How to Successfully Road Trip in an Ioniq 5, EV6 or Any EV

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0:00 Intro
1:44 What you should bring
6:25 What apps to use
13:38 Best practices
22:46 Wrap-Up

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[@keegan854]

For charging I carry the J+ Booster 2 with adapters for NEMA 5-15, 14-50, and TT-30, plus a 25' heavy-duty 5-15 extension cord and a L2 Tesla adapter. It may be overkill but it gives me peace of mind. I could even (slowly) charge someone else's stranded EV from V2L. We camped in Kentucky the night after the eclipse, and I booked us a campsite with a 50 amp RV hookup so that we could get a free overnight charge and skip the crazy lines at the DCFC stations. When I'm visiting a new town and looking for parking, I like to check PlugShare for public L2 charging spots. We have added some cool stops at restaurants, shops, and museums while getting some cheap or free charging, which really helps in those areas with less DCFC coverage. In general I plan trips with ABRP and then put just the next stop into the car's navigation system. That gives me directions and battery preconditioning if applicable. Road tripping an EV requires more planning, and may not be the fastest way from point A to B, but I'm having more fun and finding more cool stops than I ever did in my gas car!

[@arniesea]

On long road trips, I use my J+ booster to plug into state park campgrounds for 50A L2 charging while I crawl in the back with the seats down for a few hours of sleep!

[@steveurbach3093]

Heavy Duty refers to Abrasion resistant. You want Heavy GAUGE. 12 or 10 (for longer extensions) for use with a Granny cord (that will draw 1200W. That is a Toaster oven power level)

[@keegan854]

@@steveurbach3093 It's 12 AWG.

[@Justin_Maldo]

2022 EV6 Wind AWD. Here in central/north Texas I just did a 6 hour trip, 2 stops, temperatures in the 90-100F, and with onboard navigation to test battery preconditioning (if any) in the heat. I saw no battery preconditioning needed outside battery cooling to keep batter temps in prime use temps(normal use). Both stops were less than 15 minutes and arrival battery was around 30% or less since I could not make it to next fast charger and convenience. Both charges had 230 kW+ speeds within 1 minute and observed normal charging curve from there with step downs till 80%. ChargePoint/Mercedes Benz charger with no shared charger use at the same time so speeds were not impacted by this variable.

[@Molishious]

This is good to hear. I just watched a video by a Branford Hyundai employee who took a road trip in an EV 9 and it didn’t go well. It was their first long trip charging, they were coming from a different country and they had a baby with them so perhaps it wasn’t the best case scenario. I’m waiting for a 2025 Ioniq 5 but I’ll be relying on the non Tesla chargers for real fast charging like you had as I hear superchargers don’t work that well with Kia/Hyundai 800 volt architecture. So I like to see something positive, as their’s a lot of negativity out there.

[@ricardomejia4336]

18:10 what he said about meeting people is super true. A guy pulled up next to me in a lordstown endurance. super nice guy and very cool to see the endurance in person.

[@Yanquetino]

I already have… a first aid kit √ a HPWC-to-J1772 adapter √ a 12V jump starter √ always have water √ I have a UMC capable of both 120V and 240V √ I have PlugShare √ I have Electrify America app √ I have A Better Route Planner on my computer but not my phone 😒 I basically use my onboard navigation system, although I once noticed that it predicted I wouldn't have enough charge to reach my destination, but… I DID! Sometimes you just have use your calculator. I do agree that aerodynamics is more important that people think. Here in Utah the freeway speeds are… 80 mph! I simply drive at 70 or 75 mph… and prefer to take scenic backroads with even lower speeds.

[@keegan854]

The in-car software is very conservative about whether you have enough charge. I've seen it warn me about "not enough charge" when its own guessometer showed 80 miles or more in excess of the distance to the destination!

[@VerticalBlank]

I bought a small portable air compressor for my tyres (or tires if you're in the US) that runs off the 12V socket and I keep it in my frunk. It's digital and automatic, so I just set it to 38 psi and go round all the tyres and job done. No more need to trek to a garage. Edit: it can also safely inflate beach balls, air wings for kids, you name it.

