How to Survive an Evangelist Ambush! (Todd Friel response)

Wretched TV + Radio host, Todd Friel, invites us on a live witnessing encounter that he thinks shows Christians how to handle a pesky agnostic.
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[@BluePhoenix_]

"Have you ever looked at a guy with Lust???" "I'm a lesbian" GG WP

[@hrhprophetessofdarknesssex5784]

I'm a homoromantic asexual 🙋🏼‍♀️

[@Arosukir6]

I kinda would've loved it if he then tried to say "Well then you're going against God's commandment to be fruitful and multiply." 🤣 Though knowing dudes like him he'd probably just quote something in the Bible that seems to be against homosexuality. 🙄

[@MODea-pq7ei]

That was awesome timing "I"m a lesbian". Nice comeback from her :)

[@VisiblyPinkUnicorn]

"Mission failed, we'll get them next time."

[@j.christie2594]

🤔😛😅😂🤣...

[@markunderwood8837]

How to Survive an Evangelist Ambush? Laugh, role your eyes, and walk away shaking your head!🤣Life is short, spend time with people you love and are rational.

[@rainbowkrampus]

Yep. Street preacher apologist types aren't going to be swayed by anything. At least half of them are grifters and the other half are so deep into the kool aid that all they see is grape. Maybe if they have a camera crew it might be fun to waste a bit of their time. But in general, just walk away.

[@j.christie2594]

Look semi serious, curious and Intrigued? I'm Named from bileBull, "joEL" or NoEL and GabriEL and I was AShleep, for 1.5 decade's, I kNOw. Then Break down the verse's that include "Slavery, Incest, Mass-Murder", Point out, a Huge lot of Linguistic, Phonic abnormalities that are of Huge. For witch I studied seriously, since "JoEL" is supposed "Keeper, of thy Name of Gawd". Neatto bileBull Factoid look it up "hebrew didn't have certain vowel's or Letter Jj" before 1524. German Gian G. Trissino, vatican Grammarian, sort of made it letter "jJ' formal.. Nmae of Gawd????😜🤪, 🤣😂😅 What is a "Jacob's Staff", scratching your Brain's through your Eye's!

[@hjelsethak]

You are wise beyond your ears, matt. ... Oh, what? It's 'years?' Oh my bad. Wise beyond your years, matt. .. What now? It's 'mark?' ..siiiiigh.

[@wesleyshaffer773]

Look the Evangelist in the eye and say excuse me I have to Fart "farts" there I just added more value to the world than anything coming out of your mouth.

[@wesleyshaffer773]

Seriously I agree, I have no desire to talk with people like Todd or his Mentor Ray Comfort. All they're gonna do is throw out Strawmen and non-sequiters in attempt insult you to the point you're pissed off, at which point they attempt to gaslight you. Plus they won't actually listen to anything you say.

[@grahvis]

After about 65 years as an atheist and never much of a believer before that, my reaction to being asked what my religion was would be "Religion? Do I look like an idiot?" You notice that none of these street evangelists pick on old people, could there be a reason for that I wonder.

[@grahvis]

@James Henry Smith . Yeah right, silly us, of course your delusions are all true.

[@lanerose5243]

This video came out at a great time since I officially declared myself an ex-Christian and agnostic on Sunday. Never felt better!

[@Paulogia]

Welcome, Lane!!

[@markshort9098]

Welcome to the dark side 😜

[@terryjwood]

@@markshort9098 We have cookies!

[@markshort9098]

@@terryjwood mmmmm cookies

[@douglaswise6797]

But aren't you scared of hell?

[@michaelmeszaros6982]

These people are like MMA fighters training for months and months and then, instead of fighting people in their "class" capable of kicking the crap out of them, they decide to go out and beat up 3 year old children, to keep their win rate artificially high. RockOn, Paulogia.

[@wesleyshaffer773]

No one will ever the encounters where they get owned, only the ones with people who weren't prepared for their ambush.

[@WCM1945]

The opponent took a dive

[@RadarLuv100]

Floyd Mayweather has entered the chat

[@SilverMKI]

More like someone who claims to be an MMA fighter but their whole training is watching Ninja Turtles.

[@michaelmeszaros6982]

@James Henry Smith "I don't think that word you are using MEANS what you think it means." - The Princess Bride. (What word, you may ask? In that order, ... MOST of them, actually.)

[@somersetcace1]

2:17 "They aren't subconsciously admitting that vegetables are meat." 🤣That might be my favorite analogy of all time! Well done!

[@silverwolfmonastery]

It is a perfect analogy

[@somersetcace1]

@James Henry Smith Oh? In what way?

[@somersetcace1]

@James Henry Smith No, they didn't, and they both couldn't be true anyway, because even though they both stem from Judaism, they are not the same religion. But hey if you keep repeating it over and over, maybe it'll help.

[@veganatheistandmore]

There's no such thing as an honest apologist. Good video, thank you!

[@willbyrob6582]

Actually, Michael Jones is an honest apologist.

[@thinboxdictator6720]

@@willbyrob6582 Sean McDowell seems honest to me too. I'm not following him,but when he comes to my focus,he seems actually interested in what he is talking about,not like wast majority of others.

[@thinboxdictator6720]

@@willbyrob6582 oh wait.. you mean IP ? :D heh .. no.

[@pechaa]

@@thinboxdictator6720 Sean McDowell seems friendly to me and not insulting to specific individuals, which passes a low bar among apologists. But I have also seen him argue against a stupid total straw man hypothetical atheist caricature, which I felt insulted by. And when he had a long conversation with Genetically Modified Skeptic, McDowell seemed to gloss over good points and change the subject. His approach was slippery, like all the rest.

[@angelmendez-rivera351]

@@pechaa That could be more of a situation of them talking past each other. These seem like a mistake an honest person could make under pressure. I think we need to look further before calling McDowell dishonest yet.

[@rumrunner8019]

I had a couple of these people approach me a few years ago. They asked if I wanted to be born again and I asked why and they said "so you can go to Heaven." I asked if, in the Christian religion, people see Heaven in life. They said no. I said that as a Buddhist I have touched Nirvana during meditation and that Heaven is a state of mind obtainable in this lifetime. So why should I leave a religion that shows me Heaven during my life for a religion that only promises it after I die? They said "we'll pray for you" and scurried away 🤣

[@terryjwood]

I wonder if they're praying "for you" because you shook their own faith? Perhaps they're praying to reinforce their own beliefs?

[@rumrunner8019]

@@terryjwood lol, yep

[@inyobill]

@@terryjwood "... praying to reinforce their own beliefs", yah, I've asked pointed questions regarding prayer (such as: god is all-knowing why do you need to pray for a person's recovery from illness, doesn't god already know the person is ill?), mostly they just shake their heads in disgust and walk away.

[@Vadjong]

Just start with something like:"Oh, yes, ALL gods exist. There are books about them!" Now, how can he not call that 'stupid', without digging a hole?

[@naruarthur]

i would love to pull King Arthur in those conversations, they would totally disregard the magical parts of the legend and say a guy name Arthur is just a mundane thing

[@michaelsommers2356]

He'd just say that they all exist, but they aren't gods, they're demons.

