HOW-TO Swap Treble Hooks to Siwash/Single Hook on Spinners/Blue Fox

[@wildwoodsworkshop7602]

This is what i need in my life. Sick of losing spinners to sunken trees in the lake. I'll be in there with a metal detector late summer when the water gets low, claim some money back! But this is what is needed for now

[@virgilbohall6665]

This is how I switch out. I was raised on vibrax fishing in the Rocky Mounts. This dose work, I do it now to swap out old rusty hooks.

[@fnkdtnk]

Thanks for this! I mostly like to catch and release. Rooster tails seem to always be the hot lure, but I have killed more fish trying to get a swallowed rooster tail out than I can count. I never have that problem with single hook lures, and plan to start swapping them out asap!

[@kylepaup]

Thanks for this! I'm going to fish a new river this weekend, and it's single hook only, so I needed to convert some of my spinners. This is exactly what I needed! (Also love the Polyphia in the intro)

[@joseph1505]

With a single hook you can thread a night crawler on the hook. Killer for walleye!

[@josephnywayfarer1345]

You learn something new every day. I thought that was a trailer hook in the Blue Fox Vibrax 1/4 oz package.

[@JoelFishes]

I had no idea what it was either until I started getting into steelhead fishing. it basically is the exact hook you'd use on a bass spinnerbait for a trailer hook also.

[@simonbleach-wood9235]

Great idea with the rag.

[@mithias1]

Crazy that this has 70K views and you have under 1000 subs. You earned a sub from me, new lake near me is single hook barbless only and you just saved my day! Thanks!

[@JoelFishes]

Appreciate it! If I hadn't quit making videos just before Covid, I prob would be well past that, but I did and that's the price I paid :)

[@bubbaleon]

I would be nice if they used a split ring to begin so you don’t waste a perfectly good hook.

[@thorazine0076]

new to fishing and looking at the humane way to fish, thank you!

[@bullyakker]

That would be tofu... Kidding.. Single hook, squishing the barb down is simple and easy and still catches fish. Trebles? I can't recall how many fish I massacred and had to dispatch and keep as a kid. I felt bad

[@SometimesTurtle]

@@bullyakker 1000%, used a single hook, hurt a fish, squished the barb down, caught like 10 fish no issues, all on the mouth and easy releases, they all were healthy and back to living their best life. Ended the day wanting to use a bigger lure for bigger fish and only had a treble hook blue fox, caught a massive fish, he broke off and I know for a fact he was massacred...felt horrible, stopped fishing lol. I need to swap out for single sidewashes and will be happy to catch some big boys!

[@bullyakker]

@@SometimesTurtle Wide eyed siwashes are the way to go for me! I can cut off the old hook and crimp a siwash right on. I used to use split rings but I find less hardware= less tangles and I have yet to lose a large trout though I do make sure the ring is still tight after any decent hook up. Cheers!

[@BassinBarbless]

I’ll bookmark this just in case I ever decide to visit the PNW between November and May

[@reiddorian6500]

pro tip : you can watch movies at KaldroStream. Been using them for watching a lot of movies recently.

[@jaykhari2092]

@Reid Dorian definitely, I've been using Kaldrostream for since december myself :D

[@FishnMusic]

Great video, very well done. Exactly what I was looking for to the T. Thank you

[@web3risk]

Thanks, exactly what I was looking for.

[@petemoore8923]

Nice video. I’m gonna try this. It’s a trainwreck when I catch rainbows on treble. I feel like I’m destroying their mouths. It’s also a HUGE pain to crimp down three points in barbless areas.

[@JoelFishes]

All the reasons I avoid the trebles...that and the snags

[@dannyboy163]

Literally the video/tutorial I needed. THANK YOU

[@fishinnshootin689]

Thank you, recently went to fly fishing on my spinning rods only because of those damn trebbles beating up the local browns. Havent caught anything over 17" since. Going back to spinners but putting on a barbless single hook now 😁

[@rippatrick1]

Nice simple but instructive video - thanks for the lesson!

