How to tie a Bowline for rope access - Pro's and Cons of the Bowline

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

What is you favourite way to tie of the Bowline?

[@GreatOutDoorWorldofMines]

With one hand, so the other can hold the margarita.

[@HolsteiNDreaM]

"There is a tree, there is a hole, the rabbit get out of the hole, goes around the tree and back into the hole !" that's how i taught my niece how to do it !

[@jimpanse8763]

@@HolsteiNDreaM Almost same here, crocodile out of the lake around the palm and back. Even I learned it like this😅

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

@@HolsteiNDreaM perfect, I can’t remember that. I mix it up with fishes and frogs and ponds and trees hahaha.

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

@@GreatOutDoorWorldofMines I must try that,, seems like the best way to do it…

[@matts1431]

I tie it as if starting an overhand knot, then "capsize" it, which results in the rabbit already coming out of the hole on the right side. Then just go around the tree and back in the hole. I find this way removes the need to make sure you're on the right side, its done for you. It's so incredibly refreshing to see this kind of discussion! Instead of the "If it's not in the ICOP, it's wrong" mindset. The ICOP sets the bottom line. Although it goes a long way, It can't possibly account for every situation encountered in the workplace. In those situations, it comes down to a competent person to assess risk and choose what is fit for purpose. Of course; competency is the sum of training + experience. Keep the quality content coming!

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

"Competency is the sum of training and experience"! Beautiful statement!!! Although I am an IRATA instructor I called this The Rope Access Channel ;-). On a serious note, and I am sure I can learn a lot, in my opinion the ICOP doesn't really say that much black and white on the methods we should use. Its an outline of the principles behind it. So I agree completely with your statement👍🏻

[@kylepatton8316]

We use the bowline a lot in theatre rigging. Its main use for us is hauling chain hoists up to be rigged to the buildings steel. The fact that it is easy to untie is why we like it since it only needs to hold for an 20 to 25 meter pull then get untied.

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

That is the place I use it most often. To lift things or make a quick tie off. I love the bowline ;)

[@davidwarren719]

Great video sir! I’d love a video of anecdotes about some real life instances of rope access rescues! Some stories to provide insight into not just the techniques involved, but also other considerations which could be valuable for technicians. Have a great day!

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

Great suggestion! Thank you🙏🏻😃

[@Schatzjaeger2]

"Nice and neat and parallel." Is this @AccessTechniques? 😄 I love your clean and simple style of explaining everything in great detail in exactly the correct speed. And I really like the quality. Excellent picture quality with a well balanced ligthing, really nice rope choice as for the color and great audio quality. Keep it up.

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

Haha it is isn’t it 😊… I have been saying that for years, subconsciously probably influenced by them. They are the OG ‘s of high quality, down to earth rope access techniques. No nonsense, get it done. I love their videos!!

[@soriformateur5550]

Agree with you 💯 for industrial rope access and I've got the same vision for the alpine butterfly knot 🪢

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

😃👍🏼👊🏼

[@lancebosse1945]

Thank you for all your stuff. Helps a novice out

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

My pleasure, great to hear! :-)

[@iramgranados2722]

Awesome videos, can you show how to make the double bowline!! Thank you

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

Yes I can and it is on the list. My challenge is time haha

[@Dan21rod]

I'd like to show you a revised double bowline I was taught by my rappel master when I was learning rappelling for recreation

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

I’m curious. You can email it, or dm on Instagram or Facebook?

[@jennywhite1425]

Hi Alex, I'm about to start a Ropes- That- Rescue course next week and bowlines feature quite strongly. As a rope technician, I don't use them at work either. Can you please show us how to tie the 'bowline on a coil' that you tied in this video?

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

Awesome, where are you going to that? I wont be able to get a video out that quick, but if you tie into something it is basically tying in with a bowline and leaving a tail long enough so you can trace the knot all the way back around the tie in point until you come out at the standing end and you end up with two loops.

[@jennywhite1425]

@@TheRopeAccessChannel in Adelaide, Australia

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

@@jennywhite1425 and who is teaching that course?

[@jennywhite1425]

@@TheRopeAccessChannel I'll send you a message

[@jimpanse8763]

Strong video, very good advices given, especially the optical stuff 👍 We use it on constructions, but only if everyone knows it. We show each other during the partner/team check when sb. 's new. Shame one me to not know this, but what is IRATAs actual opinion to the bowline? When I had my L2 assessment the assessor told me to explain my choice of the double bowline and then start the task again with another anchor knot.

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

To my understanding the icop doesn’t have statement on many of those things. It must be risk assessed and fit for purpose. So you can basically do whatever you want as long as it is the best option for the job. Did the assessor explain why he did not want the double bowline? It could be as simple as that he is not super familiar with it and doesn’t want to take any chances.

[@jimpanse8763]

@@TheRopeAccessChannel What he said was that the bowline ain't taught so not allowed during assessments. Completly acceptable. After all he explained that their must have been accidents with this knot caused by misuse and wrong tying so it's not ok anymore.

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

@@jimpanse8763 that’s reasonable. It’s not used often and frankly for a lot of work unnecessary. But the ICOP doesn’t say we are not allowed. If we risk assess (and note it) it we should be good. With an experienced team who are all familiar with the knot as they are with a F8 it shouldn’t be a big deal. I also do a lot of Non irata work. I just have to adhere to local rules. That makes thing a bit easier to😉

[@ronnicolas4001]

I had a friend die when rock climbing tied in with a simple bowline. I never use that knot for life support. There are way too many steps involved in making it safe, all of which can be overlooked when tired and rushed.. Just use the figure eight, it's simple to tie, easy to inspect, and secure.

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

Agreed, and the reason I prefer it for rope access work

[@johngo6283]

Thanks!

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

👍🏼👍🏼👊🏼

[@vows2sweden]

hartstikke goed, jonge

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

Bedankt jonge.. By the way, ken ik je? Jonge wordt in mijn omgeving eigenlijk alleen gebruikt als je elkaar kent of tegen een jongere praat.

[@jordanfrohock9815]

Another big example of why a bowline isn’t practical in Rope access is when rigging from the middle of a rope. I like bowlines when tying equipment to a line but when using slings and various anchors, F8’s are just so much more practical, plus you can use both lines that come off an F8, rather than just the 1 with a bowline.

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

Damn man! I hadn’t even considered that! I very often rig from the middle. We only lower as much rope as needed over edge. That’s such a good reason why an 8 is better to use👍🏼👍🏼. Thanks man 😃🙏🏻👍🏼

[@jordanfrohock9815]

@@TheRopeAccessChannel keep up the great work and content! Enjoying all your stuff 👍

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

@@jordanfrohock9815 thanks and will do👊🏼

[@4ernokril]

I have always used bowline.

[@4ernokril]

I am from Moldova and there are no conditions for working on ropes, so you have to cling to chimneys or various large structures. Bowline is ideal for anchoring.

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

Most of the time it is possible to create a safe working environment. It just takes time. But is starts with us on the floor education clients on the safety needs. Stay safe👍🏼👍🏼

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

Great knot.

[@jubi3050]

I just use the yosemite bowline to rigg retriveable, cuz the knot is pretty flat so it lets easy flip over.

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

perfect

[@patconnelify]

Jack sparrow approves🤙🤪

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

🏴‍☠️😃👍🏼

[@johngo6283]

I think Alex and Captain Jack have a rather strong resemblance…. 🏴‍☠️

[@TheRopeAccessChannel]

@@johngo6283 😂 I’ll take that as a compliment ✌🏻✌🏻