[@the_polish_prince8966]

This is the best part of being a polytheist, I get to do that without being dishonest.

[@rumrunner8019]

Joseph Campbell was once approached by a Moonie asking him if he believes in God. He replied "yes, I believe in many gods." The Moonie was surprised and said "no, I mean the God." And Campbell said "oh, you mean the one and true God of the Bible? I believe in him too" and walked away, leaving the Moonie confused

[@rumrunner8019]

@@the_polish_prince8966 I'm picturing that famous scene in Conan: The Barbarian when they talk about what gods they worship. "Ah! Crom laughs at your Jesus of Nazareth"

[@williambeckett6336]

Sure but the religious think "unfalsifiable" means it can never be proven wrong and is therefore 100% true. These types think "priceless" means the object isn't worth anything.

[@metiusabt2581]

Not long ago I had exactly this fallacy brought up against my atheistic position: "If you cannot prove that god doesn't exist, then it is true"...

[@bariumselenided5152]

Not quite that it means it’s 100% true in my experience. More that there’s never going to be any way to convince them that their god doesn’t exist. “You can’t prove me wrong, so I’m gonna believe whatever I wanna believe” sorta thing. The unfalsifiability is less a bludgeon and more a shield

[@CraftyVegan]

I’m guessing that 100% of these people will also make that dumb joke of “must be free then 😉” at the cashier when an item doesn’t scan or doesn’t have a price tag…

[@Thezuule1]

@@metiusabt2581 one could use that "logic" to assert that anything is true. Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, the Tooth Fairy..

[@michaelsommers2356]

'Priceless' means it doesn't have a price, and therefore it's free.

[@whatsupinspace854]

"What would it take to convince you that God is real?" Hmmmm.... A significant blow to the head, maybe

[@whatsupinspace854]

@James Henry Smith Evidence it, then. All I've ever heard are claims.

[@mikenash7049]

No-one has ever given me a satisfactory answer to the question, "How does proving God exists also prove that he loves me?"

[@mikenash7049]

@James Henry Smith Pardon?

[@robertunderwood1011]

That’s a much more important question and a fair one

[@mattscorscer3448]

Wretched! This guy is hilarious. I'm half convinced Todd is the world's greatest Poe. He speaks like a radio host satire, I can't take a single thing he says seriously.

[@reeceguisse17]

I call him "Discount Paul Harvey"

[@liarspeaksthetruth]

Todd Friel is the best example of faith as performance art. There's nothing real or genuine going on. The moment you become aware it's a performance, the magic is gone.

[@cliveadams7629]

@@liarspeaksthetruth The magic..?

[@Phreemunny]

He’s a real-life incarnation of Reverend Lovejoy

[@michaelsommers2356]

@@reeceguisse17 A very deep discount.

[@jerryhayes9497]

awww...the opening video seemed to cut away just before Kirk Cameron was going to get punched in the face !😂

[@moonbot7613]

Nah, Jesus came down and whooped that guy.

[@ericmishima]

Could you hear what the guys were saying ...?

[@jerryhayes9497]

@@ericmishima no

[@jonr9467]

Someone should tell him that lying is a sin

[@soliniv1411]

Not when you do it for jesus lol

[@Blahblah-il2dv]

One argument I never seen brought up about the recanting is, we have had cults in modern times like Heavens Gate. These people believed they were leaving on the mother ship, Hale-Bopp Comet, they killed themself and each other willingly. Does that mean they were more right because they where and did die for their beliefs?

[@GameLeaderR]

Learning about cults is one of the biggest reasons I doubt I could ever believe in any religion since they have very similar ideas and methods.

[@ziploc2000]

I've mentioned on a couple of videos how the 9/11 terrorists were religiously motivated, believing they'd go to heaven and have their choice of virgins to have sex with etc. Doesn't mean they were right, but they died for those beliefs.

[@inyobill]

@@GameLeaderR Yah, the line between "Cult" and "Religion" is verrrry fine, IMHO.

[@asel1124]

Exactly! I thought about Islamic terrorists that blow themselves up just as Todd was saying that about the apostles, the fact that someone is willing to die for their beliefs doesn't make them true.

[@RyuuRider]

@@inyobill I have a very close view of that line in the way a relative of mine is. Out of respect for them, I won't go into any specifics but they were raised in a cult that believed in going out to the desert and hoping their deity would "beam them up" into the afterlife. That same relative is now a diehard Evangelical Christian who believes their cult past was Satan's attempt to keep them away from the "truth of Christianity". Religions are just normalized cults with pedigree - they've got a brand name and following that's too big to ignore; they still use manipulation and threats (against current life and the afterlife) to incentivize obedience. Indeed, I would say the line between them is very thin.

[@dethspud]

Literally nobody ever claimed to have been there at the moment Jesus resurrected so "saw him rise from the dead" is problematic 😐

[@imjessietr29]

Yeah, it's amazing how many of the "eyewitnesses" witness things that they weren't there for.

[@geoffmoon2903]

Yeah, I noticed that phasing too. I noticed, too, how he kept using different parts of the narrative to bolster his assertion, when each part, read honestly, came nowhere near backing his position. But he does have a pleasant speaking voice, if only the content wasn't so noisome.

[@LM-jz9vh]

A couple of good articles. *"Majority of Scholars agree: The Gospels were not written by Eyewitnesses - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"* A good site written by an actual Biblical scholar. *"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei"* *"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history? -- by Dr Steven DiMattei"* Also: *"How Did The Gospel Writers Know? - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Yes, the Four Gospels Were Originally Anonymous: Part 1 - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Are Stories in the Bible Influenced by Popular Greco-Roman Literature? - The Doston Jones Blog"*

[@aldenwelsch6354]

Some say Cole is still trapped in conversation with Todd to this day...

[@qjsharing2408]

"God knows what's needed to convert me, don't worry!"

[@ladyfreedomrocks]

My way. "What religion are you?" My answer: "Don't got one, don't want one . Goodbye." And then I roll away. Have my pepper spray ready if they don't let me leave. I'm in a wheelchair, so you can imagine how many times I got to go through this.

[@fred_derf]

+Lady Freedom Rocks, writes _"I'm in a wheelchair, so you can imagine how many times I got to go through this."_ The favourite target of the cult members is people who are going through a difficult time in their life, they see you as prime conversion material. Congratulations on being a strong person and not what they think you are.

[@ladyfreedomrocks]

@@fred_derf Thank you.

[@paulmichael7194]

What kept me trapped for so long was my belief that the gospels were written by eye witnesses. Once you realize that the bible is not written by eye witnesses and that it is not nearly a reliable historical document, the argument changes drastically away from the claims therein and instead to: What would motivate people to invent Christianity? Not only why but how did Christianity come to be? There is much nuance to these exceedingly more interesting questions.

[@cnault3244]

And the Bible was created by a committee that chose which gospels to include and which to leave out.

[@LM-jz9vh]

Good for you. A couple of good articles here. *"Majority of Scholars agree: The Gospels were not written by Eyewitnesses - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"* A good site written by an actual Biblical scholar. *"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei"* *"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history? -- by Dr Steven DiMattei"* Also: *"How Did The Gospel Writers Know? - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Yes, the Four Gospels Were Originally Anonymous: Part 1 - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Are Stories in the Bible Influenced by Popular Greco-Roman Literature? - The Doston Jones Blog"*

[@paulmichael7194]

@@LM-jz9vh Thanks, I will look at these.

