Everything you need to know when replacing your motorcycle’s chain and sprockets rvz.la/4bESqCU Chain care product guide: rvz.la/4f3j4bi
@Amish_ParadiseАй бұрын
Ari is the real G
@Towerman0116Ай бұрын
Another tip is to eplace the cheaper front sprocket every 10,000 miles. This helps to extend chain and rear sprocket life considerably, as it is the hooking of a worn front sprocket that destroys chains very quickly 👍
@JohnDoe-xr5isАй бұрын
I will say, when KZbin suggests a motorcycle video from Ari...you know it's going to be quality.
@AriH211Ай бұрын
Great to know that's our reputation!
@Kuro-qy8bkАй бұрын
The Shop Manual is like the motorcycling version of "explain it to me like I'm five". Always easy to understand why certain things needs to be done and properly explained so easy to follow.
@johnnymatesАй бұрын
I have a shaft drive and it's been years since I've lubed up a chain. But it's just such a pleasure to watch Ari explain stuff...
@rokuplayz46413 күн бұрын
Came here to say something similar
@eightballsidepocketАй бұрын
Massive thanks for showing the bad ones and not just describing them!!
@AriH211Ай бұрын
Yup! I hold onto thrashed parts for exactly that reason.
@athiftsabit12087 күн бұрын
@@AriH211lol, but that's great for education purposes, thanks!
@ZerbiiАй бұрын
My worn out chain, laid out next to a new chain with same number of links, old chain was stretched ~1.5 links longer than the new one.
@aluisiousАй бұрын
That's too much dude
@Angry-LynxАй бұрын
Normal and too be expected
@AriH211Ай бұрын
@@Angry-Lynx Meh, not really! Spec on a sealed chain is 1% elongation. It's double that for unsealed chains, so 1.5x length is on the verge of having some pins wear through!
@orlanmedina3693Ай бұрын
Time to cut it! 😂
@daemonoid9836Ай бұрын
You read my mind! Had today planned for chain maintenance and was going to look into tips for checking for wear, couldn't have asked for better timing 😅 quality and presentstion top-notch, as usual!
@forryscАй бұрын
I’ve been a motorcyclist for 40 years. I still learn things from these videos. Thanks Ari.
@shaundisch2020Ай бұрын
How could this video be better than 40 years of experience????
@forryscАй бұрын
@@shaundisch202040 years experience doesn't mean 40 years of doing things correctly. I am always open to the fact I can learn more.
@Vishnu-BАй бұрын
@@shaundisch2020 if you have an open mind and no ego, you will always have something to learn. Thats just how this world is. If you think you are a know-it-all, you wont learn anything and before long you'll be left behind. Respect and more force to you sir @forrysc
@AJ-em2rbАй бұрын
4 minute video in 2024? pinch me i'm dreaming. keep the good content coming!
@AriH211Ай бұрын
No fluff here, man. We produce the vids we want to see - accurate and to the point!
@marcoluoma3770Ай бұрын
Thanks, I never miss a TSM episode. Keep 'em coming.
@CarlishoАй бұрын
Shoutout to all chain havers that actually take care of their chains, you guys have a place in motorcycle heaven.
@JoLXPАй бұрын
Every 500 km I clean and lube.
@kignacioАй бұрын
I’ve lubed my chain once in 17,000 miles. About 2 years old. Triumph T100 full throttle riding. Original sprockets still look good at 25,000 miles.
@guyetlaurence7142Ай бұрын
Clear and simple video, excellent presentation! I wish all KZbinrs did the same. Outstanding work, bravo!
@clintbuhs7708Ай бұрын
We really need to avoid the term "tension" when talking about machine chains. The only tension applied is that created by the engine. We adjust slack, not tension. Talking about tension gives inexperienced folks the impression that their chain should be snug in some way, which can be disastrous. More than a few riders have taken all the slack out when the swingarm is in a position that allows huge tension to develop during a ride. That does ugly things to an engine.
@druegemeАй бұрын
Yes. Tension applies to drive belts. Slack applies to chains.
@SqueakyNebАй бұрын
That's a good point. I'm not usually a stickler for terminology as long as everyone knows what we're talking about, but that's one that can pretty badly mislead people who are new to it. I'm gonna be careful about that one.
