How to tune Axial SCX10 II shock? Diaphragm Shock Mod - A Must Do all SCX10II

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

THANK YOU!! Although this is how I typically build my Shocks, *Mostly.......* that tiny bit about the small hole in the Shock Cap...... BRILLIANT!!! I've been in the Hobby for over 37 Years. The one annoying thing about building and Tuning Shocks is - if you get the right amount of Oil, and everything looks good..... But then you test the Shock by pushing up the Shock, and it SPRINGS back down - WITHOUT the Spring installed!!!! SOME People think that's "normal"..... but it certainly is NOT!! That fluid pressure actually INCREASES the Mechanical Spring Rate! Even with the lightest Oil. I CAN'T BELIEVE that I never saw that the pressure from the Shock itself, is CAUSED by AIR PRESSURE, above the Diaphragm, IN the Cap!!! 😱 That simple little hole in the Cap, relieves and levels the Air Pressure, that normally tried to PUSH the Shock Piston back down! I can't WAIT to try this!! 😎😀

[@popwall4297]

PoorManRC it's supposed to push back down have you ever changed the shocks on a real car they push back down there supposed to that's how they work

[@northsidecustomrc3097]

Its not the air pushing it back down. The shock shaft and oil need to occupy the same space when shock is compressed thats why the bladder has room in the cap to move. The shaft going into the body and pushes a volume of oil out that expands the bladder into the cap. That pressure is relieved when load on shock is removed and thus the volume of oil from the bladder pushes the shaft back out a bit (rebound) When You've built 4 shocks perfectly they all rebound the same amount.

[@madstoppie]

Joe, you put most of the KZbin RC Benchers to shame with your stock SCX10 II and your simple mods!!! so much so, I'm sold on it. I'll grab one as soon as they become available again. Thanks a lot and keep it real man!

[@JPRC]

thanks for the kind words...it is all about just sharing my RC experience and promote the hobby

[@humblerc841]

that's a pretty inventive, cost effective upgrade.

[@JPRC]

exactly

[@ScaleScience]

Just wanted to mention for proper use of the diaphram you are supposed to fill the the upper reservoir with oil as well. If you notice when you compress your shock that it does not return to a fully rebound position. Adding oil on top of the diaphragm will alleviate that problem and allow the damper to act as it should. Cheers and keep the up the good work. I basically run a clone of your scx10.2 and LOVE IT!

[@alpinestar37r1]

Scale Science do you mean the fake reservoir? I am trying to picture what you mean

[@mblake0420]

@@alpinestar37r1 he is talking about on top of the diaphragm, a drop or 2....but u have those holes now, probably wont work

[@popwall4297]

that's what I thought because regular automobile shock they are completely extended when you buy them new and if you push them in they jump back to the full extension I thought they were supposed to

[@TyTekinCampbell]

The air is supposed to be in there, they are an emulsion shock. Diaphragm will work also, it just depends on how you want the shock to dampen.

[@ShenRC]

Green slime is awesome! Nice crawl!

[@RcNickster709]

Great video. Love the trailing and the rig looks awesome.. every tip we can get to improve the rigs is a great thing. Thanks for sharing ..👍☺

[@BillyHill360]

Wow it moves like a full size rig now. Nice mod. Is there anywhere to get just the diaphragms?

[@Alvin-ti3fw]

Dude, you sound exactly like Alishanmoa!!😂 😂 ✌️

[@jjsally7963]

Very good video! Amazing can I ask, what is your stiffness of the springs? Front and rear? Also would the cap gasket for the slash work as well for the axial shocks? Very much appreciate it

This is a really cool tune.........thumbs up 👍🏻👍🏻

[@fbiofficial8298]

sense Noone else will I'll comment great video got my thumbs up

[@JPRC]

haha..thanks for the support as always :)

[@yakanies]

that's how I do my shocks nice

[@JPRC]

yup...thats it

[@4x4Stompers]

Nice job! Will this work with the Scx10 ii stock plastic-bodied shocks from the RTR version as well? For reference, they're P/N AX80030.

[@geekazoid]

That rebuild kit is discontinued. www.associatedelectrics.com/teamassociated/parts/details/21190-ASC21190-shock_rebuild_kit/

[@DOrtw]

Great vid as always, Joe! The quality of your close-up's while working on the shocks is awesome.. what cam do you use, please..? Greetings from Germany, Dirk

[@JPRC]

for close up image i use the sony mirror less a5100 with 3.5/50mm lens

[@DOrtw]

JPRC THX, Joe!