[@wordforger]

Learning about the actual age of the bible, the existence of the apocrypha, and the various councils over the centuries that curated biblical canon sort of put the lie to the idea that it's the indisputable, inerrant word of God. Heck, even today you'll see that there are some denominations that still include some books in their canon that are considered apocryphal by other denominations.

[@ivyrose779]

@@wordforger There’s been a frustrating conspiracy from some TikTok apologists and evangelicals that “The Vatican” removed the apocrypha. Fourteen books I believe. They’re trying to push the narrative that Catholics and the Pope are akin to the Illuminati and NWO, but it makes no sense since the Catholic Bible actually includes half of those “missing” books and it was Protestants who decided to remove them from the KJV and the others.

[@tedferkin]

This was a tough watch for me. To see Todd lie so much, is unbelievable.

[@margaretfrenkel408]

I also found it tough to watch. I needed to break it up with other activities. As you stated, unbelievable.

[@singfree88]

I have very close family who say the Bible is an eyewitness account as if to shame me into accepting their understanding of Scripture. It’s not an intentional lie, I don’t think. But it is very hard seeing what feels so manipulative from people who seem to view themselves as doing good.

[@RabidHobbit]

@@singfree88 I myself was an Evangelical and believed all this stuff. It is definitely believable that it's 100% honesty from his perspective. That doesn't make him right, of course. But I don't think Todd is in any way being dishonest. He just has been believing the gospel story so long that he doesn't need the same evidence for it that he does for anything else in the natural world. The truth is that religion isn't the only cause of this. We're wired as humans to continue beleiving what we already believe, and our conscious mind works very hard to rationalize it for us. It's one of the reason why videos like this will not influence very many Christians. But I still find them entertaining to watch when I think about what my life used to be like and now I'm on the other side. I have a lot of respect for how Paul handles these reviews. I feel that he gives each situation a fair commentary, and thinks through his arguments very thoroughly and presents them so clearly.

[@tedferkin]

@@RabidHobbit the thing for me is, Todd is a professional apologist, I think he even has a book or two. He should know the evidences he is using are outright lies.

[@simonodowd2119]

Justin Brierley has entered the chat.

[@uPick-iLick]

I recently bought a house, formerly owned by a sweet elderly man who was very devout. I still get religious mail almost daily. But, sweet guy from what I've heard, and he was the one who gave me my cats (I still haven't told them they're going back to their birth house) I was doing some yard work a while ago and I saw an older lady coming toward me across the lawn, so I shut off the mower, met her halfway, we exchanged formalities and were talking about how sad it was that the former owner had passed. Then she branched into "the only good thing is that he's in heaven with all his old pets" and yeah, sweet imagery, but she followed it up with "you know we can talk to animals in heaven, right?" I was still looking for words when she started into "Did you know animals can talk in heaven? They talked all the time before the fall of man! I've been listening to this Revelationist, she spends more time in heaven than she does on earth!" I knew she was talking about Kat Kerr, but I didn't want to say I knew of her, lest that spark further talks, and I ended up giving her a planter to get her gone. I dont want to be confrontational, I'm new to the area and it's full of hard-line believers. Plus I dont really like trying to talk people out of their faith, it's like kicking water uphill. I just want to enjoy my yard in peace I posted this in the AXPPFG but the timing on this video was superb

[@stevewebber707]

Animals can talk in heaven now? There don't seem to be many limits to how far wishful thinking can lead some people. I think you were wise with that lady. Once someone goes so far down the rabbit hole as to trust Kat Kerr, productive conversations can be challenging.

[@taylorlibby7642]

😂🤣"Kicking water uphill" Never heard that one before, but I'll definitely be using it! In fair exchange, my grandma used to have a saying for situations like that - "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It just frustrates you and confuses the pig."

[@pauligrossinoz]

The expression I use is: _Like kicking a dead whale along a beach._ _Like kicking water uphill_ is good too! 👍

[@jasonsabbath6996]

Is Todd ever NOT lying for Jesus? He does crap like this all the time. He states that certain things are categorically facts that aren't in evidence anywhere in his own holy book. He does it constantly. He is, in my opinion, the most dishonest apologist I have yet to see.

[@avi8r66]

It makes him the most money, so no.

[@naruarthur]

any honest religious persons just stops being religious

[@CantonWhy]

@@naruarthur any honest religious people who learn to become effective evangelizers*. Let's not lump the honest believers in with those who swindle for money. Romans 1:20 doesn't read our minds and we shouldn't assume we can read theirs.

[@naruarthur]

@@CantonWhy yeah, i didn't meant like that to os just most people just shut of their thinking to protect a belief

[@EdwardHowton]

"Is Todd ever NOT lying for Jesus?" Theistspeak is a language used by theists. It uses the exact same grammar, spelling, sentence structure, etc. as real languages do, but the meanings of words are inverted from common usage. For example: "God loves you unconditionally" translates in English as "God finds you contemptible and deserving of eternal torture unless you submit to a massive self-contradictory and impossible to follow list of conditions", the exact opposite of the words used. Todd *can't* stop lying for Jesus because to theists, lies *ARE* truth.

[@Shindai]

Whether Caesar had the wars is irrelevant, nobody's asking anyone to base their entire life on whether they believe that happened, that's a distraction at best, surely

[@taylorlibby7642]

At best.

[@BelRigh]

Todd also neglects to mention the archeological evidence.... Battlefields, mass Graves of both Romans and Gauls, Roman Gvmt writings about the supply's sent to the legions and the parade of Vercingetorix through Rome.... Commemorative etchings, Roman forts with graffiti from the soldiers, soldiers letters home during the war... Etc, etc, ad nauseam....

[@liarspeaksthetruth]

Agreed. Notwithstanding all of the Roman archaeology we have, while biblical archaeology has a lot of "Jericho is a place, ego the Bible is true."

[@Scanner9631]

@@liarspeaksthetruth "Jericho is a place, ego the Bible is true." Paris is a place so La planète des singes is true.

[@warcam2592]

that and also like other documentation of Caesar and his empires warring history that lends extra credibility to the idea of those wars, even if the text was not original

[@wolfos420]

Let this digbat try this with someone who knows a bit more than 'random guy' does and I bet we won't get that interview on his channel. I'm glad I carry a camera on me at all times. This is Todd's way of Comforting the footage. Do we get the 10 failed attempt he went for? No, ofcourse not, he isn't an honest interlocutor.

[@feedingravens]

It is always the same, these cultists prey on people that are unprepared and bombard them with questions the people never thought about. Flat earth does exactly the same. It is all debate tactics, about winning the argument, not about Truth. The strategy of what I call broadly cult is always the same: Provide one slogan ("earth is flat", "God exists", "Trump is the best", "more guns make us more safe") and declare that as irrefutable Truth, so irrefutable that you do not have to think about it, that it needs no proof. Bingo, in one moment you turned from a moron who does not know ANYthing into a genius who understands, who is RIGHT, and all these others that knew so much more are all WRONG; are deluded, indoctrinated fools. The rest is learning by heart the prefabricated slogans that are fed into you, that you have to blurt out when you hear trigger words, and a set of questions that are equally declared as unanswerable. With that your gut feeling is all you need, the gut feeling you are RIGHT no matter what, no need to know anything, to learn, to be curious, to think about WHAT you think and WHY you think it, who instilled that opinion into you.