[@johnnydartersaresuperiorbeings]

Thank you found my rooster tail and remembered the treble fell off a while ago and I only had singles so I had to put one on lol

[@_JimS]

In NC we have a "Delayed Harvest" season for trout which means single hook only from October to June. When June hits I go smallmouth fishing so I don't cut my treble hooks so I can re-install them come smallmouth season.

[@DAS-Videos]

Maybe bend the single hook just a little bit at the curve so the hook tip isn't exactly inline with the shank. It might increase the number of solid hookups.

[@FishingTheOdds]

congrats on 100 bru!

[@rickypicozzi9953]

You got my sub with the polyphia intro tune!

[@i.o.3563]

That's a good idea to use singles, but I really would suggest another hook choice. First, the shape. Why not use specially designed for spinners and spoons, like Owner S-31 or S-61? They have a big eye it which split ring goes much better than this, and are curved in a different way themselves. To keep things less bulky, personally, I use split rings #1 of #2 on bigger Foxes.

[@leomdk939]

Very helpful, thank you ... i'm planning to try this so I can put a small gulp minnow (scented plastic) on the single point hook behind the blue fox spinner. I've caught trout & salmon with spinners and with gulp minnows individually ... wondering how the two combined will fare with flash/sound/vibration/scent/soft body all combined in one sexy trout-catching package. Too much at once? Maybe. We'll see!

[@andylee4764]

Dude, thank you! Awesome video

[@geraldinescheller1090]

Good presentation. Thanks!

[@colbra3]

I will subscribe because you have Polyphia as an intro band alone. Cheers

[@ioannismichailidis1859]

Cheers Joel, amazing vid your technique works the best even for Pike fishing with blue fox!!! If I want to replace my number 5 blue fox what size hook and split ring I must use??

[@crashbeats488]

Great vid thanks a bunch!

[@cjcanino1966]

What size hook for a # 2 blue fox sir ??

[@sleepingglass]

juicy little soundtrack.. you like polyphia? thanks from skagit

[@far77fae]

thanks didn't understand why they had an extra hook in the package.

[@diminpalkatoyj4254]

Does jig head+jig work too?

[@apollonorm]

I know where I fish, the regulations require a barbless single hook that has a max gap of 5/8 for steelhead.

[@Machster10]

5/8" ? Mind if I ask where this is? Its a good idea.

[@apollonorm]

@@Machster10 yeah 5/8” , I fish the Salmon River in Idaho; I think its to limit snagging and foul hooking fish. On the Gamagatsu octopus hooks I use for my egg loop rigs it limits me to a 1/0 hook, I think I can go a little bigger with their big river hook. I usually use size 1 and 2 on steelhead and 0 and 1/0 on salmon when we get a season up here.

[@bullyakker]

@@apollonorm Idaho has some interesting fishing regulations but prevents those who use a 5/0 weighted treble on the Snake "to catch trout" when we all know they were trying to snag a 6+' sturgeon... ;)

[@mattb4699]

Nice video

[@ReddGth]

THANK YOU GOOD VIDEO

[@AllenOutdoors868]

Great info I appreciate it!!

[@robertcornelius3514]

Forest Gump says just cut the two other two pointy tips off, then you'll end up with just one pointy tip.

[@bullyakker]

It works in a pinch but the hook up ratio is terrible.

[@Rt2comments]

That’s a tiny hook

[@SometimesTurtle]

How did you find "cutters" that don't just end up with holes and not doing anything? lol edit* I even tried 6 inch diagonal ones from harbor freight (the guy let me test out cutting the hook in the store lol), ended up getting $8 bolt cutters, did wonders.

[@JoelFishes]

These were honestly just regular side cutters from Harbor Freight or whatever lol

[@joshrainey915]

Question. Most Rooster Tail hooks are bronze but you replace with a nickel hook. Do you feel that doesn’t decrease bites? I’ve read nickel might be too flashy in really clear water.

[@bullyakker]

I've never has any difference in hook color though if I were using a dark blade, dark body, I might use a red or bronze hook. I mainly fish fast, clear water for trout and Atlantic salmon

[@janmurray5522]

Would it effect the intigratey of the single hook left?

[@ivanho308]

I’ve been trying to figure out how to do this on panther martins. Instead of using a split ring, can you just put the open the hoop straight onto the lure?