@boanervАй бұрын
i love that every Shop Manual video i watch i can just 'Thumb up' it before watching. the content is always correct and its presented quick and tidy. textbook YT videos.
@JpOcDenverАй бұрын
Years ago I had a worn chain replaced by my shop. They insisted the sprockets were fine and admittedly, they did look good. My new high-end chain was completely worn out within MONTHS. I ran through all the adjustment on my bike lightning fast. Always do chain and sprockets together. It ends up actually saving you money, not costing more.
@Choirboyjr11Ай бұрын
I also like how some manufacturers have squared ends on the pins. That way you know if it's not parallel with the link, that pin is binding or worn out.
@sekaf4125Ай бұрын
made several purchases at reveille. LOVE the shop Manuel vids. Thank you!!!!
@AriH211Ай бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@aniynАй бұрын
Can we get an air filter episode next? They're sort of invisible and frequently get ignored 😅
@AriH211Ай бұрын
That's a topic I have on the roster.
@v_s_6031Ай бұрын
Much love from here in India. This is a kinda sorta big bike for us here in Asia. Any content that’s applicable to us is much appreciated! You guys are awesome. Subbed before I even saw a video. Thanks for what you do for the community and Im super stoked for more motorcycle content!
@brianm263Ай бұрын
I don't even have a chain anymore ( shaft drive). But I like watching because... Ari. Clear, concise, and informative. Some of the best videos on the Internet. And maybe I can help a friend check their chain now.
@timdavis6088Ай бұрын
32k miles on the OEM chain set on a 2004 600RR using only Lucas 90w gear oil. The chain adjustment sticker stills shows "NEW" or in the green meaning, it hasn't stretched. FortNine already told you that chain wax is not the best option. It certainly isn't the cheapest either.
@jh97001Ай бұрын
I use Ipone.
@steveman1982Ай бұрын
Chains do not stretch though. If they would, you'd rev it once, and need a new chain.
@thefabooАй бұрын
@@steveman1982 not like rubberbands but they do slowly stretch. That's why you (usually 😉) need to tighten them occasionally and also why a lot of bikes have an indicator showing how far you can tighten them before it should be replaced.
@mad082sssАй бұрын
@@thefaboo they don't stretch, they wear. The plates don't get longer. What actually happens is that the holes in the inner plates gets bigger and the pins get smaller, which allows the chain to elongate. Sealed chains keep the pins lubricated better, reducing wear, which is why they last longer.
@valeblizАй бұрын
@@thefaboowhat you believe is stretching is just wear on the pins and bushings.
@Raphtalia07Ай бұрын
I didn't have someone I grew up with to teach this to me. Thanks a lot!
@tonylastname6468Ай бұрын
These are the chains that bind. Chain of command. Good chain of events. See how I linked those puns. You've got a great chain gang there.
@4CEYLONАй бұрын
Thank you Ari
@_JP18Ай бұрын
Best moto maintenance videos on KZbin!
@raymadani270Ай бұрын
Thanks Ari. The Shop manual series are not to be missed at all.
@BenJongUnАй бұрын
Thank you for the reminder to clean my chain.. :') Great content as always from you Ari. :D
@mavenmaven4513Ай бұрын
That was exactly the advice I need right now
@ottomondo1368Ай бұрын
Every episode of Shop Manual is gold. Revzilla deserves my business.
@pinkies_up_garageАй бұрын
Awesome as usual Ari. Also thank you for making this seem a lot less daunting than I previously thought
@AriH211Ай бұрын
It's not daunting at all! It's super easy and an important inspection.
@pinkies_up_garageАй бұрын
@@AriH211 well my Scram 411 is scheduled in my driveway for tomorrow
@mooman12Ай бұрын
Thanks, very useful information. 👍
@cranfktubner7677Ай бұрын
Excellent 🎊just learned few things (or stuff i forgot 😅)
@DIYmotorcycleАй бұрын
I have a 2022 Ducati 8800 Mi on it and the chain is only showing slight signs of wear. Of course I have kept it extremely clean I clean it about every 300 mi and lubricate. I have a whole new setup ready to go on the bike but I don't think I'm going to need it for quite a while.
@hueyfreeman7810Ай бұрын
as some who enjoys riding as much as fixing/upgrading the parts on my bike, i can't tell you how excited i would be for this particular maintenance. 🤤🤤🤤🤤
@syedahmadqusoiri3067Ай бұрын
Quality video.. full of hard facts and visualisation.. thumbs up!