[@wolfos420]

Evangelism is always wrong, and you're just asserting that they were right, even tho Paul expressed why and how they were wrong. Be better, I know you can.

[@feedingravens]

@James Henry Smith Tell us your best "right" of evangelis that YOU can think of. And choose one that YOU are able to argue for, not one that someone else told you is the irrefutable truth. .

[@wolfos420]

Thus is fun and all, but if you can't show what you know, you don't know that you don't know, and that's okay. But every evangelical argument stems from a holy book, being an atheist I don't care what your book says, so bring some evidence of your version of the diety or try another round of incredulous statements asseted without evidence and see how far that gets ya. Be better, I know you can.

[@feedingravens]

@James Henry Smith I love it how you immediately start dancing around with word plays when YOU are challenged to become concrete. right, correct, proof, reason - I do not care how you call it. I asked for YOUR personal best argument for religion being right/correct, your proof, your reasons. YOU pick whatever you want. But all that weird cryptic stuff you are writing demonstrates that you have nothing concrete, that you just want to hear yourself talk, that you are merely trolling. Come with something one can discuss about, and I respect you.

[@feedingravens]

Earlier in regular intervals, Jehovas witnesses came by. It was always fun talking to them, but when I became aware how insane US Bible literalism is (I am german) and learned more about how to counterargue. I think it was once mormons and once Jehovas witnesses that came to me - and never again, since years. For the Jehovas witnesses it was an older woman and a, say, late teenager (maybe mother and daughter) that tried to persuade me. But I think I was quite good at not letting them just drone on how great all is, but why I should believe all that. And then I got lucky and could ask the girl "what is the best evidence for the truth of the Bible for YOU?" - "The hundreds of fulfilled prophecies." - "Hmm, but don't you think that those who wrote the New Testament down were all good biblical scholars that KNEW all the prophecies that the messiah has to fulfill, and would tend to "tune" the story that happened decades to hundreds of years ago and thousands of kms away so that the main figure of their story they write down the first time fits all the criteria?" In my memory, the girl just looked at me with wide eyes and didn't say a word, and the other one grabbed her and made a quick retreat. I had the impression I had hit a VERY soft spot and she realized that this could get even more dangerous. Somehow sad I did meet any new more evangelizers in the last years - the toolset of Paulogia, Aron Ra, Viced Rhino, DarkMatter2525, AE etc. would make that real fun.

[@pechaa]

They can sense that you won’t be an easy mark, Ravens!

[@j.christie2594]

Had JW women come knocking, politely I started reciting List of Male dominated religious Hero's and then Asked. Which are, your favorite and Equally important, Female bible figure's. Then asked about marriage right's of the "MAN", over the property, as Defined in bilebull text's.🤔 I'm so Equal rights and Anti chauvinistic religion, I said, they ran, but one was 🤯.. Maybe, Apostate now!.

[@WCM1945]

"[T}he girl just looked at me with wide eyes and didn't say a word, and the other one grabbed her and made a quick retreat" You can bet good money that the older of the two was saying "We have encountered Satan, let's get out of here!"

[@j.christie2594]

@James Henry Smith the whole of Ten Thousand plus religion's on Earth today is "My Alien friend/gawd is Cooler, sexier and Bigger than yours. Get over, the whole "Who's Alien Visitation story" is cooler🤪🦇💩! So, your Dvisionary Bigotry Chauvinism Elitist Caste System Mental Slavery is Not Healthy honest, or the only one. Though, likely one of the more Blood Lusty, on record, as in your book of faith cover to cover, Genocide after genocide, including, INFANTICIDE! Healthy, NOT TO READ, OUT LOUD, UNLESS CONDONING VIOLENCE IN SOCIETY, AND THE ROOTS OF IT, MAJOROTY OF THE TIME.

[@Wolf-ln1ml]

Dammit, now I'm a little jealous at the opportunity... I only ever had one older JW at my door. Chatted with him a couple of times, and I guess it was useful to hone my argumentation skills a bit, but he was far too old and pretty much beyond hope anyways, so I stopped answering.

[@taylorlibby7642]

Just stand up and leave. Don't need to say anything, just go. There's nothing you need to prove and nothing to gain by participating. Prosyletizing is a fundamentally disrespectful action, no reason to sit there and put up with it for a single second.

[@TheCount991]

I’d actually love for one of these guys to ambush me. I suspect the interview would be cut short, or at least never shown. I want to see how they’d react to someone who knows the bible, knows their tricks, and has answers to their questions. I’m curious if they’d still try, or just walk away themselves

[@fred_derf]

@@TheCount991, _"or just walk away themselves"_ More likely run -- after saying that you're "attacking them" or some such nonsense.

[@fred_derf]

@James Henry Smith Is it opposite day already?

[@TheCount991]

@@fred_derf Ignore him. He just copy-paste spammed that on a ton of comments. It doesn't really deserve a response.

[@inyobill]

@@TheCount991 I love it when I get: "I've made a study of evolution." Ahem, let the wild ruckus begin!

[@jimmygravitt1048]

I wish Christians would realize that their arguments amount to "a book says that some unverifiable events that have only happened once in the entirety of the nearly 14 BILLION years of the Universe's existence, because this really old book says so."

[@robertwarner-ev7wp]

And although we don’t see talking serpents and donkeys these days, it really really happened! Oh did I tell you about the sun stopping in the sky? That happened too!

[@nicolasandre9886]

After 'surviving' a one hour conversation with a Jehovah's witness, I don't really fear evangelists, but I'll still pay attention to any advice here.

[@WCM1945]

Sip a Jack-on-the-Rocks while they are there... with the open bottle on the end table...

[@hakureikura9052]

Yea, im part asian, i kinda look like an indian/chinese, and i sport a mean goatee and scraggy sideburns, i was approached once by a slimy evangelist and tried to preach to me, i just replied aasalamalaykum, brother, allah be with you today, then hugged him... he just left me the fuck alone... i aint muslim... i aint christian... my mom's family are hardcore christians, borderline fanatic and all that... so i kinda have an idea how to deal with them... or at least how to make 'em leave me alone. Luckily for me, while mom's a chistian, she's a bit more open minded...

[@robertfreeman6082]

Great comment. It’s always something that’s bothered me that Christian evangelists and apologists always seem to want to go after the atheists / nones. I have not come across many videos yet of them trying to convert peoples of other faith. You would have thought that would have been a more target rich audience, especially for the other Abrahamic religions (as the first step of trying to convince them of a god should be easier)

[@pansepot1490]

@@robertfreeman6082 apologetics is a retention tool not a conversion tool. That’s why apologists mostly address atheists/agnostics: to show their flock that these godless people have no good argument for their position therefore to be/remain Christian is the smart thing to do.