[@rcaxialscx10]

where did you get them alloy silver shock relocaters

[@stylze5767]

Whenever i fill my shocks with oil they hydro lock even if i leave a air cap. And i only half way fill it it defeats the purpose of having oil at all. Did i place the c clips on the shaft wrong? Youre supposed to have the opening of the c clip on opposite sides of eachother right?

[@RcAVENTURE.V.F.R]

Nice brother 👍 👍. Thanks for sharing

[@JPRC]

thanks for the support as always brother

[@ipdtt]

Thank You! i like it.

[@hondafreak8613]

Seems the Team Associated shock rebuild kit #21190 is discontinued. Do you know of any other shock that has correct size diaphragms? I know my Slash 4x4 ultimate has same diaphragms in shocks but there way bigger. Wont fit the small scx10 shock

[@francisnario3183]

What weight oil did you put in the front? You mention 20 WT for the rear.

[@markheaver4752]

Hi, does any one know of another rubber diaphragm that can be used? These shock re-build kits don't seem to common in the uk.

[@brianport3691]

Great vid bro! Where can I find those bump stops you install on the shaft in your video?

[@JPRC]

+Brian Port they are off of my old shocks laying around, it is nice to have but not a must. I have also made bump stop using nitro fuel tube before way way back.

[@brianport3691]

Thanks for the info...again great vid as I'm in the middle of building an scx10 ii right now

[@NoisyKayakAdventures]

nice!! thanks for the tips

[@ddillonable]

Why can’t I find this. Are they not available anymore

[@JPRC]

yeah..looks like sold out everywhere

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

Just look for 10mm Shock Diaphragm Seals. Could be for any Vehicle, as long as it's a 10mm Diaphragm.... 😊😉

[@G.Truett]

Did u use 20w for all 4 shocks

[@whixiwhix883]

are you using 20% for front shock too ?

[@CarmineRC]

Nice, buttery smooth. That's a good, simple mod! OK, I have to ask lol.... I've got 100s of those diaphragm off of Tamiya kits.... Would those work in some brands of performance shocks??

[@JPRC]

+Carmine Allocca The hole is for venting air betweeen compression and powerstroke. Having a hole allow a more consistent damping rate while no hole would force air to compress in the bladder chamber therefore it would result in faster rebound which is less desirable in crawling. You can use any bladder diaphragms as long as the fit the diameter but I think the tamiya ones are too big to fit.

[@CarmineRC]

JPRC I understand the hole... I'm surprised that manufacturers stopped including the hole. I was able to demonstrate how it works, by filling a shock, assembling, and then when I compressed the shock, but it stopped about 5mm from the top. The bladder had compressed the air in the cap.... The hole relieves that pressure, allowing full, smooth shock travel. 😉 It's really too bad that the Tamiya bladders are too big.... I have so many of them. I also have to find out what size springs will fit on Tamiya shocks. I've got some on my CC-01 and DT-02....

[@MrRicvzla]

Please the Traxxas 1765 Silicone Diaphragms, can work too? I didn't find the same like you use ..

[@JPRC]

+Ricardo Rampazzo G I don't think so

[@4x4Stompers]

They are 12mm. How wide are the Team Associated diaphragms?

[@gianmamontanari6164]

The oil for the suspension is included?

[@JPRC]

yes..

[@keet5959]

hey great video. just wondering if anybody has tried this with a Traxxas bladder? that's all I have on hand and want to try this

[@JPRC]

N.L CRAWLER i haven't tried but as Ling as the diameter is around 12mm it should work

[@downriverdimes8426]

20 weight shock oil all the way around?

[@kevinbeck473]

What associated kit was that

[@yu254445]

Hi , will Traxxas (#2362) rebuild kit - Diaphrams fit 10.2 stock?

[@antoniodemonio9]

maybe the mini revo

[@antoniodemonio9]

what I meant was maybe the mini revo ones will work

[@pjc2166]

Back ground music needs to go when you are talking or turn down. Good vid though.

[@tobydyes]

What's the point only thing I see is you using less oil cuz you're not using the piggyback

[@lacucaracha111111]

thats what I absolutely hate about axial shocks , without the diaphragm they ALLWAYS have air in them wich basically gives them 0 dampening

[@JPRC]

exactly.. most people would overfill these tiny shocks if they just followed instruction and cause them to leak when shaft displaces the oil

[@stonedess3271]

good job very nice +++ I would like to know where to find AE Associated Shock Rebuild Kit RC18T car su tower hobbies there is out of stock I find that the reference AE Associated Shock Rebuild Kit RC18R 21192 is that it is compatible?

[@JPRC]

No the one with T won’t fit

[@joeygodoy509]

Why you playing music while having us hear something. Not so good man. Thats like wiping before shitting