Cheers Derek. I read this article in the mag when it arrived. This was the way we had always done it trying to make sure the end of the hose was squarely cut and if you cannot find the isolotor getting a good shock off the ignition ( ask the apprentice to hold it) no seriously that is frowned on now. Ordered my test point as soon I finished watching this video
@markchristohperowen68062 жыл бұрын
lpg no leakeage.
@copperskills39732 жыл бұрын
A lot of cookers come with a working pressure extended injector on the grill or oven. Great for doing hobs though. Thanks for taking the time to make the video 👍
@mostlikelywedoitservices6926 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I am dealing with a gas range and no dam port after the gas regulator on the range. And I don't know reg bad or malfunctioning oven burner. So I ordered two of those test adapters, one for backup. Again thank you.
@Purebeltersteve2 жыл бұрын
Derek, i use that exact same manometer you have. Probably the most reliable one ive ever used. Just buy a new one every year for calibration and for price, its a steal
@milkman1000012 жыл бұрын
purchased 2 of them in the end.fantastic little gadget. thanks for this vid. great help.
@carlreville71252 жыл бұрын
Been using the screw in test nipple for about 18 months for cookers. Bought of eBay.👍🏻
@mohammednadeem72742 жыл бұрын
Great video Derek once again & well explained. Nice little gadget to buy if we need to test on the cookers safely.. Thanks for the update.. 👍😁
@raul8352 жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always Derek. Can I suggest a video on gas fires. On how to identify the different types etc
@Falcon-eh8tq2 жыл бұрын
I like this idea, I'll start. If it sounds like a runaway freight train and is orange, it's the acetylene cylinder the apprentice just brought inside.
@e.n.l19762 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, ordering one now, will make life a lot easier and yes that electric shock is never fun!
@themadhatter47612 жыл бұрын
Great informative video, thanks for the effort making these videos. 👍👍👍🇬🇧
@CommercialGasEngineerVideos2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, hope Tom Kat and all the viewers are having a good long weekend easter break.
@mj0n4id362 жыл бұрын
Great video. Well explained. If I ever have to carry out this test, I’ll just come and watch this free video again 😎. Thanks Derek 👍🏻 Asian Jon.
@davidmarsden88682 жыл бұрын
Been using then for a couple of years.. Great little gadget Got mine from Hamilton Gas.
@ashvanbro9329 Жыл бұрын
Great work DEREK
@OHYEAHGAMEVIDEOS2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are excellent. Thank you
@diamondheatingandplumbingl20642 жыл бұрын
I made a test point from 4” of 8mm copper and a spare injector.
@jockster55252 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for your efforts 👍☺️
@bentzionroyde47862 жыл бұрын
Thanks Derek great video
@saidhissoufi2772 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your efforts
@all4heatinggaslimited40 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Derek
@shanehunt83602 жыл бұрын
Interesting as always 👍
@industrialchristian74532 жыл бұрын
Check it the good old fashioned way. Unscrew the jet, turn cooker knob to minimum, light the gas and turn knob to max. Flame should be at least 1000mm high.
@abuadammemon39682 жыл бұрын
Can anyone give me ebay links to buy this injector extension please.
@willlomas27252 жыл бұрын
Cheers Derek.
@qmob012110 ай бұрын
Really need a cooker service one like removing oven burners
@antoniogalluccio42132 жыл бұрын
Can we have a link to that injector test point over 5£?
@tejs6993 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the FSD on the burner stop the gas coming to the burner your testing?
@nkhalid6772 жыл бұрын
Brilliant sir
@tspirit998 ай бұрын
What monometer are you using to wirelessly connect to your phone?
@johnward50062 жыл бұрын
Don't think I've had cause to criticise you before, but, and Don't see this as a negative comment. Firstly, attempting to attach a uguage hose to an injector is ABSOLUTELY a NO DO!! Best test nipple is as used by Calor engineers, but the one you used is fine, just nip it up or use gas tape to ensure finger tight leak free. Calor nipple has neoprene washer, so is only designed for minimal tightening. If testing hob only, testing with three burners lit at full rate is the requirement,which leaves the fourth and ideally the smallest available for fitting the adaptor. Where a fifth burner, (eg Wok burner) or even more then obviously to arrive at an accurate pressure drop, this needs to be taken I to consideration. With regard to the usual fith burner on hobs, the pressure drop will often surprise. With cookers the effect ovens/ grills have on pressure drops also needs to be considered. With regard to LPG, if no meter is installed, usual on single dwellings, there will always, or should be an outlet test point. To quote Mikey Pipes ( check out his utube channel, it's great) if you ain't testing, your guessing. Just a little extra advice for anyone thinking of getting into LPG, orange rubber hoses quickly get devoured by the Gas.