[@Mekelaina]

@@robertfreeman6082 it's because most evangelicals from the states are from a culture of Christian supremacy and are so used to the dichotomy of Christianity/atheist or agnostic. they think they have the "truth" and thats all that religion can be. (to be fair lots of atheists harbor these sentiments as well, latent christian baggage and all of that)

[@martifingers]

Creative and effective response. Funny too!

[@TimoRutanen]

@@robertfreeman6082 I believe they might have a 'turf' understanding with the other religions, like drugdealers. You don't just up and go deal in someone else's corner. There's a sort of a mutual understanding present.

[@thedude0000]

I do not go out looking for these types, but I definitely relish the encounters when they happen. They typically have a script & talking points; so, they get thrown off when I don't let them stay on script.

[@Scanner9631]

I don't encounter them too often but the most annoying one was the guy when I told him I don't discuss religion with strangers said "I don't want to discuss religion. I want to discuss Jesus Christ and his Gospels".

[@thedude0000]

@@Scanner9631 My entire family are Southern Baptist. Every holiday I fly back home is an adventure....

[@thedude0000]

@James Henry Smith zero clue what this has to do with my comment.

[@thedude0000]

@James Henry Smith Given that you don't know a single thing about my encounters, I go back to my last comment: _zero clue what this has to do with my comment_

[@thedude0000]

@James Henry Smith my point and comment still stand.

[@rj66600]

So glad you made this video. I have been studying up for just such an encounter with a believer pushing their nonsense. This helped a lot. Great job.

[@markshort9098]

Cheout aron ra, he took on a street preacher in i think it was his last video and it shows how to handle cretards like a real pro.. it was legendary

[@rj66600]

@@markshort9098 Oh yeah. Mr Ra is quick to go beast mode.

[@Mar-dk3mp]

Why godless alone people are obsessed with God?? and talk about him more then a believer? Well for many reason.... 1) About that BS called atheism there is not much things to say, no value, no sacred things and and it leads to nothing. 2 And then because they know they are so many godless alone people that will run to kiss their ass... 3 they do that so this cult can be alive, otherwise is destined to vanish, exactly from the nothing it comes... because is nothing but a cult that has nothing to offer to us and neither to the godless alone people who belonged to 4 And finally this cult will be vanished without those videos and those godless alone people will be just alone. They even have less sacred thing their alone miserable. Life. What fools! And who said the opposite is a godless alone hypocrite. This cult called atheism is so empty... And those godless alone people really have nothing to offer to themselves. They have less sacred things then us... what an idiots they are for that too. Let's hope in a better generation because this is so lost.Can we move for the next one? Do. not write me, you disgusting godless ass kisser (you left God and your dignity for this empty cult called atheism).... Do not tell me if this is not but an empty cult.... We need a better generation, not this godless one....

[@ryanfosner3840]

Hi, Cole’s younger brother here, he is indeed still not Christian. Enjoyed the video and thanks for the tips!

[@berserkley]

has Cole seen this video?

[@juliendeclercq9273]

Generally speaking, don't let other people put stuff in your mouth (or elsewhere) that you don't want to. Consent is key.

[@Paulogia]

🤣

[@antanis]

I feel for the guy basically attacked on the street. I wish Ray tod would talk to someone who regularly considers thier epistemology and counters apologetics, but that doesn't work for his narrative so it won't happen

[@chameon378]

I believe Matt Dillahunty has a conversation with him on youtube somewhere.

[@triksterx]

Guarantee he comes across people like that occasionally. It's not on brand for him to be completely refuted, so you'll never actually see one of those people unless someone else is filming.

[@Scanner9631]

Antanis - I feel for the guy basically attacked on the street. We don't even know if this was any more than a performance between two Christians.

[@andydonnelly8677]

@@triksterx exactly what i going to say, love to get hold of his "outakes" bet some of them are gold.

[@antanis]

@@Scanner9631 I suppose that is definitely possible. No good reason to consider it either way. Whether by intentionally picking people who can't counter his nonsense, or just scripting the entire thing with another Christian, he's misrepresenting atheism, and building up a spooky strawman. I guess in this particular video, it's more of a false steel man of his own position, in that he claims to have significantly more evidence than he does.

[@christopherbohling5719]

The whole idea of "we know these stories are true because people refused to recant when threatened with death" is clearly bad reasoning anyway. By that logic, you'd have to accept the claims of Joseph Smith, David Koresh, and many many others as true.

[@dwightdhansen]

I prefer the "fuck off & leave me alone" option. No one owes a conversation to anyone else.

[@mattm8870]

Dont forget in the Pauline Creed Paul is one of the witnesses to the 'risen Jesus' and we know from Pauls own accounts that he didn't see a bodily Jesus nor did he know Jesus pre-death.

[@elpretender1357]

I think expecting the "martyrs" to get away scold free from the threat of death if they just said "okay, okay! I no longer believe in Jesus" is a very childish speculation. If I were to get rid of a religion and I already made my mind about going as far as killing people, there's no way I'd spare them just for rejecting their religion in the moment.

[@Groffili]

It's a bit more complicated than that. This explanation now is also just a simplified version. The Roman religion of the Imperial era was a state cult. There was no "seperation of state and church"... the state cult was an essential part of being a Roman citizen. The Romans were in general quite tolerant in religious matters... as long as a religion wasn't considered immoral (and often not even then, if it could be kept private), you could believe in anything you wanted. Provided you officially honored the state cult. And that's the root of the conflict between the Roman Empire and the early Christians. Early Christianity wasn't a highly regarded religion to start with. "Eastern" cults were already a bit suspect, mystery/salvation cults as well, and Christianity was a faith for the lower classes. And then the Christians, in their zealous weird monotheism, rejected the state cult. Which, as far as the authorities were concerned, threatened the well-being of the state. But the Roman approach to religion was also a rather, hm, "worldly" one. They didn't hold much on "faith", but preferred a direct, public, even "transactional" approach to their deities. You worshipped them, they supported you. You denied or insulted them, they got angry. You appeased them, and things were reconciled. So, to get back to your initial statement (sorry for lecturing): A prospective martyr didn't have to revoke his faith in Jesus at all... they would just have to participate perfunctorily in the state cult's rituals... and, yes, they would have "gotten away scold free". You could compare it with Kent Hovind and taxes. The state wouldn't have given a damn about Hovind's craziness in religious questions, if he had just followed the rules for being a secular citizen of the United States. They didn't care that he didn't pay his taxes "for religious reasons"... they just cared that he didn't pay his taxes, period. Had he done so, he could have lived happily ever after with his dinosaur park.

[@elpretender1357]

@@Groffili Thank you for the detailed explanation. I must admit my initial comment was more based in intuition than any historical context

[@coreywalker7928]

The survival guide we need. I remember the last time I was attacked. I don't remember what he said to engage but I replied, "I don't believe." and he replied, "come on." He also said he loved me. I was fortunately able to walk away that time.

[@bpdrumstudio]

Great video again Paul I always learn many things from listening to your shows thank you

[@Paulogia]

Thanks, Brant

[@ericcraig3875]

@@Paulogia have you done any videos on the evidence that NT books were written in the first or second century? I would love to see how those original books were dated when they don't exist. I would also love to watch you do a video on the earliest papyrus, claimed to be NT manuscripts and how they were dated.