@yourivleghert8365Ай бұрын
DID all the way, just replaced mine again on my H2 after 26.000 km. The tention on the rear by pulling the chain away from the rearsprocket could also be an indication that you need to tighten up for the chain slack so you might want to check that first.
@XSR_9001Ай бұрын
Great video. To the point and informative. I always look forward to these, and any Revzilla content for that matter. Just bought a new summer riding jacket from you guys. Keep up the great work.
@AriH211Ай бұрын
Glad you like the vids, and thanks for the support!
@m.on.a.b.Ай бұрын
Very nice and informative video! Here in Germany a worn out chain is a reason for failes state inspecion
@moomoodeadcow23 күн бұрын
Also you want to generally refrain from repairing broken or old chains if possible. A chain is only as strong as the weakest link. Something like that. Buying new is just easier. I've seen new chains snap too. Don't be shocked. So personally, I'd like to lower my risks as much as possible.
@jayzee1968Ай бұрын
Thank you for another one, sir! You and Zack… legends. :)
@pol-pg4tlАй бұрын
I still remember watching this topic on mc garage
@clintsrideАй бұрын
Thanks for that, will need to check my chain and sprocket now 😁
@CRFLAusАй бұрын
With a modern sealed chain the lube or no lube discussion is interesting. I always lube because it gives me a chance to spend some time cleaning it off my bike. It's therapeutic.
@M4ttM4n20Ай бұрын
Great video, although I get 2-3 chains per sprocket set. I only use D.I.D chains and JT Steel Sprockets.
@aluisiousАй бұрын
Tips for chain life: Buy the most heavy duty chain you can get. I got a 530 DID Xring. It's at 23 thousand miles and it's going strong, better than the engine. The factory chain was done in 13k miles. When you're putting it on, goop as much chain lube as you can on the link. Fill the hole with goop, cover the pin with as much goop as you can. When you're pushing the pin in, block the hole with your finger to keep the goop in. All that lube that you seal in with the orings and the plate is what keeps your chain lubed and keeps it from stretching. You cannot have too much.
@user-mb4xy2cz3t11 күн бұрын
Let me give you an advice on how to keep your chain run longer for cheap. Because if you use specialized lube and specialized cleaner, those are costly, the cost can easily add up to costing as much as new quality chain and sprockets set over just one chain lifetime. So the secret is - you clean it with diesel fuel(don't clean with kerosene, despite many recommend it) and you lube the chain with gear oil 80/85w-90. Buy a small plastic oil can for oiling sewing machines, and you apply as tiny dropes as you can make directly onto the o-rings, it may seem tedious, but it only takes like 3-5 minutes. Then you give your chain a good wipe with a cloth or paper towel, and you're good to go. Another part of the secret is you need to keep your chain well adjusted, and don't overtighten it! Riding with poorly adjusted chain and especially if it's overtightened, will kill it way faster than not oiling it. Or if your a wasteful person that has money, and your bike doesn't sit in the garrage for 10 years, you can just neglect oiling your chain and cleaning it often, just clean it with diesel fuel evey couple of thousand of miles or when becomes very dirty. Quality chain form brands Ari listed in the video, will last you at least 15k miles even if you neglect them, just don't forget to keep the chain properly adjusted.
@boingksterАй бұрын
Ah yes, straight to eBay for the cheapest chain money can buy! I'm joking of course, but just a thought - how quickly to the very cheap chain sets wear? What if they are lubricated with an on-bike system like Scottoiler or Tutoro? Cheers for all you guys do!
@jensenmiller6410Ай бұрын
Used a cheap $40 525 chain from niche. Got about 3k miles before the orings started vanishing. Not terrible for a $40 chain but for $20 more I could put on a Primary Drive 520 from rocky and I've already gotten double the distance the Niche gave and still going.
@luis4727Ай бұрын
i bought a 25$ plain chain and it lasted about 3k miles? i should have probably changed it sooner tho
@AriH211Ай бұрын
I put a budget chain on my Versys 650 and it was junk at 5,000 miles. Stock chain lasted about 17,000 as I recall. The difference in quality goes deep. Metal alloys, hardening techniques, clearances between pins and bushings, quality of the grease, quality of the o-rings, etc.