[@JoelFishes]

You can cut the treble off and squeeze the hook shut around the loop I would imagine. I opt for the split ring for hook mobility mostly.

[@ivanho308]

JoelFishes I ended up using a split ring too. Mostly cause I didn’t feel like buying open ended hooks. Thanks for the response.

[@taggardhecker6380]

Question for the experienced ones, does it affect your hook up ratio?

[@jimmascaro2456]

where is the barrel swivel so they dont twist the lure out of their mouth while fighting. Lure to splitring, splitring to barrel swivel, barrel swivel to siwash. I do this to all of my salmon & steelhead spinners & spoons. Spoons get a splitring & barrel swivel in front as well. As to barrel swivel/splitring being to bulky - its not - most ppl use oversized splitrings, barrel swivels & hk lengths. hooklength - order shorter siwash. Choose the barrel swivel thats 10 - 20 lb rating above line you use (this is a lot smaller than most ppl choose by eye). with splitring you may need to go bigger than lb test rating you need so you can feed it onto spoon. Just use smallest splitring big enough so spoon or spinner moves freely this will more than surpass your line rating. Good subject for a video I just swapped out all my spinners & spoons & reordered new splitrings & barrel swivels (Spro are the best I think).

[@bullyakker]

I tie a snap swivel to the line then attach lures to that. It's a time saver when using spinners.

[@charliecurtis8852]

Why do you keep that thread ring on?

[@jimcastillo8950]

Hello, is there any chance that the siwash hook could open up? I have never used this style of hook. Just asking. I do like to convert my lures to single hooks only because I catch and release..... thanks

[@JoelFishes]

The eye where you attach it? I really don't think you'll see a fish put that much torque on tbh.

[@cody5631]

Too bad can’t do this with panther martins. I find the hooks get dull after 10 or so fish

[@Viggen37]

Get Hook sharpener then

[@josepharvizzigno4641]

What size would you use on the #2 and #1 size Vibrax? Also do you Dress the hooks on occasion.

[@JoelFishes]

Probably a 4 or 6. they get pretty small. In general I leave trebles on my size 0-2 as i'm just throwing them at trout, though these days I smash the barbs down.

[@loklokoppa9255]

Great video. Do you go smaller on the siwash hook and split ring if the inline spinner is smaller?

[@bullyakker]

if say using a size 1 mepps aglia, a size 6 siwash will work great. a size 2 aglia, a size 6 or 4 hook works great. a size 3, 4 or 2 hook works well. a size 0 aglia? I'd likely stick to a size 6 hook but an 8 would work as well. Hope this helps understand the hook sizing. I mostly use Mustad 3366a sprout or the classis 3407 O'Shaughnessy hooks as they have large eyes, aren't too long nor too short..'Just right" Cheers!

[@thomascooper6679]

@@bullyakker Good sizing info, thanks. Do you think there is any advantage to using a Mustad hook with an offset point?

[@bullyakker]

@@thomascooper6679 I forgot to mention I bend the eye backwards a bit as they tend to stay right behind the lure in a more 'tuned' manner than when running a straight hook which will wobble back and forth and may miss half of the strikes (from trout). I haven't found the perfect hook for me yet but this works well and I bend them back with 2 pliers just below the eye. I loved the octopus hooks also but finding large eye-holes and small hooks at a price I like made me start bending my own like when I used to tie certain flies.

[@bullyakker]

@@thomascooper6679 What I started out doing was finding a large eyed hook that was about the same size or slightly smaller than the treble hook and went from there. I primarily fish for trout and small salmon in the smaller rivers. I've tried different lengths and found that the bend was a big key as well as the split-ring size. If it "looks similar to the treble set up" it's likely going to work and it has. In all honesty, we're being nit picky as an hook stuck to the back of a spinner will work. IMHO a split ring and bent back eye of similar size to the treble works best here in New England and worked amazingly well in Idaho also. Cheers!

[@thomascooper6679]

@@bullyakker Some very good ideas Bull, I'm going to try all of them. Thank you.

[@zackmccormick5845]

Is the split ring necessary or can you put the hook directly on the spinner loop?