@tomkatgastraining2 жыл бұрын
Don’t want to criticise your comment but guess you didn’t watch the full video then 🙄
@johnward50062 жыл бұрын
@@tomkatgastraining I've watched the video twice since your response, and have to say if I where a trainee or inexperienced in the industry, I would be confused. TB161 ,in my humble opinion, and I've just read it again, it's very badly presented. Regardless of one's interpretation of TB161, I stand by my way of confirming, lack of gas rating ability withstanding, is a safer and more reliable way confirming compliance. Testing working pressure on a cooker with two burners operating doesn't cut it for me. Cooking appliances have to operate, as with all appliances as designed. Please read my comments again, and if you conclude I'm missing something, I'm always open to discussion.
@tomkatgastraining2 жыл бұрын
@@johnward5006 like I said in the video if I had used all for rings doing the test on the cookers injector I would probably set myself on fire. Yes you are correct I should have used 3 rings on doing the test but I know some cookers only say use one other ring and others say 2 like I did. At the end of the day again like I say in the video it’s not needed for Nat gas most of the time as you can do working pressure at the meter gas rate and put other appliances on to test the flame picture. Lpg though is a different matter. Sorry I disappointed you with this video but it was only for make engineers aware of the tb and to get over to trainees that it can be dangerous if you use a u gauge or a small injector. I will try harder next time 😋
@johnward50062 жыл бұрын
@@tomkatgastraining understand Derek, will clarify
@johnward50062 жыл бұрын
Understand absolutely Derek, will speak to Gas Safe after Easter for clarification. Again Gas Safe cover their rear ends with such poor quality offerings. If I'd written this bulletin, I'd make it clear that pressure loss and flame picture and if possible Gas rating would be mandatory. To suggest appliance working pressure testing needs clarification is a sad reflection on a highly regulated industry. When I first embarked on LPG training in 1968, Test nipples were the norm Any Gas engineer who doesn't have an injector adaptor is categorically not being serious.
@leemorris894910 ай бұрын
Is this test the same for just a gas hob eg a 5 burner gas hob
@dickiedubs31375 ай бұрын
The problem starts when there's FSDs .....which most have now
@paul_my_plumbs_uk2 жыл бұрын
Link please to the gas test adapter please Del
@Ashroyer86 Жыл бұрын
Im glad our currency doesnt weigh pounds in the u.s. especially with inflation.
@antoniogalluccio4213 Жыл бұрын
Hi, shouldn't be 3 burners lit and 1 under test? I saw you've done it with 2 burners lit the third on under test and 4th off. Did I never get it right?
@cerealkiller42482 ай бұрын
We test from the meter with three burners lit. By testing from the injector direct, effectively there are three burners using gas, it’s just that only two of them are actually lit.
@suewarrington81552 жыл бұрын
👍Sue Warrington
@petermcdonagh66692 жыл бұрын
Thanks Derek top video as usual what eBay shop did you get them from.
@tomkatgastraining2 жыл бұрын
Not a clue Kate ordered it for me 😋
@viratpatel3752 жыл бұрын
@@tomkatgastraining what did they put in the search engine please
@tomkatgastraining2 жыл бұрын
@@viratpatel375 gas hob jet pressure test point
@markchristohperowen68062 жыл бұрын
lpg. no unburned being leaked. is that why they brought this in? or did someone really put themself on fire?............. why are you only using 2 burners? i always tested with 3 on and 4rth as test point? with all appliances running at max if there was no external test point. anyway im happy if im wrong i overkilled it. sorry don't do ebay
@tomkatgastraining2 жыл бұрын
Working pressure at the meter is yes 3 biggest rings running I had 2 running and used the 3rd to get the readings as the manufacturers don’t give the pressure readings. Some cooker manufacturers only require one ring running while you are taking the readings others 2. As the technician bulletin said the rings running will depend on the cooker manufacturers. Also didn’t want to set myself on fire while doing it 😜
@markchristohperowen68062 жыл бұрын
im a dumbass and cant spell.. we test at the applance right? the whole point is that all appliances have enough gas to work at their air gas mixtures right? third ring was static right?
@tomkatgastraining2 жыл бұрын
@@markchristohperowen6806 correct we are always trying to achieve complete combustion because if we don’t people could die of co poisoning
@markchristohperowen68062 жыл бұрын
@@tomkatgastraining you degress my point was you should have had three rings burning. right? and all appliences running at max. and then used a test point be it at the nipple or on the pipework............ i'll go read up. i know i'm probably wrong. you lot run a gas place in manchester that accredits people. buy better glass manomiters? they have a cross you have at the bottom that stabalizes the u gauge. wind blew mine over once. cost me a replacement glass tube........ and it doesnt need calibrating. thank you for your uploads as always.