[@bakinak9091]

Drove our Ioniq 5 from Alaska to Maine. 5808 miles over 116 hours. Just need time, PlugShare, and a NEMA 14-50 portable charger (used only twice).

[@spcneary]

Solid advice for someone starting out EV road tripping, especially in an ioniq 5 or 6. I have proven doing the same stretch multiple times that with how fast the ioniq can charge If i run it down to 1-5% and charge just until it tapers off under 230-240KW (usually 50-60%) I can spend less than 10 min charging. I do math and look at how far off the highway each charger is, if the next charger is busy or far off the highway I spend the extra 5-10 min going to 80% and slow down a bit. I usually do 80-85mph and try to travel at night to reduce the risk of full charging stations, AC off windows open is my preferred method. I would add that traveling at night decreases the risk of reduced charging speeds due to temp. Also carry a few microfibers and some extra water, you can fool a DCFC into giving you full charge power when the cable is hot or warm to the touch. Just wet the microfiber and wrap it around the CCS connector to reduce the temp the unit senses. I have made several 2000 plus mile trips, if you have to stop 10 plus times either way 13 10 min stops is faster than 10 20 minute stops. Just check the app prior to pulling up to make sure you know what charger you want to pull into prior to arriving at the station. Final tip, if you divide your miles you have to travel to the next charger by your expected efficiency you can determine how many kWh you need to get there. Often there is no option but to stop at the next charger along your route so overcharging is a complete waste of time.

[@kazemi88]

I’ve found traveling at night can be problematic since charging stations are sometimes at car dealerships and they lock up at night with no access

[@spcneary]

@@kazemi88 use plug share and investigate prior to stopping. ChargePoint is the worst for being locked behind a gate after 8pm, EA or EVgo is a much safer bet when traveling. Most of the dealership based chargers only offer 75-125KW anyway, way too slow for our cars if you are trying to optimize.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

I think many dealerships are not allowing the general public to use their chargers anymore. I know my local Hyundai dealer stopped several months ago.

[@kazemi88]

@@TheIoniqGuy which is weird. Bc even on my Hyundai navigation…it won’t list the Hyundai dealerships chargers. Sometimes they are free. But when they lock them up for holidays or after hours…it turns away the EV world.

[@EcoTripQC]

My road trip charging strategy for my I6 AWD: On a summer road trip, I charge to 100% at home, and then to 80% or 90% on DC fast chargers on my route depending on the distances between chargers or to destination. I then run the battery down to 20% which ends up being about 100km (73mi) to preserve reroute/alternate charging options. Having listened to the video and read your comments, I may reduce my minimum summer charge level to 10%, assuming high confidence in the charger and/or alternates in proximity. My summer range seems to run to 450Km (281 Mi) or better. Note: 1) 20-inch OEM wheels and Pirelli P ZERO™ ALL SEASON ELECT 245/40R20 tires. 2) Drive gently in ECO mode at or around our speed limits which are in the 70/80/90/100 kph range (44/50/56/63 mph). On a winter road trip (let’s assume a temperature on the order of -15C/5F), I charge to 90% of the 77.4KwH battery or 69.7 KwH every 200km (125mi). 200km of highway driving may take on the order of 44 KwH, leaving 25.7 KwH or 33% of the battery and a potential range of perhaps 117km (73mi), which is enough to be confident of reaching a decent alternate charger with some margin to keep going. It also leaves some room for heating in utility mode (20% minimum charge for utility mode activation/operation), if I am stuck somewhere. This may sound excessively conservative, but at -15C or especially even colder, I do not want to run out of options and energy consumption can be higher than 22KwH/100km (or worse than 2.84 Mi/KwH). I have not yet used battery preheating in the winter because it reduces options in case of charger failure or nonavailability. I will experiment with it as I gain confidence in the chargers on my routes. I generally have only one or two charging stops and try to line them up with places where I want to tarry as my winter charge rates are quite low. Notes: 1) Start out at 100% charge from my home charger. 2) Anticipate winter range can be a low as 320Km (200mi). 3) Winter Tires: Michelin X-Ice 245/45/R19. Rims: Fast EV05 - 19X8.5. However, more and more, I try to convenience charge, that is latch on to Level 2 chargers or low speed DC chargers that are at stores and on streets, whenever and wherever I am stopped on my road-trips, and I plan my stops accordingly. My rule is: IF stopped THEN charging. Charging at a 22KW charger is not long if you are having lunch and taking a walk anyway! And the low speed chargers are cheaper where I travel.