[@lylez00]

The instant an eye witness dies, it ceases to be eye witness testimony and it becomes heresay.

[@jackkilman8726]

I simply refuse to engage with anyone who wants to "witness" to me. I don't owe them a second of my time or attention.

[@monsignorerasmus.6441]

My friend and i were in a coffee shop when a cute girl struck up a conversation and coaxed us into going with her to "meet her friends" so like idiots we did. No sooner did we turn a corner when a dude handed me a tract and started to preach to us. I took that tract, put it in my mouth and started chewing. the dude was _pissed_ and started saying "i need to feed my spirit with the word of the lord." but i stood there chewing until it was a mushy pulp then i spit it on his shirt. Christians have no ethics and their morals are disregarded at their convenience.

[@vwabi]

I am certain that if Cole had at any point asked "which eye witness testimonies are you talking about?" Or "I thought the gospels weren't written by eyewitnesses?", Todd would have noped right out, and would have never uploaded the conversation. It's pretty clear this line of reason only really works if your opponent is not able to contradict any of your lies.

[@darwinskeeper421]

Given the fact that the video ended before we got a final answer from Todd's target, I'm guessing it was a no sell.

[@gamozzie]

1. I have a purple blanket, so I’m halfway there… 2. Pretty much “citation needed” would stop this… But it’s good to have the background if we want to tie up their time to rescue others from such obfuscation.

[@jhill4874]

When I claimed to be an agnostic (and the military at that time refused to let me claim being an agnostic at the time) it was because I thought being an atheist was too strong a claim. I am now more educated on the subject. I can now claim to be an agnostic atheist, meaning I don't believe in any god claim, but I don't claim none exist. "I don't adhere to any religion" is a good claim.

[@wordforger]

I was an agnostic Christian for a while, since I lacked the sort of magical thinking that is required to believe in the so-called miracles other people claimed as proof for their faith. Then I slowly slid into agnostic atheism the more and more I studied the history of our world and the bible. It just seemed unlikely that there would be nearly so much evidence that refutes claims made in the bible if the bible were truly the inerrant word of God. And there was no evidence for any other gods or magic out there either.

[@jhill4874]

@James Henry Smith About what?

[@jhill4874]

@James Henry Smith And you evidence that god exists? I still haven't seen anything convincing.

[@jhill4874]

@James Henry Smith End times have been claimed for centuries. Because times are bad is not evidence for your ... beliefs.

[@ericslingerland5472]

Good advice for the random person coming up to you. If one of the big names like Ray or Todd stopped me on the street ive settled on "I am familiar with your work. I find you intentionally dishonest and have no interest in talking to you."

[@CaptFoster5]

I don't know ... hit record on your own phone and videotape them videotaping you to help expose them as the frauds they are? I mean, doing so would be quite easy to do.

[@Solmead]

Omg, at 7:19. God came down and revealed himself?? As I asked someone who posed that exact same thing to me, “so a man floated down from the sky and landed before me?” No no no, god just appeared before you. “So a man suddenly appeared in front of me? How then do I know he is god?” The question itself is so full of assumptions that the Christian never ever thought about.

[@liarspeaksthetruth]

To paraphrase, "Faith is the assumption of things hoped for. The conviction of things not real."

[@2l84me8]

If religion could stand on its own, we wouldn’t have apologist desperately tripping over themselves to prove their fairytale was true. Archeology and the scientific method would have led us to that conclusion, and yet it doesn’t.

[@LouieLouie505]

Agreed. They are so puny that weekly -- sometimes daily!-- meetings are needed to keep believing.

[@2l84me8]

@@LouieLouie505 It’s basically self brainwashing, and often times, comments are deleted, making it impossible to engage one on one. I’ve heard the accusations of trolls by these channels, but I’m seeing brand new videos uploaded with comments already disabled. These people are simply not interested in honest discourse.

[@guthrie_the_wizard]

Or even better: if an all powerful, loving, existing deity wanted a personal relationship with us all, then we wouldn’t even be wondering about questions of existence. Faith systems are the perfect structures for manipulation and abuse. No deity fitting the above characteristics would require a faith system including with limited revelations.

[@paulhammer2279]

We have aerial surveys showing the remains of the fortifications Caesar built around the Gallic town of Alesia. The remains match the description made of them in the book on the Gallic wars. This is what is called independent corroboration. And it still does not imply anything about the veracity of the rest of the text but makes the it more probable that the Gallic wars took place, especially the section on Alesia.

[@coriolisjones9156]

Question: what religion are you? Answer: what's your favourite Magic the Gathering card?

[@Faint366]

This is one of the things that makes me the most angry about Christianity. Every single apologist is so eager and willing to lie to the faces of people who they they know wouldn’t know enough to call them on their lies. I have long since stopped giving the benefit of the doubt to any Christian. You have a responsibility to fact check the claims you perpetuate so I don’t care if you sincerely believe your own lies or not. Every Christian is a liar.

[@wesleyshaffer773]

Especially the way they attempt to debunk evolution. I have yet to hear a Creationist argument that isn't full of Strawmen, mined quotations and flat out misinformatiom.

[@vassternich1]

whenever someone says they are christian, i just assume they lie

[@WCM1945]

@@vassternich1 So would many other Christians from other denominations.

[@calvinwithun6512]

@@vassternich1 whenever someone tells me they are a Christian, I don't know anything new about them other than that they have at least a passing interest and alignment with the contents of one of the many versions of the Bible. Saying you are Christian is like saying you are black. Your ancestors came from some vague area of land, and your skin has enough pigmentation to not be "white", but I don't know where your ancestors came from specifically, and I don't know how much pigmentation your skin has. It is an uninformative statement when it comes to identifying specific characteristics. It is a wide umbrella term.

[@JM-us3fr]

I would be a little more generous and say Christians are trapped in the psychological disposition of cognitive dissonance. As a result, they do these little rhetorical shortcuts, not to effectively convince you, but to prop up their crumbling theology. Some people are convinced by these half-answers, and the Christian (assisted by confirmation bias) takes this as evidence of their belief's soundness. They then teach these tricks to other Christians, thinking it is an effective means of communicating truth, but is really just an effective means of deflecting quality criticisms. Tl;dr I don't think this counts as dishonesty. It's just another unfortunate soul (for lack of a better term).

[@elainejohnson6955]

My requirement is that it show up itself and make itself known in a way that can't be explained in any other way.

[@smokert5555]

Funny thing is nowhere in the bible does it say god and Jesus are the same being. They are actually referred to as separate beings; one the father and one the son. The idea that they are different aspects of the same being came way later from the church.

[@autonomouscollective2599]

In the gospel of John, Jesus says, “I and the father are one.” Although there are multiple interpretations, most Christians take this to mean he’s saying they are the same person.

[@smokert5555]

@@autonomouscollective2599 Meaning they are of the same mind, not the same person. To illustrate this, how many times does Jesus talk to his father? How many times does he refer to god as a separate being? You don't refer to yourself as another being/your father. It's something you're told/taught without ever thinking about it. And questioning religion is frowned upon in religion. It does not specifically exist in the bible, it was something specifically agreed upon by the church many, many years later. Which is why it's agreed on by most of the faithful.