@SqueakyNebАй бұрын
Another neat tip I was hoping to see mentioned is: when you're cleaning the chain, check the slack at a few different points along the chain. If it varies, you're approaching end of life. I've no idea why the wear varies along the length, but it does sometimes.
@warbot2544Ай бұрын
At one point my bike chain is too loose and on it's exact opposite side it too tight , to the extent it make kit kit noise , So do i need to change it ? I ride max at 60-70kmph and my bike is a 150cc yamaha r15
@MaaZeus25 күн бұрын
Just what the doctor ordered. I have never changed the chain in my 2005 Speedmaster in 3 years that I have owned it and I have been wondering if it is time for that. I am also very lazy with my chain mainteance. I never clean it, only lubricate it few times per riding season. 😅 I probably should pony up for the belt drive conversion kit that exists for this bike...
@Towerman0116Ай бұрын
Replacing the cheaper front sprocket every 10,000 miles helps to extend chain and rear sprocket life considerably, as it is the hooking of a worn front sprocket that destroys chains very quickly 👍
@markbrown-us4xeАй бұрын
Years back my friend parked his bike for the winter and the battery leaked on the chain. It snapped in two shortly after. Don't cheap out. Thanks and thinking of you on the 4th after seeing some photos on your post.
@markchristianson8178Ай бұрын
Thank you !!
@avikrpanditАй бұрын
Simple and effective ❤❤❤
@keravnousАй бұрын
How about a video about axles? Great work guys n gals!
@bernardofidalgo1808Ай бұрын
You're the man
@ikarikuАй бұрын
Thanks Ari.
@mosca3289Ай бұрын
Great timing to hear this.
@jh97001Ай бұрын
Anyone knows if there are any real benefits to aftermarket chains and sprockets in comparison to OEM sets?
@SmogPhantomАй бұрын
50 000 miles with DID chain and sprockets on my Suzuki GSX 1250 FA
@v795619Ай бұрын
Love 'The Shop Manual' series. Going to the garage now to check mine! Thanks 👍
@refiusetotellmyname6758Ай бұрын
Dude! You are ripped! and i'm even str8
@alangrant5219Ай бұрын
Another great video! Do you think a video on checking valve clearances would be out of scope for SM videos?
Always change your chain & sprockets at the same time. I run my sprockets untill theybegin to show signs of hooking. By then the chain is worn out too.
@MG-vo7isАй бұрын
Thank you!!!
@rebelmehdiАй бұрын
thanks
@Scooterdude01Ай бұрын
Good advice, thanks. I use chain wax before every ride (almost) but didn't know how to check for wear.
@AriH211Ай бұрын
Now ya do!
@erichat5921Ай бұрын
I guess I did a good job cause I got 27,000 miles out of my last chain and it wasn't even that bad when I swapped it! I could have gotten away with atleast a few more thousand at least, I had 4 places "kinking" however they easily returned with a finger push.
@Kevin-px7soАй бұрын
Ari…Legend
@Amish_ParadiseАй бұрын
i just learned he is married. welp
@DesertDucАй бұрын
In addition to the "get what you pay for" argument make sure the chain is actually RATED for your bike. You can spend $150 on a chain made for a 450 dirt bike that won't handle a Z900, and you can spend $150 on a chain made for a Z900 that's bigger and heavier than a KX450 needs... Have sold chains to customers who made the "just as good" argument to me that ended up on the side of the road with a snapped chain and damaged plastics, and that's the lucky outcome.
@kithartwell459320 күн бұрын
Thank you:)
@lachy1709Ай бұрын
Fresh Shop Manual video
@AutomotiveAllStarsАй бұрын
Nice vid
@LTVoyagerАй бұрын
I am not convinced a chain needs to be lubricated if it is a sealed type chain. After seeing an experiment a KLR 650 owner did where I only cleaned his chain with WD40 and didn’t lubricate it and had it last something like 36,000 miles, I decided to do the same with my new KLR. So far I have over 5,000 miles and have only had to adjust the chain slightly one time. The chain doesn’t attract dirt like a lubricated chain and thus doesn’t form the grinding compound that, I believe, is what wears out the chain and sprockets faster. So far, I am very happy running my chain clean and dry and will continue to do so. Another advantage is a nice clean rear wheel. I do lubricated chain the chain lightly to prevent surface rust during the off season, but then clean it off with WD40 in the spring.