[@duffman9]

Doing a road trip around Ireland in my ev6. What I have is a fridge, kettle and tassimo coffee machine. Road tripped in Norway as well and took a toaster as well.

[@EcoTripQC]

I have a fridge and a mini-Nespresso machine and milk frother. Where do you put the fridge?

[@duffman9]

@@EcoTripQC left hand side of the boot plugged into the 12v

[@EcoTripQC]

@@duffman9 Ended up putting mine in the same place on the driver side of the boot of my Ioniq 6 AWD. I put the rear seat down on that side and position the fridge such that the air inlet and the exhaust that are both on the same side of the fridge are facing the opening into the passenger compartment. I use an AC to 12V DC adapter to run the fridge off of the AC plug between the seats. That way it will only run off the traction battery so I don't have to worry about draining the 12V battery. Would prefer to have my fridge on the floor in front of the rear seats but there is not enough space. Thanks for sharing your solution. Happy Travels!

[@susanclizbe6396]

Is there room to sleep in the ev6 with fridge in the back, or are you tent camping?

[@duffman9]

@@susanclizbe6396 I am tent camping but if you move the fridge to the front footwell you should be able to lie out in the back with the seats folded

[@arniesea]

Solid advice all around. i have made two round trips between the Seattle area and Boulder Colorado since purchasing our 2023 Ioniq 5 SEL. One of those trips was in January with very cold temps. With the reduced range of winter driving and the greater distances between EA fast chargers out west, I did need to charge to 90% to make it to the next stop. On both trips I had to spend the night in Rock Springs, WY at a hotel with a L2 Tesla Destination charger to Make it across Wyoming on I-80. (Thanks you Tesla Tap!) Fortuantly the EA station in Rock Springs finally came on line this spring. Out west it is common to have a truck speed limit 10MPH lower than the car speed. So it is pretty easy to just hang out with the trucks at 65 or 70 MPH if one needs to watch their range. You are right about the wind. Wyoming is notorious for high winds blowing out of the west. So there was a noticeable difference between WB head winds vs EB tail winds on efficiency. One last comment. I only use the onboard route planning for preconditioning. I program a destination 50 or so miles beyond the charger I want to use, then start the navigation after I have passed the prior charger on the route. A PIA for sure but I much prefer my Apple Car Play for navigation. Once my free EA term is up, I may switch to EVGO. I much prefer their app. My last trip to Denver I rented a Mustang Mach E and the EVGO app allowed me to scan the VIN to add the car, identify it as a rental, and automatically removed it from the app once I returned it to the rental drop off. Pretty cool! Oh! and in case your wondering, the only thing I liked better about the Mach E was the Blue Cruise lane keeping assist.

[@dianewallace6064]

The Best Practices section was very helpful.

[@JacGoudsmit]

On road trips I really wish that instead of a percentage, the dashboard showed me the actual number of kWh available in the battery. That would make it so much easier to do your own range estimations based on your own experience, instead of having to rely on the car's guess-o-meter. I work from home and usually only take short trips on city streets with lots of regen braking so I get over 3 miles per kWh. But on the freeway it drops down to much less, especially with head winds. I've learned that the best thing to do is to in my case (4WD Ioniq 5) is to choose charging stations about 160 miles apart and keep the speed low enough to keep the mileage above 2.0. I can usually keep my speed at 75 miles per hour and keep the mileage up, and 160 miles at 75mph usually ends ends up being about 2 hours, which is pretty much how long we want to spend between snack breaks / potty breaks anyway. We did have one nightmare road trip where we had a lot of head wind and rain, and the rain kept getting on the radar sensor and disabling the cruise control, and the head wind made the range go down to less than 100 miles on a charge and we ended up dropping the speed to 55mph on a 70mph freeway to drive the last 5 miles to a charging station while the battery was showing 0%. I recommend that you get very familiar with the on-board navigation system so you can get it to quickly get you to the nearest charging station.