[@autonomouscollective2599]

@@smokert5555 Yes. Both you and I are in agreement. Despite many Christians saying you have to look deeply into the Bible to grasp its meaning, most of them are really pretty shallow readers.

[@smokert5555]

@@autonomouscollective2599 And then they try to tell us what it says, which is usually a wild interpretation of the passage rather than a straight up read. The writers of the bible are just not that nuanced.

[@subductionzone]

Excellent intro! Nothing is scarier than an unleased Ray Comfort.

[@hakureikura9052]

Unleased? Ray comfort is for rent?

[@derreckwalls7508]

@@hakureikura9052 It works, but like contract work he goes to the lowest bidder.

[@subductionzone]

@@hakureikura9052 LOL! Yes! The typo stays in.

[@dethspud]

Hinterland Who's Who? **nostalgia wave**

[@Paulogia]

someone got it! :)

[@Huntingslife1]

New channel, new partner, new content Paul I love what you’re doing here can’t get enough keep up the good work sir. And oh by the way almost at 100k!!!!!

[@Huntingslife1]

@James Henry Smith Profound!

[@discfunctional1]

Enjoyed this breakdown. Hope to see more

[@infinitecurlie]

Gosh, I was at the amusement park with my husband and friends and someone started preaching to us about how Jesus loves us while we were waiting in line for a ride and I just rolled my eyes, pretty sure I saw my brain because I rolled them so hard and just walked as far ahead as I could lmao. Recently I joined The Satanic Temple, so now I'm ready to say I'm a Satanist and see where that goes. 😂😂😂 (Ok I'm ever so slightly sad that this dude's preachy video has the comments turned off. That would have been a fun time there. 😂)

[@boomanchu2]

Tod is a notorious gutless punk. It's not surprising that he has the comments turned off.

[@fred_derf]

Of course he has comments turned off, he knows he's lying but he doesn't want his followers be find out.

[@markborder906]

Comments turned off? How surprising, I am shocked to my core that such a thing could happen. /s

[@Mar-dk3mp]

Why godless alone people are obsessed with God?? and talk about him more then a believer? Well for many reason.... 1) About that BS called atheism there is not much things to say, no value, no sacred things and and it leads to nothing. 2 And then because they know they are so many godless alone people that will run to kiss their ass... 3 they do that so this cult can be alive, otherwise is destined to vanish, exactly from the nothing it comes... because is nothing but a cult that has nothing to offer to us and neither to the godless alone people who belonged to 4 And finally this cult will be vanished without those videos and those godless alone people will be just alone. They even have less sacred thing their alone miserable. Life. What fools! And who said the opposite is a godless alone hypocrite. This cult called atheism is so empty... And those godless alone people really have nothing to offer to themselves. They have less sacred things then us... what an idiots they are for that too. Let's hope in a better generation because this is so lost.Can we move for the next one? Do. not write me, you disgusting godless ass kisser (you left God and your dignity for this empty cult called atheism).... Do not tell me if this is not but an empty cult.... We need a better generation, not this godless one.....

[@Mar-dk3mp]

@@fred_derf Why godless alone people are obsessed with God?? and talk about him more then a believer? Well for many reason.... 1) About that BS called atheism there is not much things to say, no value, no sacred things and and it leads to nothing. 2 And then because they know they are so many godless alone people that will run to kiss their ass... 3 they do that so this cult can be alive, otherwise is destined to vanish, exactly from the nothing it comes... because is nothing but a cult that has nothing to offer to us and neither to the godless alone people who belonged to 4 And finally this cult will be vanished without those videos and those godless alone people will be just alone. They even have less sacred thing their alone miserable. Life. What fools! And who said the opposite is a godless alone hypocrite. This cult called atheism is so empty... And those godless alone people really have nothing to offer to themselves. They have less sacred things then us... what an idiots they are for that too. Let's hope in a better generation because this is so lost.Can we move for the next one? Do. not write me, you disgusting godless ass kisser (you left God and your dignity for this empty cult called atheism).... Do not tell me if this is not but an empty cult.... We need a better generation, not this godless one....

[@nagranoth_]

This is not complicated, you call them out on their lie. "But you called it a religion" No, I just told you I don't have one and why. Goodbye.

[@rainbowkrampus]

"No, I just used informal language that anyone with a 5th grade reading level should be able to understand."

[@larryscarr3897]

Hahaha.. So close Paul!!! It was a baby turkey on my lap!!! Really just hatched.. The little guys need to learn how to eat. 😂😂 What are the odds?😉

[@Dragoon803]

Bro that clip of Family Guy got me. "People can fact check this easily." "Yeah, who has the time keep reading."

[@raymondsanders3584]

He’s nothing but a grifter. He finds some person who is halfway intelligent but just like the snake in the garden of Eden he is rewarding things to catch this gentleman and make him rethink his position. I’m glad that you’re reviewing this and showing the skepticism around the process. Sadly the only people that are going to watch your videos are those who already agree with your position.

[@KaiHenningsen]

Nah. The snake was honest.

[@KaiHenningsen]

@James Henry Smith It seems you walked through Alice's mirror.

[@stinkyferret1282]

This will be very helpful for whenever I let my family know I’m an atheist (whether it’s intentional or not)

[@ecpracticesquad4674]

I’ve always wanted to have one of these “ambushes”. I only ever got the unfortunate “pleasure” of experiencing the WBC.

[@richardscottmills]

On today's episode of Lying and Misrepresenting for Jesus... the fact that you know Todd knows just makes him so, so slimy. During these ambushes people should really say, "hold on, let me Google that for the scholarly consensus". The folks who love this ambush format would run for the hills.

[@EnglishMike]

As always with these clips -- this is the best Friel has of who knows how many interviews he did that didn't go as well for him. Something tells me we'll never get to see all the footage from these outings of his.

[@ryankingston748]

Friel is like the Jerry Springer of evangelical Christianity . He pretty much runs a tabloid gossip show .

[@xwing2417]

This man's voice dominates the conversation, and I feel dirty. Like I'm fighting off an attack.

[@FreeShrugs319]

It’s amazing that billions of people believe in Jesus as savior with zero evidence. Imagine if there was a few pieces of evidence. Maybe the whole world would be Christians.

[@stevewebber707]

I think Todd tries to bypass the telephone game by claiming the gospels are literally eyewitness accounts. That's one of many reasons I would be very cautious in accepting any of his claims. And I would certainly not accept him as a trustworthy authority on the bible. I'm pretty unlikely to be very convinced by any street pastor, but if I was, I hope that pastor would have a better grasp of theology and history than Todd does.

[@rogerroger5649]

A great video. I could see a series of these that shows the different tactics apologist and others use to try and confuse and redirect non-believers in casual conversation that stump or confuse many of us. Maybe the "Non-believers Handbook Series" or "Evangelical Ambush Field Guide"...lol..

[@eldritch_moth3191]

I second this

[@gowdsake7103]

Best start is to get them to prove Jesus said anything

[@timchambers170]

Isn't that interesting how Ray is embellishing on what even the Bible strictly says...(Ex: that executed followers refused to recant) Ray's own embellishing behavior illustrates the unreliability of oral testimony... which is, of course, the source of the Gospels...