@mad082sssАй бұрын
From my understanding, the seals on the chain need some sort of external lubricant to help keep them in good shape. You also want a small amount of lubricant on the surface of the rollers and teeth of the sprockets as there is a small amount of friction as they make contact. And you want something to inhibit rust. Having said all that, you are correct about it possibly turning into a grinding paste (but rust will also increase wear). None of the lube applied to a sealed chain will increase the life of the internals of the chain. A lot of solvents and cleaners will penetrate past the seals and break down the internal grease, which can shorten the life of the chain though. WD40 is 1 of those products. It's a really well marketed product but not actually very good at anything
@LTVoyagerАй бұрын
@@mad082sss Yes, those are all of the old wives tales, but I will take real data any day. I saw the report of the gentleman, I think it was Wattman who makes the KLR ThermBob, but I am not sure and can’t find the report now, who ran the WD40 experiment with fantastic results. Basically no maintenance and no messy chain and rear end of bike and still go more mileage from his chain and sprockets than do most folks who lather lube on their chains. I don’t buy that the seals on the chain need external lube. They get all they need from internal lube. Do you lube the external seals on the rest of your bike? Do you lube the external side of the wheel bearing seals? The engine and transmission external seals? Some solvents may get past an o-ring chain, but that is not likely unless you use a lot of it or spray it on with force. WD40 is not one of those solvents as the Wattman report aptly demonstrated. And many others have submerged o-rings in WD40 for long periods of time without issue. I think Project Farm is one who did that. WD40 is marketed pretty accurately. The name itself tells you what the function is. Hard to get more transparent than that. WD40 is primarily used to displace water and prevent rust from said water. It does that very well. I use it on my chain after riding in the rain and the chain doesn’t rust. It also can be used as a penetrating oil and works about as good as most others do, which is to say not very good as no penetrating oil makes much of a difference as Project Farm and others have demonstrated. A fire wrench is what works on well rusted fasteners.
@mad082sssАй бұрын
@@LTVoyager i was wrong about the wd40 penetrating past seals. I went back and looked at some videos I'd watched on I'd. I had it mixed up with something else. But it is bad for some types of rubber (you can pop a rubber balloon by spraying WD40 on it), but most seals that are designed to deal with oil or grease are fine with it.
@LTVoyagerАй бұрын
@@mad082sss Most balloons are made from latex, not rubber.
@user-mb4xy2cz3t11 күн бұрын
Another sign your chain is dying, is if you notice you need to adjust your chain way more often, the closer the chain to its end of life, the faster it's stretching.
@rafaelborges3096Ай бұрын
Really good info. I'm wondering what are the consequences of not replacing the chain when its due time comes. More noise? Will it snap easier?
@eliodecolliАй бұрын
but how often should I lubricate and clean my chain?
@ninjaguysithАй бұрын
500 miles or immediately after riding in the rain/dirt, especially in areas that salt their roads.
@milankanazir5852Ай бұрын
two cheins and still same sprocket, when chain start singing it's time to new, 33000km on ich, three chain and got new sprocket, 530 its big and heavy chain
@budias9051Ай бұрын
those arms are guns indeed
@flyjayUKАй бұрын
The best thing to do is just replace your chain if it gets dirty. Costs a bloody fortune but everyone comments that my chain looks like new.
@DevinBidwellКүн бұрын
What about belts?
@lennyk75Ай бұрын
what about if you rotate your wheel and your chain is very tight in on position and lose in other? Is it done and you need to replace it? I had one and service shop told me that it need to be change.
@AriH211Ай бұрын
Great point. It's possible and not unusual for chains to wear unevenly, so checking the entire length of the chain is the right approach. Any tight spots are a warning that your chain is starting to bind, and once it does it will wear very quickly.
@mrshadeshadyАй бұрын
Thanks for the great info. What exactly are you lubricating on a sealed chain?
@dominicelek9394Ай бұрын
Contact between chain and sprocket, help prevent rust
@Fortis_1337Ай бұрын
The seals
@AriH211Ай бұрын
Not much, actually. Aerosol lubes can help keep the o-rings pliable and provide some lubrication to the rollers (which stop rolling as soon as they contact the sprocket teeth). It's mostly about corrosion resistance.