[@johnwheat1542]

I completely agree. A display of kWh remaining is sorely needed!! I hope Corbin is including this in the ‘wish lists’ he sends Hyundai! PS: I would suggest adding this metric but also leaving the percentage display as an option. I know people who actually prefer the percentage - for whatever reason.

[@EcoTripQC]

@@johnwheat1542 I agree too! I am constantly converting the percentage to KwH in my head then dividing by efficiency in KwH/100Km.

[@ManfredvonHolstein]

Haven’t found wind or rain to affect my range in a way that I would have noticed. However, elevation differences between start and finish make a huge difference. Up and down also but not much actually if you drive efficiently.

[@johnwheat1542]

Absolutely! I have found exactly the same thing with elevation changes - and it works both ways. I once drove from Pahrump, NV to Furnace Creek in Death Valley and arrived with the same battery percentage remaining that I started with. It was a distance of about 55 miles, but it was also a drop of about 3,000 feet in elevation.

[@dipseydo]

Nice. Just bought liners for my gv60👍

[@Erigion]

1) Preconditioning doesn't do anything for a hot battery. Battery care will automatically cool the battery down. 2) Relatedly, if you're planning on cutting it really close between each DCFC stop during hot days, make sure you take into account the 2+KWh that the car will use after the charging session to cool down the battery. Yes, there's the bottom buffer to the battery but it shouldn't be something to rely on. 3) Using the AC to cool the cabin while DCFCing will cause the battery to rapidgate sooner. It can increase charging times by 5+ minutes. 4) The Windy app is a great way to check for wind direction/speed

[@dianewallace6064]

Thank you for this content. I like seeing "Past Corbin" sequences since I've only been a viewer/member since Jan2024.

[@dianewallace6064]

So true about bringing water. I always so that.

[@jahblessin3996]

Just subscribed great video. I’ve had my Ioniq 5 Sel for 2 years gonna do a Miami to Charlotte run this summer

[@JamesJDempsey]

I would recommend another item for a long roadtrip: A long extension cord, at least 12 or 10 gauge, in case you have to use that Level 1 charger somewhere. If you're at a hotel or similar, you might find that the available outlet is far enough away that you need a long extension cord to reach it.

[@EcoTripQC]

I carry this: "Clear Power 50 ft Heavy Duty Outdoor Extension Cord 12/3 SJTW with Lighted Locking Connector, Water & Weather Resistant, Flame Retardant, Blue & Red, 3 Prong Grounded Plug, CP10167". Its a bit heavy but it is definitely long! May go to 25 ft if I find that I am carrying a cable that is longer than my needs.

[@MrVeeBlog]

I got a Gooloo GP4000 boaster. It's very good.

[@aishelot]

Great video. If I may add, definitely be open to using other charging networks besides for Electrify America. When I did my road trip for the solar eclipse, the night before, there were comments saying that the one main EA charger on the route had over 5-hour wait times! Using ABRP and plugshare, I found another charging station much earlier on the route that I was able to top offa little earlier than needed to help me get past to that crazy busy one. I put in the filters to exclude EA chargers and never had to wait more than 1 minute to plug in, and used a combination of EVGO and EVConnect. Free is nice, but when so many thousands of drivers are using the free option, it can make the wait times exponentially longer. On a previous road trip from Maryland to New York, every single EA stop had 20 plus minute wait times.

[@keegan854]

There are a lot of ChargePoint DCFC units too. They're generally only 62.5 or 125 kW but they're pretty reliable and will definitely be quicker than an EA station with a long wait.