[@liarspeaksthetruth]

oddly enoug, Ray's and Todd's approach has the quirky side effect of advancing the development of biblical legend.

[@CreakyBlinder]

Oh please no, not Todd Friel 😭

[@Paulogia]

Sadly, yes.

[@judygreenwood4696]

I was moving into a new apartment that was a dirty mess one day, And on the next day I got a couple of people "Spreading the Gospel". Bad timing on their part. I cleared off a bench, invited them to sit and then offered them a drink. They declined and said that they would return. They never did. In San francisco, I use to have a stack of whatever pamphlets folks were handing out. I would ask the person ringing my doorbell, which religion that they represented, So, I would find the most opposite pamphlet, for example: Hare Krishna: Have you hear about Buddha? and so on. They stopped coming except for the 7 Day Adventists who had a meeting down the street on Friday.

[@whysoserious8666]

A good Canadian apologizes if there is a possibility he might bump into you. Unless it’s a hockey game.

[@warren52nz]

What I find hilarious is when Theists try to discredit Atheism by calling it a *_"Religion."_* Uh, buddy... what YOU believe definitely IS a religion (while Atheism definitely isn't) so you're discrediting yourself! You wouldn't find a scientist calling religion a science to try to discredit it. Duhhh...

[@guthrie_the_wizard]

If an all powerful, loving, existing deity wanted a personal relationship with us all, then we wouldn’t even be wondering about questions of existence. Faith systems are the perfect structures for manipulation and abuse. No deity fitting the above characteristics would require a faith system including with limited revelations.

[@man-yp1gb]

I get a "god bless you" at a store counter by a cashier and I decided to say back have a mythical illusion filled day!

[@MrOsmodeus]

i used to to counter argue these types when they came to my door. it was a waste of everyone's time. now i just tell them "i'm not your target audience" they just leave.

[@Florkl]

I mean, the Homeric Epics speak of thousands of witnesses to many of the deeds written about. Should we take them at face value?

[@CantonWhy]

My most guilty pleasure of a dream is to be evangelised to by a Todd Friel or a Ray Comfort. But I know that'd just not end up on the footage they keep, because they go out and talk to 20-odd people to get someone credulous they can bamboozle. And sometimes it isn't even about being credulous, it's about that person assuming Todd isn't lying or distorting the truth directly to their faces, so they don't want to be more confrontational.

[@ps.2]

"Oh do you mind if I get a video of this as well?" And always travel with a mini tripod for your phone. I wonder how they respond in that case. I mean obviously they know how dishonest editing works, so they probably wouldn't want to consent, but they can hardly just come right out and say that. What would be the pretext for saying that no, they'd rather only their cameraman record it?

[@billmorash3322]

Okay, so I literally just got a warm fuzzy feeling and involuntarily started smiling when I heard the Hinterland's Who's Who music. It's been decades since I've heard it.

[@Lance_Thorpe_Esq.]

It's so frustrating that people feel the need, unconsciously and also innately to answer questions they've probably never researched or care about. Just say I don't know... People need to think better but also be less insecure or self-conscious.

[@Hailfire08]

Ayy, new video from Paulogia! A great day.

[@AlexOvTheAbyss]

I was out at our local Nature Center one day walking on the trails. I walked passed two people sitting there reading bibles and made the mistake of making eye contact. They started following me, cutting through the trees to catch up with me closer, and eventually jumped a fence to get ahead of me to ambush me before I could get to the parking lot. I had a knife on me and was about to pull it on them when they asked me if I "knew jesus".

[@derreckwalls7508]

I would have kept the knife out _especially_ after they asked me if I knew Jesus. Then I would have told them to back off because I'm still in psychotherapy for the childhood religious abuse I suffered at the hands of Christian evangelicals!

[@nuclearpancake3683]

“would you like to know our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?”

[@thedarkdragon89]

That's straight up maniac behavior. They jumped a fucking fence to stop you because you made momentary eye contact, that's insane. I would have pulled the knife.

[@derreckwalls7508]

@@nuclearpancake3683 "Would you like to hear about the One True God Ahura Mazda where the ideas of monotheism and hell first came from over a millennium before your Christ?" At least a dozen Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons have stood at my door like deer in the headlights after being asked that question.

[@markborder906]

If asked if I knew Jesus, my answer would have been “yes, he currently plays for Manchester City but looks like he could be changing clubs this window”, much easier having a conversation about football.

[@jason00121]

I tell them loudly "I am a fucking heathen!" it tends to shut things done quickly

[@jimmygravitt1048]

LMAO. You chose the Minnesota state bird as the "hinterland" clip.

[@Vishanti]

Ray seems to be messing with people in the L.A. area. Good luck to him if he ever tries his script on me 🙂

[@rembrandt972ify]

Please don't hurt him too bad. He has a wife. And children. And a whole call center full of employees.

[@erimgard3128]

@@rembrandt972ify Think of all the bananas

[@noonespecial1178]

@@rembrandt972ify lol

[@Vishanti]

@@rembrandt972ify if he wants to start using his "gotcha" questions, I will literally start using Hebrew. When he gets confused, I'm going to ask him how he has spent so long being this excited about 9/10 commandments yet refuses to learn the original language. (For reference: he's a Christian so he ignores #4)

[@timchambers170]

Ray would run away from Vishanti. Ray's only interested in targeting historically ignorant "marks." He knows he'd be stomped by someone acquainted with scholarly history and historiography... :)

[@kendrabueckert1750]

The first time I ever saw Todd friel I honestly thought he was satirical and making fun of Christianity. It was very mind blowing to realize, wait, is he for real??

[@kennethleeds8503]

Paul, I successfully believe that there is a purple chicken on my lap. Now what?

[@brokenrecord3095]

"it's one thing for people to say 'i believe because what I've heard' it's another thing to say 'I believe because what I seen'" says Todd Friel, who bases his belief on supposedly eyewitness testimony. In other word what he's heard.

[@DeconvertedMan]

God is so weak that it needs humans to spread its message.

[@dustinellerbe4125]

Loved it. I dont see how apologists look right past these many objections to their beliefs. They fail to read the stories in full context as well. The gist of the story is that Jesus was the 1st to be raised and would return soon(within a lifetime) to bring about an Israelite Theocracy. Those who believed(trusted) Jesus would return and bring about the resurrection of the dead, and those alive and were part of Israel, would be saved. The whole goal of salvation is to be saved from the greedy Elites in Israel(Judean rulers and Roman occupancy). Bringing in the Dispersed Israelites who were assimilated into the Nations was what would bring about the resurrection, and then, ALL ISRAEL WOULD BE SAVED.

[@martifingers]

Very good point. The way apologists tend to downplay the Jewish origins of Christianity is very telling, I think. For all the gory details see any of RabbI Tovia Singer videos. I pity any apologist who picks on him.

[@dustinellerbe4125]

@@martifingers thanks for taking the time to read my post 👍

[@command.cyborg]

Oh no! It's that Wretched Guy! Run away!!

[@citizenVader]

No amount of pointing fingers and lies are going to make me believe any fairytale