@tomkatgastraining2 жыл бұрын
@@markchristohperowen6806 because of the way meters and pipes are sized you don’t have to have all the other appliances running at the same time it now says to have a maximum of 3.5 m3 and a minimum of 0.5m3 running when testing at the meter. So unless you have concerns about an appliance you need to check the pipe sizing and operation. So when testing a cooker you have the 3 biggest rings running and check at the meter you have 21mbs +/- 2 mbrs no need to have all the others running unless you think the pipe is undersized then you put the smallest cooker ring on low then turn on the boiler at max and see if it affects the safe operation of the appliances ie incomplete combustion or flame going out. I hope that answers your questions
@milkman1000012 жыл бұрын
i once did that test over the injector using the rubber hose and the chap who was testing me told me that it wasnt a proper way for testing inlet pressures.so whats changed?
@tomkatgastraining2 жыл бұрын
It’s testing operation pressure not inlet because it’s after the gas tap. It’s always been done like this as long as I have been in gas which is a long time now I guess it’s just been brought out because engineers must be turning appliances off because of no test point when they shouldn’t be doing.
@milkman1000012 жыл бұрын
@@tomkatgastraining I'll bring this up next year at the center.ive my renewals in around 10 months. I'm talking nearly 10 years ago now when I got told I couldn't do it like that. Interesting to see what he says when I bring it up.
@qmob012110 ай бұрын
Anyone got a link
@chrisillingworth79672 жыл бұрын
Where do you get the test nipple adaptor from?
@chrisillingworth79672 жыл бұрын
Fantastic and informative as always Thank you
@daviddraper54852 жыл бұрын
Governor not right. Max standing pressure is 25 m bar. ?
@tomkatgastraining2 жыл бұрын
No it’s not it’s 19 to 30 mbrs 25 mbrs is probably about the average
@indysingh65472 жыл бұрын
What about if there is FSD on cooker.
@tomkatgastraining2 жыл бұрын
What about it the video is testing the inlet pressure not safety device
@peterensinger1770 Жыл бұрын
if there is an FSD then you would have to hold down the control knob of the burner you are using to connect the manometer to this is necessary to allow the gas to go into the manometer.
@geetee502 жыл бұрын
i never understand why a gas 'ENGINEER' cant make the same part. I did 15 years ago
@tomkatgastraining2 жыл бұрын
Probably because it’s cheaper to buy one and most of us don’t have lathes
@samchappell2332 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@farukadam16962 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👌
@leeevans3692 жыл бұрын
I’ve just decided I’m not going to fit any more gas cookers 😂
@mgbroadsterJ2 жыл бұрын
Why ?
@mgbroadsterJ2 жыл бұрын
Are the threads the same on every cooker ? I've all ways wondered why we test with three burners on full and not all of them .
@antoniogalluccio4213 Жыл бұрын
@@mgbroadsterJ because the other is where you put your gauge to test which is on to give you a reading but not lit. Unless you have a 5 burner hob
@theengineeroilsafe2792 жыл бұрын
Gas rate is best way forget this as a sole trader. One time the injector shears off your buying a new cooker for someone.
@tomkatgastraining2 жыл бұрын
What if no meter then you can’t gas rate
@theengineeroilsafe2792 жыл бұрын
I've never seen in 23 years no meter on a natural gas supply. I see your trying to hint at LPG but I'm not aiming at that because that has no relevance to me or my work. One time you shear the injector and I've seen it happen, you're standing to the cost of a new cooker simple as.
@tomkatgastraining2 жыл бұрын
@@theengineeroilsafe279 it’s all about lpg or if you think the pipe is undersized also didn’t you watch the end of the video
@danielcarragher66282 жыл бұрын
Daniel carragher
@dickiedubs31375 ай бұрын
Can't you just gas rate it
@MohammedAli-xh6zs2 жыл бұрын
Muhammed Ali
@arturprzybyl002 жыл бұрын
Artur Przybyl
@adobo6905 Жыл бұрын
Gas cooker pressure test point. LOL
@SuperWayneyb2 жыл бұрын
🤘😎🤘😱😂😂😂💪💪
@LT-nd3ov2 жыл бұрын
Why not just gas rate instead.
@tomkatgastraining2 жыл бұрын
What if there is no meter like on most lpg insulations
@LT-nd3ov2 жыл бұрын
@@tomkatgastraining True, I don't do LPG tho 😄
@jamesasprey20922 жыл бұрын
I’m on a contract where they’ve replaced electric cookers with gas cookers and just tee’d off the gas pipe for the boiler, the gas cooker gas rates fine but when I test the inlet pressure with the boiler running it’s a fail. So In my opinion some situations require this test.
@tomkatgastraining2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesasprey2092 completely agree
@albyhendriks40242 жыл бұрын
Weld a piece of pipe over an old jet
@OHYEAHGAMEVIDEOS2 жыл бұрын
It's always been a rubbish way of testing pressure.