[@mjorn19]

Get ABRP, subscribe to pro, buy a OBDII bluetooth dongle. Let the app learn your car with the live data feature. When you go on a road trip you can drive with 100% confidence of your range. I wish the car itself could do this without so many steps, but this is an excellent way to road trip.

[@alexwong402012]

I am going on my first road trip in the Highlands of Scotland soon with my Ioniq 6. I have researched the EV chargers along the route and have backup options. Hopefully, everything works well.

[@duffman9]

Get a charge place scotland card

[@CraigMatsuura]

We take several road trips a year. We always take our portable charger in case during the trip, mainly for the destination to charge.

[@dianewallace6064]

I do always carry jumper cables (I know I would need a helper ICE car to use them). My late father gave them to me when I was 22 so I still have and use them 37 years later.

[@eprohoda]

The,beautiful trip~ =)

[@willie346]

Charging only to 80% is only better when you're road tripping on the coast. Charging to 100% makes much more sense when you drive through the Midwest and West. In those locations, I'm usually the only car there and charging the last 20% adds maybe 25 minutes.

[@marshallquin8611]

Thanks for all your honest info on the Ioniq family of EV's. Looking for help with my failed aircon on my 2022 Ioniq 5 Limited w/ 36K miles. It failed a few months ago but didn't recognize till last month. It took a couple weeks to get into the garage last week and they admit its not working but will need to return so they can diagnose. I called Hyundai national and have a claim #. I'm trying to push the dealer into calling a Korean tech to quickly diagnose and repair. Unfortunately the local dealerships aren't knowledgeable about servicing a heat pump aircon system. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

[@packfan909]

I’m in a hot climate, tried to route plan to a local EA when it was 103F. No preconditioning. In a ‘23 SEL. Peaked at 207kw going from 50-95% SOC.

[@kevinchan1408]

Super helpful info for a prospective Ioniq 5 owner. Do you know if the 12V battery issue has been fixed in the 2025 PE version that is currently only released in Korea?

[@rbrown6808]

The leader has spoken. 🫡

[@fynfynsidian1870]

100°F, noon, Tucson AZ, 229kwh on 2024 HI5 with battery condition set

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Did you get that speed right when you plugged in?

[@Rioichi4]

I know you touched on it a lot in this video, but an EV charge station etiquette video would be amazing

[@brittgayle467]

I was part of the eclipse traffic and exclusively used EA chargers. People insisting on charging beyond 80% were the main source of delays and one person cut everyone off. There needs to be an increased price/rate for charging beyond 80%.

[@knupification]

As far as I know, as a non-Tesla driver you can charge a maximum of 5 times a day at the Tesla Supercharger. In addition, the V3 Supercharger has a current of 625 amps, not 500. The 800-volt vehicles from Hyundai, Kia and Genesis cannot cope with this current and charge more slowly at the V3 Supercharger.

[@Snerdles]

It's difficult to guage just how much range you are going to have without testing a specific vehicle, though Hyundai does list the MPGe figures for the Ioniq 5 in combined, city and highway. Then they list the EPA range, which is based on combined driving. If you look at the MPGe figures the highway driving is roughly 15% more usage than the combined, and city is roughly 15% less. Is it pretty safe to assume that the listed 260 mile EPA range would roughly translate to 299 miles city and 226 miles highway?

[@SteveRiggins]

Darn, I have a silly app for Apple Vision Pro that puts KZbin into vintage TV sets in my living room and it cannot embed your videos :(

[@kazemi88]

Is the Tesla adapter ok to use since it’s not certified by Hyundai? Was worried it could damage some components

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Hyundai doesn't certify level 2 adapters. It's not doing anything different than plugging in a level 2 charger. Nothing to worry about.

[@lahamus]

Is there a kind of charger for our specific 12v in an EV6 that we should or shouldn’t buy? For example Can a noco boost plus be used?

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Any 12V booster pack will work. The size doesn’t really matter as you don’t need cold cranking amps like with an ICE car

[@stevebudrick9856]

I have been watching you since you started.. i am planning on leasing the 2025. Do you know when the 2025 hits the market in the US?

