How To Take The Back From A Tight Turtle Position

[@MMALeech]

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[@koslim]

Amazing professor.. Explained perfectly

[@MMALeech]

Thank you koslim!

[@islrubsca2330]

Amazing details. So useful. This position comes up so often and this is exactly the video i needed. Keep up the good work professor. Thank you!

[@MMALeech]

You are welcome!

[@Dante3014]

Love the stuff that you are aploading! Thanks

[@MMALeech]

Thank you Archie!

[@mifune3000]

Always top notch technique - Gustavo

[@MMALeech]

Thanks Mike!

[@kevinmcgivern1320]

Love your stuff. Bought many of your courses. Will buy this as soon as my budget permits. Thanks for this technique!

[@MMALeech]

Awesome, thank you!

[@colesouth]

Awesome tips as always, your videos are the best man. When you're trying to get your far side arm in at the very beginning, are you at all concerned about your opponent attaching hard to it/trapping it, and rolling you over the far side? I feel like people sometimes do that to me, rolling me over and I end up losing top position.

[@hermixtonen]

I think the way to prevent that is to not put your far arm very deep around them, or as my coach says “don’t get caught with your hand too far in the cookie jar “

[@MMALeech]

@@hermixtonen 100%

[@MMALeech]

There's always a risk especially if you reach with your arm too deep towards his armpit, making easier to trap it. We are working by his hip/inner thigh, thus reducing the risk, but you can always cup his hip instead to be safer, as demonstrated at 2:14

[@colesouth]

@@MMALeech cool that makes sense, a bit lower than working toward their armpit/shoulder. thanks!

[@MMALeech]

@@colesouth you are welcome

[@Djent7779]

The crucifix is like the truck position but attacking to arms and shoulders

[@DeanHynd]

Amazing vids

[@martinmyggestik292]

His turtle will never be tight if he keeps his elbows like this and gives away the underhook. What is shown here is brilliant strategies against the turtle on display - only problem is that it's not tight at all.

[@MMALeech]

He has a choice between keeping his elbows tight and fall, most of the time ending up on bottom side control as demonstrated at 2:40, or add some base by opening his elbows to prevent being broken down to his hip, thus loosing up his turtle. If his turtle wasn't tight from the beginning I wouldn't have to break him down, I would've just taken my seatbelt and hooks.

[@martinmyggestik292]

I agree with you that if he is put in that situation at 2:40 then he doesn't have much of a choice. What I don't understand is why he doesn't cover his hips with his elbows in the beginning (tight turtle). Giving away space at the hip is the beginning of the end. I know that most people still turtle this way, so it's still relevant to attack like this - and what you show is really good for this. But skilled turtle players don't turtle like this any more. The only thing I don't agree with is the turtle being tight - everything else makes sense when attacking an "open" turtle.

[@MMALeech]

@@martinmyggestik292 the initial break down technique still works if he has his elbows by his hips. It won't prevent my hand from getting in controlling his inner thigh, I won't be able to connect my elbow to his hip because his elbow is on the way, but instead I will connect my elbow to his elbow, which is connected to his hip, generating the same effect. I agree that my partner should've demonstrated it better, but the end result is the same.

[@martinmyggestik292]

Thank you for the dialogue. When turteling guy has his elbow on the inside of your grip it is really easy for him to strip your thight grip (compared to outside). He can also base with his knees wider because (of the hips covered) he doesn't have to worry about the gap. It's not really me disagreeing... I'm just citing Priit Mikhelson as good as I can, really. Try looking him up - his take on a tight turtle game is bloody brilliant. A lot of guys are adapting to it now. I'm really not trying to discredit your video. I'm a fan of your work. But there's a new wind blowing when it comes to turtle and you really want to be on that train.

[@MMALeech]

@@martinmyggestik292 No problem Martin. I'm familiar with Priit work, it's indeed good stuff.

[@andyx2299]

nicccce ^^ Oss

[@bb-me9in]

Ready 2 ride the guy Wtf

[@Djent7779]

You should lose points for turtling and pulling guard from standing

[@TrapGambino]

Knee

[@Djent7779]

Never turtle. If you turtle practice flip reverting to your back

[@jitsfreakli]

eduardo telles disagrees

[@Djent7779]

@@jitsfreakli if you are in turtle you have lost!! This is life and death... no sport

[@EternalSafahat]

@@Djent7779in real life obviously but this only for ju-jitsu and trust me any good ju-jitsu would beat any normal guy or gym goer

[@HeavyHunter16]

Against a good turtle that wont work