[@bullyakker]

Some hooks have an 'open eye' which is large and as Joel showed, can be crimped on. You can attach them direct and they will work. (bend the eye back about 15*) I use split rings as it seems to be better but in all truth, it's not a big difference and mostly a preference.

[@feegureeetout]

Sometimes a large single can make the whole spinner spin, rather than just the blade. Thats not a good action, and it twists line. (I dont like using swivel for spinners). But sometimes they run fine with single.

[@geostrong3606]

Thk u what's ur fav color for salmon

[@JoelFishes]

Orange or pink!

[@geostrong3606]

@@JoelFishes cool thk u

[@deerphoria4314]

What size siwash hook would you use for a blue fox #5 or #6? Do you know where I can buy the supplies to make my own blue fox?

[@JoelFishes]

Likely a 0 or 1/0, I honestly haven't used many that big as my focus is steelhead and smaller. I honestly don't know where to get the stuff to make the spinners, but I know my local Sportsman's Warehouse has a pile of random pieces, spinners, etc to make baits.

[@bullyakker]

@@JoelFishes JannsNetCraft dot com has all sorts of stuff if you're looking!

[@Nomadica500]

It’s not only that treble hooks are illegal everywhere idk why they even put them on gear anymore! Complete waste of our money and time.

[@Mahigeer1]

Thanks for posting. However, why use a split ring, if the Siwash hook has a gap in it. Just put the hook on the factory loop and crimp the gap. To use hooks with closed "eye', a spilt ring is needed. There must be a reason for the factory to provide that size of hook. Perhaps to make the weight of both hooks the same.

[@bullyakker]

It helps the hook to move

[@Mahigeer1]

@@bullyakker It makes sense. Thanks for the reply.

[@raygrange7312]

Much better for the fish.

[@hectormunguia1237]

Thanks for the vid. Just my personal 2 cents. Nearly all my local rivers are barbless/lures only and I don’t trust a barbless single hook for s/-/!+ i’ve lost to many on them. a barbless treb usually hooks the upper and lower jaw but even at that i still see fish break water and spit it out. Anyway. Thanks again

[@jameswood97459]

what color works best for you?

[@JoelFishes]

Blue is generally my go to for steelhead but I rotate.

[@nathanwood4001]

What lb test of fluorocarbon would you use for size 4 blue fox spinner? Thank you

[@JoelFishes]

I use 12lb fluoro for my leaders like 90% of the time when throwing for steelhead or coho.

[@nathanwood4001]

What do you use for main line? Thank you

[@JoelFishes]

@@nathanwood4001 20lb Sufix 832 braid. I've used all the braid brands I can think of and 832 is my hands down favorite, and is relatively cheap compared to others. I use it for bass and for SST.

[@nathanwood4001]

Thanks for all the info! I was wanting to double check the hook size..you recommended a size 1 or 2 not 1/0 or 2/0. Thanks again

[@JoelFishes]

@@nathanwood4001 correct. 1/0 and 2/0 are big ol hooks.

[@imawesome5841]

Where did you buy those split rings?

[@JoelFishes]

Link is in the comments, but I got them from Tackle Warehouse. I use them mostly on my bass setups, but they're the best split rings I've seen and probably worth the money if you're upgrading gear bits.

[@imawesome5841]

@@JoelFishes got it thanks. You rock

[@JoelFishes]

@@imawesome5841 Cheers man, good luck out there and thanks for the followup!

[@mattygames1369]

Wrapala

[@feegureeetout]

Also if you get a solid snag with a heavy siwash, you aint gonna straighten that hook and get the spinner back.

[@colinryan2170]

In my country its a 1000 euro fine if u use treble hooks in rivers

[@jasonstouder]

What's that.. like..5 bucks?

[@colinryan2170]

@@jasonstouder 1218 dollars

[@colinryan2170]

@@jasonstouder I don't think its that anymore but I heard a man was fined that

[@keithquinn5624]

This vid could have been 15 seconds...

[@redexexile795]

lol i think he died not a single video in 3 years lol

[@KodyMurray]

You must play guitar if you know polyphia lol

[@lonewizzard8456]

Can't stand a treb....at least for the most part.