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Likely this fall if they’re going to be building them at the new Georgia factory that opens around then

[@davebryer6133]

I have the Better Route Planner on my phone and have not used it for a road trip. I have found when I try and plan a trip from where I live to SW MI I have to go through the Chicago area. From making this trip 100s of time in a gas car I know going through downtown Chicago is not the best way for me to go, but the Planner app keeps telling me that is how I need to go to charge the car. How do I change that? By the way, the Garmin GPS I have used for years also tells me that is the way I should go, but I ignore it, However, I can't ignore going where the charging stations are now in my Ioniq 6. Any help or another video would be great. Thanks

[@keegan854]

You can add waypoints in ABRP, either by manually inputting the address, or you can tap a charger and do "Navigate -> Add waypoint".

[@danielsombrio7935]

I have two ioniq 5 and in the last year I already had 5 slow leek punctures which required a “plug fix” - but the last time I had an actual flat tire - I didn’t want to use the repair kit and I steady I toll the car to a car shop to plug the hole - I just wanted to save the kit for situations where I had no other options - I would recommend having in your car a tire plug repair kit, it’s easy to use and can make it for a quick resolution, but never try the air compressor that comes with the car, may be you can do a video try to resolve flat tire situations

[@diydrivenGA]

Do these cars come with a jack of any sort?

[@danielsombrio7935]

@@diydrivenGA no jack, no spear tires either

[@diydrivenGA]

@@danielsombrio7935 wow

[@danielsombrio7935]

@@diydrivenGA no they don’t

[@victoriavictory6558]

So with that adapter I could charge at any Tesla charging station ? Or only at Level 2 at hotels

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Only level 2

[@stevegordon8141]

Will the Tesla charger work with my ioniq 6 as we are not on the list yet?

[@TheIoniqGuy]

What I'm referring to in this video is level 2 charging, not superchargers. No Hyundai has access to Superchargers at the moment that aren't ones with Magic Docks.

[@unclefreddy2009]

Be prepared for it to take a long time, and chargers not to work as expected including throttling, out of service, or lots of people waiting for them. EA never fails to disappoint.

[@Jaytonic3]

I didn't think that in the US, Tesla chargers would have different plugs than in the EU. Here all cars and chargers have to respect the CCS plug.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Yeah Tesla and everyone else evolved separately but automakers will begin making Teslas connector standard over the coming years

[@COSolar6419]

We could not possibly do something that sensible. At least not initially.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

😂

[@Linophryne]

has your ioniq5's battery died again since you changed it to the agm?

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Nope, working great

[@RJDH74]

I live in Europe and we might have a better charging network and better road assistance than in the US. But lots of EV drivers here also spend days for planning. If I go on a longer road trip with my eGV70 I do it like with an ICE car. I sit in the car and just drive: normal speed, a/c on. With 20% SOC I check for the next best DC charger and charge there. Done. That‘s what I call easy roadtripping with a car. I don‘t use the internal route planner. I don‘t understand all this panic and detailed planning with EV’s, range anxiety, speed limiting, wind, rain and whatsoever. Even if I have to stop by a more expensive DC charger every once in a while it‘s still cheaper than a gas-trip. Sorry, but your and many of the other videos here in Europe make it feel so complicated for an new EV driver and I can understand why ICE drivers are skeptical towards EV‘s (incl. the laugh at EV drivers driving behind trucks). But it‘s NOT COMPLICATED at all. Don‘t get me wrong. I don‘t want to offend you. I am just getting a kind of annoyed of thousands of videos talking about range and planning. And my experience is, it‘s not worth spending so much time thinking about this subject.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

I understand where you are coming from. I think it's just different experiences. You live in a corner of the world that is further ahead than the US and that is much more condensed. The US is extremely vast with many areas where EV charging isn't as widespread and/or not reliable due to a variety of factors. Here in southern New England, charging infrasturcture is pretty good but go 100 miles north into New Hampshire or Vermont, forget about it. This is stressful to people, especially people that have driven with an ICE car for 40+ years. You may not like to plan but there are many people that prefer to have a plan and I am one of those people. I will say that once you've done one or two trips, it's much less worrying. People will come to that conclusion on their own, I'm simply providing things to consider depending on your circumstances.