@mrshadeshadyАй бұрын
@@AriH211 Excellent, thank you.
@MrMoneyHelperАй бұрын
More scooter repair and maintenance tips.
@geoffhurley8103Ай бұрын
I tried a $35 o-ring chain and sprockets set and it lasted through one oil change.
@marsrover001Ай бұрын
If you run out of adjuster, a new chain you must muster. If it ain't skipping, I ain't fixing.
@AriH211Ай бұрын
Lol.
@sounakghosh9335Ай бұрын
Should I put in a heavier chain for better quality or the OEM one with lighter and poor quality? Please suggest
@Pathik5289Ай бұрын
Can you please tell me the name of the honda motorcycle that is featured in this video ?
@thingthingsssАй бұрын
I ride a shaft drive so the only real maintenance I need is changing the gear oil lol.
@mike17032Ай бұрын
I can’t justify doing the sprockets each time, I tend to go every other. It really jumps the cost up to have the sprockets replaced at my shop.
@tarouyamada2686Ай бұрын
Ok, now moving to the other can of worms, rivet or clip when replacing the chain on bigger bikes with power in the triple digits? 🤔
@doolarАй бұрын
@@michaelmurdock4607100% agree. A good rivet tool is €/$~100 or so, and will last a lifetime if you take care of it.
@erichat5921Ай бұрын
Rivet, always Rivet!!! Trust me! (Although you have zero reasons to listen to me)
@AriH211Ай бұрын
Go rivet unless you think you'll need to remove your chain for some reason. For example, in roadracing we use clip links (that get safety wired) since you often change chain length when changing gearing (to maintain wheelbase/swingarm angle).
@martinivanov1319Ай бұрын
my chain is slightly jumping up and down when on central stand and in gear spinning. it might be for change? idk can also feel the bike not moving smooth when at 1st gear moving slowly at idle
@MangoMungosMonsterMenagerieАй бұрын
Probably noy when your bike is on your stand the rear suspension is at its longest and the chain will be more slack than at any other possition this will be even more the case on bikes with long travel suspension (like a offroad bike). A slacker chain will jump a bit as the enginepulses pulls the chain thaught and the luls between the pulses slackens the chain. What id do in your caseturn the rear wheel by hand and look for kinks in the chain and frozen links. Id also check the chain tension
@AriH211Ай бұрын
The chain will jump and hope when the bike is on a stand and while riding very slowly. At those low revs there's isn't consistent load on the engine so the power pulses kind of jerk the chain rather than pulling smoothly like it does at higher revs.
@peterkiro2132Ай бұрын
No vortex
@perpetualgrin5804Ай бұрын
Changing the chain and sprockets, the closest to a new bike.
@rackbitesАй бұрын
The bristles on those special chain brushes are WAY too stiff ... they puncture and damage the O-Rings on chains and greatly decrease the chain's life as they let the lube out and water in ... ask me how I know ... I now never use anything other than an old toothbrush on an O-Ring chain.
@ianmalleau3398Ай бұрын
Thanks for the great tips yet again Ari. What do you think of the new 'maintenance free' chains? I think BMW came out with one and some other companies will no doubt follow suit..
@AriH211Ай бұрын
They're rubbish, as explained in this article I did a while back: www.revzilla.com/common-tread/bmws-maintenance-free-m-endurance-chain-put-to-the-test
@ianmalleau3398Ай бұрын
@@AriH211 Good to know! Thanks again Ari.
@pmdinazАй бұрын
Smash like!
@xAbhimanewАй бұрын
i replace them when my rear sprocket stars slipping.
@jasonjulian1Ай бұрын
Hey now, I’ve got Niche chains on 3 bikes for thousands of miles without issue….
@DailyRider69Ай бұрын
I've seen a chain so worn out that it was tight in one spot and so loose in another where it had stretched out that the chain would slap the swing arm continuously with every rotation.
@warbot2544Ай бұрын
How is that possible? Loose at one place and tight at other ? Chain is a circle
@DailyRider69Ай бұрын
@warbot2544 good question. But haven't you noticed that as the chain wears out, the chain slack measures different when you spin the tire and go around and check the slack in different spots?
@robbieracer3294Ай бұрын
If anyone has ever seen a chain snap while riding....just thank god you werent behind them when it did. Dont take the risk, replace that shite