandinbucatarie4022]

@@AbersonPlastering ok sir ,thanks a lot for information,good luck

[@antoniopecora9837]

@@AbersonPlastering Hi Ken. In case I can’t find the acrylic stucco… could I use a 3rd coat of the plastic cement and sand mix? 4:1 ratio?

[@AbersonPlastering]

The white material is outsulation. it was on the fire oven when we are arrive so I am unclear exactly where the material came from

[@TreasureGeo]

ceramic fiber insulation

[@leolo2222]

Old reply, but I am building an oven now. That is a ceramic fiber insulation board.

[@AbersonPlastering]

@@leolo2222 Where were you able to find it Leo?

[@leolo2222]

@@AbersonPlastering it was part of the kit I purchased from Forno Bravo. I'm pretty sure they sell the ceramic board separately as well.

[@carlotimpano1692]

You really need to use gloves and a respirator with ceramic fibre. It is cancer causing.