[@RJDH74]

@@TheIoniqGuy Thanks, I get your point.

[@StuartFriedman8888]

Indeed, watching Bjorn's 1000 km test I am always amazed at the availability of DCFC and the reliability of the stations. I travel frequently to Vermont and rely on Level 2 units for the most part.

[@Snerdles]

If I did that I'd probably end up on a 50kw charger in the middle of nowhere with zero ability to get to another charger, and if it was down I'd be stranded. I have to very strategically know where all the actual high speed chargers are and use them as I pass them even if I didn't really need it so that I don't get stuck.

[@EcoTripQC]

I too agree that your approach is perfectly valid for your situation and wish we shared the density and reliability of your charging network! I would add the dimension that in parts of North America we deal with weather that is not very forgiving of mistakes. At -25C (-13F), I do not want to get stranded (by snow/ice on the road or defunct chargers), without power to heat the cabin for a good long time. My winter charging strategy is therefore tailored to always having at least 30% charge, please see my comment above. I expect that people who live at the other end of the temperature spectrum have the same concern with respect to air conditioning. Most importantly, I respect you for having the courage to disagree and thank you for showing us what the future may look like!

[@numbr6]

Our Kia EV is great for in-town or driving day-trips. With gas prices approaching, topping $5/gal, this makes us super happy. Granted, pure EVs for long road trips may be possible, but when the #1 topic of this video is "limping to your next charging destination", that is not a fun road trip. It may be possible, but this does not sound practical. Traveling from Western Montana to Eastern Dakotas is a huge distance. We have a 2019 Ioniq Hybrid we drove from WA state to southern IL for the 2024 Eclipse, and gas stations are literally everywhere in "nowhere America" . Admittedly, we do not have an EV charging app on my phone, as we don't have a Hybrid with charging port. We saw zero charging infrastructure along the way. Apps are a must to know where to charge. That said, we are happy with our 55-65MPG on road trips, and no fear of running out of gas. Once you have a pure EV that can go 800mi/charge and can be charged in 15min, then you have something. That is at least 5 years away.

[@bubbledoubletrouble]

> Once you have a pure EV that can go 800mi/ charge That isn't 5 years away, that's 50 years away. Without some miraculous breakthrough or a chassis that is entirely made of batteries, it ain't happening.

[@amperformance7998]

With all due respect, 800mi on a charge is more range than most ICE cars. My Skoda Octavia (non-hybrid) got 50mpg in the city and would still only get 500mi from a tank. My Renault Clio RS only sees about 350mi from a tank.

[@numbr6]

@@amperformance7998 Correct: Typo. 600mi/fill. The guess-odometer says 630 after fill, but this is at 600mi range before I "tap out" and refill. Maybe I will get over 630mi, but I'm not waiting until the pump con goes red. My point is gas is still ubiquitous, charging is available, but you must have apps and plan. Gas station: Just look for Love's / Arco / Costco / Shell, etc.

[@johnwheat1542]

From my perspective, it’s all just a matter of going through the learning curve. Once you have the basic knowledge of EV charging practices and get a little experience with your own car (every EV model is a little different in range elasticity, etc), you can go anywhere. I’ve done EV road trips to some fairly remote places in the continental US, including Death Valley and Texas Big Bend country, without a problem or a moment of range anxiety. Plus, I’ve noticed that the charging infrastructure is improving fairly rapidly now. New DC fast chargers are popping up like daises on most of the routes I drive.

[@numbr6]

@@johnwheat1542 What is the maximum range of your EV? We have a Kia Niro EV, which seems to max out at around 200mi/charge (80%). Our Hyundai Ioniq 2019 Hybrid gets 600-640MI/full tank of gas. I think I'd agree with @johnwheat1542 if we got maybe 2x the rang for the pure EV, 450-500mi/charge.

[@ptech88]

Get a tsla. Its that simple.